I think it's because it has Star Wars in the name.
Indeed, that is the only real reason why.
No thats not the only reason.
Based on TOR timeline
BioWare story telling
Polished gameplay
Large Scale Multiplayer BioWare title.
PvP
Decision making in your quests
there are a lot of reasons. Honestly it being Star Wars is much further down on my list then it being a BioWare game, and of course, all that comes with that, like decision making and the awesome story. Plus.. the open world PvP is pretty high up there too, and after playing the game for more than a month now..... well... I can't go into the OTHER reasons I'm completely stoked.
Oh look it is Star Wars, I think I'll play it. Cmon man, it has been around for ages and alot like it. Oh wait you said polished gameplay ? LOL......
This is a genuine question. Why exactly has SW:TOR got everybody talking about it as if it's the next big thing?
I've never been interested in Star Wars at all really, it just didn't appeal to me, but it seems there's already so many people who can't wait for it to come out. I would have thought that it'd have a limited amount of people interested in it, as it's Star Wars & anybody who isn't really interested in it (such as myself) wouldn't buy it, although that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be that even non Star Wars fans are highly anticipating the release of this game.
I've not read much at all about SW:TOR as it's not been something I've bothered reading up on, although considering it's the talk of most MMO websites these days, I'm wondering why exactly.
This is probably the biggest reason you don't understand what people are excited about. Honestly. That's not a dig at you.
Don't worry, I know exactly what you meant.
Yeah, I agree actually, I did think that perhaps that was the reason, but then I was thinking the game most likely has fans awaiting it aswell who aren't even interested in Star Wars all that much.
This is a genuine question. Why exactly has SW:TOR got everybody talking about it as if it's the next big thing?
I've never been interested in Star Wars at all really, it just didn't appeal to me, but it seems there's already so many people who can't wait for it to come out. I would have thought that it'd have a limited amount of people interested in it, as it's Star Wars & anybody who isn't really interested in it (such as myself) wouldn't buy it, although that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be that even non Star Wars fans are highly anticipating the release of this game.
I've not read much at all about SW:TOR as it's not been something I've bothered reading up on, although considering it's the talk of most MMO websites these days, I'm wondering why exactly.
Well its because we're in a particular cycle where americans feel that rule-following is the most important thing in life and the devs at bioware working on this have partnered with this particular umm.. whats the word.. kried.. breed.. ummm.. blitzkreed isn't it lemme think .. ah its that word german for cultural spriit of the time you'll find it.. anyway they're following that the way blizzard followed the opportunism of the time which is now over (which is why wow sucks) but it'll end the same way all the others do and
@OP, you have fallen into the fallacious trap of believing your perceptions are also the majority's. I mean it's understandable, and people do it all the time, but it's still a fallacy. Obviously you're most familiar with your own perception of reality. It's what you experience every single day. So it becomes easy to extrapolate that to everyone else, but that's simply not always (or hardly ever) the truth of the matter for everyone else.
1) TONS of people are Star Wars fans. 2) There are also a great many Bioware fans. 3) There are also millions of burnt out MMO fans looking for the next big thing. If a player falls into any one of these categories, SW:ToR is probably on his radar. If a player falls into several of these categories (and you better believe there are millions of such players out there), then this game is definitely on his radar.
I, like you, am not a Star Wars fan. But I am a Bioware fan, and I am looking for a new great MMO to play. Although I'm looking forward to GW2 more than this game, I intend to at least try TOR out until GW2 (eventually) comes out.
1. Fully voiced dialogue. If I wanted to read 40 pages of text for each fetch quest, I'd read a damn book instead. It's just an immersion obliterator for me in mmo, so fully voiced alone will make me somewhat like it, even if the gameplay is crappish.
2. Last bastion of hope for the balanced gameplay subscription model. May pay2win burn in the deepest darkest firery depths of the abyss for all time.
Thats about it for me, I'm not a starwars nut like most. I saw the movies and thought they were "good" not the greatest thing of all time. And I hated WOW. But I'm willing to give this a shot.
To find an intelligent person in a PUG is not that rare, but to find a PUG made up of "all" intelligent people is one of the rarest phenomenons in the known universe.
1) Star Wars franchise is huge. Just the amount of people that are Star Wars fans is enough to sustain this game for years, assuming it is a solid game. This is much like the Lord of the Rings in that respect.
