Hey guys I don't see the point in arguing anymore it's normal for games to have haters.
I really don't like the thread being made because it was bound to have a few swtor fans who really hate GW 2 for some odd reason and two other guys who are really a bit clueless and want to start ish, Der plays a huge factor in this, course we all like to be innocent and say we were being truthful but it's funny because if I'm correct only one guy in this thread alone actually got to play the game.
It's best to stay humble and not try to post this stuff tbh, I'm sure it'll happen, then people will of course say their two cents that they found on the street near the sewer that is really just two pennies until playing the game.
The mentality of there being mmo combat is why MMOs itself are not actually going up but it is what it is.
Take care guys and Der...
May the common sense be with you lol.
Don't play that card now considering a lot of GW2 fans love to hate on SWTOR for the oddest reasons. And no not only one guy. I also played GW2 demo, the very first one that came out. You assume too much.
Oh yea I know that for sure I didn't say GW2 fans don't hate on SWTOR for odd reasons as well.
I'm glade you plaued the 09 demo, I played the 2011 demo there is a huge difference.
It isn't like most games were for example they are the exact same the next year, you played the very first demo which is leagues different than the latest one.
So calm that shitt that down.
What's really crazy is I knew you'd respond because you are one of those SWTOR fanboys lol, stop taking stuff personal and relax and keep playing SWTOR, I doubt it's going to fail like people claim it will.
Ahh i see it bothered you that much but i had to point out double standards whenever i see one.
You even returned to edit your post to add that 'fanboy' bit. Good for you. I am a fan of MMORPG genre though not a particular MMO. But even if i am a fanboy of SWTOR whats wrong with that? you too are a GW2 fanboy.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi
Hey guys I don't see the point in arguing anymore it's normal for games to have haters.
I really don't like the thread being made because it was bound to have a few swtor fans who really hate GW 2 for some odd reason and two other guys who are really a bit clueless and want to start ish, Der plays a huge factor in this, course we all like to be innocent and say we were being truthful but it's funny because if I'm correct only one guy in this thread alone actually got to play the game.
It's best to stay humble and not try to post this stuff tbh, I'm sure it'll happen, then people will of course say their two cents that they found on the street near the sewer that is really just two pennies until playing the game.
The mentality of there being mmo combat is why MMOs itself are not actually going up but it is what it is.
Take care guys and Der...
May the common sense be with you lol.
Don't play that card now considering a lot of GW2 fans love to hate on SWTOR for the oddest reasons. And no not only one guy. I also played GW2 demo, the very first one that came out. You assume too much.
Oh yea I know that for sure I didn't say GW2 fans don't hate on SWTOR for odd reasons as well.
I'm glade you plaued the 09 demo, I played the 2011 demo there is a huge difference.
It isn't like most games were for example they are the exact same the next year, you played the very first demo which is leagues different than the latest one.
So calm that shitt that down.
What's really crazy is I knew you'd respond because you are one of those SWTOR fanboys lol, stop taking stuff personal and relax and keep playing SWTOR, I doubt it's going to fail like people claim it will.
Ahh i see it bothered you that much but i had to point out double standards whenever i see one.
You even returned to edit your post to add that 'fanboy' bit. Good for you. I am a fan of MMORPG genre though not a particular MMO. But even if i am a fanboy of SWTOR whats wrong with that? you too are a GW2 fanboy.
Read my history please I already said that lol.
And do what you must do Shivam unlike you I take notice to posts, I don't stalk but I do observe as I go through threads, why do you think I called you a SWTOR fan?
You thought I am try to act as if I'm not a GW 2 fan or something?
I don't have issues with admitting things, and stating I'm wrong lol.
What's crazy lol is you said your a fan of the genre yet not an particular MMO then said "even if I'm an fanboy what's wrong with that?"
Lol I swear but I'm done going back and forth you may get the last word if you deem it so, do some research on me or GW2 w/e you need to make you feel better bro lol.
