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You can make profitable money in the RMAH and not feel sorry about it.

nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

If you are serious with the RMAH and have the items and work for it, you can make a pretty good side job/part time job with the RMAH, will it replace your current full time job, no it will not. Though one can say with the profits of a hard worker in diablo 3 that item hunts and sells you can make above state minimum wage with sales.

 

RMAH is no different than having a job in sales, except there is no pressure of being fired, a good salesmen WILL sell, and people that say no one will buy off of RMAH and just sell, no wrong, matter fact there maybe just as much buying as selling. People are addicted to these games, so much so that people will pay 10K+ for a virtual item, its been done many times before itll  be done many times again. People will even take their own lives and the lives of others for virtual items.

It`s sad but its true, there is a lot of money to be made here if thought of as a hobby or a side sales job. People have sold things for 1000s on ebay from diablo 2.

Not every one in diablo 3 will put up a Perfect Windforce or Grandfather sword or a perfect item for 250$  on RMAH and if thats the case most people will still use ebay/D3J for selling extremely powerful gear cause they know they will get more than 250. Even if some of the profits are going towards blizzard, I don`t mind because its just like selling at a sales job, if you sell something you do not get 100% of the profits you get a commision of that profit and the rest goes to the corporation.

Wether you find the RMAH moral or not is up to you, if you dont plan to use it that is also up to you. I for one do not believe in buying online virtual goods, but I am also a realist, I know its going to happen, if not through ebay or third party sites it will happen. RMAH is just a controlled scamless enviornment like many of those third party sites were with DIablo 2.

I welcome the RMAH, because I am a realist and know online buying of virtual goods cannot be stopped but atleast it can be controlled.

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  • MaNiaGGMaNiaGG Member UncommonPosts: 76

    any1 european or american that thinks he can life from the income of rmah gotta wake up, seriously....electricity and your isp prolly gonna cost more than you will earn in a month ;-)

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  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by MaNiaGG

    any1 european or american that thinks he can life from the income of rmah gotta wake up, seriously....electricity and your isp prolly gonna cost more than you will earn in a month ;-)

    You cant make a life off of it just like a majority of americans or euros cant make a life off of sales, but can it be profitable? Yes. Can it pay a bill or 2, yes.

     

    Diablo 3 has way more loot variations than Diablo 2 + its expansion had, plus with all the crafting etc. If you cant manage to make atleast 100$ a month off of it with hard work, you are doing something wrong.

  • ZezdaZezda Member UncommonPosts: 686

    Good luck competing with the people who actually run it as a business in Asia and other places on the cheap either using labour or bots.

     

    You think *you* are going to make any money on the RMAH? buawhaha, good luck with that bro. You're either running bots or might as well spend all your money on the lottery.

  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by Zezda

    Good luck competing with the people who actually run it as a business in Asia and other places on the cheap either using labour or bots.

     

    You think *you* are going to make any money on the RMAH? buawhaha, good luck with that bro. You're either running bots or might as well spend all your money on the lottery.

    But YOU think people are going to have constant good loot drops, doesnt work that way. I had a Very high MF sorc in Diablo 2, and got something worth keeping once a month.

    Besides the asian markets will be separate from the US markets.  They are not connected.

  • KothosesKothoses Member UncommonPosts: 931

    Originally posted by nomatics856

    matter fact there maybe just as much buying as selling. 

    There will be EXACTLY the same amount of buying as there is actual selling that is how economics work.

     

    Dont kid your self though people just because the different areas are region locked the big gold selling companies WILL be active in all regions driving the prices down.  If blizzard is as successful at combatting them here as it was in wow... well dont except to make a massive income off this game.  The people making massive incomes will be the ones on top of the sales pyramid, your average player might get lucky and cover his wow sub for 1 or 2 months out of the year.

     

    Its a feature introduced more for the Buyers of this world than the sellers....