2) BioWare has a solid reputation as a developer.
3) Themepark design. While many outspoken critics complain about this, the fact is that themepark is still the most popular style of MMO. People are busy, life is hectic, and many don't have time to "figure it out" on their own. A lot of people do prefer ease of gameplay and developer content over freedom of choice and having to wait around for player content to evolve.
4) Sci-Fi genre. There simply aren't any good Sci-Fi MMOs on the market at this point, and many people have been waiting for one to come along for a while. Eve Online is currently the best one, but see my point #3. It's got a brutal learning curve and is the polar opposite of a themepark MMO, so it's very limited in what it can provide your standard themepark fan.
This is a genuine question. Why exactly has SW:TOR got everybody talking about it as if it's the next big thing?
I've never been interested in Star Wars at all really, it just didn't appeal to me, but it seems there's already so many people who can't wait for it to come out. I would have thought that it'd have a limited amount of people interested in it, as it's Star Wars & anybody who isn't really interested in it (such as myself) wouldn't buy it, although that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be that even non Star Wars fans are highly anticipating the release of this game.
I've not read much at all about SW:TOR as it's not been something I've bothered reading up on, although considering it's the talk of most MMO websites these days, I'm wondering why exactly.
To ask why it's popular while stating you didn't like it would suggest you aren't aware that Star Wars in fact is an extremely popular ip with many different products in it's name many of which were very popular namely the films themselves.
From there I would have to wonder if you play any other types of games because one would think you would have heard of the games developer Bioware who's reputation amongst it's fans is about as strong as any in the industry.
Some are obviously not all that impressed with the games feature list or it's design philosophy as a themepark game but themeparks do in fact rule the roost and there are quite a few people eager to play a AAA mmo with full voice over's and rich engaging storytelling (by our own standards) as well as an excellently designed companion system (something else Bioware is well known for).
To be honest I really don't have any great love for Star Trek but as having an interest in sci fi I don't avoid watching it and have probably seen most of the episodes of all the shows and every feature film, I would suggest maybe that's something you may not be mad about having tried just because you don't "like" star wars doesn't mean you couldn't find a fun game to play in either of the original KOTOR games one of which was made by TOR's developer.
If you did you may have a clearer understanding of why people are so eager for this game whether you agree or not.
Hmmm, if people are all over this game 'just' because it's Star Wars then that just seems a tad short sighted, or maybe it's just me being a bit cynical in my old age and still getting over Jar Jar Binks and a hat full of MMO disasters!
That's cool bro. But it is pretty much a beta leak and not allowed here on mmorpg.com as long as there is an NDA in place. You might want to edit it a bit.
I don't think anything I posted would violate that and can be found on many sources. Regardless I removed the detail regarding the compainion just in case.
Popular IP, and a popular developer. Also there are a few features not often found in MMOs. Lastly, people are looking for something new, and SWTOR is just over the horizon.
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast, And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed: And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill, And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!" ~Lord George Gordon Byron
This is a genuine question. Why exactly has SW:TOR got everybody talking about it as if it's the next big thing?
I've never been interested in Star Wars at all really, it just didn't appeal to me, but it seems there's already so many people who can't wait for it to come out. I would have thought that it'd have a limited amount of people interested in it, as it's Star Wars & anybody who isn't really interested in it (such as myself) wouldn't buy it, although that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be that even non Star Wars fans are highly anticipating the release of this game.
I've not read much at all about SW:TOR as it's not been something I've bothered reading up on, although considering it's the talk of most MMO websites these days, I'm wondering why exactly.
Then why are you here on the SW:ToR forums then in the first place?
There are 2 reasons im into tor and have already pr ordered.
! star wars mmo thats not a sandbox as i dont like sandbox games i perfer themepark games.
2 bioware story in an mmo setting with there companions and choice.
thats all it takes i love dragon age games even more then i do mass effect and i love mass effect. So im into tor for 2 very godo reasons its bioware story in a star wars universe with mmo mechanics like wow which ihave played and loved for 6 yrs.
