Here's a great link that I found for the new launcher. It helps make the launcher as unobtrusive as possible and getting the functionality that you had without it back.
Specifically, under the properties of City of Heroes (from the NC Launcher) you can add command line parameters. That should be your ticket.
that guide worked perfectly, thank you! anyway im off for now..Gotta, shoot people online to calm down. Still alittle miffed.
Playing Nothing waiting for The secret world Played WoW, DCU online, star wars: the old republic, city of heroes, city of villains, everquest, plenty more I'm probably forgetting or aren't worth noting.
I only PAID for a month. However, i used "free months" from different things i got from here, as i said before. I played for, i forget, i have a horrible memory, It was atlest 3 or 4.
So, Paragon rewards aren't based on paid time, but subscription time (as well as points purchased, but that is irrelevant here). The difference is that subscription time includes free time in the box as well time earned for referrals. To figure things out, you need to actually log into the game client, click on a server and then look at that top blue bar:
In box 1, it notes global slots -- free and premium players get a base 2 slots, plus 1 for every year subscribed, plus anything you prevoiusly bought plus 2 if you subscribed during issue 13 (veats), plus 2 if you had going rogue attached to your account before Freedom launched. Those global slots are used to unlock character slots on the servers. It's a fixed number, so you have to be thoughtful where you use them. Subscribers get a base 12 per server plus any more based on the criteria I noted above.
Box 2 is unspent tokens. You earn tokens for subscription time, purchases in the paragon market, and if you ever purchased a box. The subscription time to token calculation before Freedom launched was 1 token for every 3 months plus 1 token for each year. Since freedom launched, it's 1 token for every month subscribed.
The tokens are basically a loyalty rewards/carot to spend money. If you click on the token button, you'll get this screen:
And you can plug tokens in in any order on a given tier, but you must complete an entire tier. Hovering over the slots identifies what you'll get.
Now, for those who bought boxes in the past -- you had to pay subtime to play the game fully. At this juncture, you can play most of the game without a sub, so complaining that you cannot play all of it, regardless of what box you bought is a moot point. If you want to play the entire game, then subscribe/buy points. The point of the freedom model is that you can essentially decide how much you want to pay -- $15/month or perhaps only $1/month, or pay nothing it all. The fact is that, no, you don't have to buy the game again.
That is one of the best explanations I have seen, thank you therain93.
However, if someone bought COV or COH/COV did they not get the MM and Controller archetype? This new system locks those previous players out if they don't meet a certain Token tier. Worst, I think, if someone doesn't realize this and unlocks their MM or Controller toon only to discover they don't meet the tier reward to actually play that archetype they could end up wasting a slot on a toon they can't even play.
I don't know how I feel about NCSoft's F2P of this game. I got lucky, I played for 2 1/2 years back in the day so my MM and Controller toons were unlocked. The idea that I am locked out of my IO's and need to rent them going forward will probably be enough for me to stay away. Speaking of which, if your locked out of your IO's do you still get salvage and recipe drops? Last night I played for a few hours and not one toon got any salvage or recipe drops? Bad luck, or by design?
Okay. So, i palyed COH/V back in 06, i had two copies of the game attached to my account.
Serial Codes Used on this Account
Type
Date Used
Serial Code
Collector
Dec 3, 2006
XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-7G29
Retail
May 5, 2008
XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-8TFM
However. When i go to play the free version. I have every, single, limitation, of free players. Which means, in order to play characters i've ALREADY, MADE! Not only do i have to unlock their character slots. But i have to BUY, THE GAME, AGAIN!. What is this, NC soft? thats a great way to treat returning costumers.
Also, in unrelated news. I'm running windows vista, when i boot up the game, my mouse disappears. the usual fix no longer works on the new edition because it runs through the NC launcer, rather then the cohupdater.exe
How can you buy the game again if it's free to play?
However, if someone bought COV or COH/COV did they not get the MM and Controller archetype? This new system locks those previous players out if they don't meet a certain Token tier.
