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What the heck, I can't enjoy other games after TERA.

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  • eddieg50eddieg50 Member UncommonPosts: 1,809

    Originally posted by WizGamer

    I don't get it at all.

    Tera doesn't have the most awesome featurelist out of MMOs coming out, but after playing four CBT events, nothing else seems to compare.

    I recently tried RaiderZ and Dragon Nest (both frequently mentioned F2P comparisons), along with Path of Exile, and another mmo (in CBT with NDA). But I can't stand playing these games more than an hour before they bore me to tears. I can't seem to capture the same excitement I had playing TERA or same awe when looking around the world. I can't even imagine playing SWTOR anymore. The combat is just so lackluster, and I don't feel like I'm constantly fighting for my life. I can't describe the feeling I had when I took down my first basilisk and barely backstepped out of the way as he charged me. It was crazy exciting. Fun is an understatement. 

    Now,  I'm wary that TERA may be ONLY combat, which sucks because eventually I do get tired of playing. After several hours, my hands feel worn and I feel drained. But then if I play any other MMORPGs, they just aren't satisfying viscerally. It's an awkward place to be. I hope they add more to the crafting system and add some fluff features like fishing etc.

     

    BTW: This is not an April Fools Troll.

      i AGREE,     except with me it was SWTOR, after playing a game wih a great story, plot, voice overs, cut scenes, companions who craft for you, great sound and lightlning shooting from my finger tips-it is so hard to play games like Tera where your excitement comes from shooting monsters with giant butts (personally I like shapely, butts myself)

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Originally posted by eddieg50

    No matter how you slice it, Terra is a boring, grindy, pointless game designed for the lowest common denominator. It happens that there are quite a few people who belong to that group.

     Agreed Shadowbane was an excellent and unique game

    Its TERA, one R, TERRA is a different game.

    Seriously go check out the game list.

    Shadowbane was terrible, I'm sorry, I played its beta, I even won a box copy back in the day, could NOT get into it, UO and EQ blew it away, and they came out before.

     

  • eddieg50eddieg50 Member UncommonPosts: 1,809

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by eddieg50

    No matter how you slice it, Terra is a boring, grindy, pointless game designed for the lowest common denominator. It happens that there are quite a few people who belong to that group.

     Agreed Shadowbane was an excellent and unique game

    Its TERA, one R, TERRA is a different game.

    Seriously go check out the game list.

    Shadowbane was terrible, I'm sorry, I played its beta, I even won a box copy back in the day, could NOT get into it, UO and EQ blew it away, and they came out before.

     

    Never be sorry for being wrong

  • MehveMehve Member Posts: 487

    I don't think the existence of a honeymoon period is up for debate. But just like the real thing, things don't automatically get worse or destroyed afterwards. The glamour gets rubbed off, but you can also discover new things as time goes on. Potentially, anyway. But for anyone who cares about this game, it's pretty easy to find a laundry-list of faults for it - you shouldn't be getting surprised by too much. It's certainly not reinventing anything, but it's sticking a few things together in a way that makes a surprising amount of difference.

    And to acknowledge the OP, while Vindictus probably takes most of the blame, this game IS cementing my own convinction that I'll never play another tab-target game again. And if I want to dodge, dammit I'll do it myself. No need to roll dice for me. Mind you, it's also reminded me of what I really liked about the crafting and quest systems in some other games, by virtue of their absence here.

    A Modest Proposal for MMORPGs:
    That the means of progression would not be mutually exclusive from the means of enjoyment.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Originally posted by eddieg50

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      i AGREE,     except with me it was SWTOR, after playing a game wih a great story, plot, voice overs, cut scenes, companions who craft for you, great sound and lightlning shooting from my finger tips-it is so hard to play games like Tera where your excitement comes from shooting monsters with giant butts (personally I like shapely, butts myself)

    Well, I played Skyrim, but I don't come to the Tera forums to brag about it.

  • eddieg50eddieg50 Member UncommonPosts: 1,809

    Originally posted by Xasapis

    Originally posted by eddieg50

    ...

      i AGREE,     except with me it was SWTOR, after playing a game wih a great story, plot, voice overs, cut scenes, companions who craft for you, great sound and lightlning shooting from my finger tips-it is so hard to play games like Tera where your excitement comes from shooting monsters with giant butts (personally I like shapely, butts myself)

    Well, I played Skyrim, but I don't come to the Tera forums to brag about it.