People dont have to like bioware or star wars. they dont have to like tor but i dont get why they think its there job to cinvince those of us that do love tor to not like it. I wont try to cinvince u to not play gw 2 please stop trying to cinvince me im wrong to like tor and shouldnt play it
This is a genuine question. Why exactly has SW:TOR got everybody talking about it as if it's the next big thing?
I've never been interested in Star Wars at all really, it just didn't appeal to me, but it seems there's already so many people who can't wait for it to come out. I would have thought that it'd have a limited amount of people interested in it, as it's Star Wars & anybody who isn't really interested in it (such as myself) wouldn't buy it, although that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be that even non Star Wars fans are highly anticipating the release of this game.
I've not read much at all about SW:TOR as it's not been something I've bothered reading up on, although considering it's the talk of most MMO websites these days, I'm wondering why exactly.
Then why are you here on the SW:ToR forums then in the first place?
To post this thread. Not exactly hard to figure out.
This is a genuine question. Why exactly has SW:TOR got everybody talking about it as if it's the next big thing?
I've never been interested in Star Wars at all really, it just didn't appeal to me, but it seems there's already so many people who can't wait for it to come out. I would have thought that it'd have a limited amount of people interested in it, as it's Star Wars & anybody who isn't really interested in it (such as myself) wouldn't buy it, although that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be that even non Star Wars fans are highly anticipating the release of this game.
I've not read much at all about SW:TOR as it's not been something I've bothered reading up on, although considering it's the talk of most MMO websites these days, I'm wondering why exactly.
For many reasons really.
1) It's Star Wars. Star Wars has a huge fan base still.
2) It's Bioware. Bioware has a huge fan base.
3) Marketing. While not as in your face as WoW's marketing has been and is, the marketing is still pretty big for TOR.
4) Story. While many may not care about story in an MMO many still do. RPG has been reduced to mean stats, the holy trinity and other such non sense. For many of us RPG still stands for role playing game, story is a huge part of that. TOR is one of the few if not the only MMORPG that offers a personal story.
5) Simply put, the game looks fun. May not be to your liking, but for me a non fantasy centric MMO that looks like I may enjoy is a hard find.
7) well I don't have all day to post reason after reason. While TOR may not be the most innovative it polishes up some things many care about while going back to ideals that brought most of us to gaming in the first place.
I'm in no way a Theme park gamer. I like grinders or FFA PvP or a combination of both. I hate quests. But... even I've pre-ordered TOR.
This is a genuine question. Why exactly has SW:TOR got everybody talking about it as if it's the next big thing?
I've never been interested in Star Wars at all really, it just didn't appeal to me, but it seems there's already so many people who can't wait for it to come out. I would have thought that it'd have a limited amount of people interested in it, as it's Star Wars & anybody who isn't really interested in it (such as myself) wouldn't buy it, although that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems to be that even non Star Wars fans are highly anticipating the release of this game.
I've not read much at all about SW:TOR as it's not been something I've bothered reading up on, although considering it's the talk of most MMO websites these days, I'm wondering why exactly.
Firstly, your comma usage is infuriating.
Secondly, you have 3 big brand names working here. EA (can be a bit of a minus but they are a game promoting company and pretty good at it) Bioware (there is a loyal segment of the game community that loves playing anything developed by these guys, even Jade Empire) and Star Wars (It's a mainstream IP. Literally hundreds of million of people enjoy it.)
Lastly, it's the new shiny. There's a portion of the MMORPG market that just likes shiny. Quality, features, company, IP, all of that is a distant second to just the fact that it's something new.
I'm not picking up the game because I've bought this type of game too many times and I think paying a subscription to go through a Bioware single player game (even with online features) is a ridiculous development model to support.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
I think one of the biggest things about the game is that is a continuation of the KOTOR series, one of the most loved singleplayer star wars games ever. Bioware has a unique ability to produce some of the best stories in videogames I have ever played through. I am really looking forward to this game specifically for it's stories. They are gonna set a new standard for themepark MMOs with it, my opinion only though.
There are 2 reasons im into tor and have already pr ordered.
! star wars mmo thats not a sandbox as i dont like sandbox games i perfer themepark games.
2 bioware story in an mmo setting with there companions and choice.
thats all it takes i love dragon age games even more then i do mass effect and i love mass effect. So im into tor for 2 very godo reasons its bioware story in a star wars universe with mmo mechanics like wow which ihave played and loved for 6 yrs.
