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BUYING A NEW COMPUTER...PLEASE HELP.

Ok so im buying a new computer to run swtor and I have come up with some choices. Can you tell me how much fps these computers can run the game at.





first computer: gateway

intel core i5-2320 3.0 ghz

nvdia geforce gtx 520

6gb memory

windows 7

for: 649.99







second:gateway

intel core i7-2600 3.4ghz

AMD HD6750 graphics

8gb memory

windows7

for:899.99







what fps can i get on these comps. I would prefer to get the cheaper one if it can run it well.



Thanks.

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  • DocEllis611DocEllis611 Member Posts: 86

    pretty sure something like a million fps.

  • ITIATTITIATT Member Posts: 8

    awesome thanks! just signed up for this forum. If this is how everyone is I will not be coming back.

  • RaoraRaora Member Posts: 243

    Originally posted by ITIATT

    awesome thanks! just signed up for this forum. If this is how everyone is I will not be coming back.

    you should be fine with either. And get used to responses like that here unfortunately

  • MattNeMattNe Member Posts: 90

    In all seriousness both of those systems have stats that will run ToR like a dream.

    I have a AMD PhenomII X4 955 OC'd to 3.5 with a GTX 275 and 8 gigs ram. During the Beta I had no hiccups at all.

     

    Dont mind the Trolls, sticks and stones...as they say...welcone to the forums

  • DocEllis611DocEllis611 Member Posts: 86

    Originally posted by Raora

    you should be fine with either. And get used to responses like that here unfortunately

    What!? That's pretty much what I just said...  If you don't know for sure, then why was my post any less helpful than yours? Because it was laced with humor?

     

    Both computers are going to run the game amazingly. I have no idea exactly what the fps will be for both, and it looks like you don't either.

  • ITIATTITIATT Member Posts: 8

    Originally posted by DocEllis611

    Originally posted by Raora


    you should be fine with either. And get used to responses like that here unfortunately

    What!? That's pretty much what I just said...  If you don't know for sure, then why was my post any less helpful than yours? Beucase it was laced with humor?

     

    Both computers are going to run the game amazingly. I have no idea exactly what the fps will be for both, and it looks like you don't either.

    you could just have said they would run the game fine you just don't know how much fps. Because in my eyes it seemed like you weren't even giving an effort to help.

  • caremuchlesscaremuchless Member Posts: 603

    Originally posted by ITIATT

    Ok so im buying a new computer to run swtor and I have come up with some choices. Can you tell me how much fps these computers can run the game at.





    first computer: gateway

    intel core i5-2320 3.0 ghz

    nvdia geforce gtx 520

    6gb memory

    windows 7

    for: 649.99







    second:gateway

    intel core i7-2600 3.4ghz

    AMD HD6750 graphics

    8gb memory

    windows7

    for:899.99







    what fps can i get on these comps. I would prefer to get the cheaper one if it can run it well.



    Thanks.

    Dont get a gateway, for one.

     

    2- You wont see any different between an I7 and a I5, go with an I 5.

     

    Here is a decent deal from dell  699

    I5

    Radeon 6450 1gb vid card

    6gb ddr3 ram

    500gb hd

    36mos mcafee included

     

    and for $159  Dell Flat panel Led     = $859 full computer and kick ass monitor.

     

    Or if you are going for a tower alone

     

    You cant beat this, 1300 dollar computer down to $872

    Radeon 6870

    I 7

    8gb DDR3

    500gb HD

     

     

    I'll help you with the above builds on dell.com. Or if you are game, you could always build your own.

     

     

    image

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    Originally posted by ITIATT

    awesome thanks! just signed up for this forum. If this is how everyone is I will not be coming back.

    Judging from this post you should fit in just fine.

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • KabaalKabaal Member UncommonPosts: 3,042

    I wouldn't advise that you buy either of those machines

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483

    You're going about this all wrong.

    First, the hardware section of the forum is over here:

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/forum/851/Hardware.html

    I don't blame you for not knowing that as you're new here.  But you're more likely to get useful help if you post in the section frequented by people who actually know something about computer hardware.

    Next, don't buy a prebuilt computer.  Just don't.  If they don't tell you exactly what parts they're using, then it means they're using the cheapest parts that technically meet their claimed specs and probably won't fail so badly that someone who is clueless about computers will realize that it broke.

