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CalmOceansCalmOceans Member UncommonPosts: 2,437

Keep in mind that resources on Earth are actually scarse with this big a population.

You might think it doesn't matter, you might not see it, but there's a much bigger problem than climate change, it's Earth's resources.

So when you buy that silly gift, think if the person can actually use it and you're not just buying for the sake of buying.

If people keep this up we will have no resources more in a not too distant future.

That's all (if you don't agree that is fine, I'm not asking you to).

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  • generals3generals3 Member Posts: 3,307

    alternatively some people on this planet might stop breeding like rabbits reducing the need for resources in the future.

    But hey, this is a great excuse for when i forget to buy a gift for someone, thanks for the tip^^

    Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
    Among those who dislike oppression are many who like to oppress.

  • StonesDKStonesDK Member UncommonPosts: 1,805

    Wish I cared about things like that but I don't. I also toss out food without caring about the starving people in Africa. Sometimes I don't even recycle my batteries and it goes straight in the trash. I also don't measure my washing soap and detergent. I just pour it in based on what I feel is a good measurement. I also skip the dolphin safe tuna if I can get a good deal on another brand

     

    But keep on fighting the good fight.

  • ForTheCityForTheCity Member Posts: 307

    What if i need all the useless junk i buy, and i know my friends will need the useless junk i buy for them. To be honest i hate getting gifts, and i'm not big on giving them either. I would rather the person save their money and keep it for something they need, instead of buying me something i don't need. Also I'm somewhat stingy, unless its for my gf. I only buy what i need (unless its food) and don't ever buy junk (besides the ice cream maker that i never used). 

  • pyrofreakpyrofreak Member UncommonPosts: 1,481

    The universe has infinite resources. Running out on our little rock would merely accelerate the development of getting resources non-earth sources. Which is a good thing.

    Now with 57.3% more flames!

  • twodayslatetwodayslate Member Posts: 724

    Huh, so that means that by not celebrating this holiday, I am doing something other than drawing the ire of throngs of idiots?  But.. I was enjoying being demonized for not participating in a holiday related to someone else's god.

  • Scubie67Scubie67 Member UncommonPosts: 462

    When you piss resources go back into the ground ,when you take a dump resources go back into the ground..and when you die resouces go back into the ground ,the only way you loose them is to blast them off into space  OR use them faster than thousands to millions of years it takes to replenish themselves.

     Also the earth is constantly being hit by meteorites which are constanly adding to the Mass of the Earth ,although its slowly happening just like it has been for 4.5 billions years now.

  • ZindaihasZindaihas Member UncommonPosts: 3,662

    Gee, I was going to buy my family a forest that they could light on fire just for the fun of it, but after that post, I'm feeling a little guilty about it now.  Ok, you've convinced me, the forest stays for now.  Maybe I'll get them a lake instead that they can dump their garbage into.  I'll make sure they don't touch the resources at all. image

  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    Originally posted by Starpower

    Wish I cared about things like that but I don't. I also toss out food without caring about the starving people in Africa. Sometimes I don't even recycle my batteries and it goes straight in the trash. I also don't measure my washing soap and detergent. I just pour it in based on what I feel is a good measurement. I also skip the dolphin safe tuna if I can get a good deal on another brand

     

    But keep on fighting the good fight.

    You really shouldn't waste food or soap; you are wasting a lot of money and probably wrecking your clothing in the process.

  • StonesDKStonesDK Member UncommonPosts: 1,805

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    Originally posted by Starpower

    Wish I cared about things like that but I don't. I also toss out food without caring about the starving people in Africa. Sometimes I don't even recycle my batteries and it goes straight in the trash. I also don't measure my washing soap and detergent. I just pour it in based on what I feel is a good measurement. I also skip the dolphin safe tuna if I can get a good deal on another brand

     

    But keep on fighting the good fight.

    You really shouldn't waste food or soap; you are wasting a lot of money and probably wrecking your clothing in the process.

