When my wizard uses one of her abilities, ememies are diced into 5 pieces and their limbs and heads go flying all over.
When my monk does a strong punch he literely punches the skin off the enemy and a bloody skeleton goes flying off the screen.
Right before you kill the butcher there's torturing devices where a fat corpse gets grinded up in a wheel and there's buckets of heads that you can hit that cause little heads to go flying all over the place.
In the beginning of act 2 there's dozens of impaled bodies all over the screen and in general THERE'S DEAD BLOODY CORPSES ALL OVER THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.
Go watch some snuff films or something man cause you seem to need a bigger fix.
Either that or quit playing gogogogogogo Inferno 16 hours a day and slow down to look at the screen for a few minutes.
You grossly exaggerate the level of blood and gore in the game. Body parts occasionally do fall to the ground, with a tiny splat of blood and minimal details. Additionally, Maghda doesn't even fit thr game. Expectation: Game of Thrones. Reality: Power Rangers. Like I said, it's supposed to be horror ala the Doom series. Lord of Terror? My ass!
What? Are you even looking at the environments as you pass through them? The poster you responded to actually listed things of which I can verify, every single one of them, with screen shots.
You mean the Scooby Doo environments? Sorry, but a kid's cartoon does not scare me... I mean, zoinks, dude...
Who said anything about being scared? The poster that you responded to mentioned a list of gore related actions or animations that exist within the game. They're verifiable, they exist, they're why the game received a mature rating. It doesn't matter if you find it scary, because that wasn't even being discusssed.
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Originally posted by Souldrainer The "gore" people are talking about is not very impressive to me. Maybe if I hadn't played God of War or Manhunt, it would be impressive. Moreover, the 2008 alpha footage was FAR more impressive, where body parts flew into the air instead of going across the ground, and with death animations which were removed out of sheer laziness. ***Possible Spoilers***Moreover, the most annoying part is that the story is not mature, at all. Characters like Magda should go back to Power Rangers, or wherever they came from. Every time we kill the Butcher, we are reminded that this is now geared toward's that audience, not the core fans of Diablo. It was so bad, that I didn't even buy the death of Deckard Kain. When he died, I remembered thinking that there was alpha story content which we saw in 2008, and he'd be back for it. I also felt detached, as if they somehow got the character wrong and didn't portray him correctly this time around. This is a character I had known for 16 years, and when he died, I felt like "meh." Now, when Dom Santiago died, I cried. That was an emotional investment. Nevermind that Tyreal went from being a major badass to being a whiny idiot. D3 just does not have an emotionally investing, mature story.I guess it's as much of a thing of dropped mature content/features as it is about the rating itself. But I digress, these two videos are far more mature than all of the M-rated content in Diablo 3 put together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwUAv-SSZqwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeYAaGKOhzIOriginally posted by MerdurYou also have to understand that the plotline is about "hell", the esrb is most likely full of religous nuts and this is why it would get an M rating. Sadly, you are probably correct. Originally posted by IrusI'm very happy it doesn't fit "top 5 most violent games". I would probably stay the fuck away if it did.
If you would rather see a company change an IP than use violence, then you are part of the problem. Diablo is supposed to have mature content, anti-religion themes, horrror, and gore. It's part of the series. Err, it was for the first two games, anyway.
Originally posted by kiernThere are a few blood smears here and there, but not that much. Most of the dead bodies you come across could just as easily be sleeping bodies. No blood or other signs of violence, though there are a few, minor exceptions. Compared to Diablo 1, this seems pretty mild. In that game there were naked, mutilated boddies all over the place, and the Butcher's chambers was completely covered in blood from floor to ceiling. You knew why he was called the Butcher. In D3, the Butcher's chamber is a nearly pristine room with fire instead of blood. It does seem pretty mild in comparison.
Exactly. The Butcher is about the best example. See, Doom 3 was a proper example of a sequel. Doom 1 scared people and had hellish themes. Doom 3 did too. We should be SCARED of Diablo on the first go around... not "There's the crook, let's get him." This was supposed to be a horror game!