    The ideal route is to build your own computer.  You can pick the exact parts and make sure everything is done right.  If you can't or won't do that, then the next best thing is getting one built to order by a site that will tell you exactly which parts they're using.  The motherboard, case, and especially power supply are important.  If they won't give you the exact brand name and model for those parts (some partial specs are not enough), then don't buy a computer from that source.

    As for what you've picked, a GeForce GT 520 (there is no such card as a GTX 520) is a low end video card that is actually slower than modern integrated graphics.  A Radeon HD 6750 is better, but still not what you'd want for a gaming system on that budget.

    Meanwhile, a Core i5 2320 is a low bin of Sandy Bridge that rather defeats the purpose of going with Sandy Bridge.  Gateway will probably cripple it with an H61 motherboard.  If you're not going to pay to do Sandy Bridge right, then just save some money and go with AMD.

    On the other hand, a Core i7 2600 is a high end processor that is too expensive to make sense for gaming purposes.  If you were building your own computer (which saves money) and had a $1500 budget, you wouldn't even consider a Core i7 2600 (or 2600K, the overclockable equivalent).  On a $2000 budget, you might consider it, but would probably decide against it.  A Core i5 2500 (or 2500K) is basically the standard gaming part, as it's nearly identical for gaming, and about $100 cheaper.

  • ITIATTITIATT Member Posts: 8

    Originally posted by caremuchless

    Originally posted by ITIATT

    Ok so im buying a new computer to run swtor and I have come up with some choices. Can you tell me how much fps these computers can run the game at.





    first computer: gateway

    intel core i5-2320 3.0 ghz

    nvdia geforce gtx 520

    6gb memory

    windows 7

    for: 649.99







    second:gateway

    intel core i7-2600 3.4ghz

    AMD HD6750 graphics

    8gb memory

    windows7

    for:899.99







    what fps can i get on these comps. I would prefer to get the cheaper one if it can run it well.



    Thanks.

    Dont get a gateway, for one.

     

    2- You wont see any different between an I7 and a I5, go with an I 5.

     

    Here is a decent deal from dell  699

    I5

    Radeon 6450 1gb vid card

    6gb ddr3 ram

    500gb hd

    36mos mcafee included

     

    and for $159  Dell Flat panel Led     = $859 full computer and kick ass monitor.

     

    Or if you are going for a tower alone

     

    You cant beat this, 1300 dollar computer down to $872

    Radeon 6870

    I 7

    8gb DDR3

    500gb HD

     

     

    I'll help you with the above builds on dell.com. Or if you are game, you could always build your own.

     

     

    alright so what do i go to dell.com and customize a computer?

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483

    Originally posted by ITIATT

     

    alright so what do i go to dell.com and customize a computer?

    No, no, no.  Dell won't offer anything remotely sensible for gaming purposes, either.  AVA Direct is the only American company that builds computers to order that I'm aware of that will give you options suitable for a budget gaming computer.

    Just give me a budget and I'll pick out parts for a sensible gaming computer for you.  Also, are you keeping your old peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, surge protector), or do you need new peripherals, too?  It is common for people to buy the case and everything that goes inside it new, while reusing their old peripherals or perhaps upgrading those at a different time (e.g., when something breaks).

  • hazyhazy Member UncommonPosts: 89

    I would stay away from Gateways and Dells. The graphics cards you're looking at the, GTX 520 and the 6750, neither of them are really for gaming, they would run TOR I think because it has low graphics requirements but I would recommend something like AMD 6850 / 6870, or Nvidia GTX 560 or 560ti, they are mid range cards and will provide better experience in games and be able to run future games better. Keep in mind though neither would be able to max out a demanding title at high resolution (ie Battlefield 3 at 1080p+).

     

    For people who don't build their own computers but want gaming machines I recommend ibuypower or similar sites. I have purchased a computer from ibuypower and I would recommend using them they are legit and use quality products. Dell and Gateway mass produce PCs and cut corners on components to lower the price which is fine to some extent but is not ideal if you can avoid it.

     

    Just my opinion .

  • ITIATTITIATT Member Posts: 8

    Originally posted by Quizzical

    Originally posted by ITIATT

     

    alright so what do i go to dell.com and customize a computer?

    No, no, no.  Dell won't offer anything remotely sensible for gaming purposes, either.  AVA Direct is the only American company that builds computers to order that I'm aware of that will give you options suitable for a budget gaming computer.