    Wasting food doesn't matter. We have all been indoctrinated and brainwashed into thinking, oh those poor people who have nothing. We should all feel humble and guilty for having things they don't. I say screw that. I have exposable income and I shouldn't feel guilty for spending just how I like or be wasteful just how I like. And I sleep perfectly every night doing it.

  • BlazinBladesBlazinBlades Member Posts: 1,214

    Originally posted by CalmOceans

    Keep in mind that resources on Earth are actually scarse with this big a population.

    You might think it doesn't matter, you might not see it, but there's a much bigger problem than climate change, it's Earth's resources.

    So when you buy that silly gift, think if the person can actually use it and you're not just buying for the sake of buying.

    If people keep this up we will have no resources more in a not too distant future.

    That's all (if you don't agree that is fine, I'm not asking you to).

     

    Well first off I do not like buying gifts for people because I take more joy in taking than in giving.....so I never buy gifts I just expect and enjoy the gifts that employees give me which is part of their job.....plus they fully understand I have standards of gifts and a certian level of cost.....they know not to be cheap or they wont enjoy the hicups in their career.

     

    Second we need to consume all the resources we can consume it all......eat everything, chop everything down, build as many mixed developments we can, produe as much oil we can, lets do it all, why????.....the future? what does the future hve to do with me....what do I care if kids in a 100 years ave bad air to beath....noneof that affects me and my standard of living.....consuming more resources means that my stardard of living goes up and up. The future is the problem of the people in the future. Who cares........

    Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.

  • generals3generals3 Member Posts: 3,307

    Originally posted by BlazinBlades

     

    Second we need to consume all the resources we can consume it all......eat everything, chop everything down, build as many mixed developments we can, produe as much oil we can, lets do it all, why????.....the future? what does the future hve to do with me....what do I care if kids in a 100 years ave bad air to beath....noneof that affects me and my standard of living.....consuming more resources means that my stardard of living goes up and up. The future is the problem of the people in the future. Who cares........

    Don't you feel like a jack ass? No offense but what if you were born in 100 years and had to pay for the consequences of what the likes of you did? And what about your own children/grand children? Do you wish for them to live in misery?

     

    At least some people try to "rationalise" their consumerism with reasons "better" than just "i don't care because it won't affect me".

    Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
    Among those who dislike oppression are many who like to oppress.

  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    Originally posted by Starpower

    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by Starpower

    Wish I cared about things like that but I don't. I also toss out food without caring about the starving people in Africa. Sometimes I don't even recycle my batteries and it goes straight in the trash. I also don't measure my washing soap and detergent. I just pour it in based on what I feel is a good measurement. I also skip the dolphin safe tuna if I can get a good deal on another brand

     

    But keep on fighting the good fight.

    You really shouldn't waste food or soap; you are wasting a lot of money and probably wrecking your clothing in the process.

    Wasting food doesn't matter. We have all been indoctrinated and brainwashed into thinking, oh those poor people who have nothing. We should all feel humble and guilty for having things they don't. I say screw that. I have exposable income and I shouldn't feel guilty for spending just how I like or be wasteful just how I like. And I sleep perfectly every night doing it.

    There is no excuse for food to spoil in the western world.

    You are either buying too much food for you to consume or you are not propertly storing the food - either way you should adjust yourself to meet your own specific needs because you could be losing a lot of money over something so trivial and easily corrected.

    Also, I'd point out that you equate wasting food with starving people in Africa, whereas I equate wasting food with wasting money.  You should respect your wealth more than just pissing it away on something that gives you little to no returns - buy a lottery ticket if you want to do that at least with a ticket you have a potential gain.

  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    Originally posted by generals3

    Originally posted by BlazinBlades



     

    Second we need to consume all the resources we can consume it all......eat everything, chop everything down, build as many mixed developments we can, produe as much oil we can, lets do it all, why????.....the future? what does the future hve to do with me....what do I care if kids in a 100 years ave bad air to beath....noneof that affects me and my standard of living.....consuming more resources means that my stardard of living goes up and up. The future is the problem of the people in the future. Who cares........

