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Fallout New Vegas worth it?
Nitth
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I played fallout a few years ago, really enjoyed the game. Now im looking at getting new Vegas as the prices have gone down considerably, but how does it stack up against fallout 3?.
I Don't really want to fork out for a game that only has a play time of 20 hours and is basically a Fallout 3 dlc.
Thoughts?
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I started playing it again last weekend, started a new character. I never finished the first time through so cant comment on the length but so far im having a blast.
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I haven't played Fallout: New Vegas. Just gotta remember that Obsidian develped the game and not the original team. From what I've heard is that it's good but not quite the same level as Fallout 3 but I don't think the length of the game is an issue. I'm sure it's quite long.
Actually the team that made Fallout: New Vegas was the original Fallout and Fallout 2 team. The Fallout 3 project was robbed from them by Bethesda and they couldn't do the game the way they wanted to. Bethesda gave them the chance to make the game they were going to make with the promise of using their engine.
Anyway Fallout: New Vegas is pretty different from Fallout 3. First off it is far more linear and has far less quests. A one time playthrough is roughly 30 hours. If you want to 100% the game you are looking at closer to 50-60 hours. As far as balance goes I think New Vegas is more balanced than Fallout 3.
I'd recommend it as a buy. I've played through it twice and some day I might come back to play through it a third time.
If you're the kind of person (like me) that likes to do every single quest I would suggest getting the Ultimate Edition for an extra $20. It'll basically triple the life of the game
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The only thing that New Vegas doesn't win when compared to Fallot 3 is the soundtrack. New Vegas is an awesome Fallout game and it was worth the full purchase price =D The game play is MUCH longer and the seemed to fix all the problems that Fallout 3 experienced like the sudden game ending and the monotonous sewers and town. The people were also much more memorable, to me at least.
Personnally i enjoyed New Vegas more than i did Fallout 3.
Who did you hear this from? Fallout: new Vegas is better than Fallout 3. Not only is it made by the original fallout people and a bit more authetnic. It is also much more open in its story line.
The main quest in New Vegas is far superior. It can't even be called a main quest as you can do more than 3 factions interact with many ancillary factions and end each faction a different way.
Fallout 3 just had a linear main quest.
New Vegas is far more authentic to the real FAllout experience.
I bought the ultimate edition (Which comes with all expansions) so this thread interests me.
So you guys are saying new vegas has less random events/shit when wandering in the wildern?
1 thing I liked about fallout 3 was wandering searching for something to do apart of the main story.
Like one of the adventures I remember was:
I was wandering when I reached a camp with super mutants, after beating them I went dwelling inside it. Inside I found a hostage and saved it, she asks you to go save her friend which is optional but I did it anyways. Went till the bottom but found him dead. Went back to her and asked me to escort her back to a small town, when we reached the town she asked if I could teach them how to use guns because super mutants where going to come to scavenge them or something like that, so I "thought" them how to fight with guns and finally helped them defend the small town from the super mutants.
That shit is what I'm looking for in fallout new vegas, so will I expect random quests/storylines when I'm wandering outside or not?
Thanks.
dont stop exploring! there is tons out there.. yes probably less than Fallout 3 but still tons. I have always been an explorer in games.. I tend to find the quest end before I find the quest and I wasn't disappointed. I will say one thing.. SAVE YOUR GAME.. there are some real nasties out there and you may end up there before you are ready or know what you are supposed to do.
The general response has been positive so ive purchased it..
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yay! enjoy! and large radscorpions... they hit like an effing truck... >.<
Alot of things in FO:NV hit like a truck.
Also make sure your luck is good, it is vegas.
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Fallout New Vegas is probably the most underrated game I have played. I did not play Fallout 3 but I have played fallout NV plenty and I can say it has probably the best storyline I've played in an RPG.
NV literally has soo many ways you can do the main storyline and even moreso for the many plenty of side quests in the game. Its story and dialogue options are deep and immersive. Its dialogue puts to shame any elder scrolls game I've played as you can flat out open dialogue with someone and say "I don't like your face, time to die." I have not played any game that gives you the option in a dialogue sequence to pretty much do what you want.
I mean you can help a gang kill and destroy the town and doctor that saved your life, then turn around and backstab that gang. Actually you can pretty much side then backstab then double backstab any faction in the game.
You can screw any of your companions over whenever you want to however you like. You're teammates are literally at the mercy of the attitude you have when youre playing the game or the style of your roleplaying.
SURPRISINGLY its probably the only rpg game that I have found that I can ACTUALLY Roleplay in to an almost 100% satisfaction. There are literally almost no bars to the story and some of the DLCs deeply expand on the main storyline too.
I would play it again right now but i deleted off my comp a while ago to make room for some other things, and i forgot that i had a shitton of mods that took me hours to install and configure, but ima probably go around to install all of it again.
MOD the game nao! buy the expansions NAO! you will not be dissappointed.
edit: had to edit this in. You're character is basically god in that you're not bound to any plot within the game and you can do pretty much anything as you please even in the storyline.