I think the severed heads flying across the screen constantly pretty much clenched it an M rating. It's a better reason than tits anyway.
my monk causes a gruesome fatality with every punch. if the head doesnt fly off, the entire skeleton is kicked out of the meat bag, and catchs fire, or he electrocutes them raiden style with his thundering fists zapping moves, and 7 sided strikes makes a cloud of red mist out of entire hordes of things.
so ya, its a gorey game, M is not an innapropriate rating for the level of violence in this one.
yeah i figured out we're just being trolled by a necrophiliac.
Just because he's baiting people over this topic doesn't mean he wants a skull fuck ability in the game.
:P
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Originally posted by Souldrainer The "gore" people are talking about is not very impressive to me. Maybe if I hadn't played God of War or Manhunt, it would be impressive. Moreover, the 2008 alpha footage was FAR more impressive, where body parts flew into the air instead of going across the ground, and with death animations which were removed out of sheer laziness.
***Possible Spoilers***
Moreover, the most annoying part is that the story is not mature, at all. Characters like Magda should go back to Power Rangers, or wherever they came from. Every time we kill the Butcher, we are reminded that this is now geared toward's that audience, not the core fans of Diablo. It was so bad, that I didn't even buy the death of Deckard Kain. When he died, I remembered thinking that there was alpha story content which we saw in 2008, and he'd be back for it. I also felt detached, as if they somehow got the character wrong and didn't portray him correctly this time around. This is a character I had known for 16 years, and when he died, I felt like "meh." Now, when Dom Santiago died, I cried. That was an emotional investment. Nevermind that Tyreal went from being a major badass to being a whiny idiot. D3 just does not have an emotionally investing, mature story.
I guess it's as much of a thing of dropped mature content/features as it is about the rating itself. But I digress, these two videos are far more mature than all of the M-rated content in Diablo 3 put together:
Originally posted by MerdurYou also have to understand that the plotline is about "hell", the esrb is most likely full of religous nuts and this is why it would get an M rating. Sadly, you are probably correct.
Originally posted by IrusI'm very happy it doesn't fit "top 5 most violent games". I would probably stay the fuck away if it did.
If you would rather see a company change an IP than use violence, then you are part of the problem. Diablo is supposed to have mature content, anti-religion themes, horrror, and gore. It's part of the series. Err, it was for the first two games, anyway.
Originally posted by kiernThere are a few blood smears here and there, but not that much. Most of the dead bodies you come across could just as easily be sleeping bodies. No blood or other signs of violence, though there are a few, minor exceptions. Compared to Diablo 1, this seems pretty mild. In that game there were naked, mutilated boddies all over the place, and the Butcher's chambers was completely covered in blood from floor to ceiling. You knew why he was called the Butcher. In D3, the Butcher's chamber is a nearly pristine room with fire instead of blood. It does seem pretty mild in comparison.
Exactly. The Butcher is about the best example. See, Doom 3 was a proper example of a sequel. Doom 1 scared people and had hellish themes. Doom 3 did too. We should be SCARED of Diablo on the first go around... not "There's the crook, let's get him." This was supposed to be a horror game!
I'll gladly take a warning for this.
You are an idiot.
I think the general lack of reasoning in your post is self-defeating anyway.
So, there are people here who think you should assault the legions of Hell and confront the Lord of Terror, and the game should not be scary? If John Carmack thought that way in the 1990s, the FPS genre might not exist today. If Bill Roper had thought that way in 1996, Diablo 1 woudln't exist.
Diablo 1 was fucking scary for its time. As pointed out, the Butcher's chamber was a room full of blood and naked, impaled bodies from floor to ceiling, some of them in severe disrepair. Diablo 3? Butcher's chamber is a pristine BBQ grill with an idiot Power Rangers villain talking over him. It's childish, not hellish.
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I think the general lack of reasoning in your post is self-defeating anyway.
So, there are people here who think you should assault the legions of Hell and confront the Lord of Terror, and the game should not be scary? If John Carmack thought that way in the 1990s, the FPS genre might not exist today. If Bill Roper had thought that way in 1996, Diablo 1 woudln't exist.
Diablo 1 was fucking scary for its time. As pointed out, the Butcher's chamber was a room full of blood and naked, impaled bodies from floor to ceiling, some of them in severe disrepair. Diablo 3? Butcher's chamber is a pristine BBQ grill with an idiot Power Rangers villain talking over him. It's childish, not hellish.