    Don't you feel like a jack ass? No offense but what if you were born in 100 years and had to pay for the consequences of what the likes of you did? And what about your own children/grand children? Do you wish for them to live in misery?

     

    At least some people try to "rationalise" their consumerism with reasons "better" than just "i don't care because it won't affect me".

    It would seem that he has no prospects of being able to have children and with his attitude how can you really blame the women around him?

  • twodayslatetwodayslate Member Posts: 724

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    Originally posted by Starpower


    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by Starpower

    Wish I cared about things like that but I don't. I also toss out food without caring about the starving people in Africa. Sometimes I don't even recycle my batteries and it goes straight in the trash. I also don't measure my washing soap and detergent. I just pour it in based on what I feel is a good measurement. I also skip the dolphin safe tuna if I can get a good deal on another brand

     

    But keep on fighting the good fight.

    You really shouldn't waste food or soap; you are wasting a lot of money and probably wrecking your clothing in the process.

    Wasting food doesn't matter. We have all been indoctrinated and brainwashed into thinking, oh those poor people who have nothing. We should all feel humble and guilty for having things they don't. I say screw that. I have exposable income and I shouldn't feel guilty for spending just how I like or be wasteful just how I like. And I sleep perfectly every night doing it.

    There is no excuse for food to spoil in the western world.

    You are either buying too much food for you to consume or you are not propertly storing the food - either way you should adjust yourself to meet your own specific needs because you could be losing a lot of money over something so trivial and easily corrected.

    Also, I'd point out that you equate wasting food with starving people in Africa, whereas I equate wasting food with wasting money.  You should respect your wealth more than just pissing it away on something that gives you little to no returns - buy a lottery ticket if you want to do that at least with a ticket you have a potential gain.

    Food does go bad, it isn't a crime.  If you are going to waste your energy griping about microbial propagation, you might as well use that energy by supporting food packaging reform.  It isn't the spoilage that is the problem (subsidies will exist in the US no matter what the consumer does), but how many tons of plastic and petroleum byproducts that come with said food.

    And for the record, starving Africans are neither the fault of, nor can they be helped by, the average consumer.  The very notion of doing anything for Africa's economic sake, either through donations or resource conservation, is pure self-gratification.  By now everyone is more than aware of the systematic suppression of that entire continent by multinational corporations and their first world government backers.  Sort of like Terra Nova, only instead of an entire prehistoric alternate dimension, it is a resource rich land mass full of people that the controlling races of the world see as a nuisance.

  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    Originally posted by twodayslate

    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by Starpower


    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by Starpower

    Wish I cared about things like that but I don't. I also toss out food without caring about the starving people in Africa. Sometimes I don't even recycle my batteries and it goes straight in the trash. I also don't measure my washing soap and detergent. I just pour it in based on what I feel is a good measurement. I also skip the dolphin safe tuna if I can get a good deal on another brand

     

    But keep on fighting the good fight.

    You really shouldn't waste food or soap; you are wasting a lot of money and probably wrecking your clothing in the process.

    Wasting food doesn't matter. We have all been indoctrinated and brainwashed into thinking, oh those poor people who have nothing. We should all feel humble and guilty for having things they don't. I say screw that. I have exposable income and I shouldn't feel guilty for spending just how I like or be wasteful just how I like. And I sleep perfectly every night doing it.

    There is no excuse for food to spoil in the western world.

    You are either buying too much food for you to consume or you are not propertly storing the food - either way you should adjust yourself to meet your own specific needs because you could be losing a lot of money over something so trivial and easily corrected.

    Also, I'd point out that you equate wasting food with starving people in Africa, whereas I equate wasting food with wasting money.  You should respect your wealth more than just pissing it away on something that gives you little to no returns - buy a lottery ticket if you want to do that at least with a ticket you have a potential gain.