But if you like to be realistic you character can become at the mercy of the desert if you play on hardcore mode. Its redonkulous
Yes. It is a GOOD game.
* and yeah what that guy said about mods. there are plenty of great ones.
I own Fallout 3 and did own Fallout NV. I played a few hours of Fallout NV for about a week and just quit.
Having played Fallout 3 through half a dozen times, there was something really off to me about Fallout NV. Its baffling to me because as soon as I began playing, within ten min, I felt it. Its a lot like Fallout 3 of course, but there's something about it I could never really put my finger on.
It felts somehow like a poor mans Fallout 3 to me. The world design didnt seem quite as rich. And as I played I just wasnt having the fun I had with Fallout 3. I was trying really hard. At the time I didnt even know it was made by a different developer other than Bethesda. I even said out loud, " This just doesnt seem quite like a Bethesda game. Its like another developer is trying to emulate it 100% but its just off " to my wife.
Sure enough some time later I find out it WAS another developer after all. Who was in fact trying to 100% emulate Fallout 3. But it just wasnt the same. The magic was not there. And in all this time Ive never really wrapped my head around what the differences were that drove me away from it. Its really odd to me, because usually Im good at pinpointing what Im not happy or what I am happy with.
Sorry to Fallout NV fans. Anyways, if you havent played Fallout 3 OP, do so. I feel its superior. As for Fallout NV, if you must play it, you either get it for the PC or Xbox 360. Same with Fallout 3. Bethesda does not know how to code properly for the PS3. They never have and in all this time have never figured it out. Which also baffles me.
New Vegas has more quests, more factions, it's less linear, better main story, iron sights, etc.
If i remember right... NV has like 4 times more quests, and they have different endings and ways to finish them, while F3's quests where all linear.
New Vegas > Fallout 3
Edit: Found it, yup.... NV > F3
I really hope Bethesda lets Obsidian develope the new fallout game.... F3 was not only short, it had some serious lore raping stuff, Bethesda should stick with Elder Scrolls and let Obsidian do quality RPGs with more than 10 quests xD
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I still play it. I even still play it more than I play Skyrim.
The immersion and atmosphere are unparalled in my opinion.
Very inspired writing behind that game, great VO's. Also nice to have a survival mode ("hardcore mode") where you need to eat, drink and sleep. I only play with that activated + very hard difficulty.
Make sure to install a few kick ass mods though. My favorite ones are A World Of Pain (adds much, much more challenging dungeon content and enemy factions by using the game's assets to keep the mod light but with an amazing polish to it), Weapon Mods Expanded + the patch for AWOP weapons.
Next to that I use stuff like a back pack mod, a good looking body mod, a mod which lets you fill empty milk bottles with Brahmin Milk if you click on a brahmin, etc.
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Fallout NV is one of my favourite games, i like it much more than Fallout 3. Some hardcore Fallout 3-fans prefer Fallout 3, tho.
Fallout NV:
- Main quest is better and longer
- Quests have more choices & consequences, side quests feel more connected to main quest
- Better companions with more "character"
- It's more "authenic", like Fallout 1+2
- No level scaling, some new features
- Better DLC
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Fallout 3 was or is definately one of the best games in the last ten years for me, but you have to mod it for sure. Without lots of community mods the game is only half fun and with mods you can get up to 80-100 hours. Some kind of survival mod is really great, without speed travelling, without using the too easy VAT aiming system, with additional companions, harder monsters and so on....to eat to drink...just a little more hard when it comes to surviving and you will have a fantastic game.
Fallout Vegas: same ...look for mods and dont play the game out of the box. For me FA3 is the better game since some of the quests were a lot more extraordinary, but Vegas is fun aswell...if you mod it !
Wished Bethesda would make another game which isnt fantasy like oblivion or skyrim, even I do like these games.
Just a different theme would be that great again and soo refreshing, western style, napoleon era or whatever would be cool.
I really enjoy the Fallout games, and "New Vegas" was great, But some of the dlc is not, while some is. Look that part over.
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I personally enjoyed Fallout 3 more. The atmosphere was WAY better, which (FOR ME) is one of the most important things in a game. Not to mention, I loved the enclave, brotherhood...the whole feel of it. Enclave were awesome. And with mods, it became a lot more epic.
I think I liked the setting in FO3 more...Vegas just doesn't do it for me. And again, the mods probably helped a lot with that.
I still play Fallout 3 more than any other game, even more than Skyrim. Though, I do love Skyrim quite a bit and play that a lot...but FO3 I play a bit more.
To me, FO3 and FONV are at a tie.
Yes, Obsidian introduced weapon mod kids and other new gameplay, but they were incomplete. There was more questing to get absorbed in, which was good. But there were 2 major things that dragged FONV down for me.
1. Factions were bland. NCR, Caesar's Legion, New Vagas were boring factions. Picking one or the other, the opposing factions were nothing that I would call dangerous to your hero/heroine/villain. The NCR were incompetent, lost fools spread out in the desert. Caesar's Legion live under illusions of grandeur armed with machetes and the worst guns anyone can field in a FO game. They talk a mean game, but die like flies for no gain. New Vegas faction? Forgot it even existed.
