Actually the OP is not the only one to mix up wow and gw2. 2 of my friends(wow players) didn't know a thing about gw2 and when they watched the manifesto they compared charr/worgen Sylvari(old desing)/elf Asura/gnome(because of the size maybe?)
But starting a thread about your first impression after watching 30 seconds of a trailer is just stupid trolling.
I'm sorry but I am simply in amazment and pretty surprised. I just watched the trailer of Guild Wars 2 from their website http://www.guildwars2.com/en/. All I have to say is, World of Warcraft version 2.
Now I don't say that out of hate or to troll, but while watching that video it's what was constantly screaming out to me in my mind. It was like watching world of warcraft with a complete skin remap. They even have the same style of classes, races, freaking enemies. HELL even towns/cities look the same. They got a night elf looking area with yes elves. They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans.
I never finished watching the trailer, cause I'm laughing too much in amazement. I just wish I knew why the hell they were copying so much from wow
Yes I know about the original Guild Wars, I never played it nor followed it and no wow was definitely far from my first mmo. Just I would hope they could have at least made things a bit newer looking and refreshing.
I'm sorry but I am simply in amazement and pretty surprised. I've just read recipe for pancakes. All I have to say, Its "Macbeth" 2. Same letters, same language... Bah, same words even...
Theres a famous line from Monty Python sketch :
"Yes, you know, we find that nine out of ten British housewives can't tell the difference between Whizzo butter and a dead crab." Assumably, you must be in the "nine out of ten" category...
Well if 9/10 people seen it the way I did, then I guess 9/10 must be right. Btw, as most people here what you all failed to realize is I was expressing an opinion in how a trailer appeared to me.
Yes opinions are not 100% correct, hell hardly correct at all in most cases. But to me for the very first time seeing this game with absolutely no exposure to guild wars. That gave me an immediate reminder of wow, now I don't mean in an extremist way but aspects greatly reminded me of it. Yes char is different then worgan, yes the black citadel is different. But how about we update the graphics on wow characters, fine tune a bit and you won't see much of a difference skin wise.
As for what reminded me of gilneas was what appeared to be a castle like background which reminded me of it. It was about 3 seconds of exposure so I can't remember details.
If you cannot remember simple details, how are you to go around on forums stating what you think is fact? Without proof, there is no backup to your discussion. Without backup to your discussion, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, or trolling.
I understand that you somehow got the impression of WoW 2.0 from the trailer. But I honestly don't see how, considering your examples (charr/capital).
Btw, I have been pretty clear that what I said was based on opinion. I shouldn't have to write a disclaimer stating it when I post. No where did I say anything I said was a fact.
I was going to make a complete thought out post in rebute, but I'm done. It isn't worth it. 1/10 for making me bite.
They got a night elf looking area with yes elves. They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans.
I hate to burst your bubble OP, but Blizzard didn't create the elf.. so yes, you should expect elves in a fantasy MMO.. Also those "worgen" you are referring to are called Charr and are unique to the GW franchise. I can also attest to the fact that the cities do not even come close to resembleing the cities in WoW that you are referring to.
I have a feeling OP is trolling..
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"-Voltaire
Wow didn't invent fantasy, so I fail to see how gw2 using traditonal fantasy aspects in there game (art and lore mind you) means it's wow 2.0. The so called "worgen buildings" are based on actual architecture btw, wow didn't invent that either.( I couldn't even find what buildings you were refering, but thought I'd throw that in there).
Calling worgens charr shows you don't know much about the lore, but none of this fantasy stuff matters, considering the game has much different objectives and mechanics.
Wow didn't invent fantasy, so I fail to see how gw2 using traditonal fantasy aspects in there game (art and lore mind you) means it's wow 2.0. The so called "worgen buildings" are based on actual architecture btw, wow didn't invent that either.( I couldn't even find what buildings you were refering, but thought I'd throw that in there).
I think it was the castle like theme that I caught with the animal humanoids walking around that to me reminded me of Gilneas.
if I wasn't taken back by it so much I wouldn't have opened a thread about it. Especially considering I think I've opened maybe 3 threads on this website in 4 years, that's gotta tell you something.
You are dumb.