May the common sense be with you.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
I'm with the haters on this one, nothing short of a fully functioning Holodeck will ever deserve a 10. That said, just from the demos I've played, GW2 is easily better than everything out at the moment. Whether it will be better than everything coming out in the near future remains to be seen, but it definitely deserves a high mark. Just not a perfect. I'd give it a 9...9.5 if they add Dervish.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
GW2 is in it's Alpha state right now. Sure it's got great ideas, but until people can sink some time into at least the tail end of a Beta state, it's foolish to go running around saying this can be a 10/10.
GW2 is in it's Alpha state right now. Sure it's got great ideas, but until people can sink some time into at least the tail end of a Beta state, it's foolish to go running around saying this can be a 10/10.
The article was about 5 games that could potentially be a 10 that releases this year, Diablo 3 was another one.
And GW2 is in beta and have been so since 18 decemeber.
And do what you must do Shivam unlike you I take notice to posts, I don't stalk but I do observe as I go through threads, why do you think I called you a SWTOR fan?
You thought I am try to act as if I'm not a GW 2 fan or something?
I don't have issues with admitting things, and stating I'm wrong lol.
What's crazy lol is you said your a fan of the genre yet not an particular MMO then said "even if I'm an fanboy what's wrong with that?"
Lol I swear but I'm done going back and forth you may get the last word if you deem it so, do some research on me or GW2 w/e you need to make you feel better bro lol.
May the common sense be with you.
I don't do research on every poster because as you can see i don't even post that much to begin with. i enjoy playing more than posting on forums. But like i said double standards is a norm on these forums and i have this habit to point it out, i get a very bad itch if i don't do that
And yes i am fan of MMORPG genre but since you made effort to come back and edit the psot just to call me a fanboy, i ahd to ask if there is something wrong with it? since you are a GW2 fanboy, i am sure you certainly don't feel bad about it now do you?
This discussion wouldn't even have started if you didn't bring SWTOR and fans into the topic which was completely irrelevant to what OPw as saying. So i suggest practise what you preach.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi
I'm with the haters on this one, nothing short of a fully functioning Holodeck will ever deserve a 10. That said, just from the demos I've played, GW2 is easily better than everything out at the moment. Whether it will be better than everything coming out in the near future remains to be seen, but it definitely deserves a high mark. Just not a perfect. I'd give it a 9...9.5 if they add Dervish.
I dunno about you or anyone else, but I rate a game on what's in it, not what I want to be in it. Dervishes wouldn't even be an extra .5 for me, they never impressed me. However, like I did with SWTOR, I rate games on what they offer, not what they could or should offer, otherwise I wouldn't have rated it a 7.5. Maybe a 4.5.
Anyone who believes in a perfect 10/10 is just... I will be warned for this.
Think for yourselves: What can you think of in a perfect MMO?
Realistically, there's no such thing as a perfect game. The only score that really matters, when you play a game, is the one that you give it...not some speculator, no matter how objective they may be. I don't expect GW2 to be perfect and that's fine.
I'm with the haters on this one, nothing short of a fully functioning Holodeck will ever deserve a 10. That said, just from the demos I've played, GW2 is easily better than everything out at the moment. Whether it will be better than everything coming out in the near future remains to be seen, but it definitely deserves a high mark. Just not a perfect. I'd give it a 9...9.5 if they add Dervish.
Haha I don't even know what Dervish is but yea I feel the same.
I tried TSW but it wasn't in a state to were I'd judge it was [fun] and very refreshing as an MMO though.
I'm skeptical on AA, I want to try it out, because videos least ones for the starting areas aren't helping.
Though from the looks atleast for [me] those seem to have some good ideas and PB&J style innovation lol.
I swear someone brought it up as an example on one of the threads created in this foru ever since then it made sense about PB&J innovation.