People dont have to like bioware or star wars. they dont have to like tor but i dont get why they think its there job to cinvince those of us that do love tor to not like it. I wont try to cinvince u to not play gw 2 please stop trying to cinvince me im wrong to like tor and shouldnt play it
You say you like SWTOR? Have you played it? How much game time have you played?How many game mechanics have you seen ?
I tihnk people should quit trying to convince "themselves" as to why they are playing and tell the TRUTH.The truth is people are basing it on something from the PAST,or the name itself or they are just jumping on the bandwagon hype because it is new and they figure there will be lots of players.Don't try and convince me you are going to play because you already know the game inside out,this is the same BS Wow players were telling me as to why they bought Wow.
If this EXACT same game was released by Sigil games and called something different,there wouldn't be 5% of the same interest,that is the truth.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
There are 2 reasons im into tor and have already pr ordered.
! star wars mmo thats not a sandbox as i dont like sandbox games i perfer themepark games.
2 bioware story in an mmo setting with there companions and choice.
thats all it takes i love dragon age games even more then i do mass effect and i love mass effect. So im into tor for 2 very godo reasons its bioware story in a star wars universe with mmo mechanics like wow which ihave played and loved for 6 yrs.
People dont have to like bioware or star wars. they dont have to like tor but i dont get why they think its there job to cinvince those of us that do love tor to not like it. I wont try to cinvince u to not play gw 2 please stop trying to cinvince me im wrong to like tor and shouldnt play it
You say you like SWTOR? Have you played it? How much game time have you played?How many game mechanics have you seen ?
I tihnk people should quit trying to convince "themselves" as to why they are playing and tell the TRUTH.The truth is people are basing it on something from the PAST,or the name itself or they are just jumping on the bandwagon hype because it is new and they figure there will be lots of players.Don't try and convince me you are going to play because you already know the game inside out,this is the same BS Wow players were telling me as to why they bought Wow.
If this EXACT same game was released by Sigil games and called something different,there wouldn't be 5% of the same interest,that is the truth.
I agree with your counter-post towards your quote, as the person does seem rather bias towards Bioware in its entirety; however, to say that you can't know a game without playing it isn't something written in stone, nor is it a fact. I have SEEN plenty of videos - most of which I am forbidden to describe here on this website. I also have a very close friend and neighbor who is actually in the beta, yet only have I watched him play. Based off my extensive time going over the current version of the game with him, I feel comfortable saying that I know quite a few things about the game - though I also understand that changes happen too often to count in beta.
That said, I agree whole-heartdly with your last comment. Nobody would be as excite if it weren't for the Bioware or Star Wars titles. A prestigious developer working with a legendary franchise to make an MMO in a time when online gaming is steadily growing popular. It doesn't take much to see why this game has so much press.
You say you like SWTOR? Have you played it? How much game time have you playes?How many game mechanics have you seen ?
I tihnk people should quit trying to convince "themselves" as to why they are playing and tell the TRUTH.The truth is people are basing it on soemthing from the PAST,or the name itslef or they are just jumping on the bandwagon hype because it is new and they figure there wil lbe lots of players.Don't try and convince me yo uare going to play because yo ualready knwo the game inside out,this is the same BS Wow players were telling me as to why they bought Wow.
If this EXACT same game was released by Sigil games and called something different,there wouldn't be 5% of the same interest,that is the truth.
I agree with the green parts to an extent. The thing is it kind of works both ways. If it is ok to love it with out ever having played the game it should be ok to dislike it based on the same information. Some people fell in to the hype (not meant as an insult) some people went the other way. I just find it hard to get all excited about something I have never had any hands on time with. I dont care who told me its great. Excitement and Hope usually leads to disappointment.
I can't get in to the whole white part of the post because I don't think there is "truth" that fits everyones reasoning. I have no idea what goes on in peoples heads nor do I want to.
The last part though I just can't argue with at all. With out the SW IP this game would not have the hype that it does.
I think it's because it has Star Wars in the name.
Indeed, that is the only real reason why.
No thats not the only reason.
Based on TOR timeline
BioWare story telling
Polished gameplay
Large Scale Multiplayer BioWare title.