And that's my 16th post since 2008,that's gotta tell you something.
+1
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"-Voltaire
Actually the OP is not the only one to mix up wow and gw2. 2 of my friends(wow players) didn't know a thing about gw2 and when they watched the manifesto they compared charr/worgen Sylvari(old desing)/elf Asura/gnome(because of the size maybe?)
But starting a thread about your first impression after watching 30 seconds of a trailer is just stupid trolling.
Charr existed before WoW introduced worgen as a race.
Asura are more like things from Final Fantasy than gnomes.
Sylvari are frigging plants.
Yes almost all western fantasy has a number of tropes that get constantly recylced like those damn stupid looking pointy ears on various races.
But seriously we can play this game with ANY fantasy game with races. You realize how easy this would be to do with EQ2 right?
It would be even easier to do this with Skyrim instead of WoW, at least Edler scrolls has a race that is actually a humanoid cat similar to charr. Rather than people trying to claim a frigging Werewolf clone (as if this was created by frigging Blizzard, I mean do ppl realize how stupid this is?) is the same as Charr which are lion-like and have a completely different culture than Worgen (which really are just Werewolves, I mean they are created from humans even just like werewolves).
OMG this game has furries. WoW has furries 11111!! this must be the same. I mean come on guys. Seriously please. I am begging you. WoW took a centuries old legend and used a different name. Its not even an original name, its just something they stole from Tolkien. Please don't equate that to the Charr, just because Charr are furries.
The OP like many on this site simply can't see past WOW, I don't care what game it is, if all you can think of to compare it to is WOW. The problem doesn't rest on the shoulders of anyone or anything but yourself. You're simply suffering from tunnel vision be it through a severe hatred for WOW or too much time spent in WOW ( that or you let popular forum banter form your thoughts for you, which is worse than either). If you use the term WOW clone to describe anything I simply can't take what you say seriously.
Never used the term. Once again I simply stated it was what I was reminded of.
Now here's the thing, there was a time I did enjoy playing world of warcraft. It was rather enjoyable at one time and definitely will be hard to replace, not having played it in over 8 months I've been on an active search to find an interesting game that can give me the same gratitude that wow had once given me.
A simple question comes to mind about time/investment and if it's worth given another main stream game the effort I once put into another game. Yes I enjoyed Eve but not a fan of how it's currently being played out right now and yes the same goes for current Wow. Since Cata the game was no longer appealing to me, for multiple reasons.
Anyway, going back on topic. Even if this game was a wow clone, or not a clone it hardly matters. What matters if it can provide someone the same entertainment and the same feeling of gratitude while playing it and if the money they are spending is worth it. In a way I hope guild wars 2 has similar features to wow, cause at least I enjoyed playing it unlike many others.
The main fact is I was taken off guard with how much the trailer reminded me of it, I honestly felt a little excited in a way. To know that I might be able to get that same enjoyment I had long ago when I played a similar type game. I play games to have fun and if I can manage to find another one that I can deem just as fun then I'm all for it.
Seriously, it's just like world of warcraft.....even i can't believe how shamelessly micheal bay copy and paste those texture and spell effect into it...gosh
Even if charr resembled the wrogen they are in guild war 1 which released near same time of world of warcraft, did world of warcraft had worgen back then? uh yea thought so.
Nice troll attempt tough was fun reading every comment against your OP.
Wow didn't invent fantasy, so I fail to see how gw2 using traditonal fantasy aspects in there game (art and lore mind you) means it's wow 2.0. The so called "worgen buildings" are based on actual architecture btw, wow didn't invent that either.( I couldn't even find what buildings you were refering, but thought I'd throw that in there).
I think it was the castle like theme that I caught with the animal humanoids walking around that to me reminded me of Gilneas.
Dear Soul,
Does Canada remind you of America? Does a Donkey remind you of a Horse?
This something I haven't seen in a while, an ignorant WoW-baby.
It's made me realise that people have come a long way from thinking WoW was the first fantasy mmo. Well, most people at least.
Definitely not the first, I'm not an idiot. Secondly, it's easy to compare to games I actually played then ones I had no interest in playing especially when it's a game that everyone and their grandmother know. Your point is even less valid then the ones I tried making earlier.