You take peanut butter add jelly put it in between bread, bam innovation lol. I could be wrong but eh well.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Well, the first thing is that I agree with Meowhead. The writer of this article doesn't really get the game, imo. It's like they're describing the game after having the game described to them by someone else or something.
But in general, the idea of the game being a 10, we don't know until we have it in our hands. That's obvious. I think back to Warhammer PQs and their not being scalable. That's the kind of flaw that the developers should have realized, but that players aren't going to realize until they have it in their hands. Obviously, DEs won't have that particular problem, but the point is that even though we don't see red flags, we should be skeptical and only cautiously optimistic.
One thing I always say about GW2 is that it's the product of a vision. It's not just a collection of random features, but that ArenaNet has goals and all their design choices come together to achieve them. Making MMOs more social, making combat more active, giving each character a story, eliminating mandatory grind, these are only some of the goals. So to me, if someone has a critique, like GW2 having no raids, you can't just look at raiding by itself. You have to look at how it impacts the whole game and what they're trying to do. It's not like they just forgot about raiding, they made a decision not to include it.
If we were to analyze the features of GW2 individually, then it would probably fall short of 10s in some areas. Like the cinematic conversations. They're good and they're getting better as they're being redone, but when people are complaining that SWTOR's conversations could have used more camera angles and people not just standing talking face to face but actually doing something, then it's pretty clear that our standard for what should be a 10 is pretty high in that area.
That being said, given the state of the genre and the generally high scores that games receive, it seems almost a shame to not give it a 10/10 if it lives up to expectations. This is a genre which has been pretty stagnant for the past 7 years. The WARs and AoCs which followed WoW pretty much failed and its been only in 2011 that we're seeing games that are at least polished, but still closely related to WoW in mechanics. To see a game to come out at this time in MMO history which not only has tons of innovative features, but a truly different design philosophy, and then to add incredible amounts of polish, a reportedly "massive" amount of content, and then to make it B2P? What are we reserving a 10 for if not something like this?
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it."-Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
Wish people would stop hyping every damn up. Wait till you can access the beta or even better the release candidate and then decide. Right now nobody (despite AA and some inhouse testers) knows, how much content they are going to offer.
Dynamic events are like Rifts 2.0 just the next level they won't for sure be enough to keep people entertained for month, so if they only have dynamic events and some short instanced "group" dungeons this will clearly not be enough.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Great lets overhype this game now, i guess nobody ever learns lol.
Sadly also the media doesn't help they always jump on the next hype train. Can't even imagine what will happen if Blizzard announces their next Lobby-Online-Game with facebook requirement
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Yep UI is terrible, they have to make it size and scaleable also options to turn off the annoying tooltips and ingame tipps such as "press button X".
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Yep UI is terrible, they have to make it size and scaleable also options to turn off the annoying tooltips and ingame tipps such as "press button X".
Your joking right. You've played GW1 right? They had all this stuff. I actually have tooltips turned off in mine right now. And what game have you played where you can't turn off the "new player tips"? Yeah I havnt played any either.
And if you people have problems with the UI then can you state what your issues are other than things that arent issues like the guy I quoted here.
Yep UI is terrible, they have to make it size and scaleable also options to turn off the annoying tooltips and ingame tipps such as "press button X".
Your joking right. You've played GW1 right? They had all this stuff. I actually have tooltips turned off in mine right now. And what game have you played where you can't turn off the "new player tips"? Yeah I havnt played any either.
And if you people have problems with the UI then can you state what your issues are other than things that arent issues like the guy I quoted here.
Wow, such a fanboy.
I just stat in my opinion that the ui was ugly nothing more. But i hope i can change everything on it if want to, the healtbar for exampel.
Yep UI is terrible, they have to make it size and scaleable also options to turn off the annoying tooltips and ingame tipps such as "press button X".
Your joking right. You've played GW1 right? They had all this stuff. I actually have tooltips turned off in mine right now. And what game have you played where you can't turn off the "new player tips"? Yeah I havnt played any either.