PvP
Decision making in your quests
there are a lot of reasons. Honestly it being Star Wars is much further down on my list then it being a BioWare game, and of course, all that comes with that, like decision making and the awesome story. Plus.. the open world PvP is pretty high up there too, and after playing the game for more than a month now..... well... I can't go into the OTHER reasons I'm completely stoked.
Oh look it is Star Wars, I think I'll play it. Cmon man, it has been around for ages and alot like it. Oh wait you said polished gameplay ? LOL......
Yes. I did say that. And I meant it. And I have good reason to. But of course, you wouldn't know anything about that, you traded in your credibility after you waited in line all those hours for your hater card.
And, not even to go into breaking the NDA, but after hours of gameplay over testing weekends for media events, people who have played the game at conventions and so on, nobody ever says "the gameplay is buggy and incomplete". In all the videos you see, where are the broken mechanics, CTDs and jerky, jumpy responses to "poor animations and abilities"? Everything seems pretty fluid and polished.
You say you like SWTOR? Have you played it? How much game time have you played?How many game mechanics have you seen ?
I tihnk people should quit trying to convince "themselves" as to why they are playing and tell the TRUTH.The truth is people are basing it on something from the PAST,or the name itself or they are just jumping on the bandwagon hype because it is new and they figure there will be lots of players.Don't try and convince me you are going to play because you already know the game inside out,this is the same BS Wow players were telling me as to why they bought Wow.
If this EXACT same game was released by Sigil games and called something different,there wouldn't be 5% of the same interest,that is the truth.
And the problem is?
What's wrong with basing your actions on past experiences? What else would you base them on? Our vast, certain and extensive knowledge of the future?
Or reputation? We should just keep on trying and giving games made companies with bad track records chance after chance after chance? We should just ignore games made by companies that have made great game after great game?
Or other people? We shouldn't take anyone's word for anything? Try every game ourselves regardless of what other people say about it? Anyone saying anything good is just being a fanboy, anyone saying anything bad is just a hater?
Get a grip dude, we're living in reality here. If not even freaking Einstein's relativity theory can be certain then how the hell do you wish to be certain about something as subjective as an MMO?
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Oh look it is Star Wars, I think I'll play it. Cmon man, it has been around for ages and alot like it. Oh wait you said polished gameplay ? LOL......
Don't worry, I know exactly what you meant.
Yeah, I agree actually, I did think that perhaps that was the reason, but then I was thinking the game most likely has fans awaiting it aswell who aren't even interested in Star Wars all that much.
Well its because we're in a particular cycle where americans feel that rule-following is the most important thing in life and the devs at bioware working on this have partnered with this particular umm.. whats the word.. kried.. breed.. ummm.. blitzkreed isn't it lemme think .. ah its that word german for cultural spriit of the time you'll find it.. anyway they're following that the way blizzard followed the opportunism of the time which is now over (which is why wow sucks) but it'll end the same way all the others do and
yawn..
oh a video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ0Yd-Pburs
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Boo.
It's Star Wars...nothing else need be said!
@OP, you have fallen into the fallacious trap of believing your perceptions are also the majority's. I mean it's understandable, and people do it all the time, but it's still a fallacy. Obviously you're most familiar with your own perception of reality. It's what you experience every single day. So it becomes easy to extrapolate that to everyone else, but that's simply not always (or hardly ever) the truth of the matter for everyone else.
1) TONS of people are Star Wars fans. 2) There are also a great many Bioware fans. 3) There are also millions of burnt out MMO fans looking for the next big thing. If a player falls into any one of these categories, SW:ToR is probably on his radar. If a player falls into several of these categories (and you better believe there are millions of such players out there), then this game is definitely on his radar.
I, like you, am not a Star Wars fan. But I am a Bioware fan, and I am looking for a new great MMO to play. Although I'm looking forward to GW2 more than this game, I intend to at least try TOR out until GW2 (eventually) comes out.
Well for me it's two things.
1. Fully voiced dialogue. If I wanted to read 40 pages of text for each fetch quest, I'd read a damn book instead. It's just an immersion obliterator for me in mmo, so fully voiced alone will make me somewhat like it, even if the gameplay is crappish.
2. Last bastion of hope for the balanced gameplay subscription model. May pay2win burn in the deepest darkest firery depths of the abyss for all time.