Back in the day (3 months ago!), someone who bought CoX did not get to play ANY archetype if they didn't pay the sub. Now they can play most of them gratis, only a couple are considered premium not regular under the new setup.
That is one of the best explanations I have seen, thank you therain93.
However, if someone bought COV or COH/COV did they not get the MM and Controller archetype? This new system locks those previous players out if they don't meet a certain Token tier. Worst, I think, if someone doesn't realize this and unlocks their MM or Controller toon only to discover they don't meet the tier reward to actually play that archetype they could end up wasting a slot on a toon they can't even play.
I don't know how I feel about NCSoft's F2P of this game. I got lucky, I played for 2 1/2 years back in the day so my MM and Controller toons were unlocked. The idea that I am locked out of my IO's and need to rent them going forward will probably be enough for me to stay away. Speaking of which, if your locked out of your IO's do you still get salvage and recipe drops? Last night I played for a few hours and not one toon got any salvage or recipe drops? Bad luck, or by design?
Thank you for the compliment, I try ( ' :
Before freedom hit, players got full access to every AT because they paid $15.00/month. Since Freedom hit, they can now play them for free if they earned enough tokens or simply want to pay a 1-time fee for each AT. Perhaps you love controllers -- rather than paying $15/month as a subscriberfor the next year to play them, you pay it one time and then play for the next year averaging out to $1.25/month. Of course, paragon is counting on youo enjoying the game so much that you'll want to buy additional access -- the game is dangerously tempting that way ( ' ;
Regarding the IO system, for you, consider a one-time purchase of $15.00, which nets you 1200 points. Those 1200 points can buy you 7 months of the IO license. So, for the next 7 months, at a rate of about $2.10/month, you get full access to the mm's and controllers you want and all of the IOs you want. Not bad when you consider that's less than a large fries as Burger King....
Regarding drops -- I think that may be bad luck. I say that only because the bonus for having enough tokens to fill each tier (note, just have them, don't even have to slot them) is that you get bonus salvage and recipe inventory space
Yeah my mains a lv 50 Controler and went back and unlocked it figureing thats all I had to do but NOOO. now I have to pay again!? I sent a letter about geting slots back or something ya know. And oh Sub or Buy it thats it... I sent them a reply saying I already bought the game bought the GvsE Expansion Got another expansion or bundle and I still dont have access to none of that or my controller? Why keep paying for the same thing over and over? Think I'll just sit this F2Pay out... As far as I'm concerned it's not F2P for anyone who wants to return.
I did get some item drops for recipes. But to Craft you need to subscribe or purchase a 30 day licence *craft licence*, also if you want to sell xtra supplies again you need to Purchase or buy a 30 day licence *Wentworth Licence*?
PS: I just noticed that DCUO is going F2P think I'll try that instead!
Yeah my mains a lv 50 Controler and went back and unlocked it figureing thats all I had to do but NOOO. now I have to pay again!? I sent a letter about geting slots back or something ya know. And oh Sub or Buy it thats it... I sent them a reply saying I already bought the game bought the GvsE Expansion Got another expansion or bundle and I still dont have access to none of that or my controller? Why keep paying for the same thing over and over? Think I'll just sit this F2Pay out... As far as I'm concerned it's not F2P for anyone who wants to return.
I did get some item drops for recipes. But to Craft you need to subscribe or purchase a 30 day licence *craft licence*, also if you want to sell xtra supplies again you need to Purchase or buy a 30 day licence *Wentworth Licence*?
PS: I just noticed that DCUO is going F2P think I'll try that instead!
How many paragon tokens do you have? See post #29 in this thread if you don't know how to find out. ( ' :
Yea, having to buy a game i already bought twice does kinda piss me off.
see, having to buy the same game twice would piss me off.
snoogins
You would think, but the reality is that all of the city of heroes boxes stacked. So, you could buy the basic game and that would create your account and give you 30 days of game time. A coh collector's edition was then released which had a few powers and costumes; that could be used to create a new account or else stack another 30 days of time on the account. So, when people claim, "i bought the game twice", it can sound more than a bit misleading...he effectively bought subtime in a box rather than a card or directly billed from his credit card, but got also got a few perks out of it....