    Food does go bad, it isn't a crime.  If you are going to waste your energy griping about microbial propagation, you might as well use that energy by supporting food packaging reform.  It isn't the spoilage that is the problem (subsidies will exist in the US no matter what the consumer does), but how many tons of plastic and petroleum byproducts that come with said food.

    And for the record, starving Africans are neither the fault of, nor can they be helped by, the average consumer.  The very notion of doing anything for Africa's economic sake, either through donations or resource conservation, is pure self-gratification.  By now everyone is more than aware of the systematic suppression of that entire continent by multinational corporations and their first world government backers.  Sort of like Terra Nova, only instead of an entire prehistoric alternate dimension, it is a resource rich land mass full of people that the controlling races of the world see as a nuisance.

    Cite an example where a household would waste food due to spoilage that doesn't involve buying too much food for the household to consume or improper storage of the food.

  • twodayslatetwodayslate Member Posts: 724

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    Originally posted by twodayslate


    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by Starpower


    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by Starpower

    Wish I cared about things like that but I don't. I also toss out food without caring about the starving people in Africa. Sometimes I don't even recycle my batteries and it goes straight in the trash. I also don't measure my washing soap and detergent. I just pour it in based on what I feel is a good measurement. I also skip the dolphin safe tuna if I can get a good deal on another brand

     

    But keep on fighting the good fight.

    You really shouldn't waste food or soap; you are wasting a lot of money and probably wrecking your clothing in the process.

    Wasting food doesn't matter. We have all been indoctrinated and brainwashed into thinking, oh those poor people who have nothing. We should all feel humble and guilty for having things they don't. I say screw that. I have exposable income and I shouldn't feel guilty for spending just how I like or be wasteful just how I like. And I sleep perfectly every night doing it.

    There is no excuse for food to spoil in the western world.

    You are either buying too much food for you to consume or you are not propertly storing the food - either way you should adjust yourself to meet your own specific needs because you could be losing a lot of money over something so trivial and easily corrected.

    Also, I'd point out that you equate wasting food with starving people in Africa, whereas I equate wasting food with wasting money.  You should respect your wealth more than just pissing it away on something that gives you little to no returns - buy a lottery ticket if you want to do that at least with a ticket you have a potential gain.

    Food does go bad, it isn't a crime.  If you are going to waste your energy griping about microbial propagation, you might as well use that energy by supporting food packaging reform.  It isn't the spoilage that is the problem (subsidies will exist in the US no matter what the consumer does), but how many tons of plastic and petroleum byproducts that come with said food.

    And for the record, starving Africans are neither the fault of, nor can they be helped by, the average consumer.  The very notion of doing anything for Africa's economic sake, either through donations or resource conservation, is pure self-gratification.  By now everyone is more than aware of the systematic suppression of that entire continent by multinational corporations and their first world government backers.  Sort of like Terra Nova, only instead of an entire prehistoric alternate dimension, it is a resource rich land mass full of people that the controlling races of the world see as a nuisance.

    Cite an example where a household would waste food due to spoilage that doesn't involve buying too much food for the household to consume or improper storage of the food.

    Uh, my house?  If you've found a way to make bread products preserve forever when they are already half expired by the time they get to the store, then by all means share with the group.

    The problem with people like you is that you relieve the big store distributors of all blame and place it solely on the consumer.  Not all food is sold at 100% freshness, that is just a fact of life.

  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    Originally posted by twodayslate

    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by twodayslate


    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by Starpower


    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by Starpower

    Wish I cared about things like that but I don't. I also toss out food without caring about the starving people in Africa. Sometimes I don't even recycle my batteries and it goes straight in the trash. I also don't measure my washing soap and detergent. I just pour it in based on what I feel is a good measurement. I also skip the dolphin safe tuna if I can get a good deal on another brand

     

    But keep on fighting the good fight.