    Just give me a budget and I'll pick out parts for a sensible gaming computer for you.  Also, are you keeping your old peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, surge protector), or do you need new peripherals, too?  It is common for people to buy the case and everything that goes inside it new, while reusing their old peripherals or perhaps upgrading those at a different time (e.g., when something breaks).

    well first im in canada. so i dont know if they ship here. second my budget would be 600-650 and if it really is a big difference 700 and a bit above.

  • caremuchlesscaremuchless Member Posts: 603

    Originally posted by ITIATT

    Originally posted by caremuchless


    Originally posted by ITIATT

    Ok so im buying a new computer to run swtor and I have come up with some choices. Can you tell me how much fps these computers can run the game at.





    first computer: gateway

    intel core i5-2320 3.0 ghz

    nvdia geforce gtx 520

    6gb memory

    windows 7

    for: 649.99







    second:gateway

    intel core i7-2600 3.4ghz

    AMD HD6750 graphics

    8gb memory

    windows7

    for:899.99







    what fps can i get on these comps. I would prefer to get the cheaper one if it can run it well.



    Thanks.

    Dont get a gateway, for one.

     

    2- You wont see any different between an I7 and a I5, go with an I 5.

     

    Here is a decent deal from dell  699

    I5

    Radeon 6450 1gb vid card

    6gb ddr3 ram

    500gb hd

    36mos mcafee included

     

    and for $159  Dell Flat panel Led     = $859 full computer and kick ass monitor.

     

    Or if you are going for a tower alone

     

    You cant beat this, 1300 dollar computer down to $872

    Radeon 6870

    I 7

    8gb DDR3

    500gb HD

     

     

    I'll help you with the above builds on dell.com. Or if you are game, you could always build your own.

     

     

    alright so what do i go to dell.com and customize a computer?

    You could. Or you could man up and listen to me and quizzical and build your first computer.

     

    And Im going to tell you like I tell everyone that is here. If you want to build it yourself and get the best advice, 

     

    www.maximumpc.com/forums   <---Pc Enthusiasts.   mmorpg.com <--mmo enthusiasts. Understand?

     

    So my advice, go over there, make an account, "help me buy/Help me build". Tell them your budget and what you are looking to do and there will be plenty of people willing to help you out with good advice.

     

    One other thing, building a pc is not hard. A tiny bit time consuming and a whole lot of fun, but not technically difficult.  If it was, I wouldnt be able to do it.

     

    In fact, here is a post,  1000 build or under  (actually did it for 780)

    http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=129564&p=1187111&hilit=1000#p1187111

    image

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483

    Originally posted by ITIATT

    Originally posted by Quizzical


    Originally posted by ITIATT

     

    alright so what do i go to dell.com and customize a computer?

    No, no, no.  Dell won't offer anything remotely sensible for gaming purposes, either.  AVA Direct is the only American company that builds computers to order that I'm aware of that will give you options suitable for a budget gaming computer.

    Just give me a budget and I'll pick out parts for a sensible gaming computer for you.  Also, are you keeping your old peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, surge protector), or do you need new peripherals, too?  It is common for people to buy the case and everything that goes inside it new, while reusing their old peripherals or perhaps upgrading those at a different time (e.g., when something breaks).

    well first im in canada. so i dont know if they ship here. second my budget would be 600-650 and if it really is a big difference 700 and a bit above.

    Canadian?  Well, that makes things harder.  Finding a site that will sell you good parts isn't hard, but finding one that will choose good parts and assemble them on that budget may or may not be doable.

    How are you with a screwdriver?  Are you willing to get some parts and assemble your own computer?  If you haven't done it before, it's not nearly as hard as you might think.  The case and motherboard will come with very detailed instructions, and all you have to do is to follow the directions.  That's probably going to be the only way to get a sensible hardware configuration on your budget.

  • ITIATTITIATT Member Posts: 8

    Originally posted by Quizzical

    Originally posted by ITIATT


    Originally posted by Quizzical


    Originally posted by ITIATT

     

    alright so what do i go to dell.com and customize a computer?

    No, no, no.  Dell won't offer anything remotely sensible for gaming purposes, either.  AVA Direct is the only American company that builds computers to order that I'm aware of that will give you options suitable for a budget gaming computer.

    Just give me a budget and I'll pick out parts for a sensible gaming computer for you.  Also, are you keeping your old peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, surge protector), or do you need new peripherals, too?  It is common for people to buy the case and everything that goes inside it new, while reusing their old peripherals or perhaps upgrading those at a different time (e.g., when something breaks).

    well first im in canada. so i dont know if they ship here. second my budget would be 600-650 and if it really is a big difference 700 and a bit above.