What? No it wasn't. Nothing at any point in this series has been remotely scary. Where do you guys get this from? It's like the ones that act like this series had some stellar story line before D3 and then balk over this one.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Theres a lot of greusom animations....i dont see what the complaint was here...perhaps the OP's parents wont let him buy a game rated M...and if thats the case +1 to the parents.
Aside from the blood and nasty stuff...theres bloated corpses you can "explode" for loot...and anyone whos spent the time in the torture chambers levels can vouch...theres some nasty stuff in the game.
I mean i destroyed some kind of torture device with two spiked rollers on the bottom...there was still a corps (well half of one) on the machine...i ended up knocking off the first two leggs making it a ramp that the half corpse rolld down into the two spike rollers with a big spash of blood as it went through....and this was a non-essential ground object. Theres so hardcore material in the game...its just not every single dungeon is like that...though they all have lootable dead bodies and demon gore...
I dunno i think the game is fine with the level of gore thats in it...not sure why people need more to be happy..unless they are mentally sick.
You think this is hellish? Go on pull the other one.
Lol
Puts things in perspective I would say
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
You think this is hellish? Go on pull the other one.
Lol
Puts things in perspective I would say
What? I was about to comment and say that the video posted there was about as far out of perspective as things can get. I talked about environments and the guy shows a gameplay video? Apples to oranges there.
You want perspective? Zoom in on the room that the Butcher came out of, think back to 1996 graphics, and tell me there was a more horrifying dungeon crawler. What made it worse was that the dungeon was truly random, and sometimes you'd open a square room and it would be full of loot, but on level 3 or so, you had to be extra careful, because The Butcher was waiting for you!
That was back in the day though, and if you weren't there, you wouldn't understand. The real icing on the cake, though, is the top comment on the video, with 24 upvotes... it reinforces everything I am saying in this thread! Perspective? Excellent word choice there, Captain.
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You think this is hellish? Go on pull the other one.
Lol
Puts things in perspective I would say
What? I was about to comment and say that the video posted there was about as far out of perspective as things can get. I talked about environments and the guy shows a gameplay video? Apples to oranges there.
You want perspective? Zoom in on the room that the Butcher came out of, think back to 1996 graphics, and tell me there was a more horrifying dungeon crawler. What made it worse was that the dungeon was truly random, and sometimes you'd open a square room and it would be full of loot, but on level 3 or so, you had to be extra careful, because The Butcher was waiting for you!
That was back in the day though, and if you weren't there, you wouldn't understand. The real icing on the cake, though, is the top comment on the video, with 24 upvotes... it reinforces everything I am saying in this thread! Perspective? Excellent word choice there, Captain.
Did you ever play diablo? The butchers room looked exactly like that every time. There was nothing random about it. If you had the guy in a puddle of blood outside the cathedral you had the butcher on level 3. You could see into the room before you opened the door. There was no surprise. Try resident evil '96. That's not even the uncut version.
So, you're telling me the first time you played Diablo in 1996, you were not even remotely surprised or frightened when the Butcher ambushed you? You're also telling me at in Diablo 3, the Butcher's time of appearance is less predictable than he is in Diablo 1? If you're not saying these things, your argument is weak for lack of evidence. If you are, your argument is weak for simply being incorrect. Regardless, you keep expanding on ideas that are in the background of the argument instead of the main point. I don't care if The Butcher became somewhat predictable after a while. My first impression was, "WOW, that is freaky!" Diablo 3 lacks that kind of content.
Diablo 3 is way more predictable and childish than the version that came out 16 years ago. Diablo 1 brought you into hell. Diablo 3 doesn't do anything Hellish. Though the team seems to have tried in some small way, it misses the mark on every level.
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What? I was about to comment and say that the video posted there was about as far out of perspective as things can get. I talked about environments and the guy shows a gameplay video? Apples to oranges there.
You want perspective? Zoom in on the room that the Butcher came out of, think back to 1996 graphics, and tell me there was a more horrifying dungeon crawler. What made it worse was that the dungeon was truly random, and sometimes you'd open a square room and it would be full of loot, but on level 3 or so, you had to be extra careful, because The Butcher was waiting for you!