For the sake of history, here's a bit more of a run down.
The coh pre-order came first, which gave you a free sprint power depending on where you bought it.
The coh game that officially came out had nothing but the game and 30 days of subtime.
The coh collector's edition was a dvd version which had a bonus power, costume, and subtime; the version of the game on the disc was slightly updated, meaning s shorter download time.
the cov pre-order came then, which gave a free arachnos helmet, depending on when you bought it.
the cov game came out and gave access to the vilain side (along with bases I believe), and with 30 days of subtime. When NCsoft bought the game from cryptic, CoV access was given to everyone who had CoH and was actively subbed.
the cov collector's edition came out with a pair of costume parts and 30 days of subtime.
A good versus evil version came out that had a few bonus powers and costumes, along with 30 days of subtime. Getting it gave access to both CoH and CoV.
I think Architect Edition was next, which gave a few bonus powers and the valkyrie costume, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was updated to the issue that arcitect was released.
Then Mac Edition was released, which gave a choice of a bonus booster pack, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was slightly updated.
And then there was going rogue, which gave access to praetoria, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was updated to that issue.
So, basically each game box stacked gametime on top of a previously existing account. CoV gave access to a new set of areas and eventually was given to all subscribers. Going Rogue gave access to a new set of areas and now is being given to all subscribers.
Yea, having to buy a game i already bought twice does kinda piss me off.
see, having to buy the same game twice would piss me off.
snoogins
You would think, but the reality is that all of the city of heroes boxes stacked. So, you could buy the basic game and that would create your account and give you 30 days of game time. A coh collector's edition was then released which had a few powers and costumes; that could be used to create a new account or else stack another 30 days of time on the account. So, when people claim, "i bought the game twice", it can sound more than a bit misleading...he effectively bought subtime in a box rather than a card or directly billed from his credit card, but got also got a few perks out of it....
For the sake of history, here's a bit more of a run down.
The coh pre-order came first, which gave you a free sprint power depending on where you bought it.
The coh game that officially came out had nothing but the game and 30 days of subtime.
The coh collector's edition was a dvd version which had a bonus power, costume, and subtime; the version of the game on the disc was slightly updated, meaning s shorter download time.
the cov pre-order came then, which gave a free arachnos helmet, depending on when you bought it.
the cov game came out and gave access to the vilain side (along with bases I believe), and with 30 days of subtime. When NCsoft bought the game from cryptic, CoV access was given to everyone who had CoH and was actively subbed.
the cov collector's edition came out with a pair of costume parts and 30 days of subtime.
A good versus evil version came out that had a few bonus powers and costumes, along with 30 days of subtime. Getting it gave access to both CoH and CoV.
I think Architect Edition was next, which gave a few bonus powers and the valkyrie costume, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was updated to the issue that arcitect was released.
Then Mac Edition was released, which gave a choice of a bonus booster pack, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was slightly updated.
And then there was going rogue, which gave access to praetoria, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was updated to that issue.
So, basically each game box stacked gametime on top of a previously existing account. CoV gave access to a new set of areas and eventually was given to all subscribers. Going Rogue gave access to a new set of areas and now is being given to all subscribers.
See, that works when people bought the game when it was 20$
But for people who bought both games at full retail, yeah I want my full game.
Yea, having to buy a game i already bought twice does kinda piss me off.
see, having to buy the same game twice would piss me off.
snoogins
You would think, but the reality is that all of the city of heroes boxes stacked. So, you could buy the basic game and that would create your account and give you 30 days of game time. A coh collector's edition was then released which had a few powers and costumes; that could be used to create a new account or else stack another 30 days of time on the account. So, when people claim, "i bought the game twice", it can sound more than a bit misleading...he effectively bought subtime in a box rather than a card or directly billed from his credit card, but got also got a few perks out of it....
For the sake of history, here's a bit more of a run down.
The coh pre-order came first, which gave you a free sprint power depending on where you bought it.
