Those renders shown in the link are not the final version, they could very well be changed or not. I guess we will find out in about a month or two.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
They should leave them as they are. I bet there will be a way to change the models in the us ver. Or they should make the option. Then again half-naked loli's don't offend me any.
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They should leave them as they are. I bet there will be a way to change the models in the us ver. Or they should make the option. Then again half-naked loli's don't offend me any.
I swear to god I saw one yesterday running around in the city and i thought it looked like lady gaga. Pink dress with thigh high black stockings Lol.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
The changes are laughable.... because they look almost exactly the same.
Was the sliver of belly showing really that big of a deal? Seriously.... what does covering up the belly do?
Changing the bikini bottons to short-shorts is more of a change but it still isnt that dramatic. You are still left with the Ellin walking around showing a lot of leg. This just looks to be a silly controversy they created themselves for nothing.
I voted for option #3, but I could also have chosen #6 (Other..) tbh. I've hated the Elin look since I first saw them, but not because of the panties, the stomach showing or anything like that. They just look plain ugly to me. I don't get the whole talk about sexuality, cause I don't see anything remotely attractive about that race. They just look so out of place in the world of Tera. Like using the Roadrunner skin for an EVE race or something.
I find the whole pedophilia-talk ridiculous though, as I fail to see how it's even possible to "promote" any sort of sexuality. People like what they like. You can't simply "turn" people pedophiles by showing them ugly cartoons of mutated fox-women. But I guess it shouldn't really surprise me, as we constantly hear/see people whining about "Show X promoting homosexuality.", "The gay agenda" and other nonsense like that. If people are retarded enough to believe that you can turn kids gay by showing gays on TV, I suppose it doesn't take a big leap to believe the pedophilia-talk about Elins.
I voted for option #3, but I could also have chosen #6 (Other..) tbh. I've hated the Elin look since I first saw them, but not because of the panties, the stomach showing or anything like that. They just look plain ugly to me. I don't get the whole talk about sexuality, cause I don't see anything remotely attractive about that race. They just look so out of place in the world of Tera. Like using the Roadrunner skin for an EVE race or something.
I find the whole pedophilia-talk ridiculous though, as I fail to see how it's even possible to "promote" any sort of sexuality. People like what they like. You can't simply "turn" people pedophiles by showing them ugly cartoons of mutated fox-women. But I guess it shouldn't really surprise me, as we constantly hear/see people whining about "Show X promoting homosexuality.", "The gay agenda" and other nonsense like that. If people are retarded enough to believe that you can turn kids gay by showing gays on TV, I suppose it doesn't take a big leap to believe the pedophilia-talk about Elins.
And what pisses me off about the whole issue is none of the people bitching about the Elin are doing it from a moral compas stand point. Take it out of the NA/ EU version, let me keep my happy place. It's still in the Japanese version and the Korean but oh well. If I truly thought a comany, any company was peddaling loli porn I wouldn't buy shit from them. They could go die in a fire and I'd do my best to make sure it never made it to NA/ EU period. The truth is, the Elin don't look like loli chars though and the idiots making all the stink know it. They don't want any of the skin showing, they just can't come up with a good excuse as to why.
they should have option to turn it back to default or copy some files over if ppl want the original design.
That would be the common sense thing to do. Elin designs won't change the ESRB ratings either way but I think it will only be a matter of days before someone has the original designs in a file you can swap out and EME will in all likelyhood never even bother to check to see who switched out the patched armors.
Don't like for a couple of reasons. Any kind of censorship in a game is terrible. Add in the fact that here in the US you can have your kids play games where: They murder people, torture them, and flat out see tons of gore is fine, but the moment you see some skin and a slight chance of nudity we flip out. Such a ass backwards approach we take cause we try to hide such topics from our kids and let them learn it in school from their friends.
Still don't get people playing the Pedo/Loli card on them. Its a game. There is a difference between a pixel and a real person. If you can't get past that, then my previous statement rings true, eh? I really wish En Masse woulda stuck to their guns and refused to do this.
Don't like for a couple of reasons. Any kind of censorship in a game is terrible. Add in the fact that here in the US you can have your kids play games where: They murder people, torture them, and flat out see tons of gore is fine, but the moment you see some skin and a slight chance of nudity we flip out. Such a ass backwards approach we take cause we try to hide such topics from our kids and let them learn it in school from their friends.
Still don't get people playing the Pedo/Loli card on them. Its a game. There is a difference between a pixel and a real person. If you can't get past that, then my previous statement rings true, eh? I really wish En Masse woulda stuck to their guns and refused to do this.
It isn't exactly censorship, the studio fixing up the game for the Western market decided to change the design a bit. Censorship is when the goverment forces them to do it, and that isn't the case here.