  • ZezdaZezda Member UncommonPosts: 686

    Originally posted by nomatics856

    Originally posted by Zezda

    Good luck competing with the people who actually run it as a business in Asia and other places on the cheap either using labour or bots.

     

    You think *you* are going to make any money on the RMAH? buawhaha, good luck with that bro. You're either running bots or might as well spend all your money on the lottery.

    But YOU think people are going to have constant good loot drops, doesnt work that way. I had a Very high MF sorc in Diablo 2, and got something worth keeping once a month.

    Besides the asian markets will be separate from the US markets.  They are not connected.

    Law of Averages my friend, Law of Averages.

    Get used to it.

  • JimmydeanJimmydean Member UncommonPosts: 1,290

    The only people making money on the D3 RMAH is Blizzard, don't fool yourselves.

  • DerpybirdDerpybird Member Posts: 991

    Originally posted by Jimmydean

    The only people making money on the D3 RMAH is Blizzard, don't fool yourselves.

    Is it just me that thinks Blizz will be closely monitoring revenue from the RMAH and will be "tweaking" drops accordingly?

    "Loading screens" are not "instances".
    Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  • saurus123saurus123 Member UncommonPosts: 678

    if anyone thinks he can get some decend money from this is wrong

    only bots and farmers will get money from it (now easier becouse everyone get his lot)

    its one auction house for all regions

     

    ohh and dont forget 15% tax from blizzard :)

    plus paypal tax no idea how much it is

  • GamerUntouchGamerUntouch Member Posts: 488

    Sorry, but due to the amount of people who will be trying this, you'll make chump change.

  • saurus123saurus123 Member UncommonPosts: 678

    Originally posted by Charlizzard

    Originally posted by Jimmydean

    The only people making money on the D3 RMAH is Blizzard, don't fool yourselves.

    Is it just me that thinks Blizz will be closely monitoring revenue from the RMAH and will be "tweaking" drops accordingly?

    they can also put thiers created items in ah so pure profit for them :)

  • dannydeucedannydeuce Member Posts: 310

    Any normal human being will not make anywhere CLOSE to minimum wage in my honest opinion.  Can you make SOME money, yep.  Could a months work pay for 1 night out, perhaps.  With that said, anyone that thinks you will make money from this game on a regular basis is just foolish, enough to warrant any substantial amount.

  • MephsterMephster Member Posts: 1,188

    You can make some cash but not anything significant. You might be able to get back your money from buying the game.

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  • mmoguy43mmoguy43 Member UncommonPosts: 2,770

    I haven't read up on it much but..the money you make off of RMAH stays within the game's currency doesn't it? or do you cash out in real money?

  • DerpybirdDerpybird Member Posts: 991

    Originally posted by mmoguy43

    I haven't read up on it much but..the money you make off of RMAH stays within the game's currency doesn't it? or do you cash out in real money?

    They pay you in "battle.net" credit which can be used to buy Blizz services. If you want actual money, you have to use the provider for your region (e.g. Paypal) and pay another 15% fee.

    "Loading screens" are not "instances".
    Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    People made money off of diablo 2 items off ebay, I made money off of diablo 2 items on ebay, its same sh*t just a different producer. You all do not know how economics work, its sales, in a sales job people who are good at sales will always stay on top, there are people who make piss pore sales but still work in sales.

     

    YOu will make a profit, a profit what you recieve back that is more then what you put in. If you make more than 60$ with diablo 3 even in a years time, you still make a profit. I never once said this will get you a living, all I said was its profitable.

  • Lo-KiLo-Ki Member UncommonPosts: 98

    Getting people to spend Real money on items they can earn in a game is going to be interesting (nevermind the F2P cash shop models MMOs have been using).  I could post something to the AH all day everyday...you still have to convince people they need it enough to spend real world cash on it.  There are some who would at the drop of a dime, but probably a lot more players who will wonder if they could find the item or something better on their own.  I'm not familiar with how this is going to work in D3 but I know I'm personally not spending any real world money on something...ill post to the AH though if possible haha.  What's the incentive of purchasing if tons of loot drops anyways?  Just curious...seems like there will be a ton of people posting items and fewer buying them...