And if you people have problems with the UI then can you state what your issues are other than things that arent issues like the guy I quoted here.
Wow, such a fanboy.
I just stat in my opinion that the ui was ugly nothing more. But i hope i can change everything on it if want to, the healtbar for exampel.
STill gonna try it out
I'm a fanboy of people being more specific when they are saying things like you and the other poster did. If your problem is with the hotbar then how hard is it to say exactly what you feel is wrong with the health bar instead of just saying "it sucks." If all your going to say is "it sucks" then why even post, your not adding anything to the discussion.
Like I'll say I dont like the skill bar because it seems a little bland. I do like the flame effect behind the left side of it, but other than that it seems boring. But from what Ive seen of things like the character, invintory, and loot panes it all looks very nice.
First and foremost I prefer simplistic minimalistic looking UI's this one - to me - is overloaded. Having said that:
Look at the top left corner the mail, GM and whatever buttons are there could be moved into one menu, opens up when you click on it to save free space.
Health circle is way to big using another good portion of free space. Why not just having a health bar?
Minimap in the bottom right? Really top right would be the better option, thats why I said hope its moveable.
Enememy Window having all the information the mob will do i.e. " teleports - fears - steals health" I mean, wtf this should be the information you are finding out while fighting the mob not BEFORE the fight. By telling people everything the mob does you are taking away all the surprising abilities and fun of learning how to defeat intelligent AI.
Buffs/Debuffs prefer having them top right corner before the minimap.
Sure thats all personal but thats the kind of UI I'm trying to build in every MMOG I'm playing the one shown in the video has too much options and also offers things players shouldn't know before attacking a mob.
Does this now qualify as a detailed explanation why I don't like the UI?
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
First and foremost I prefer simplistic minimalistic looking UI's this one - to me - is overloaded. Having said that:
Look at the top left corner the mail, GM and whatever buttons are there could be moved into one menu, opens up when you click on it to save free space.
Health circle is way to big using another good portion of free space. Why not just having a health bar?
Minimap in the bottom right? Really top right would be the better option, thats why I said hope its moveable.
Enememy Window having all the information the mob will do i.e. " teleports - fears - steals health" I mean, wtf this should be the information you are finding out while fighting the mob not BEFORE the fight. By telling people everything the mob does you are taking away all the surprising abilities and fun of learning how to defeat intelligent AI.
Buffs/Debuffs prefer having them top right corner before the minimap.
Sure thats all personal but thats the kind of UI I'm trying to build in every MMOG I'm playing the one shown in the video has too much options and also offers things players shouldn't know before attacking a mob.
Does this now qualify as a detailed explanation why I don't like the UI?
Wait, isn't this article about the possibilty of GW2 being a very good game, like D3 and others? Read the article again, if you missed it. Anyway, whether a game is rated 8, 9 or 10 doesn't mean much. Everything above 8 (including 8) is a good game.
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Ahh i see it bothered you that much but i had to point out double standards whenever i see one.
You even returned to edit your post to add that 'fanboy' bit. Good for you. I am a fan of MMORPG genre though not a particular MMO. But even if i am a fanboy of SWTOR whats wrong with that? you too are a GW2 fanboy.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi
Read my history please I already said that lol.
And do what you must do Shivam unlike you I take notice to posts, I don't stalk but I do observe as I go through threads, why do you think I called you a SWTOR fan?
You thought I am try to act as if I'm not a GW 2 fan or something?
I don't have issues with admitting things, and stating I'm wrong lol.
What's crazy lol is you said your a fan of the genre yet not an particular MMO then said "even if I'm an fanboy what's wrong with that?"
Lol I swear but I'm done going back and forth you may get the last word if you deem it so, do some research on me or GW2 w/e you need to make you feel better bro lol.