       Skyrim is not an mmorpg and prob would not fit in, swtor is and thus deserves being discussed on this forum. If someone who plays Tera has something they could relate to swtor  I invite them to discuss it  on the swtor forums

  • ElminzterElminzter Member UncommonPosts: 285

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Shadowbane was terrible, I'm sorry, I played its beta, I even won a box copy back in the day, could NOT get into it, UO and EQ blew it away, and they came out before.

     

    sb isnt the same as uo and eq, its GvG and u need a solid guild to have fun, there arent any at the moment that has it's features i.e. persistent world destructable buildings and castles.

    it's problem is that there were bugs, and server stability crashes during large sieges.

    just saying.....

  • daltaniousdaltanious Member UncommonPosts: 2,381

    Originally posted by rexzshadow

    Originally posted by daltanious

    Whenever I see targeting recticle ... my interest in game is completely over. Period. Forget this is how "real man" play as real mans do not play games.

    Otherwise maybe would try some day, at first glance game looks good.

    But to be honest I have lost my eternal search for new  good games after have discovered 3rd great game, swtor. With Rift, Wow and Swtor for the first time in my life I do not feel any urge or real wish to try something new. Guess will be happy with this trio for at least decade, alterning gameplay and waiting new expansions to level all my alts.

    Thats about the most awakward reason i see anyone dislike Tera over, guess you hit most FPS too.

    You got the point. :-) This is exactly what I wanted to say. I dislike in general FPS a lot. :-) So is not problem of Tera, maybe I would enjoy a lot ... but I will never know. :-)

  • daltaniousdaltanious Member UncommonPosts: 2,381

    Originally posted by Volarin

    Originally posted by daltanious

    Whenever I see targeting recticle ... my interest in game is completely over. Period. Forget this is how "real man" play as real mans do not play games.

    Otherwise maybe would try some day, at first glance game looks good.

    But to be honest I have lost my eternal search for new  good games after have discovered 3rd great game, swtor. With Rift, Wow and Swtor for the first time in my life I do not feel any urge or real wish to try something new. Guess will be happy with this trio for at least decade, alterning gameplay and waiting new expansions to level all my alts.

    This post is the perfect example of how completely polar opposite people can be. To me Wow, Rift and Swtor are the very definition of everything that is wrong in MMO gaming. WOW has retarded the development of MMOs for years now. People seem happy with the model that WOW made sucessful.

    I will only play real combat games now. ANything else like WOW etc just feels dead. Player skill is what makes things interesting.

    Anyway I could not disagree with this posters choices more. Funny old world eh?!

     

    You see, company must decide if make happy 100.000 of players over the world (which in this case I guess would include YOU) or make happy 10 milions of players (in this case including ME). What is wrong and what is right is not fact, it is just pure decision of company. You say wow is all that is wrong in mmo, I say wow is all that is good in mmo gaming, best evolution so far. And Blizzard have decided obviusly I'm right. :-) Not all can be pleased. And there are other people that have zillion of different opinions how should mmo look, different from mine but also from yours.

    Btw do not forget, once people traveled with horses or even walking, today they use cars, trucks, ... Which travel is wrong or right? Horses, like you would still have, or trucks and cars, that pleases me? :-) 

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by daltanious

    Originally posted by rexzshadow


    Originally posted by daltanious

    Whenever I see targeting recticle ... my interest in game is completely over. Period. Forget this is how "real man" play as real mans do not play games.

    Otherwise maybe would try some day, at first glance game looks good.

    But to be honest I have lost my eternal search for new  good games after have discovered 3rd great game, swtor. With Rift, Wow and Swtor for the first time in my life I do not feel any urge or real wish to try something new. Guess will be happy with this trio for at least decade, alterning gameplay and waiting new expansions to level all my alts.

    Thats about the most awakward reason i see anyone dislike Tera over, guess you hit most FPS too.

    You got the point. :-) This is exactly what I wanted to say. I dislike in general FPS a lot. :-) So is not problem of Tera, maybe I would enjoy a lot ... but I will never know. :-)

    I hate fps too, well i hate consol fps computer i have no problem. well obt is free i mean if you got decent internet feel free to check it out. (coz takes time to dl)

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by daltanious

    You see, company must decide if make happy 100.000 of players over the world (which in this case I guess would include YOU) or make happy 10 milions of players (in this case including ME). What is wrong and what is right is not fact, it is just pure decision of company. You say wow is all that is wrong in mmo, I say wow is all that is good in mmo gaming, best evolution so far. And Blizzard have decided obviusly I'm right. :-) Not all can be pleased. And there are other people that have zillion of different opinions how should mmo look, different from mine but also from yours.