The coh game that officially came out had nothing but the game and 30 days of subtime.
The coh collector's edition was a dvd version which had a bonus power, costume, and subtime; the version of the game on the disc was slightly updated, meaning s shorter download time.
the cov pre-order came then, which gave a free arachnos helmet, depending on when you bought it.
the cov game came out and gave access to the vilain side (along with bases I believe), and with 30 days of subtime. When NCsoft bought the game from cryptic, CoV access was given to everyone who had CoH and was actively subbed.
the cov collector's edition came out with a pair of costume parts and 30 days of subtime.
A good versus evil version came out that had a few bonus powers and costumes, along with 30 days of subtime. Getting it gave access to both CoH and CoV.
I think Architect Edition was next, which gave a few bonus powers and the valkyrie costume, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was updated to the issue that arcitect was released.
Then Mac Edition was released, which gave a choice of a bonus booster pack, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was slightly updated.
And then there was going rogue, which gave access to praetoria, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was updated to that issue.
So, basically each game box stacked gametime on top of a previously existing account. CoV gave access to a new set of areas and eventually was given to all subscribers. Going Rogue gave access to a new set of areas and now is being given to all subscribers.
See, that works when people bought the game when it was 20$
But for people who bought both games at full retail, yeah I want my full game.
Then subscribe for your full game, just like before. Nothing has changed in that regard.
If you don't want to sub, well, then you still get access to most of the game for free.
Then subscribe for your full game, just like before. Nothing has changed in that regard.
If you don't want to sub, well, then you still get access to most of the game for free.
^^^ this.
Before Freedom, if you wanted full access to everything you had purchased, you had to subscribe to the game. If you didn't subscribe, you didn't have access to anything.
Now, if you want full access, you still have to subscribe. But if you don't, you still have access to most of the game.
The game is free to play, so why would you have to buy it again?
Also you should have a premium account, but depending on what you have by way of Paragon Rewards you might not have very much stuff unlocked.
As far as i can tell. Its not.
http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/16/35/91/09/cov10.jpg this is my account page, with names edited out for my own security. and yes, it only has "1 month" paid time, however i got ALOT of free time, from here actually, thanks to invite a friend/return customer deal thingies.
It says the same thing my accounbt says: "Free," and "Playable." The only difference is that mine says "2 years, 8 months" for total paid time.
You are a premium member, you don't have to buy the game again, you just don't have any paragon rewards tokens. You can buy stuff to unlock your character slots in the store I think.
You, like our friend Puke (who apparently consider having his issues answered in a reasonable manner 'trolling' because he didnt like what he was told), are raging unnecessarily.
Then subscribe for your full game, just like before. Nothing has changed in that regard.
If you don't want to sub, well, then you still get access to most of the game for free.
^^^ this.
Before Freedom, if you wanted full access to everything you had purchased, you had to subscribe to the game. If you didn't subscribe, you didn't have access to anything.
Now, if you want full access, you still have to subscribe. But if you don't, you still have access to most of the game.
I'm not seeing the problem here.
No i don't sadly.
My main is a Mastermind at level 42 and I can't play him unless I put down 15$ and even then when I bought CoV I should have gotten you know Mastermind without having to unlock him again.
You see when LOTRO when FTP I had boughten the game and expansion but even with my subscription canceled I still kept my god damn classes.
My main is a Mastermind at level 42 and I can't play him unless I put down 50$ and even then when I bought CoV I should have gotten you know Mastermind without having to unlock him again.
Ok. I can completely understand being annoyed about needing to unlock MMs and Controllers from folks like you who purchased boxes of the game. That said, it's a $15 a permanent unlock for the AT. I don't know where the heck you're getting $50 thing from.
I think, the big difference between LotRO and CoH with regards to classes/ATs is that even VIPs in LotRO (apparently) have to buy access to the 'special' classes whereas in CoH VIPs get free use of all ATs and have to purchase access to already created characters once they drop down from VIP. Or at least that's the idea I imagine. On the one hand, I can see how it's intended as a nice bonus to (and incentive to become or stay) VIPs, but on the other hand it's bound to cause some people to get (understandably) upset like in your case.