Says the guy that failed trolling by posting this exact same thread in the EVE section. Lol. Nobody should give a crap about this guy or his views. He's just looking for attention.
Who watches 1/2 a trailer then decides whether or not a game is not only something for them to not consider, but decides to post that it shouldn't be considered by others because it is the same as another game? What a ridiculous post.
All of what you said is based on your personal assumption. No where did I state that it affected my view of the game, I stated I was just surprised. Secondly I did not state at all that people should change their consideration to play it.
So your saying your stating your opinion but not because you care if anybody takes it into consideration. Why would you state an opinion when you could care less about the end result of that opinion.
For myself I tried WoW, didn't think much off it and even though I have enjoyed other Blizzard offerings never felt compelled to give them any money for that offering. I didn't play far enough in the game to say GW2 is the same as WoW, but I wouldn't render an opinion about whether it was or not based on 1/2 of a trailer without knowing what the game had to offer that could make itself stand out.
Wow didn't invent fantasy, so I fail to see how gw2 using traditonal fantasy aspects in there game (art and lore mind you) means it's wow 2.0. The so called "worgen buildings" are based on actual architecture btw, wow didn't invent that either.( I couldn't even find what buildings you were refering, but thought I'd throw that in there).
I think it was the castle like theme that I caught with the animal humanoids walking around that to me reminded me of Gilneas.
Dear Soul,
Does Canada remind you of America? Does a Donkey remind you of a Horse?
Ty
You know as a Canadian I can say yes in many ways it does remind me of America. A donkey also has many similar features that a horse possesses. No neither things are alike in both questions, but they have their simularities. Which can cause someone to be reminded of one or the other in a non extremist way.
Says the guy that failed trolling by posting this exact same thread in the EVE section. Lol. Nobody should give a crap about this guy or his views. He's just looking for attention.
I clicked the new thread button without realizing exactly what feed I was located in. Simple human error, get over yourself
Threads like these makes me wonder how many smear campaigns Blizzard places in MMO gaming forums and in other games in order to sabotage launch of competitions and sway public opinions.
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Wait, what? I feel like there is a problem here somewhere... if only I could put my finger on it.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
never once thought that my self although guildwars 2 ranks #1 on my radar over any game in the next decade to buy.
Only thing Id buy before it would maybee be SWG PRE-CU recelebration monster mash with CryEngine 3 engine and new content added into it PRE-CU style.
Actually the OP is not the only one to mix up wow and gw2. 2 of my friends(wow players) didn't know a thing about gw2 and when they watched the manifesto they compared charr/worgen Sylvari(old desing)/elf Asura/gnome(because of the size maybe?)
But starting a thread about your first impression after watching 30 seconds of a trailer is just stupid trolling.
That city doesnt look like gilneas, it looks more like ironforge ::trollvictory::
Btw, I strongly reccomend that article about GW2. It may give you quite good impression how's the game like and how it differs from other MMOs:
http://tap-repeatedly.com/2011/09/29/impressions-guild-wars-2/#more-17489
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone elses opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation
I was going to make a complete thought out post in rebute, but I'm done. It isn't worth it. 1/10 for making me bite.
That actually made me laugh, pictured that stupid troll dad meme after I read that.
I hate to burst your bubble OP, but Blizzard didn't create the elf.. so yes, you should expect elves in a fantasy MMO.. Also those "worgen" you are referring to are called Charr and are unique to the GW franchise. I can also attest to the fact that the cities do not even come close to resembleing the cities in WoW that you are referring to.
I have a feeling OP is trolling..
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"-Voltaire
Wow didn't invent fantasy, so I fail to see how gw2 using traditonal fantasy aspects in there game (art and lore mind you) means it's wow 2.0. The so called "worgen buildings" are based on actual architecture btw, wow didn't invent that either.( I couldn't even find what buildings you were refering, but thought I'd throw that in there).
Calling worgens charr shows you don't know much about the lore, but none of this fantasy stuff matters, considering the game has much different objectives and mechanics.
I think it was the castle like theme that I caught with the animal humanoids walking around that to me reminded me of Gilneas.