    Btw do not forget, once people traveled with horses or even walking, today they use cars, trucks, ... Which travel is wrong or right? Horses, like you would still have, or trucks and cars, that pleases me? :-) 

    WoW doesn't keep all 10m happy, it keep a portation of it happy at a time, and the other portions say in hope WoW will make them  happy. Its kinda like walmart, you become so used to it even when you know its bad you still go. Nothing wrong with it but i guess to most gamer gamer or people who played older mmorpgs WoW is everything that is wrong because WoW doesn't target gamer gamer. WoW has pretty much become something like a facebook game of mmorpgs. Its there with majorty of player who are casual player that plays every now and than and want everything to be there for them. So WoW is pretty much to appeal to a majory is total easy mode. To many gamer gamer easy mode is bad, it takes away the awarding feeling of been able to do something that takes effort and other people can't do. However WoW is majorty casual gamer who don't have or don't want to spend that time or effort so the game is tailor toward them you have group of gamer who see WoW as "evil"

    Its like the Wii, many "hardcore" gamer bash the Wii for its "casual" games. I don't see it as a bad thing, i mean you have to have these "casual" games there to introduce people to gaming. So WoW is like the stepping stone to maybe other mroe diffuclt mmorpgs. Only problem is how mmorpgs works, unlike single player game you buy and play and your finish, mmorpgs suppose to last. So i guess the main issue is WoW attracts all the casual gamers but they stay casual gamers and never try out other game because most of them can only play 1 mmorpg at a time and thus it a monopoly that kills off other mmorpgs or create well all the clones.

    See wtih Wii's casual games you play it for a while and get introduced to gamming you might try something from Wii sport to mabye mario party to legend of zelda. Thus we convert none gamer to gamers. However WoW you introduct none mmorpgs player to mmorpgs, so wow is like Wii sports but thing is because it takes to much time most people never move on to the mario or zelda equilivent of mmorpgs, games that not design toward casual gamers because well WoW is eating up all their time and they stick to it. So idk lol to lot of people WoW is all thats wrong with mmorpgs because its so successful been targeting toward casual gamer most mmorpgs made are targeted toward casual gamer and we don't get the mmorpgs we want made.

  • daltaniousdaltanious Member UncommonPosts: 2,381

    Originally posted by rexzshadow

    Originally posted by daltanious



    You see, company must decide if make happy 100.000 of players over the world (which in this case I guess would include YOU) or make happy 10 milions of players (in this case including ME). What is wrong and what is right is not fact, it is just pure decision of company. You say wow is all that is wrong in mmo, I say wow is all that is good in mmo gaming, best evolution so far. And Blizzard have decided obviusly I'm right. :-) Not all can be pleased. And there are other people that have zillion of different opinions how should mmo look, different from mine but also from yours.

    Btw do not forget, once people traveled with horses or even walking, today they use cars, trucks, ... Which travel is wrong or right? Horses, like you would still have, or trucks and cars, that pleases me? :-) 

    WoW doesn't keep all 10m happy, it keep a portation of it happy at a time, and the other portions say in hope WoW

    ........

    will make them  happy. Its kinda like walmart, you become so used to it even when you know its bad you 

    thats wrong with mmorpgs because its so successful been targeting toward casual gamer most mmorpgs made are targeted toward casual gamer and we don't get the mmorpgs we want made.

    I'm not sure you got my point. Trying for last time.

    I'm from era of CMP, DOS, ... now we have GUI of Windows, Mac, .... Once computers were for hardcore geeks, now are for masses. Are computers for this reason worse? Nope.  This can be seen this way only by people not wanting to give up to their DOS.

    About "hardcore" complainers (not saying you are)... well ... I see them usually (attention, usually) as jobless people, that do not even try to get a job (i used for nearly 2 decades to work from 16 to 20 hours per day), ... or they are "eternal" students which only objective in life is to "study" and take all things on easy.

    Now back to topic and what did wow to mmo world ....

    Horses were for hardcore travelers ... but evolution brought us cars and airplanes (=wow). Are horses better and have cars destroyed travel? Nope, they made it better, faster, usable for masses. Makes this cars & co. destroyers of travel? Nope, exactly opposite. But for sure have ruined business to horse sellers. But horse travel is over. Some people just can not accept this.

    However there will be time when cars do cross line they should not ... and that models go to history. 

    When this happen company tries to repair to error, despite sometimes this error can destroy company. So far wow if still faring good. They just did mistakes with last model Cataclysm, that's all.