That was back in the day though, and if you weren't there, you wouldn't understand. The real icing on the cake, though, is the top comment on the video, with 24 upvotes... it reinforces everything I am saying in this thread! Perspective? Excellent word choice there, Captain.
I was there. You're simply embellishing the past as many do when they reminisce about the "good 'ole days". Nothing about that game was horrifying. Fun as hell for its time to be sure. Horrifying? Scary? Gory? Yeah right...give me a break
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
What? I was about to comment and say that the video posted there was about as far out of perspective as things can get. I talked about environments and the guy shows a gameplay video? Apples to oranges there.
You want perspective? Zoom in on the room that the Butcher came out of, think back to 1996 graphics, and tell me there was a more horrifying dungeon crawler. What made it worse was that the dungeon was truly random, and sometimes you'd open a square room and it would be full of loot, but on level 3 or so, you had to be extra careful, because The Butcher was waiting for you!
That was back in the day though, and if you weren't there, you wouldn't understand. The real icing on the cake, though, is the top comment on the video, with 24 upvotes... it reinforces everything I am saying in this thread! Perspective? Excellent word choice there, Captain.
I was there. You're simply embellishing the past as many do when they reminisce about the "good 'ole days". Nothing about that game was horrifying. Fun as hell for its time to be sure. Horrifying? Scary? Gory? Yeah right...give me a break
Whatever... you and your pocket buddy there are alone. The game had a lot of symbolism. Burning upside down crosses, inverted pentacles. A little boy sacrificed to the devil. You can pretend the story wasn't there because it was short, but to say it wasn't scary for its time? Name something more scary. And no, resident evil 1 was not scary, it was a very cheesy game with bad acting, until they remade it years later.
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What? I was about to comment and say that the video posted there was about as far out of perspective as things can get. I talked about environments and the guy shows a gameplay video? Apples to oranges there.
You want perspective? Zoom in on the room that the Butcher came out of, think back to 1996 graphics, and tell me there was a more horrifying dungeon crawler. What made it worse was that the dungeon was truly random, and sometimes you'd open a square room and it would be full of loot, but on level 3 or so, you had to be extra careful, because The Butcher was waiting for you!
That was back in the day though, and if you weren't there, you wouldn't understand. The real icing on the cake, though, is the top comment on the video, with 24 upvotes... it reinforces everything I am saying in this thread! Perspective? Excellent word choice there, Captain.
I was there. You're simply embellishing the past as many do when they reminisce about the "good 'ole days". Nothing about that game was horrifying. Fun as hell for its time to be sure. Horrifying? Scary? Gory? Yeah right...give me a break
Whatever... you and your pocket buddy there are alone. The game had a lot of symbolism. Burning upside down crosses, inverted pentacles. A little boy sacrificed to the devil. You can pretend the story wasn't there because it was short, but to say it wasn't scary for its time? Name something more scary. And no, resident evil 1 was not scary, it was a very cheesy game with bad acting, until they remade it years later.
Something more scary? Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte 1964. When that severed head came rolling down the stairs I almost jumped out of my skin. WTF difference does it make what year and what other things were more scary? Diablo isn't scary, never has been probably never will be.
*in gaming*. The fact remains... while some say Diablo 1 wasn't scary in hindsight, 16 years later, it was still the most terrifying Dungeon crawler to ever exist. Diablo 3 is still the most childish dungeon crawler to ever exist. They changed the IP.
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Whatever... you and your pocket buddy there are alone. The game had a lot of symbolism. Burning upside down crosses, inverted pentacles. A little boy sacrificed to the devil. You can pretend the story wasn't there because it was short, but to say it wasn't scary for its time? Name something more scary. And no, resident evil 1 was not scary, it was a very cheesy game with bad acting, until they remade it years later.
Not my fault no one agrees with you. Should try being right some time and you won't have that problem. Does wonders...
You're going to say that about RE when you're going on and on about how "scary" Diablo was? Hahahahaha
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
What? I was about to comment and say that the video posted there was about as far out of perspective as things can get. I talked about environments and the guy shows a gameplay video? Apples to oranges there.
You want perspective? Zoom in on the room that the Butcher came out of, think back to 1996 graphics, and tell me there was a more horrifying dungeon crawler. What made it worse was that the dungeon was truly random, and sometimes you'd open a square room and it would be full of loot, but on level 3 or so, you had to be extra careful, because The Butcher was waiting for you!