May the common sense be with you.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
I'm with the haters on this one, nothing short of a fully functioning Holodeck will ever deserve a 10. That said, just from the demos I've played, GW2 is easily better than everything out at the moment. Whether it will be better than everything coming out in the near future remains to be seen, but it definitely deserves a high mark. Just not a perfect. I'd give it a 9...9.5 if they add Dervish.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
This is just a poor article really.
GW2 is in it's Alpha state right now. Sure it's got great ideas, but until people can sink some time into at least the tail end of a Beta state, it's foolish to go running around saying this can be a 10/10.
The article was about 5 games that could potentially be a 10 that releases this year, Diablo 3 was another one.
And GW2 is in beta and have been so since 18 decemeber.
Agree 100%. Gaming use to be about having fun and hooking up with you clan, or guild mates, and now its blown into all this trendy bullcrap.
I don't do research on every poster because as you can see i don't even post that much to begin with. i enjoy playing more than posting on forums. But like i said double standards is a norm on these forums and i have this habit to point it out, i get a very bad itch if i don't do that
And yes i am fan of MMORPG genre but since you made effort to come back and edit the psot just to call me a fanboy, i ahd to ask if there is something wrong with it? since you are a GW2 fanboy, i am sure you certainly don't feel bad about it now do you?
This discussion wouldn't even have started if you didn't bring SWTOR and fans into the topic which was completely irrelevant to what OPw as saying. So i suggest practise what you preach.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi
I dunno about you or anyone else, but I rate a game on what's in it, not what I want to be in it. Dervishes wouldn't even be an extra .5 for me, they never impressed me. However, like I did with SWTOR, I rate games on what they offer, not what they could or should offer, otherwise I wouldn't have rated it a 7.5. Maybe a 4.5.
Also, I'm jealous that you got to try GW2. lol
Realistically, there's no such thing as a perfect game. The only score that really matters, when you play a game, is the one that you give it...not some speculator, no matter how objective they may be. I don't expect GW2 to be perfect and that's fine.
Haha I don't even know what Dervish is but yea I feel the same.
I tried TSW but it wasn't in a state to were I'd judge it was [fun] and very refreshing as an MMO though.
I'm skeptical on AA, I want to try it out, because videos least ones for the starting areas aren't helping.
Though from the looks atleast for [me] those seem to have some good ideas and PB&J style innovation lol.
I swear someone brought it up as an example on one of the threads created in this foru ever since then it made sense about PB&J innovation.
You take peanut butter add jelly put it in between bread, bam innovation lol. I could be wrong but eh well.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Well, the first thing is that I agree with Meowhead. The writer of this article doesn't really get the game, imo. It's like they're describing the game after having the game described to them by someone else or something.
But in general, the idea of the game being a 10, we don't know until we have it in our hands. That's obvious. I think back to Warhammer PQs and their not being scalable. That's the kind of flaw that the developers should have realized, but that players aren't going to realize until they have it in their hands. Obviously, DEs won't have that particular problem, but the point is that even though we don't see red flags, we should be skeptical and only cautiously optimistic.
One thing I always say about GW2 is that it's the product of a vision. It's not just a collection of random features, but that ArenaNet has goals and all their design choices come together to achieve them. Making MMOs more social, making combat more active, giving each character a story, eliminating mandatory grind, these are only some of the goals. So to me, if someone has a critique, like GW2 having no raids, you can't just look at raiding by itself. You have to look at how it impacts the whole game and what they're trying to do. It's not like they just forgot about raiding, they made a decision not to include it.
If we were to analyze the features of GW2 individually, then it would probably fall short of 10s in some areas. Like the cinematic conversations. They're good and they're getting better as they're being redone, but when people are complaining that SWTOR's conversations could have used more camera angles and people not just standing talking face to face but actually doing something, then it's pretty clear that our standard for what should be a 10 is pretty high in that area.