    You really shouldn't waste food or soap; you are wasting a lot of money and probably wrecking your clothing in the process.

    Wasting food doesn't matter. We have all been indoctrinated and brainwashed into thinking, oh those poor people who have nothing. We should all feel humble and guilty for having things they don't. I say screw that. I have exposable income and I shouldn't feel guilty for spending just how I like or be wasteful just how I like. And I sleep perfectly every night doing it.

    There is no excuse for food to spoil in the western world.

    You are either buying too much food for you to consume or you are not propertly storing the food - either way you should adjust yourself to meet your own specific needs because you could be losing a lot of money over something so trivial and easily corrected.

    Also, I'd point out that you equate wasting food with starving people in Africa, whereas I equate wasting food with wasting money.  You should respect your wealth more than just pissing it away on something that gives you little to no returns - buy a lottery ticket if you want to do that at least with a ticket you have a potential gain.

    Food does go bad, it isn't a crime.  If you are going to waste your energy griping about microbial propagation, you might as well use that energy by supporting food packaging reform.  It isn't the spoilage that is the problem (subsidies will exist in the US no matter what the consumer does), but how many tons of plastic and petroleum byproducts that come with said food.

    And for the record, starving Africans are neither the fault of, nor can they be helped by, the average consumer.  The very notion of doing anything for Africa's economic sake, either through donations or resource conservation, is pure self-gratification.  By now everyone is more than aware of the systematic suppression of that entire continent by multinational corporations and their first world government backers.  Sort of like Terra Nova, only instead of an entire prehistoric alternate dimension, it is a resource rich land mass full of people that the controlling races of the world see as a nuisance.

    Cite an example where a household would waste food due to spoilage that doesn't involve buying too much food for the household to consume or improper storage of the food.

    Uh, my house?  If you've found a way to make bread products preserve forever when they are already half expired by the time they get to the store, then by all means share with the group.

    The problem with people like you is that you relieve the big store distributors of all blame and place it solely on the consumer.  Not all food is sold at 100% freshness, that is just a fact of life.

    Did you try using a freezer to "freeze" the bread until you need it?

    If you are unhappy with the freshness at that store go somewhere else or complain to them about it.  Explain to them that you like their store but you don't buy your bread there and give the reasons why and tell them where you buy your bread and give them the reason why. 

    I buy produce at one store, dairy at another, and meat and bread at yet another.

    The problem with people like you is that you don't vote with your wallet you just shrug at take it as if you have no other options.

  • twodayslatetwodayslate Member Posts: 724

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    ---

    Did you try using a freezer to "freeze" the bread until you need it?

    If you are unhappy with the freshness at that store go somewhere else or complain to them about it.  Explain to them that you like their store but you don't buy your bread there and give the reasons why and tell them where you buy your bread and give them the reason why. 

    I buy produce at one store, dairy at another, and meat and bread at yet another.

    The problem with people like you is that you don't vote with your wallet you just shrug at take it as if you have no other options.

    Yeah that's a solution.  Because when people want a sandwich, they want it 15 minutes from now and soggy from condensation.

    Not sure what kind of a hippie utopia you live in, or what mythical customer is always right stores cater to your area, but they don't exist in America.  This is the land of overproduction for the sake of an increased chance of having a viable product, people here take the same approach to growing food as they do to having children.  The farmer's market type of store is a rarity anymore, and the few that do exist around here charge a horrendous (some are near 50%) markup on the product, and I'm sure you are aware of our economic condition up there.

    So yes, continue to lord your tragically Canadian sensibilities over everyone as if you know what you are talking about, I find it entertaining.

  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    Originally posted by twodayslate

    Originally posted by Hazelle


    ---

    Did you try using a freezer to "freeze" the bread until you need it?

    If you are unhappy with the freshness at that store go somewhere else or complain to them about it.  Explain to them that you like their store but you don't buy your bread there and give the reasons why and tell them where you buy your bread and give them the reason why. 

