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new rig....need thoughts/concerns plz!
this is my 1st rig im building and i need thoughts and opinions. plan to run things like gw2/dota2/swtor on high settings
i was wondering how was the gpu/motherboard i seleted is.....i dont need the best of the best but i want a good rig that'll run good on high settings for 3-4 years
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155
[CrossFireX] Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard LucidLogix Virtu and Intel Smart Response Technology & 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID,2 3 PCIe Gen2, 2 PCIe X1 & 2 3CI
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card
850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kingston HyperX
thank you and have a good day everyone!
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What's your budget, where are you buying, and what else is in the rig?
What you have listed will run the games u listed on high, processor is not a big concern for gamers, your graphics card is. Even a low end 1Gb graphics card will run those games on high. You power supply is certainly large enough and your memory is sufficient. Not bad for a first rig.
ok everything looks fine at first glance but let me give you pointers
you will need a proc that can do HT
most will say no but they are wrong,lets say in a year g+hangout is your new chatroom for your buddy (10 people on the same screen ?hell now a second screen make sense
sadly in this idea there is a flaw,i5 2500k doesnt have ht,some will say but this was tested and 2500k & 2600k are almost =and they are right to a point:
in some situation tho,if you are like the emerginf majority ,in a year you will want to play swtor,stream it to the comunity,encode your success to upload it at 1080p24 on youtube all this while being with your friend on g+hangout shinny 10 view and of caurse your favorite back ground noise,the game itself doesnt take lot of power but almost everything related to multimedia will benefit from ht
and here is where ht shine,if you disable core parking and HYPERTHREADING IS ON ,you will outperform a 2500k by 40 %
in ht
some people dismiss this but trust me ht will be required in your futur you just dont know it yet ,so get the 2600k and be done for years .sorry for long post but a lot of people i know have the 2600k and they compare it to a 2500k and they re like wtf it is the same!i ask did you disable core parking,is ht enabled?heu i dont know?then core parking is enabled and sadly coreparking and ht tend to ignore each other!wich make you lose 40% in media stuff , i cant name what make use of ht but a lot of it do.
40% more power for media stuff doesnt sound like a lot but it is often the difference between smooth gaming and lower cpu % use and a processor that would need 2 cpu to do the job!aside from this!everything looks fine
If you just wanna play the game on high graphics, your processor wont matter much, your graphics card will. Although a better CPU never hurts for other things.
*addition
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Adjustable HDD Cage
Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans
Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive
that is all for what is in it..
budget is max of 1400
i am buying it from cyber power pc
i know newegg is cheaper but i dont want to assemble it myself
do u you think i need to upgrade the gpu?
Please ignore drbaltazar and Fuggly. It's quite clear they both went full retard.
for gpu take the highest (or almost )single slot single card gpu(5990 is a single slot dual gpu,5770 is a single slot single gpu)also make sure your gpu is at least 256 bit data path wide,a 5770 isnt 256 bit it is 128 bit datapath wide
at the top end of single card single gpu most will be fairly close to each other (ok maybe the new 7970 is better not sure but things evolve too often i would stick to 2011 card.price wise and shop around same card might be 100$ more on x site then on xxx dsite (an exemple)
google is your friend men dont take my word for it google said info i wrote,very easy to confirm
http://www.overclock.net/t/1172389/winrar-performance-on-sandy-bridge-with-core-parking-disabled
here just in case you didnt find one of the numerous and various test involving this!
Assuming you're not going to overclock the processor very far and don't need new peripherals, try this:
Case: NZXT Black Tempest 210 Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Laser Engraving: None
Laser Engraving Message:
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
Cooling Fan: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo Gaming Cooling Fan [+4]
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: * [CrossFireX] Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard LucidLogix Virtu and Intel Smart Response Technology & 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID,2 3 PCIe Gen2, 2 PCIe X1 & 2 3CI (All Venom OC Certified)
Intel Smart Response Technology for Z68: None
Memory: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [+307] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
Freebies: None
Video Card 2: None
Video Card 3: None
Power Supply Upgrade: * 650 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+77]
Hard Drive: 120 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 500MB/s Write [+59] (Single Drive)
Data Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+110] (Single Drive)
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Network Switch: None
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Mouse Pad: None
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None [-3]
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Port: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS
That comes to $1367 from their Z68 configurator.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Z68_Configurator/
Do note that you're probably paying around $200 more than it would cost to build something comparable yourself.
They say you need a 700 W power supply for that system, but that's ridiculous. A good quality 650 W power supply is already overkill for a system that will never pull 400 W from it. The 700 W requirement is in case you want to buy a 700 W power supply from them that will fry if you tried to pull 500 W from it. But a Corsair TX V2 series power supply is pretty good.
My bad brah, didnt realize these forums were full of self entitled, mealy mouthed little faggots like you. I will let the "expert" take over. Guess meh 17 years of buildin pc's is no match for the experience of a forum warrior....................wtf was i thinkin?!? guess meh good ol am64cpu with 4Gb of ram isnt runnin GW on high graphics.................oh wait it isnt, its meh 1Gb graphics card............or is it...........Mr. Forum Warrior you has meh head hurtin..........................NOT
in b4 bannn wooot!
copied b4 ban wooot!
If you care about fast OS/game/zone loading times I'd recommend going with an SSD rather than an HDD. Personally, I'd recommend the Samsung 830 SSD. Extremely fast and stable. Stay away from the OCZ Vertex 3 as they're notorious for causing BSODs. Cheers and g/l!
SSD's are also extremely expensive for very little storage. If you have money to blow, go for it, they are very fast and very reliable as they have no mechanical moving parts. Good luck on the build brotha!
Processor dependence varies wildly from one game to the next. A processor bottleneck is particularly nasty, as if a processor won't let you run a game on high settings, then it probably won't let you run it on low settings, either. Video card bottlenecks can often be worked around by lowering settings.
A low end 1 GB card will not run many games on high settings. The GPU matters, too.
"you will need a proc that can do HT"
When there's a processor bottleneck, it's usually in part because a game doesn't scale well to that many processor cores. Adding hyperthreading won't help a bit if it already can't use as many real, physical cores as you have.
"and here is where ht shine,if you disable core parking and HYPERTHREADING IS ON ,you will outperform a 2500k by 40 %"
Only in programs that will scale very well to at least eight cores, and even then, it usually won't be as big as 40%. No games will see that big of a gap.
"5990 is a single slot dual gpu,5770 is a single slot single gpu"
There is no 5990. The 5770 is discontinued (or rather, rebranded as 6770), but even before that, most of them used dual slot coolers.
"Guess meh 17 years of buildin pc's is no match for the experience of a forum warrior."
Most people who pick parts don't know what they're doing very well, and repetition doesn't necessarily teach them. Or you.
"guess meh good ol am64cpu with 4Gb of ram isnt runnin GW on high graphics."
You know what else runs Guild Wars on max settings? My netbook. It's not a demanding game.
I actually read this link. And a few others pertaining to core parking
You know what is funny about it? They could only reproduce the problem in WinRaR.
Most people don't RAR and un-RAR files for fun.
I haven't seen a single case of a video game being affected by it with before/after numbers to prove it. I've seen a few posts where people say "Yeah, I disabled it, and it works great" - which may or may not be circumstantial, but no legitimate reviewer comes out and says it's a problem.
Now maybe I just didn't poke around hard enough, but I don't see any reason why a gaming machine needs HT in the first place, let alone needs to get it and then disable core parking.