    But for sure no "sound" company would market today car without ac, seatbelts, airbag, .... Wow is simply FUTURE, the STANDARD of mmo world. And does not matter if horse lovers will hate it.

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by daltanious

    I'm not sure you got my point. Trying for last time.

    I'm from era of CMP, DOS, ... now we have GUI of Windows, Mac, .... Once computers were for hardcore geeks, now are for masses. Are computers for this reason worse? Nope.  This can be seen this way only by people not wanting to give up to their DOS.

    About "hardcore" complainers (not saying you are)... well ... I see them usually (attention, usually) as jobless people, that do not even try to get a job (i used for nearly 2 decades to work from 16 to 20 hours per day), ... or they are "eternal" students which only objective in life is to "study" and take all things on easy.

    Now back to topic and what did wow to mmo world ....

    Horses were for hardcore travelers ... but evolution brought us cars and airplanes (=wow). Are horses better and have cars destroyed travel? Nope, they made it better, faster, usable for masses. Makes this cars & co. destroyers of travel? Nope, exactly opposite. But for sure have ruined business to horse sellers. But horse travel is over. Some people just can not accept this.

    However there will be time when cars do cross line they should not ... and that models go to history. 

    When this happen company tries to repair to error, despite sometimes this error can destroy company. So far wow if still faring good. They just did mistakes with last model Cataclysm, that's all.

    But for sure no "sound" company would market today car without ac, seatbelts, airbag, .... Wow is simply FUTURE, the STANDARD of mmo world. And does not matter if horse lovers will hate it.

    Sorry if it was confusing, was just typing what was coming up in my head. What i means is WoW isn't bad or wrong in any ways. However problem with WoW is that because it appeals to casual gamer, and there are large number of casual gamer more company make mmorpgs toward casual player. Thus use none casual get the short end of the stick because less and less mmorpgs are made for us because well they make less money of us.

    Same arugment was made on the Wii pretty much, however problem is i can't really defend WoW as how the Wii was defended. Because single player games you play and your done and you move to the next one, so casual game is good way for none gamer to become gamers, so people try out causal games and move on to none causal. However mmorpgs doesn't work that way so thats the main issue me and other people have with WoW. Its targeted toward casual, but the casual never move on to none-casual so all the mmorpgs are trying to copy WoW and focus on casual players.

    And no WoW isn't the future, WoW is like walmart, GW 2 will be like target, and Tera and Rift is like the smaller chain stores. Lot of newer game have feature WoW has and even ones WoW don't so in term of advancement WoW isn't the more advanced.

  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136
    @Dalt
    I see what you are trying to say and I like how you apply travel but I have a slightly different opinion on what = what.

    "Horse travel" for MMORPG fans would be PnP games (Dungeons & Dragons, etc.). This is the first iteration of multi-player role playing against generated content (Dungeon Master). People still love to play PnP but it's not the majority.

    Once you get to cars you can start to compare MMOs since they are similar but changed over time.

    Buggies and Modele A's? MUDs. They were the first introduction or RPGs to computers.

    The early games (AC, UO, EQ, etc.) are the muscle cars of the era. They were new and exciting and offered you the best at what was technologically possible at the time.

    Like the gas scare making muscle cars less attractive, in order to reach a larger playerbase makers had to lessen what was required to play. To me WoW is similar to the introduction of sedans. They were more fuel efficient, easier to drive and cheaper for the masses. Are sedans bad? No, you buy whatever car you want to drive.

    Just like the reintroduction of a more efficient muscle car I think this is where we stand now. A large portion of gamers are looking for something that is not the same, to us, boring car. The technology is there to make games more like they used to be (group and community focused) while keeping the simplicity and efficiency of WoW.

    The wildcard here is that people like their sedans. They are comfortable with them and have also invested so much time in them they don't want to move. WoW to it's credit has kept it's playerbase happy all these years. The funny thing is for the sub numbers they tout they don't put half as much effort in their game as smaller entities do. I hope "Titan" is better off for it ;)

    Just not worth my time anymore.

  • zaltarzaltar Member UncommonPosts: 125

    Open world pk ?  Might have to take a look at this one  , it`s been a while since Ive seen a decent pvp centric game   I really do miss the drama involved .

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Looks like difficulty is revamped for the open beta (not the last CB event). Hopefully that would make the starter island a bit more dangerous.

    It's ok for people to die in mmoprgs vs normal mobs developers!