My main is a Mastermind at level 42 and I can't play him unless I put down 50$ and even then when I bought CoV I should have gotten you know Mastermind without having to unlock him again.
Ok. I can completely understand being annoyed about needing to unlock MMs and Controllers from folks like you who purchased boxes of the game. That said, it's a $15 a permanent unlock for the AT. I don't know where the heck you're getting $50 thing from.
I think, the big difference between LotRO and CoH with regards to classes/ATs is that even VIPs in LotRO (apparently) have to buy access to the 'special' classes whereas in CoH VIPs get free use of all ATs and have to purchase access to already created characters once they drop down from VIP. Or at least that's the idea I imagine. On the one hand, I can see how it's intended as a nice bonus to (and incentive to become or stay) VIPs, but on the other hand it's bound to cause some people to get (understandably) upset like in your case.
Actually when it went FTP anyone who purchased both games would get all the content they payed for regardless of status. And thanks for finding my mistake I thought I put 15$ and I corrected that mistake.
Anyone know if i can install the game from my CoH/V disk, then patch it to free to play? I really dont want to download that huge file lol.
Install from the disk will be a waste of time. They re-organized all of the files when it came to launching for freedom. The NCsoft downloader is pretty fast though.
Okay. So, i palyed COH/V back in 06, i had two copies of the game attached to my account.
Serial Codes Used on this Account
Type
Date Used
Serial Code
Collector
Dec 3, 2006
XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-7G29
Retail
May 5, 2008
XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-8TFM
However. When i go to play the free version. I have every, single, limitation, of free players. Which means, in order to play characters i've ALREADY, MADE! Not only do i have to unlock their character slots. But i have to BUY, THE GAME, AGAIN!. What is this, NC soft? thats a great way to treat returning costumers.
Also, in unrelated news. I'm running windows vista, when i boot up the game, my mouse disappears. the usual fix no longer works on the new edition because it runs through the NC launcer, rather then the cohupdater.exe
A great example of why F2P isn't F2P as always.....
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It is curious, in a sense. I don't understand the OP's issue in the least. 1 month paid - well, what do you expect? Sure, you may have played the game much longer than that - but you played for free...so uh, well - yeah, anyway.
My account shows a year paid. As for Vet rewards prior to Freedom, I was near four year's worth. I did not pay for four years. One year sounds light, considering I had played off and on since doing the pre-order for the original CoH...but oh well - I knew I had not paid for as much as my Vet status showed.
I had bought all of the "packs" outside of Wedding and Animal. I have most of that...most. There are certain things that are missing. Meh, oh well. I was able to get some of the Vet rewards back by spending points - it had spent 16 for me and I had 3 left. Trippy that 19 leaves me one shy of Tier 6 and Mission Architect...oh well.
The number of server tokens per server varies a great deal - with 0 on most of them and 4 or more on some. Having only 3 globals is kind of meh...CoH, CoV, and even GR... and 3 globals...meh. Even there though, I understand that the MMO genre is a pay to play genre...usually handled through a sub, which is a form of lease allowing you to access the game.
My main issue with the game currently is that it is basically unplayable. Not sure if it's the wifi (which has not been an issue with RIFT, WoW, STO, AoC, CO, etc, etc, etc) or what is going on, though - to an extent - well, yeah. How about this rambling, eh? Maybe I should have had more coffee first, lol.
RIFT was the last game I played. Had played since beta, played seven months after headstart...and decided not to resub. Played that on the highest settings, without issue (even with the wifi). GPU temp is normally 40-41 and CPU temp is normally 50. GPU would hit 60 while playing RIFT for any period of time. CPU would not budge. With CoX though, meh - CPU would hit 60 almost immediately and the GPU would climb to 60+ eventually.