That was back in the day though, and if you weren't there, you wouldn't understand. The real icing on the cake, though, is the top comment on the video, with 24 upvotes... it reinforces everything I am saying in this thread! Perspective? Excellent word choice there, Captain.
I was there. You're simply embellishing the past as many do when they reminisce about the "good 'ole days". Nothing about that game was horrifying. Fun as hell for its time to be sure. Horrifying? Scary? Gory? Yeah right...give me a break
Whatever... you and your pocket buddy there are alone. The game had a lot of symbolism. Burning upside down crosses, inverted pentacles. A little boy sacrificed to the devil. You can pretend the story wasn't there because it was short, but to say it wasn't scary for its time? Name something more scary. And no, resident evil 1 was not scary, it was a very cheesy game with bad acting, until they remade it years later.
Something more scary? Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte 1964. When that severed head came rolling down the stairs I almost jumped out of my skin. WTF difference does it make what year and what other things were more scary? Diablo isn't scary, never has been probably never will be.
*in gaming*. The fact remains... while some say Diablo 1 wasn't scary in hindsight, 16 years later, it was still the most terrifying Dungeon crawler to ever exist. Diablo 3 is still the most childish dungeon crawler to ever exist. They changed the IP.
Hindsight hell Diablo was never scary. Diablo 3 is just as, if not more, gory than diablo 1. Your premise fails.
I disagree... as do several others in this thread and in the youtube video you posted. Diablo 3 isn't gory. A couple chunks of ham and some splotches of ketchup here and there? Pfft! Diablo 1 was had a gothic atmosphere of doom. It's widely talked about in reviews and impressions. If you disagree, that is fine, but if you think that people largely do not see a change in the IP, you're not reading enough. It's being talked about on the D3 site, on Amazon, on Metacritic, on Newegg, and most everywhere the game is discussed.
Diablo 1 gave some people nightmares. Deny it all you want. Back in my Army days I had friends who were scared to play it. It was like a Dungeon Crawler had a baby with Doom.
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Whatever... you and your pocket buddy there are alone. The game had a lot of symbolism. Burning upside down crosses, inverted pentacles. A little boy sacrificed to the devil. You can pretend the story wasn't there because it was short, but to say it wasn't scary for its time? Name something more scary. And no, resident evil 1 was not scary, it was a very cheesy game with bad acting, until they remade it years later.
Something more scary? Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte 1964. When that severed head came rolling down the stairs I almost jumped out of my skin. WTF difference does it make what year and what other things were more scary? Diablo isn't scary, never has been probably never will be.
Agreed. Blizzard never really intended the game to be scary either, it is about bashing in the heads of monsters, not scaring people.
Of course some people are more easily scared than others.
Personally I thought System shock 2 was a lot more creepier than Diablo, a lot more. I never even considered Diablo to be the least scary when I played it even if I do remember liking the butcher,.
Whatever... you and your pocket buddy there are alone. The game had a lot of symbolism. Burning upside down crosses, inverted pentacles. A little boy sacrificed to the devil. You can pretend the story wasn't there because it was short, but to say it wasn't scary for its time? Name something more scary. And no, resident evil 1 was not scary, it was a very cheesy game with bad acting, until they remade it years later.
Bash a corpse on a torture table and watch it get grinded up in the mechanism totally tearing the body apart in a explosion of blood. Constant death everywhere, caused by yourself. Demons and hell featured constantly.
These are not things kids should see. Kids will love it though.
In truth it's just as gory as the Saw films, you just don't get a view that is as close up. That's where your problem is; in the visual details. The games rating needs to consider the acts themselves though, regardless of how it looks.
If I show my daughter a video of someone suffocating another guy with a pillow, is that more acceptable than showing her a video of someone stabbing another guy?
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Whatever... you and your pocket buddy there are alone. The game had a lot of symbolism. Burning upside down crosses, inverted pentacles. A little boy sacrificed to the devil. You can pretend the story wasn't there because it was short, but to say it wasn't scary for its time? Name something more scary. And no, resident evil 1 was not scary, it was a very cheesy game with bad acting, until they remade it years later.
