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Seems like the game has peaked on XFire - Part 2
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This thread already doesn't load in non-IE browsers.
MMORPG, you have to fix this, so it is not possible to input the bad data.
Maybe it's the threads way of saying, "Let me die".
I had to reinstall IE just to view this.
The original thread is fine now, that can be viewed in Firefox NO PROBLEM as admin fixed it.
Obviously the problem is not it being too many pages.
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No, the problem is invalid characters, the admin told me.
They have to block invalid characters in the editor, or this problem will just pop up again and again.
It seems that IE is more tolerant, but maybe not so strange, seeing that IE has a notorious history of breaking the HTML standard.
Posted by Metentso:
DAY
DATE
# players
% same day prev. week
% from max
notes
Sunday
01/04/12
3911
-9,53%
-66,86%
Monday
02/04/12
3587
-4,95%
-69,60%
Tuesday
03/04/12
3389
-8,85%
-71,28%
Wednesday
04/04/12
3458
-5,44%
-70,69%
Thursday
05/04/12
3465
-4,76%
-70,64%
Friday
06/04/12
3532
0,68%
-70,07%
free week end
Saturday
07/04/12
3570
-3,98%
-69,75%
aprox
Sunday
08/04/12
4009
2,51%
-66,03%
Monday
09/04/12
3539
-1,34%
-70,01%
Tuesday
10/04/12
3329
-1,77%
-71,79%
Wednesday
11/04/12
3371
-2,52%
-71,43%
Thursday
12/04/12
3989
15,12%
-66,19%
jebus patch
Friday
13/04/12
3836
8,61%
-67,49%
Saturday
14/04/12
4213
18,01%
-64,30%
Sunday
15/04/12
4372
9,05%
-62,95%
Monday
16/04/12
4006
13,20%
-66,05%
Tuesday
17/04/12
3827
14,96%
-67,57%
Wednesday
18/04/12
3904
15,81%
-66,92%
Thursday
19/04/12
3794
-4,89%
-67,85%
Friday
20/04/12
3652
-4,80%
-69,05%
Saturday
21/04/12
3699
-12,20%
-68,65%
Sunday
22/04/12
3840
-12,17%
-67,46%
Monday
23/04/12
3434
-14,28%
-70,90%
Tuesday
24/04/12
3179
-16,93%
-73,06%
lowest ever
Wednesday
25/04/12
3184
-18,44%
-73,02%
Thursday
26/04/12
3217
-15,21%
-72,74%
Copy of the graph is somewhat large! Have to add in the more recent data if necessary.
The more recent numbers certainly seems to have broken the 3,000 barrier however despite all the promotion.
Ah I have it!
EA's promotion is specifically designed to attract only those people who do not use XFire; how could I have failed to see this? (cough)
Nice chart gervaise1!!!! REALLY appreciate the time and effort you've put into logging this data.
PM before you report at least or you could just block.
Yay new thread! thanks mod, was a pain the old one.
An honest review of SW:TOR 6/10 (Danny Wojcicki)
SWTOR vs. WoW time played on XFire
Yellow line = SWTOR's time played on XFire, 100% = WoW's time played on XFire
All my data is taken from Saturdays.
Wow GW2 had a population drop in beta?
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
We are really going to have a conversation about population in a game's beta?
Really?
Servers shutting down when beta weekend ended made it harder to play the game.
TUX426 posted:
"Nice chart gervaise1!!!! REALLY appreciate the time and effort you've put into logging this data."
The credit is Metentso's - and his table is much prettier; I just copied and pasted it from the old thread until Metentso posted an update.
As for the data - well EA will be providing their quarterly results in a few days and I can't see them getting away with saying nothing. And given the free 30 day promotion how will they count them as they don't fall into the 'industry standard' definition of paid subscriber, 30 days included or current time card which is what they referred to yesterday.
It will be interesting to see the questions they get from analysts and the answers they give. Will they spin it in a positive light or talk about 'intense competition'? Will they give an industry standard definition of subs as of 30th March = X? An industry standard definition as of the end-April = Y?
GW2 shouldn't even be put on the chart until they launch. I am surprised by TERA's low performance, as that just launched, which from the looks of it couldn't even beat GW2 in beta.
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
Subscriptions are not players. And it's important to remember that while you can't be player without a subscription (for accounting purposes) you can have a subscription without an active player. A second thing ot remember is that they're accounting for SUBSCRIPTIONS, not active players.
So, what makes this tricky was the activation process. You needed a game card or credit card. Fine. If you had a credit card, your sub (if chose not to renew) ended after the '30-day trial' period.
However, because somewhere around 40% of gamers don't have credit cards and use time cards, they were all forced into 90-day minimum subscriptions. So, anyone who bought/activated the game after January 4th will be on the books. Even if they stopped playing months before thier subscription ended.
Because EA isn't going to tells us the renewal rates of the CC people (it would be too revealing) they're going to use that forced time-card activation as a 'renewal.' And they're going to report it as an active sub.
To understand this number... Total sales from January 7th through the end of February were about 400,000K. Meaning we've got somewhere around 160K 'subscriptons that automatically 'count' regardless of playing, until sometime after March 31st. We've got another 60K 'subs' that cannot, credit-card or game-card activated, expire until April at the earliest as well.
So just 1st quarter sales, regardless of account activity, is going to have a floor somewhere around 240K. That's, essentially, inescapable.
So, when the numbers come out. I'm going to take them. Subtract 240K. Do some algebra and get the drop rate.
I'm honestly thinking it was close to 60% after first month for the credit card activators. I can't be entirely sure. But that's what my numbers were bouncing around.
I could barely discern any language in this post, it was just marred in poop. If you're going to throw up statistics, pull them from a hat or something less stinky.
Xfire rankings
#3 World of Warcraft : 60410 h
#7 Star Wars The Old Republic: : 12600h
#13 Aion: 6851h
#20 Eve Online: 4102h
#22 Guild Wars: 3751h
#46 Rift: 1687h
#48 Star Trek Online: 1662h
#61 TERA: 1276h
#66 DCUO: 1182h
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
Edited. Double post
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
Tera launched today, we will get the number tomorrow. I will put a label saying gw2 was in beta. Tera data in the graph is head start.
An honest review of SW:TOR 6/10 (Danny Wojcicki)
The Xfire numbers are interesting but it is too small of a sampling base to draw much of a conclusion from....... We've done a few polls here to see how many gamers actually use Xfire and its been 30% or less the last couple of times..... Also I'd guess that it appeals mainly to a certain age range and a certain type of gamer...I have never had Xfire come with any game myself nor do I play any games that suggest using it.
We are really going to have a conversation about population in a game's beta?
Really?
It is good thing to keep it on the graph to show the flat earthers that XFire does mirror trends, beta weekend finishes population drops to 0. Some of them are quite stubborn because they cannot string thoughts together so well.
Yes, all those factors will introduce margins of error into the results, all except you not using XFire, that is irrelevant.wow it's the same three to four haters pounding this horse into sludge. Wouldn't it be easier to take it to PM since tis basically the 4 of you bumping your on thread.