    I buy produce at one store, dairy at another, and meat and bread at yet another.

    The problem with people like you is that you don't vote with your wallet you just shrug at take it as if you have no other options.

    Yeah that's a solution.  Because when people want a sandwich, they want it 15 minutes from now and soggy from condensation.

    Not sure what kind of a hippie utopia you live in, or what mythical customer is always right stores cater to your area, but they don't exist in America.  This is the land of overproduction for the sake of an increased chance of having a viable product, people here take the same approach to growing food as they do to having children.  The farmer's market type of store is a rarity anymore, and the few that do exist around here charge a horrendous (some are near 50%) markup on the product, and I'm sure you are aware of our economic condition up there.

    So yes, continue to lord your tragically Canadian sensibilities over everyone as if you know what you are talking about, I find it entertaining.

    Oh, well then I guess there's nothing you can do about it...  oh no wait, there's quite a few things...

    Bring out as much as you think you'll use the night before...?

    Or if you just really need a sandwich NOW! use a toaster and put the frozen bread into the toaster and make a toasted sandwich...?

    Put the bread in a microwave safe dish, cover it with plastic wrap. set the microwave to defrost and warm up the bread...?

    Buy a bread machine and make your own bread...?

    The problem is that there are far to few of people like me and far too many people like you.  If we both complained about these things they'd be addressed, but as it is, you are the silent majority that just takes it on the chin as if it's an act of nature instead of a failure of man.

     

  • twodayslatetwodayslate Member Posts: 724

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    Originally posted by twodayslate


    Originally posted by Hazelle


    ---

    Did you try using a freezer to "freeze" the bread until you need it?

    If you are unhappy with the freshness at that store go somewhere else or complain to them about it.  Explain to them that you like their store but you don't buy your bread there and give the reasons why and tell them where you buy your bread and give them the reason why. 

    I buy produce at one store, dairy at another, and meat and bread at yet another.

    The problem with people like you is that you don't vote with your wallet you just shrug at take it as if you have no other options.

    Yeah that's a solution.  Because when people want a sandwich, they want it 15 minutes from now and soggy from condensation.

    Not sure what kind of a hippie utopia you live in, or what mythical customer is always right stores cater to your area, but they don't exist in America.  This is the land of overproduction for the sake of an increased chance of having a viable product, people here take the same approach to growing food as they do to having children.  The farmer's market type of store is a rarity anymore, and the few that do exist around here charge a horrendous (some are near 50%) markup on the product, and I'm sure you are aware of our economic condition up there.

    So yes, continue to lord your tragically Canadian sensibilities over everyone as if you know what you are talking about, I find it entertaining.

    Oh, well then I guess there's nothing you can do about it...  oh no wait, there's quite a few things...

    Bring out as much as you think you'll use the night before...?

    Or if you just really need a sandwich NOW! use a toaster and put the frozen bread into the toaster and make a toasted sandwich...?

    Put the bread in a microwave safe dish, cover it with plastic wrap. set the microwave to defrost and warm up the bread...?

    Buy a bread machine and make your own bread...?

    The problem is that there are far to few of people like me and far too many people like you.  If we both complained about this things they'd be addressed, but as it is, you are the silent majority that just takes it on the chin as if it's an act of nature instead of a failure of man.

     

    Adorable, but no, you aren't a revolutionary.  You aren't going to save this species by dropping pseudo-intellectual lines about food conservation and passing judgement on people who know better than to complain about the wrong issues.  Out of all the things that are killing this planet's survivability, food conservation is somewhere on the scale of importance next to finding the perfect formula for a boy band: humanity bypassed the threat of the whole soil depletion thing about 80 years ago.  Like I said before, all that energy would be better spent convincing others of the need for packaging reform: plastics, styrofoam, etc.  There are a number of small movements gaining strength all over the place to ban the use of unrecyclable materials, and force the use of recyclable materials in normal packaging.