Thats about it for me, I'm not a starwars nut like most. I saw the movies and thought they were "good" not the greatest thing of all time. And I hated WOW. But I'm willing to give this a shot.
To find an intelligent person in a PUG is not that rare, but to find a PUG made up of "all" intelligent people is one of the rarest phenomenons in the known universe.
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There are a few factors:
1) Star Wars franchise is huge. Just the amount of people that are Star Wars fans is enough to sustain this game for years, assuming it is a solid game. This is much like the Lord of the Rings in that respect.
2) BioWare has a solid reputation as a developer.
3) Themepark design. While many outspoken critics complain about this, the fact is that themepark is still the most popular style of MMO. People are busy, life is hectic, and many don't have time to "figure it out" on their own. A lot of people do prefer ease of gameplay and developer content over freedom of choice and having to wait around for player content to evolve.
4) Sci-Fi genre. There simply aren't any good Sci-Fi MMOs on the market at this point, and many people have been waiting for one to come along for a while. Eve Online is currently the best one, but see my point #3. It's got a brutal learning curve and is the polar opposite of a themepark MMO, so it's very limited in what it can provide your standard themepark fan.
but in all seriousness.. i think its been answered many times over; StarWars, pure and simple.
To ask why it's popular while stating you didn't like it would suggest you aren't aware that Star Wars in fact is an extremely popular ip with many different products in it's name many of which were very popular namely the films themselves.
From there I would have to wonder if you play any other types of games because one would think you would have heard of the games developer Bioware who's reputation amongst it's fans is about as strong as any in the industry.
Some are obviously not all that impressed with the games feature list or it's design philosophy as a themepark game but themeparks do in fact rule the roost and there are quite a few people eager to play a AAA mmo with full voice over's and rich engaging storytelling (by our own standards) as well as an excellently designed companion system (something else Bioware is well known for).
To be honest I really don't have any great love for Star Trek but as having an interest in sci fi I don't avoid watching it and have probably seen most of the episodes of all the shows and every feature film, I would suggest maybe that's something you may not be mad about having tried just because you don't "like" star wars doesn't mean you couldn't find a fun game to play in either of the original KOTOR games one of which was made by TOR's developer.
If you did you may have a clearer understanding of why people are so eager for this game whether you agree or not.
Hmmm, if people are all over this game 'just' because it's Star Wars then that just seems a tad short sighted, or maybe it's just me being a bit cynical in my old age and still getting over Jar Jar Binks and a hat full of MMO disasters!
I don't think anything I posted would violate that and can be found on many sources. Regardless I removed the detail regarding the compainion just in case.
Popular IP, and a popular developer. Also there are a few features not often found in MMOs. Lastly, people are looking for something new, and SWTOR is just over the horizon.
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed:
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!"
~Lord George Gordon Byron
Then why are you here on the SW:ToR forums then in the first place?
There are 2 reasons im into tor and have already pr ordered.
! star wars mmo thats not a sandbox as i dont like sandbox games i perfer themepark games.
2 bioware story in an mmo setting with there companions and choice.
thats all it takes i love dragon age games even more then i do mass effect and i love mass effect. So im into tor for 2 very godo reasons its bioware story in a star wars universe with mmo mechanics like wow which ihave played and loved for 6 yrs.
People dont have to like bioware or star wars. they dont have to like tor but i dont get why they think its there job to cinvince those of us that do love tor to not like it. I wont try to cinvince u to not play gw 2 please stop trying to cinvince me im wrong to like tor and shouldnt play it
To post this thread. Not exactly hard to figure out.
For many reasons really.
1) It's Star Wars. Star Wars has a huge fan base still.
2) It's Bioware. Bioware has a huge fan base.
3) Marketing. While not as in your face as WoW's marketing has been and is, the marketing is still pretty big for TOR.
4) Story. While many may not care about story in an MMO many still do. RPG has been reduced to mean stats, the holy trinity and other such non sense. For many of us RPG still stands for role playing game, story is a huge part of that. TOR is one of the few if not the only MMORPG that offers a personal story.
5) Simply put, the game looks fun. May not be to your liking, but for me a non fantasy centric MMO that looks like I may enjoy is a hard find.
7) well I don't have all day to post reason after reason. While TOR may not be the most innovative it polishes up some things many care about while going back to ideals that brought most of us to gaming in the first place.