    Canadian?  Well, that makes things harder.  Finding a site that will sell you good parts isn't hard, but finding one that will choose good parts and assemble them on that budget may or may not be doable.

    How are you with a screwdriver?  Are you willing to get some parts and assemble your own computer?  If you haven't done it before, it's not nearly as hard as you might think.  The case and motherboard will come with very detailed instructions, and all you have to do is to follow the directions.  That's probably going to be the only way to get a sensible hardware configuration on your budget.

    Dang, I dont know why but I just really don't want to build my own. It just seems time consuming and frustarating.

  • eye_meye_m Member UncommonPosts: 3,317

    Originally posted by ITIATT

     

    well first im in canada. so i dont know if they ship here. second my budget would be 600-650 and if it really is a big difference 700 and a bit above.

    There is a website called NCIX.com. I think they are out of Richmond which isn't far from you. You can get custom built gaming machines from them, and their prices aren't bad. I would recommend spending a bit more if you can manage it. Quizzical can give you some ideas on parts. Look them up on NCIX after.

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

    I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

    I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483

    Originally posted by caremuchless

     

    In fact, here is a post,  1000 build or under  (actually did it for 780)

    http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=129564&p=1187111&hilit=1000#p1187111

    Wait, you're linking to a post telling someone to get a Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus piece of junk?  And it's not as a cautionary tale of the bad advice that you can sometimes find?

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483

    Originally posted by ITIATT

    Dang, I dont know why but I just really don't want to build my own. It just seems time consuming and frustarating.

    You know what's really time consuming and frustating?  Trying to squeeze a sensible build out of most OEMs.  It's like looking for a needle in a haystack, without realizing that the haystack doesn't actually contain a needle.

    I'm looking at NCIX at the moment, and it looks, well, rather less bad than most OEMs with a comparably narrow selection.  Let me see if they offer anything nice.

  • ITIATTITIATT Member Posts: 8

    how about this one: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227383

     

    or this one : http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227369

    i have heard good things about newegg aswell.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483

    The good things you've heard about New Egg are from people who buy parts to assemble a machine themselves, not from people who buy a prebuilt computer there.  They don't make their own prebuilt computers, but merely pass on computers built by other companies.  That gets you all of the same problems as a prebuilt computer from those other companies.   If you get one of the iBuyPower ones from New Egg, then they first thing you'll need to do when it arrives is to replace the power supply yourself, as the power supplies they use in their prebuilt computers are awful.

    I tell you what.  Try this:

    http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc_new/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=BC96AA33-133B-407E-914AEB930D9CE108-3829569

    The base configuration with no upgrades comes to $800 before rebates.  If you insist on a prebuilt, then you could do worse than that and probably will.  That configuration at least won't stick you with any cheap junk parts.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483

    Also, you should be aware that you could get a better system than that for about $100 cheaper if you assemble parts yourself.

  • TJixleeTJixlee Member Posts: 159

    Originally posted by ITIATT

    Ok so im buying a new computer to run swtor and I have come up with some choices. Can you tell me how much fps these computers can run the game at.





    first computer: gateway

    intel core i5-2320 3.0 ghz

    nvdia geforce gtx 520

    6gb memory

    windows 7

    for: 649.99







    second:gateway

    intel core i7-2600 3.4ghz

    AMD HD6750 graphics

    8gb memory

    windows7

    for:899.99







    what fps can i get on these comps. I would prefer to get the cheaper one if it can run it well.



    Thanks.

    second:gateway

    intel core i7-2600 3.4ghz

    AMD HD6750 graphics

    8gb memory

    windows7

    for:899.99

     

    but get a different vid card! lol  6970FTW or wait till 7000

    image

  • eye_meye_m Member UncommonPosts: 3,317

    I would recommend;

    ASUS P8H67-M Pro/CSM motherboard - 124.20

    Intel Core i5-2400 - 214.43

    Kingston KVR1333D3N9/2G x2 - 33.42

    Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500Gb - 97.98

    ASUS DRW-24B1ST - 27.99

    Zalman Z9 Plus - 54.99

    Win 7 64bit oem - 119.98

    Thermaltake TR2 500W - 59.99

    PNY Geforce GTX 550 Ti - 104.99

     

    total 837.97

    more then you want to spend, and you'd have to build it yourself.  I honestly would not want to get less then that.

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

    I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

    I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.

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