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The ultimate secret to making a solid, successful MMO. (..or 'What i've learned from mmorpg.com')

After painstaking research and polls, and countless hours reading through posts from experts and fans on here and various other MMO sites, and hearing what the community 'truley' wants... I think i've finally figured it out. 

This is what i've gathered so far.  Feel free to add what you will.  These are 'your' words,  not mine!

 

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If your game is exactly like WoW -  People will gripe and piss and moan and say it will fail.



If your game is nothing at all like WoW - People will gripe and piss and moan and say it will fail.



If your game doesn't magically get 10-12 million subscribers overnight or by the first 2-3 days of launch - It will fail.



If your game actually DOES magically get 10-12 million subscribers overnight..  its still not WoW.  It will fail.



If your game has an open world free for all pvp system - It will fail.



If your game is more focused on PvE and Duels and Battlegrounds than PvP - It will fail.



If your game has a nice mix of PvE and PvP, and everything is pretty fair and balanced - It will fail.

If your game is a sandbox - It will fail.

If your game is a themepark - It will fail.  ..and then people will talk about your game and use that post to strike up a sandbox/themepark troll thread that ends up getting locked 12 pages later.

If your game is from anywhere in or around Asia - Its probably a free to play grind that will fail.

If your game is from anywhere in or around Germany - Its probably made by Gamigo and will fail.

If your game offers lifetime subscriptions - Its going to fail.

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This is what i've learned so far from listening to the community at large.

 

Comments

  • bomber009bomber009 Member Posts: 21

    You forgot to mention that WoW is the worst thing to happen to MMOs ever.

     

    Also if you don't have epic/awesome crafting the game will fail.

     

    If you're game isn't exactly what I want (when everyone wants something different)--the game will fail.

  • corpusccorpusc Member UncommonPosts: 1,341

    wow, you really did your homework.

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  • RoyalkinRoyalkin Member UncommonPosts: 267

    Although being funny and witty, this thread actually accomplishes nothing.

  • FuryVFuryV Member UncommonPosts: 515

    Originally posted by Royalkin

    Although being funny and witty, this thread actually accomplishes nothing.

    Yeah, because every time we post we're all secretly hoping it 'accomplishes' something.  Posts don't need to accomplish shit lol.

  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,777

    Originally posted by FuryV

    Originally posted by Royalkin

    Although being funny and witty, this thread actually accomplishes nothing.

    Yeah, because every time we post we're all secretly hoping it 'accomplishes' something.  Posts don't need to accomplish shit lol.

    Yeah they do! They have to provide my life with meaning every single time I read a word!

  • FuryVFuryV Member UncommonPosts: 515

    Originally posted by Panther2103

    Originally posted by FuryV


    Originally posted by Royalkin

    Although being funny and witty, this thread actually accomplishes nothing.

    Yeah, because every time we post we're all secretly hoping it 'accomplishes' something.  Posts don't need to accomplish shit lol.

    Yeah they do! They have to provide my life with meaning every single time I read a word!

    I'd call bullshit on that if this was any other forum, but knowing what MMORPG.com is like, I don't doubt that :P

  • dbonelli80dbonelli80 Member Posts: 7

    If your game is from anywhere in or around Germany - Its probably made by Gamigo and will fail.

    If your game offers lifetime subscriptions - Its going to fail.

  • adiktusadiktus Member Posts: 128

    If your game is not innovative - it will fail

    If your game is innovative and different from what I usually play - it will fail

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  • wrightstufwrightstuf Member UncommonPosts: 659

    Originally posted by Royalkin

    Although being funny and witty, this thread actually accomplishes nothing.

    Yep, every post on MMORPG forums is well researched, lucid, to the point, and constructive

  • TacBoyTacBoy Member UncommonPosts: 142

    Originally posted by Royalkin

    Although being funny and witty, this thread actually accomplishes nothing.

    If your post doesn't accomplish anything... it will fail.

  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 5,093

    Originally posted by Royalkin

    Although being funny and witty, this thread actually accomplishes nothing.

    I prefer funny humor, not stupid, "make an idiotic assumption and wonder why it leads to idiotic conclusions", humor.

     

  • dave6660dave6660 Member UncommonPosts: 2,699

    If SOE is involved in your game - it will fail.