That being said, given the state of the genre and the generally high scores that games receive, it seems almost a shame to not give it a 10/10 if it lives up to expectations. This is a genre which has been pretty stagnant for the past 7 years. The WARs and AoCs which followed WoW pretty much failed and its been only in 2011 that we're seeing games that are at least polished, but still closely related to WoW in mechanics. To see a game to come out at this time in MMO history which not only has tons of innovative features, but a truly different design philosophy, and then to add incredible amounts of polish, a reportedly "massive" amount of content, and then to make it B2P? What are we reserving a 10 for if not something like this?
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
Wish people would stop hyping every damn up. Wait till you can access the beta or even better the release candidate and then decide. Right now nobody (despite AA and some inhouse testers) knows, how much content they are going to offer.
Dynamic events are like Rifts 2.0 just the next level they won't for sure be enough to keep people entertained for month, so if they only have dynamic events and some short instanced "group" dungeons this will clearly not be enough.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Great lets overhype this game now, i guess nobody ever learns lol.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Im going to try it out since it's b2p. So its free
kinda
Still loveing swtor, so i can play it as a backup.
Sadly also the media doesn't help they always jump on the next hype train. Can't even imagine what will happen if Blizzard announces their next Lobby-Online-Game with facebook requirement
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatiginlO-E&list=UUKa6jhBff1VqM04h9fd8PSw&index=14&feature=plcp
The story and the dynamic event looked cool, but the damn ui is REALLY REALLY ugly!!!
Eh, matter of opinion. I love the new UI.
Yep UI is terrible, they have to make it size and scaleable also options to turn off the annoying tooltips and ingame tipps such as "press button X".
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Your joking right. You've played GW1 right? They had all this stuff. I actually have tooltips turned off in mine right now. And what game have you played where you can't turn off the "new player tips"? Yeah I havnt played any either.
And if you people have problems with the UI then can you state what your issues are other than things that arent issues like the guy I quoted here.
Wow, such a fanboy.
I just stat in my opinion that the ui was ugly nothing more. But i hope i can change everything on it if want to, the healtbar for exampel.
STill gonna try it out
I'm a fanboy of people being more specific when they are saying things like you and the other poster did. If your problem is with the hotbar then how hard is it to say exactly what you feel is wrong with the health bar instead of just saying "it sucks." If all your going to say is "it sucks" then why even post, your not adding anything to the discussion.
Like I'll say I dont like the skill bar because it seems a little bland. I do like the flame effect behind the left side of it, but other than that it seems boring. But from what Ive seen of things like the character, invintory, and loot panes it all looks very nice.
"Hey how was that movie you went and saw?"
"sucked dont see it"
"Can you be specific?"
"Nah, just sucked"
Ok lets try it again
First and foremost I prefer simplistic minimalistic looking UI's this one - to me - is overloaded. Having said that:
Look at the top left corner the mail, GM and whatever buttons are there could be moved into one menu, opens up when you click on it to save free space.
Health circle is way to big using another good portion of free space. Why not just having a health bar?
Minimap in the bottom right? Really top right would be the better option, thats why I said hope its moveable.
Enememy Window having all the information the mob will do i.e. " teleports - fears - steals health" I mean, wtf this should be the information you are finding out while fighting the mob not BEFORE the fight. By telling people everything the mob does you are taking away all the surprising abilities and fun of learning how to defeat intelligent AI.
Buffs/Debuffs prefer having them top right corner before the minimap.
Sure thats all personal but thats the kind of UI I'm trying to build in every MMOG I'm playing the one shown in the video has too much options and also offers things players shouldn't know before attacking a mob.
Does this now qualify as a detailed explanation why I don't like the UI?
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Like he said
And i dont really have to defend my self saying that the LOOKS of the ui isnt really me.
Wait, isn't this article about the possibilty of GW2 being a very good game, like D3 and others? Read the article again, if you missed it. Anyway, whether a game is rated 8, 9 or 10 doesn't mean much. Everything above 8 (including 8) is a good game.