I had not played for around 223 days (yep, I was still playing CoH during the RIFT betas) - and I was not having the issues then while playing CoX on Ultra. Even on Recommended, the game is simply unplayable. Which is kind of a shame - since I'd consider resubbing if I could play the game instead of watching a series of screenshots leading up to my respawning at the hospital...lol.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
You don't have to buy the game again but you do have to Subscribe to the game as a VIP in order to access your VIP characters, this is no different to how it was before the free to play model was implemenented, back then you wouldn't have been able to access your characters with a subscription either, atleast now you can choose to play the game with some limitations for free.
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Here's a great link that I found for the new launcher. It helps make the launcher as unobtrusive as possible and getting the functionality that you had without it back.
Specifically, under the properties of City of Heroes (from the NC Launcher) you can add command line parameters. That should be your ticket.
that guide worked perfectly, thank you! anyway im off for now..Gotta, shoot people online to calm down. Still alittle miffed.
Playing
Nothing
waiting for
The secret world
Played
WoW, DCU online, star wars: the old republic, city of heroes, city of villains, everquest, plenty more I'm probably forgetting or aren't worth noting.
So, Paragon rewards aren't based on paid time, but subscription time (as well as points purchased, but that is irrelevant here). The difference is that subscription time includes free time in the box as well time earned for referrals. To figure things out, you need to actually log into the game client, click on a server and then look at that top blue bar:
In box 1, it notes global slots -- free and premium players get a base 2 slots, plus 1 for every year subscribed, plus anything you prevoiusly bought plus 2 if you subscribed during issue 13 (veats), plus 2 if you had going rogue attached to your account before Freedom launched. Those global slots are used to unlock character slots on the servers. It's a fixed number, so you have to be thoughtful where you use them. Subscribers get a base 12 per server plus any more based on the criteria I noted above.
Box 2 is unspent tokens. You earn tokens for subscription time, purchases in the paragon market, and if you ever purchased a box. The subscription time to token calculation before Freedom launched was 1 token for every 3 months plus 1 token for each year. Since freedom launched, it's 1 token for every month subscribed.
The tokens are basically a loyalty rewards/carot to spend money. If you click on the token button, you'll get this screen:
And you can plug tokens in in any order on a given tier, but you must complete an entire tier. Hovering over the slots identifies what you'll get.
Now, for those who bought boxes in the past -- you had to pay subtime to play the game fully. At this juncture, you can play most of the game without a sub, so complaining that you cannot play all of it, regardless of what box you bought is a moot point. If you want to play the entire game, then subscribe/buy points. The point of the freedom model is that you can essentially decide how much you want to pay -- $15/month or perhaps only $1/month, or pay nothing it all. The fact is that, no, you don't have to buy the game again.
That is one of the best explanations I have seen, thank you therain93.
However, if someone bought COV or COH/COV did they not get the MM and Controller archetype? This new system locks those previous players out if they don't meet a certain Token tier. Worst, I think, if someone doesn't realize this and unlocks their MM or Controller toon only to discover they don't meet the tier reward to actually play that archetype they could end up wasting a slot on a toon they can't even play.
I don't know how I feel about NCSoft's F2P of this game. I got lucky, I played for 2 1/2 years back in the day so my MM and Controller toons were unlocked. The idea that I am locked out of my IO's and need to rent them going forward will probably be enough for me to stay away. Speaking of which, if your locked out of your IO's do you still get salvage and recipe drops? Last night I played for a few hours and not one toon got any salvage or recipe drops? Bad luck, or by design?
How can you buy the game again if it's free to play?
Back in the day (3 months ago!), someone who bought CoX did not get to play ANY archetype if they didn't pay the sub. Now they can play most of them gratis, only a couple are considered premium not regular under the new setup.
Thank you for the compliment, I try ( ' :
Before freedom hit, players got full access to every AT because they paid $15.00/month. Since Freedom hit, they can now play them for free if they earned enough tokens or simply want to pay a 1-time fee for each AT. Perhaps you love controllers -- rather than paying $15/month as a subscriberfor the next year to play them, you pay it one time and then play for the next year averaging out to $1.25/month. Of course, paragon is counting on youo enjoying the game so much that you'll want to buy additional access -- the game is dangerously tempting that way ( ' ;
Regarding the IO system, for you, consider a one-time purchase of $15.00, which nets you 1200 points. Those 1200 points can buy you 7 months of the IO license. So, for the next 7 months, at a rate of about $2.10/month, you get full access to the mm's and controllers you want and all of the IOs you want. Not bad when you consider that's less than a large fries as Burger King....