+1
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"-Voltaire
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needed to move post to a more relevant position.
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This something I haven't seen in a while, an ignorant WoW-baby.
It's made me realise that people have come a long way from thinking WoW was the first fantasy mmo. Well, most people at least.
Charr existed before WoW introduced worgen as a race.
Asura are more like things from Final Fantasy than gnomes.
Sylvari are frigging plants.
Yes almost all western fantasy has a number of tropes that get constantly recylced like those damn stupid looking pointy ears on various races.
But seriously we can play this game with ANY fantasy game with races. You realize how easy this would be to do with EQ2 right?
It would be even easier to do this with Skyrim instead of WoW, at least Edler scrolls has a race that is actually a humanoid cat similar to charr. Rather than people trying to claim a frigging Werewolf clone (as if this was created by frigging Blizzard, I mean do ppl realize how stupid this is?) is the same as Charr which are lion-like and have a completely different culture than Worgen (which really are just Werewolves, I mean they are created from humans even just like werewolves).
OMG this game has furries. WoW has furries 11111!! this must be the same. I mean come on guys. Seriously please. I am begging you. WoW took a centuries old legend and used a different name. Its not even an original name, its just something they stole from Tolkien. Please don't equate that to the Charr, just because Charr are furries.
Never used the term. Once again I simply stated it was what I was reminded of.
Now here's the thing, there was a time I did enjoy playing world of warcraft. It was rather enjoyable at one time and definitely will be hard to replace, not having played it in over 8 months I've been on an active search to find an interesting game that can give me the same gratitude that wow had once given me.
A simple question comes to mind about time/investment and if it's worth given another main stream game the effort I once put into another game. Yes I enjoyed Eve but not a fan of how it's currently being played out right now and yes the same goes for current Wow. Since Cata the game was no longer appealing to me, for multiple reasons.
Anyway, going back on topic. Even if this game was a wow clone, or not a clone it hardly matters. What matters if it can provide someone the same entertainment and the same feeling of gratitude while playing it and if the money they are spending is worth it. In a way I hope guild wars 2 has similar features to wow, cause at least I enjoyed playing it unlike many others.
The main fact is I was taken off guard with how much the trailer reminded me of it, I honestly felt a little excited in a way. To know that I might be able to get that same enjoyment I had long ago when I played a similar type game. I play games to have fun and if I can manage to find another one that I can deem just as fun then I'm all for it.
OP should check out transformer: Dark of the moon
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399103/
Seriously, it's just like world of warcraft.....even i can't believe how shamelessly micheal bay copy and paste those texture and spell effect into it...gosh
Even if charr resembled the wrogen they are in guild war 1 which released near same time of world of warcraft, did world of warcraft had worgen back then? uh yea thought so.
Nice troll attempt tough was fun reading every comment against your OP.
Dear Soul,
Does Canada remind you of America? Does a Donkey remind you of a Horse?
Ty
Definitely not the first, I'm not an idiot. Secondly, it's easy to compare to games I actually played then ones I had no interest in playing especially when it's a game that everyone and their grandmother know. Your point is even less valid then the ones I tried making earlier.
Says the guy that failed trolling by posting this exact same thread in the EVE section. Lol. Nobody should give a crap about this guy or his views. He's just looking for attention.
So your saying your stating your opinion but not because you care if anybody takes it into consideration. Why would you state an opinion when you could care less about the end result of that opinion.
For myself I tried WoW, didn't think much off it and even though I have enjoyed other Blizzard offerings never felt compelled to give them any money for that offering. I didn't play far enough in the game to say GW2 is the same as WoW, but I wouldn't render an opinion about whether it was or not based on 1/2 of a trailer without knowing what the game had to offer that could make itself stand out.
You know as a Canadian I can say yes in many ways it does remind me of America. A donkey also has many similar features that a horse possesses. No neither things are alike in both questions, but they have their simularities. Which can cause someone to be reminded of one or the other in a non extremist way.
I clicked the new thread button without realizing exactly what feed I was located in. Simple human error, get over yourself
Threads like these makes me wonder how many smear campaigns Blizzard places in MMO gaming forums and in other games in order to sabotage launch of competitions and sway public opinions.