Yup, Diablo shouldn't be aiming for Dark/Gothic/Horror elements. You're right. "No one" agrees with me.
He shouldnt have jumped the gun and said no one. But for the most part he is right, most people think it's fine. Unfortunately It didnt head where you wanted it, perhaps Diablo 4 will. Good luck!
Bash a corpse on a torture table and watch is get grinded up in mechanism totally tearing the body apart in a explosion of blood. Constant death everywhere, caused by yourself. Demons and hell featured constantly.
These are not things kids should see. Kids will love it though.
In truth it's just as gory as the Saw films, you just don't get a view that is as close up. That's where your problem is; in the visual details. The games rating needs to consider the acts themselves though, regardless of how it looks.
Yeah.
How you can say this game is tame and has nothing compared to the original Diablo is simply baffling. There are countless examples you could give. Guess it simply isn't close or visceral enough for the OP.
Least not like the first one was
>_>
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
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Who said anything about being scared? The poster that you responded to mentioned a list of gore related actions or animations that exist within the game. They're verifiable, they exist, they're why the game received a mature rating. It doesn't matter if you find it scary, because that wasn't even being discusssed.
"This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran)
Originally posted by kiern There are a few blood smears here and there, but not that much. Most of the dead bodies you come across could just as easily be sleeping bodies. No blood or other signs of violence, though there are a few, minor exceptions. Compared to Diablo 1, this seems pretty mild. In that game there were naked, mutilated boddies all over the place, and the Butcher's chambers was completely covered in blood from floor to ceiling. You knew why he was called the Butcher. In D3, the Butcher's chamber is a nearly pristine room with fire instead of blood. It does seem pretty mild in comparison.
Exactly. The Butcher is about the best example. See, Doom 3 was a proper example of a sequel. Doom 1 scared people and had hellish themes. Doom 3 did too. We should be SCARED of Diablo on the first go around... not "There's the crook, let's get him." This was supposed to be a horror game!
I'll gladly take a warning for this.
You are an idiot.
my monk causes a gruesome fatality with every punch. if the head doesnt fly off, the entire skeleton is kicked out of the meat bag, and catchs fire, or he electrocutes them raiden style with his thundering fists zapping moves, and 7 sided strikes makes a cloud of red mist out of entire hordes of things.
so ya, its a gorey game, M is not an innapropriate rating for the level of violence in this one.
yeah i figured out we're just being trolled by a necrophiliac.
Just because he's baiting people over this topic doesn't mean he wants a skull fuck ability in the game.
:P
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I think the general lack of reasoning in your post is self-defeating anyway.
So, there are people here who think you should assault the legions of Hell and confront the Lord of Terror, and the game should not be scary? If John Carmack thought that way in the 1990s, the FPS genre might not exist today. If Bill Roper had thought that way in 1996, Diablo 1 woudln't exist.
Diablo 1 was fucking scary for its time. As pointed out, the Butcher's chamber was a room full of blood and naked, impaled bodies from floor to ceiling, some of them in severe disrepair. Diablo 3? Butcher's chamber is a pristine BBQ grill with an idiot Power Rangers villain talking over him. It's childish, not hellish.
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What? No it wasn't. Nothing at any point in this series has been remotely scary. Where do you guys get this from? It's like the ones that act like this series had some stellar story line before D3 and then balk over this one.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Theres a lot of greusom animations....i dont see what the complaint was here...perhaps the OP's parents wont let him buy a game rated M...and if thats the case +1 to the parents.
Aside from the blood and nasty stuff...theres bloated corpses you can "explode" for loot...and anyone whos spent the time in the torture chambers levels can vouch...theres some nasty stuff in the game.
I mean i destroyed some kind of torture device with two spiked rollers on the bottom...there was still a corps (well half of one) on the machine...i ended up knocking off the first two leggs making it a ramp that the half corpse rolld down into the two spike rollers with a big spash of blood as it went through....and this was a non-essential ground object. Theres so hardcore material in the game...its just not every single dungeon is like that...though they all have lootable dead bodies and demon gore...
I dunno i think the game is fine with the level of gore thats in it...not sure why people need more to be happy..unless they are mentally sick.
What about those buildings in Act 2 with demonic shrines where the centerpiece is some big demon torso that's been nicely opened up?