Regarding drops -- I think that may be bad luck. I say that only because the bonus for having enough tokens to fill each tier (note, just have them, don't even have to slot them) is that you get bonus salvage and recipe inventory space
Yeah my mains a lv 50 Controler and went back and unlocked it figureing thats all I had to do but NOOO. now I have to pay again!? I sent a letter about geting slots back or something ya know. And oh Sub or Buy it thats it... I sent them a reply saying I already bought the game bought the GvsE Expansion Got another expansion or bundle and I still dont have access to none of that or my controller? Why keep paying for the same thing over and over? Think I'll just sit this F2Pay out... As far as I'm concerned it's not F2P for anyone who wants to return.
I did get some item drops for recipes. But to Craft you need to subscribe or purchase a 30 day licence *craft licence*, also if you want to sell xtra supplies again you need to Purchase or buy a 30 day licence *Wentworth Licence*?
PS: I just noticed that DCUO is going F2P think I'll try that instead!
How many paragon tokens do you have? See post #29 in this thread if you don't know how to find out. ( ' :
see, having to buy the same game twice would piss me off.
You would think, but the reality is that all of the city of heroes boxes stacked. So, you could buy the basic game and that would create your account and give you 30 days of game time. A coh collector's edition was then released which had a few powers and costumes; that could be used to create a new account or else stack another 30 days of time on the account. So, when people claim, "i bought the game twice", it can sound more than a bit misleading...he effectively bought subtime in a box rather than a card or directly billed from his credit card, but got also got a few perks out of it....
For the sake of history, here's a bit more of a run down.
The coh pre-order came first, which gave you a free sprint power depending on where you bought it.
The coh game that officially came out had nothing but the game and 30 days of subtime.
The coh collector's edition was a dvd version which had a bonus power, costume, and subtime; the version of the game on the disc was slightly updated, meaning s shorter download time.
the cov pre-order came then, which gave a free arachnos helmet, depending on when you bought it.
the cov game came out and gave access to the vilain side (along with bases I believe), and with 30 days of subtime. When NCsoft bought the game from cryptic, CoV access was given to everyone who had CoH and was actively subbed.
the cov collector's edition came out with a pair of costume parts and 30 days of subtime.
A good versus evil version came out that had a few bonus powers and costumes, along with 30 days of subtime. Getting it gave access to both CoH and CoV.
I think Architect Edition was next, which gave a few bonus powers and the valkyrie costume, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was updated to the issue that arcitect was released.
Then Mac Edition was released, which gave a choice of a bonus booster pack, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was slightly updated.
And then there was going rogue, which gave access to praetoria, along with 30 days of subtime. The version on the disc was updated to that issue.
So, basically each game box stacked gametime on top of a previously existing account. CoV gave access to a new set of areas and eventually was given to all subscribers. Going Rogue gave access to a new set of areas and now is being given to all subscribers.
See, that works when people bought the game when it was 20$
But for people who bought both games at full retail, yeah I want my full game.
Then subscribe for your full game, just like before. Nothing has changed in that regard.
If you don't want to sub, well, then you still get access to most of the game for free.
^^^ this.
Before Freedom, if you wanted full access to everything you had purchased, you had to subscribe to the game. If you didn't subscribe, you didn't have access to anything.
Now, if you want full access, you still have to subscribe. But if you don't, you still have access to most of the game.
I'm not seeing the problem here.
It says the same thing my accounbt says: "Free," and "Playable." The only difference is that mine says "2 years, 8 months" for total paid time.
You are a premium member, you don't have to buy the game again, you just don't have any paragon rewards tokens. You can buy stuff to unlock your character slots in the store I think.