     

    I'm not knocking the system...it seems rather cool and interesting to me.  Even if you make $.10...the idea of getting something at all is nice.


  • JimmydeanJimmydean Member UncommonPosts: 1,290
    So is picking up trash cans by the side of the road. Id reckon thats is even more profitable than the RMAH in d3.
  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by Lo-Ki

    Getting people to spend Real money on items they can earn in a game is going to be interesting (nevermind the F2P cash shop models MMOs have been using).  I could post something to the AH all day everyday...you still have to convince people they need it enough to spend real world cash on it.  There are some who would at the drop of a dime, but probably a lot more players who will wonder if they could find the item or something better on their own.  I'm not familiar with how this is going to work in D3 but I know I'm personally not spending any real world money on something...ill post to the AH though if possible haha.  What's the incentive of purchasing if tons of loot drops anyways?  Just curious...seems like there will be a ton of people posting items and fewer buying them...

    millions upon millions will be playing Diablo 3, people paid a lot of money to buy items in diablo 2, just not through blizzard. It happens. The incentives is that you have loot you couldnt get on your own, you have time restrictions

     

    And when ladder PVP comes out, there will be a BOON in sales.

  • expressoexpresso Member UncommonPosts: 2,218

    No one will get rich or will pay the rent with the RMAH, for me I dont plan to buy from the RMAH cus part of the game is playing and getting the drops, I would however have no issue posting my surplus gold on the RMAH. 

    Now if a peice of gear is consistantly selling for $100 on the RMAH and it drops for me I would have to have a good hard think about selling it... who wouldn't but other than posting my spare gold I dont plan to use the RMAH.

    If I can make a dollar or two a week on the RMAH then great (selling my spare gold), thats a good portion of mt WoW sub paid for.

  • nyxiumnyxium Member UncommonPosts: 1,345

    This. Free money mo' money mo' money.

  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by nyxium

    This. Free money mo' money mo' money.

    Exactly.

  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by Aori

    With the RMAH sell cap it'll be a bit rougher to get those lucky transactions. During D2X, sold tal rashas armor piece for $600 on ebay. People pay and yes if the dice roll in your favor you can earn some cash. There are more buyers now than then, even more so now that it is infact legal and safer.

    Making a living isn't a safe bet but you can really suppliment your income fairly well if you know what to do. There will be alot of buying and reselling on the RMAH, should be interesting.

    However for time spent on the game you'll make less than minimum wage, unless you get incredibily lucky but you should never bet on luck if you can't afford to.

    but I have a strong feeling you will not see a perfect windforce, grandfather sword, Tals armor selling for 250. YOu will not see the top tier Inferno items on the RMAH

  • adam_noxadam_nox Member UncommonPosts: 2,148

    You can pay your rent with the rmah, you just have to 'play' for 16 hours a day and live in china, because that's who you will be competing against price-wise.  This isn't going to be anything like d2 on ebay.

  • adam_noxadam_nox Member UncommonPosts: 2,148

    Originally posted by nomatics856

    Originally posted by Aori

    With the RMAH sell cap it'll be a bit rougher to get those lucky transactions. During D2X, sold tal rashas armor piece for $600 on ebay. People pay and yes if the dice roll in your favor you can earn some cash. There are more buyers now than then, even more so now that it is infact legal and safer.

    Making a living isn't a safe bet but you can really suppliment your income fairly well if you know what to do. There will be alot of buying and reselling on the RMAH, should be interesting.

    However for time spent on the game you'll make less than minimum wage, unless you get incredibily lucky but you should never bet on luck if you can't afford to.

    but I have a strong feeling you will not see a perfect windforce, grandfather sword, Tals armor selling for 250. YOu will not see the top tier Inferno items on the RMAH

    sure you will, for 19.95.

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