I'm in no way a Theme park gamer. I like grinders or FFA PvP or a combination of both. I hate quests. But... even I've pre-ordered TOR.
Firstly, your comma usage is infuriating.
Secondly, you have 3 big brand names working here. EA (can be a bit of a minus but they are a game promoting company and pretty good at it) Bioware (there is a loyal segment of the game community that loves playing anything developed by these guys, even Jade Empire) and Star Wars (It's a mainstream IP. Literally hundreds of million of people enjoy it.)
Lastly, it's the new shiny. There's a portion of the MMORPG market that just likes shiny. Quality, features, company, IP, all of that is a distant second to just the fact that it's something new.
I'm not picking up the game because I've bought this type of game too many times and I think paying a subscription to go through a Bioware single player game (even with online features) is a ridiculous development model to support.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Well thanks for explaining why it's so popular to me guys. That's all I really needed to know tbh. Much appreciated.
I think one of the biggest things about the game is that is a continuation of the KOTOR series, one of the most loved singleplayer star wars games ever. Bioware has a unique ability to produce some of the best stories in videogames I have ever played through. I am really looking forward to this game specifically for it's stories. They are gonna set a new standard for themepark MMOs with it, my opinion only though.
You say you like SWTOR? Have you played it? How much game time have you played?How many game mechanics have you seen ?
I tihnk people should quit trying to convince "themselves" as to why they are playing and tell the TRUTH.The truth is people are basing it on something from the PAST,or the name itself or they are just jumping on the bandwagon hype because it is new and they figure there will be lots of players.Don't try and convince me you are going to play because you already know the game inside out,this is the same BS Wow players were telling me as to why they bought Wow.
If this EXACT same game was released by Sigil games and called something different,there wouldn't be 5% of the same interest,that is the truth.
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I agree with your counter-post towards your quote, as the person does seem rather bias towards Bioware in its entirety; however, to say that you can't know a game without playing it isn't something written in stone, nor is it a fact. I have SEEN plenty of videos - most of which I am forbidden to describe here on this website. I also have a very close friend and neighbor who is actually in the beta, yet only have I watched him play. Based off my extensive time going over the current version of the game with him, I feel comfortable saying that I know quite a few things about the game - though I also understand that changes happen too often to count in beta.
That said, I agree whole-heartdly with your last comment. Nobody would be as excite if it weren't for the Bioware or Star Wars titles. A prestigious developer working with a legendary franchise to make an MMO in a time when online gaming is steadily growing popular. It doesn't take much to see why this game has so much press.
I agree with the green parts to an extent. The thing is it kind of works both ways. If it is ok to love it with out ever having played the game it should be ok to dislike it based on the same information. Some people fell in to the hype (not meant as an insult) some people went the other way. I just find it hard to get all excited about something I have never had any hands on time with. I dont care who told me its great. Excitement and Hope usually leads to disappointment.
I can't get in to the whole white part of the post because I don't think there is "truth" that fits everyones reasoning. I have no idea what goes on in peoples heads nor do I want to.
The last part though I just can't argue with at all. With out the SW IP this game would not have the hype that it does.
Yes. I did say that. And I meant it. And I have good reason to. But of course, you wouldn't know anything about that, you traded in your credibility after you waited in line all those hours for your hater card.
And, not even to go into breaking the NDA, but after hours of gameplay over testing weekends for media events, people who have played the game at conventions and so on, nobody ever says "the gameplay is buggy and incomplete". In all the videos you see, where are the broken mechanics, CTDs and jerky, jumpy responses to "poor animations and abilities"? Everything seems pretty fluid and polished.
And the problem is?
What's wrong with basing your actions on past experiences? What else would you base them on? Our vast, certain and extensive knowledge of the future?
Or reputation? We should just keep on trying and giving games made companies with bad track records chance after chance after chance? We should just ignore games made by companies that have made great game after great game?
Or other people? We shouldn't take anyone's word for anything? Try every game ourselves regardless of what other people say about it? Anyone saying anything good is just being a fanboy, anyone saying anything bad is just a hater?
Get a grip dude, we're living in reality here. If not even freaking Einstein's relativity theory can be certain then how the hell do you wish to be certain about something as subjective as an MMO?
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