No.
It's that simple.
You, like our friend Puke (who apparently consider having his issues answered in a reasonable manner 'trolling' because he didnt like what he was told), are raging unnecessarily.
No i don't sadly.
My main is a Mastermind at level 42 and I can't play him unless I put down 15$ and even then when I bought CoV I should have gotten you know Mastermind without having to unlock him again.
You see when LOTRO when FTP I had boughten the game and expansion but even with my subscription canceled I still kept my god damn classes.
Ok. I can completely understand being annoyed about needing to unlock MMs and Controllers from folks like you who purchased boxes of the game. That said, it's a $15 a permanent unlock for the AT. I don't know where the heck you're getting $50 thing from.
I think, the big difference between LotRO and CoH with regards to classes/ATs is that even VIPs in LotRO (apparently) have to buy access to the 'special' classes whereas in CoH VIPs get free use of all ATs and have to purchase access to already created characters once they drop down from VIP. Or at least that's the idea I imagine. On the one hand, I can see how it's intended as a nice bonus to (and incentive to become or stay) VIPs, but on the other hand it's bound to cause some people to get (understandably) upset like in your case.
Actually when it went FTP anyone who purchased both games would get all the content they payed for regardless of status. And thanks for finding my mistake I thought I put 15$ and I corrected that mistake.
Anyone know if i can install the game from my CoH/V disk, then patch it to free to play? I really dont want to download that huge file lol.
Install from the disk will be a waste of time. They re-organized all of the files when it came to launching for freedom. The NCsoft downloader is pretty fast though.
Unless your reasoning is due to data limits, just set it for when you go to work or while you're sleeping.
A great example of why F2P isn't F2P as always.....
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It is curious, in a sense. I don't understand the OP's issue in the least. 1 month paid - well, what do you expect? Sure, you may have played the game much longer than that - but you played for free...so uh, well - yeah, anyway.
My account shows a year paid. As for Vet rewards prior to Freedom, I was near four year's worth. I did not pay for four years. One year sounds light, considering I had played off and on since doing the pre-order for the original CoH...but oh well - I knew I had not paid for as much as my Vet status showed.
I had bought all of the "packs" outside of Wedding and Animal. I have most of that...most. There are certain things that are missing. Meh, oh well. I was able to get some of the Vet rewards back by spending points - it had spent 16 for me and I had 3 left. Trippy that 19 leaves me one shy of Tier 6 and Mission Architect...oh well.
The number of server tokens per server varies a great deal - with 0 on most of them and 4 or more on some. Having only 3 globals is kind of meh...CoH, CoV, and even GR... and 3 globals...meh. Even there though, I understand that the MMO genre is a pay to play genre...usually handled through a sub, which is a form of lease allowing you to access the game.
My main issue with the game currently is that it is basically unplayable. Not sure if it's the wifi (which has not been an issue with RIFT, WoW, STO, AoC, CO, etc, etc, etc) or what is going on, though - to an extent - well, yeah. How about this rambling, eh? Maybe I should have had more coffee first, lol.
RIFT was the last game I played. Had played since beta, played seven months after headstart...and decided not to resub. Played that on the highest settings, without issue (even with the wifi). GPU temp is normally 40-41 and CPU temp is normally 50. GPU would hit 60 while playing RIFT for any period of time. CPU would not budge. With CoX though, meh - CPU would hit 60 almost immediately and the GPU would climb to 60+ eventually.
I had not played for around 223 days (yep, I was still playing CoH during the RIFT betas) - and I was not having the issues then while playing CoX on Ultra. Even on Recommended, the game is simply unplayable. Which is kind of a shame - since I'd consider resubbing if I could play the game instead of watching a series of screenshots leading up to my respawning at the hospital...lol.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
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You don't have to buy the game again but you do have to Subscribe to the game as a VIP in order to access your VIP characters, this is no different to how it was before the free to play model was implemenented, back then you wouldn't have been able to access your characters with a subscription either, atleast now you can choose to play the game with some limitations for free.