2. Overall "feel" of everything in FONV did not connect with me like it did FO3. For FONV, it's a big mix of how bland the factions were, the major NPCs you interact with, the underwhelming nature of some NPCs I was looking forward to (like Marcus, an old FO2 companion, and they even got Michael Dorne to reprise the role), and how small, unpopulated, and disappointing the town of New Vegas actually was. The promos made me think of a 1950s real life "Vegas" with a FO twist, but New Vegas was totally disappointing.
For me, the major NPCs of FO3, the "fit" of everything in the Capital Wastelands, and the very dangerous Enclave just came together better than FONV. Obsidian tried to do more but left alot unfinished, and everything else was bland.
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all this and you can turn on the hardcore mode where you have to eat / drink / sleep etc.. and get broken bones fixed at doctors, which makes it more like the first ones, more about survival.
That's funny, because I find all New Vegas DLC's are the best ever made in gaming history.
Why don't you check your facts first. There is not a single name that is credited in Fallout 1 manual, that would be also credited in Fallout New Vegas Manual. Similarly, Fallout 2 shares only a couple of names with Fallout NV, check mobygames site for credits and collaborations of programmers on similar games. Fallout 3 NV team WAS STILL mostly consisted of the same people that did Fallout 3.
Here's the list.
Collaborations of Fallout NV: (People who have worked on this game have also collaborated on the creation of the following games):
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, a group of 127 people
Brink, a group of 104 people
Rage, a group of 100 people
Fallout 3, a group of 93 people
Hunted: The Demon's Forge, a group of 91 people
Doom II, a group of 79 people
Rogue Warrior, a group of 75 people
Dungeon Siege III, a group of 69 people
Alpha Protocol, a group of 63 people
WET, a group of 59 people
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, a group of 48 people
Neverwinter Nights 2: Gold, a group of 44 people
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Collector's Edition), a group of 44 people
Fallout: New Vegas - Lonesome Road, a group of 43 people
Fallout: New Vegas - Dead Money, a group of 43 people
Fallout: New Vegas - Honest Hearts, a group of 41 people
Fallout: New Vegas - Old World Blues, a group of 41 people
Star Trek: Conquest, a group of 32 people
Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, a group of 29 people
Neverwinter Nights 2: Storm of Zehir, a group of 26 people
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II - The Sith Lords, a group of 22 people
Saints Row: The Third, a group of 20 people
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II - Retribution, a group of 17 people
The Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles, a group of 17 people
Star Wars: The Old Republic, a group of 16 people
Can you see Fallout 1 or Fallout 2 on the list?
Same the other way around:
Collaborations of the team that made Fallout 1
Fallout 2, a group of 71 people
Star Trek: Starfleet Academy, a group of 50 people
Descent to Undermountain, a group of 40 people
Blood & Magic, a group of 36 people
Stonekeep, a group of 36 people
Baldur's Gate, a group of 33 people
M.A.X.: Mechanized Assault & Exploration, a group of 31 people
Descent II, a group of 29 people
Planescape: Torment, a group of 28 people
Conquest of the New World, a group of 28 people
Shattered Steel, a group of 28 people
Waterworld, a group of 27 people
Icewind Dale, a group of 27 people
Norse by Norse West: The Return of the Lost Vikings, a group of 27 people
Carmageddon, a group of 25 people
Conquest of the New World (Deluxe Edition), a group of 24 people
Star Trek: Judgment Rites, a group of 24 people
Star Trek: Judgment Rites (Limited CD-ROM Collector's Edition), a group of 24 people
M.A.X. 2: Mechanized Assault & Exploration, a group of 23 people
Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, a group of 21 people
Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (Collector's Edition), a group of 21 people
Descent, a group of 20 people
Die by the Sword, a group of 20 people
Clay Fighter: Sculptor's Cut, a group of 20 people
Atomic Bomberman, a group of 20 people
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Ok so, Now that ive finished the game (minus dlc) in hardcore mode in 35 horus....
Over all i have to say i enjoyed fallout 3 more over all. that's not to say there wasn't a lot of very cool stuff in NV
NV's quest and factions really filled out the experience in comparison to FO3, the questing structure seemed to be like "wows" you go to a location and there will be several quests offered from the location/npc. which then led to other areas doing the the same thing..and so on and so on..
And the factions really let you role play with your character and feel intertwined with the world in a way fallout3 seemed not so good at doing.
Some of the the things i really didn't like was the FUCKING CRASH TO DESKTOPS that occurred at least hourly and like 200 times during the first play through. also the graphics in new vegas looked sub par to what fallout 3 had, now i had all the mods, FXAA injectors for them both, but NV looked alot more "cartoony" for some reason..
Finally i was really disappointed with the size and scale of the las Vegas strip. I really expected there to be a lot more casinos with more npc's and quests within them.
Also i thought a lot more of the game would take place there.
I do not regret the purchase, and the price of $40AUD for ultimate was reasonable, but for me to keep playing (which i really want to) i gota find away to fix these CTD's....its really killing the experience now.
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