    “There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.”
    -- Herman Melville

  • GanatharGanathar Member Posts: 143

    If your MMO has subscription fees - People will say that it's not worth the sub and that it will fail.

    If your MMO is F2P or B2P - People will complain about the cash shop and say that it will fail.

  • Red_JuiceRed_Juice Member Posts: 20

    very funny post. I would only add:

     

    ...if your game doesn't have swimming...it will fail

  • FrostWyrmFrostWyrm Member Posts: 1,036

    If a game includes pandas...it will fail

    If a game has cute graphics, vibrant graphics, or any graphics that don't inspire suicidal emo thoughts among its community... it's made for kids and hence it will fail

    If a game has a subscription fee...it will fail

    If a game is F2P...its really P2W and it will fail

    If a game uses a new IP...its unfamiliar and will fail

    If a game uses an existing IP...its unoriginal and will fail

     


    Originally posted by Royalkin

    Although being funny and witty, this thread actually accomplishes nothing.

    It obviously accomplished entertaining you if you admit it was funny and witty.

    I'm guessing that's exactly what the OP was trying to do.

  • jybgessjybgess Member Posts: 355

    Skill system and loot like AC1, PvP like DAoC, Open world, No insta travel, No instancing, Ok to good graphics

  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    If you can't jump, it will fail

    If you can jump it'll be a faceroll dumbed down action MMO and will fail

     

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857

    Originally posted by Dirkzen

    After painstaking research and polls, and countless hours reading through posts from experts and fans on here and various other MMO sites, and hearing what the community 'truley' wants... I think i've finally figured it out. 

    This is what i've gathered so far.  Feel free to add what you will.  These are 'your' words,  not mine!

     

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    If your game is exactly like WoW -  People will gripe and piss and moan and say it will fail.



    If your game is nothing at all like WoW - People will gripe and piss and moan and say it will fail.



    If your game doesn't magically get 10-12 million subscribers overnight or by the first 2-3 days of launch - It will fail.



    If your game actually DOES magically get 10-12 million subscribers overnight..  its still not WoW.  It will fail.



    If your game has an open world free for all pvp system - It will fail.



    If your game is more focused on PvE and Duels and Battlegrounds than PvP - It will fail.



    If your game has a nice mix of PvE and PvP, and everything is pretty fair and balanced - It will fail.

    If your game is a sandbox - It will fail.

    If your game is a themepark - It will fail.  ..and then people will talk about your game and use that post to strike up a sandbox/themepark troll thread that ends up getting locked 12 pages later.

    If your game is from anywhere in or around Asia - Its probably a free to play grind that will fail.

    If your game is from anywhere in or around Germany - Its probably made by Gamigo and will fail.

    If your game offers lifetime subscriptions - Its going to fail.

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    This is what i've learned so far from listening to the community at large.

     

    Maybe re title the thread to say "The ultimate secret to making a solid, fail MMO. (..or 'What i've learned from mmorpg.com')

  • GanatharGanathar Member Posts: 143

    If an MMO has the same old quests - players will get bored and it will fail.

    If an MMO is not completely skill based - Skilled players will leave and it will fail.

    If an MMO doesn't have gear progression - Players will get bored and it will fail.

    If an MMO is really hyped - It will fail because of the big expectations.

    If an MMO is not really hyped - It will fail because it's crap. That's the reason it's not really hyped riiiiight?

    If an MMO does server merges some months after being released - It will fail.

    If an MMO doesn't do server merges - It will fail because there are not enough people on my server.

    If I don't like an MMO - It will fail because my MMO is better than yours and because all people have the same tastes, so obviously my MMO is superior.

    If an MMO is made by Funcom - It will fail because it will be bad at launch.

     

  • comrademariocomrademario Member Posts: 98

    If your game doesn't include everything that I personally want - It will fail

    If your game doesn't include something that only the hardcore 5% of mmo gamers want - It will fail

    If your game makes one mis-step, immediately apologies and fixes the situation - It will fail, they showed either a) their true colours or b) weakness

    If your game gets good reviews on this website - It probably bought those reviews, thus showing the greed that will lead them to fail

    If you game gets bad reviews on this website - It should have bought good reviews, thus showing a lack of vision that will lead them to fail

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