Frankly does both Elin versions look rather silly to me, but I can't say I would be morally upset about either off them. On the other hand am I Swedish and I can't remember that I ever got morally upset about anything in a computer game ever, besides what Microsoft did to the Shadowrun IP.
personally i dont have a problem with the way they dressed before and after. I personally think after is cuter though. I wont be playing a ELin or a Poporri dont like their designs.
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Yeha that was kinda scarey, hehe. If they leave the other races alone, I can get over the prude western version of elin F.
Those renders shown in the link are not the final version, they could very well be changed or not. I guess we will find out in about a month or two.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
They should leave them as they are. I bet there will be a way to change the models in the us ver. Or they should make the option. Then again half-naked loli's don't offend me any.
Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!
I swear to god I saw one yesterday running around in the city and i thought it looked like lady gaga. Pink dress with thigh high black stockings Lol.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
its a fucked up world that you cant show a sexual magical being and the feminist engine herps to full force.
The changes are laughable.... because they look almost exactly the same.
Was the sliver of belly showing really that big of a deal? Seriously.... what does covering up the belly do?
Changing the bikini bottons to short-shorts is more of a change but it still isnt that dramatic. You are still left with the Ellin walking around showing a lot of leg. This just looks to be a silly controversy they created themselves for nothing.
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I voted for option #3, but I could also have chosen #6 (Other..) tbh. I've hated the Elin look since I first saw them, but not because of the panties, the stomach showing or anything like that. They just look plain ugly to me. I don't get the whole talk about sexuality, cause I don't see anything remotely attractive about that race. They just look so out of place in the world of Tera. Like using the Roadrunner skin for an EVE race or something.
I find the whole pedophilia-talk ridiculous though, as I fail to see how it's even possible to "promote" any sort of sexuality. People like what they like. You can't simply "turn" people pedophiles by showing them ugly cartoons of mutated fox-women. But I guess it shouldn't really surprise me, as we constantly hear/see people whining about "Show X promoting homosexuality.", "The gay agenda" and other nonsense like that. If people are retarded enough to believe that you can turn kids gay by showing gays on TV, I suppose it doesn't take a big leap to believe the pedophilia-talk about Elins.
And what pisses me off about the whole issue is none of the people bitching about the Elin are doing it from a moral compas stand point. Take it out of the NA/ EU version, let me keep my happy place. It's still in the Japanese version and the Korean but oh well. If I truly thought a comany, any company was peddaling loli porn I wouldn't buy shit from them. They could go die in a fire and I'd do my best to make sure it never made it to NA/ EU period. The truth is, the Elin don't look like loli chars though and the idiots making all the stink know it. They don't want any of the skin showing, they just can't come up with a good excuse as to why.
Umm sorry the poll is not worth voting in the way it is worded.
And anyone that thinks thinks they look like kids, do you really think putting more or different clothes on them would change that?
Nothing less than for them to change the models completely would ever satisfy people that see them that way.
I wonder if the game would actually sell more, or retain more subs if it didn't change it's artwork.
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That would be the common sense thing to do. Elin designs won't change the ESRB ratings either way but I think it will only be a matter of days before someone has the original designs in a file you can swap out and EME will in all likelyhood never even bother to check to see who switched out the patched armors.
I didt care about this nonsense in the 1st place but i stil gotta say i liked the new one better.
One small paragraph in a Lore blog started this all. Where described, 'Elin were imbued to look child like for most of thier lives'.
Hence the loli-crap bandwagon.
I never intended to play Elin anyway. Censorship in this way still smells of nany state in overdrive.
Don't like for a couple of reasons. Any kind of censorship in a game is terrible. Add in the fact that here in the US you can have your kids play games where: They murder people, torture them, and flat out see tons of gore is fine, but the moment you see some skin and a slight chance of nudity we flip out. Such a ass backwards approach we take cause we try to hide such topics from our kids and let them learn it in school from their friends.
Still don't get people playing the Pedo/Loli card on them. Its a game. There is a difference between a pixel and a real person. If you can't get past that, then my previous statement rings true, eh? I really wish En Masse woulda stuck to their guns and refused to do this.
It isn't exactly censorship, the studio fixing up the game for the Western market decided to change the design a bit. Censorship is when the goverment forces them to do it, and that isn't the case here.
Frankly does both Elin versions look rather silly to me, but I can't say I would be morally upset about either off them. On the other hand am I Swedish and I can't remember that I ever got morally upset about anything in a computer game ever, besides what Microsoft did to the Shadowrun IP.
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personally i dont have a problem with the way they dressed before and after. I personally think after is cuter though. I wont be playing a ELin or a Poporri dont like their designs.