  • AzmodaiAzmodai Member UncommonPosts: 154

    I've Never been more Excited in a PVP clan war as much as this Before. I had a war where we fought 2 clans at the same time from 2 sides, It was amazing, Having to do everything while under that much pressure while having to aim all you skills etc really makes this game shine. This is the current best OW pvp game i would say. Its brings back the Good Old Clan wars to life without any bullshit battleground or instances in pvp. The Open World Deathmatches are really great, Being able to 10v10 Clan members for training in an Open area just outside of town is really great. ENmasses listen to the players too, we Asked them to remove some RNG and they did just that, great work to them.

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  • WagrumWagrum Member Posts: 56

    I love TERA and like you OP, I can't really like any other MMO right now. I'm playing SWTOR with friends for now, but it's sooooo boring and I'm only really there because my mates are.

     

    It's a world I just can't wait to live in; so lively, so dangerous and so gorgeous....and there's ALWAYS something to do. I really miss that in MMOs these days.

     

    I've been rambling on about the game since CBT2 to my friends and only one of them have ried it out with me. He even said "This game is amazing."

     

    It's just one of those games you really need to play to get a feel for, but Ill definitely be buying it at launch.

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by Wagrum

    I love TERA and like you OP, I can't really like any other MMO right now. I'm playing SWTOR with friends for now, but it's sooooo boring and I'm only really there because my mates are.

     

    It's a world I just can't wait to live in; so lively, so dangerous and so gorgeous....and there's ALWAYS something to do. I really miss that in MMOs these days.

     

    I've been rambling on about the game since CBT2 to my friends and only one of them have ried it out with me. He even said "This game is amazing."

     

    It's just one of those games you really need to play to get a feel for, but Ill definitely be buying it at launch.

    Why not pre-order? Pretty much the same price and you get 3 day head start, and 1 character name reservation

  • zaltarzaltar Member UncommonPosts: 125

    Originally posted by Azmodai

    I've Never been more Excited in a PVP clan war as much as this Before. I had a war where we fought 2 clans at the same time from 2 sides, It was amazing, Having to do everything while under that much pressure while having to aim all you skills etc really makes this game shine. This is the current best OW pvp game i would say. Its brings back the Good Old Clan wars to life without any bullshit battleground or instances in pvp. The Open World Deathmatches are really great, Being able to 10v10 Clan members for training in an Open area just outside of town is really great. ENmasses listen to the players too, we Asked them to remove some RNG and they did just that, great work to them.

        I watched a video of maybe around 30 or more players from 3 different clans having a battle , it  was fairly long and seemed to be quite balanced , the healer class that made the vid also had a very high survivability rate . Looks fun indeed .

  • ZyxxZyxx Member UncommonPosts: 49

    The OW-PVP is way too good thing to pass down! The pvp mechanics, reminds me of the L2 days!! I would love to try them again! :D

    Im also eager to find out, if an mmo after Tera would be the same.. :P

  • Vore_TechzVore_Techz Member Posts: 122

    I haven't played any other MMO's since the Tera beta's started. I hope this doesn't ruin them for me too. I really enjoy Tera's combat system. Hope GW2 doesn't feel shitty in compairison. I do want to enjoy other games still as well. lol

    (>^_^)> MMO Veteran <(^_^<)
    Currently Playing: Tera Online

  • WagrumWagrum Member Posts: 56

    Originally posted by rexzshadow

    Originally posted by Wagrum

    I love TERA and like you OP, I can't really like any other MMO right now. I'm playing SWTOR with friends for now, but it's sooooo boring and I'm only really there because my mates are.

     

    It's a world I just can't wait to live in; so lively, so dangerous and so gorgeous....and there's ALWAYS something to do. I really miss that in MMOs these days.

     

    I've been rambling on about the game since CBT2 to my friends and only one of them have ried it out with me. He even said "This game is amazing."

     

    It's just one of those games you really need to play to get a feel for, but Ill definitely be buying it at launch.

    Why not pre-order? Pretty much the same price and you get 3 day head start, and 1 character name reservation

    No credit card ....yet.

  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136
    @Wagram

    It you have a Gamstop close you can put 5 down to preorder. The other vendors have something similar I think. That way you don't need a credit card. Nasty things those are :)

    Just not worth my time anymore.

  • drakes821drakes821 Member UncommonPosts: 535

    Originally posted by Deron_Barak

    @Wagram



    It you have a Gamstop close you can put 5 down to preorder. The other vendors have something similar I think. That way you don't need a credit card. Nasty things those are :)

    Or pre-paid credit cards (make sure you can use them online though) work if you don't have access to a gamestop.

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