    Take the advice, don't take it, I could care less.  But please, do move along and leave the real issues to people like myself who have the science training to deal with it.  I'll admit that misguided hippies are good entertainment fodder, but you ultimately do no good for anyone but yourselves.

    Edit: almost forgot.  You realize that three out of four of those ideas involve an increased carbon footprint right?  You are essentially trading a false poison for a real poison.

  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    Originally posted by twodayslate

    Originally posted by Hazelle


    Originally posted by twodayslate


    Originally posted by Hazelle


    ---

    Did you try using a freezer to "freeze" the bread until you need it?

    If you are unhappy with the freshness at that store go somewhere else or complain to them about it.  Explain to them that you like their store but you don't buy your bread there and give the reasons why and tell them where you buy your bread and give them the reason why. 

    I buy produce at one store, dairy at another, and meat and bread at yet another.

    The problem with people like you is that you don't vote with your wallet you just shrug at take it as if you have no other options.

    Yeah that's a solution.  Because when people want a sandwich, they want it 15 minutes from now and soggy from condensation.

    Not sure what kind of a hippie utopia you live in, or what mythical customer is always right stores cater to your area, but they don't exist in America.  This is the land of overproduction for the sake of an increased chance of having a viable product, people here take the same approach to growing food as they do to having children.  The farmer's market type of store is a rarity anymore, and the few that do exist around here charge a horrendous (some are near 50%) markup on the product, and I'm sure you are aware of our economic condition up there.

    So yes, continue to lord your tragically Canadian sensibilities over everyone as if you know what you are talking about, I find it entertaining.

    Oh, well then I guess there's nothing you can do about it...  oh no wait, there's quite a few things...

    Bring out as much as you think you'll use the night before...?

    Or if you just really need a sandwich NOW! use a toaster and put the frozen bread into the toaster and make a toasted sandwich...?

    Put the bread in a microwave safe dish, cover it with plastic wrap. set the microwave to defrost and warm up the bread...?

    Buy a bread machine and make your own bread...?

    The problem is that there are far to few of people like me and far too many people like you.  If we both complained about this things they'd be addressed, but as it is, you are the silent majority that just takes it on the chin as if it's an act of nature instead of a failure of man.

     

    Adorable, but no, you aren't a revolutionary.  You aren't going to save this species by dropping pseudo-intellectual lines about food conservation and passing judgement on people who know better than to complain about the wrong issues.  Out of all the things that are killing this planet's survivability, food conservation is somewhere on the scale of importance next to finding the perfect formula for a boy band: humanity bypassed the threat of the whole soil depletion thing about 80 years ago.  Like I said before, all that energy would be better spent convincing others of the need for packaging reform: plastics, styrofoam, etc.  There are a number of small movements gaining strength all over the place to ban the use of unrecyclable materials, and force the use of recyclable materials in normal packaging.

    Take the advice, don't take it, I could care less.  But please, do move along and leave the real issues to people like myself who have the science training to deal with it.  I'll admit that misguided hippies are good entertainment fodder, but you ultimately do no good for anyone but yourselves.

    Edit: almost forgot.  You realize that three out of four of those ideas involve an increased carbon footprint right?  You are essentially trading a false poison for a real poison.

    "Pseudo-intellectual"?  It's simple food management your great-grandmother knew about.

    You don`t have the forsight to bring bread out before you`ll need it yet you think you`re going to be the one to solve a problem?

    No offense fella but this thread and your posts in it make it pretty clear that you lack even rudimentary problem solving skills.

    If you can't solve something as simple as bread spoiling with 150 year old technology how are you going to solve anything significantly more complex?

    As I pointed out above so many posts ago food spoiling has more to do with money saving than saving the planet, but I will point out that I consume less product and make less bread runs than you and every bit helps - isn't it so?

  • Man1acMan1ac Member Posts: 1,428

    you're a victim of commercialization, finished the sentence for you mate.

    We're all Geniuses. Most of us just don't know it.

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