The game has nude succubi. I guess that deserves an M.
Actually I think he kinda does. He's mentioned in a few posts that this game doesn't have any naked mutilated bodies like D1.
Lol
Puts things in perspective I would say
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
What? I was about to comment and say that the video posted there was about as far out of perspective as things can get. I talked about environments and the guy shows a gameplay video? Apples to oranges there.
You want perspective? Zoom in on the room that the Butcher came out of, think back to 1996 graphics, and tell me there was a more horrifying dungeon crawler. What made it worse was that the dungeon was truly random, and sometimes you'd open a square room and it would be full of loot, but on level 3 or so, you had to be extra careful, because The Butcher was waiting for you!
That was back in the day though, and if you weren't there, you wouldn't understand. The real icing on the cake, though, is the top comment on the video, with 24 upvotes... it reinforces everything I am saying in this thread! Perspective? Excellent word choice there, Captain.
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If it's M rated i'd rather a more mature story and not a cliche fantasy one.
So, you're telling me the first time you played Diablo in 1996, you were not even remotely surprised or frightened when the Butcher ambushed you? You're also telling me at in Diablo 3, the Butcher's time of appearance is less predictable than he is in Diablo 1? If you're not saying these things, your argument is weak for lack of evidence. If you are, your argument is weak for simply being incorrect. Regardless, you keep expanding on ideas that are in the background of the argument instead of the main point. I don't care if The Butcher became somewhat predictable after a while. My first impression was, "WOW, that is freaky!" Diablo 3 lacks that kind of content.
Diablo 3 is way more predictable and childish than the version that came out 16 years ago. Diablo 1 brought you into hell. Diablo 3 doesn't do anything Hellish. Though the team seems to have tried in some small way, it misses the mark on every level.
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I was there. You're simply embellishing the past as many do when they reminisce about the "good 'ole days". Nothing about that game was horrifying. Fun as hell for its time to be sure. Horrifying? Scary? Gory? Yeah right...give me a break
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Whatever... you and your pocket buddy there are alone. The game had a lot of symbolism. Burning upside down crosses, inverted pentacles. A little boy sacrificed to the devil. You can pretend the story wasn't there because it was short, but to say it wasn't scary for its time? Name something more scary. And no, resident evil 1 was not scary, it was a very cheesy game with bad acting, until they remade it years later.
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*in gaming*. The fact remains... while some say Diablo 1 wasn't scary in hindsight, 16 years later, it was still the most terrifying Dungeon crawler to ever exist. Diablo 3 is still the most childish dungeon crawler to ever exist. They changed the IP.
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Not my fault no one agrees with you. Should try being right some time and you won't have that problem. Does wonders...
You're going to say that about RE when you're going on and on about how "scary" Diablo was? Hahahahaha
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I disagree... as do several others in this thread and in the youtube video you posted. Diablo 3 isn't gory. A couple chunks of ham and some splotches of ketchup here and there? Pfft! Diablo 1 was had a gothic atmosphere of doom. It's widely talked about in reviews and impressions. If you disagree, that is fine, but if you think that people largely do not see a change in the IP, you're not reading enough. It's being talked about on the D3 site, on Amazon, on Metacritic, on Newegg, and most everywhere the game is discussed.
Diablo 1 gave some people nightmares. Deny it all you want. Back in my Army days I had friends who were scared to play it. It was like a Dungeon Crawler had a baby with Doom.
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Agreed. Blizzard never really intended the game to be scary either, it is about bashing in the heads of monsters, not scaring people.
Of course some people are more easily scared than others.
Personally I thought System shock 2 was a lot more creepier than Diablo, a lot more. I never even considered Diablo to be the least scary when I played it even if I do remember liking the butcher,.
Here is an exampe of "no one" for you:
http://www.cpugamer.com/reviews/diablo-iii-review
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4310031258
http://articles.software.informer.com/diablo_3_7_a_dirge_for_blizzard.html
http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/diablo-iii/41/really-liking-darkd3/548080/?page=2
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1135857-Diablo-3-atmosphere/page2
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?830124-Mixed-feelings-so-far-about-D3-Part-2-(minor-spoilers)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/ARRH43NQ0YT8H/ref=cm_cr_pr_auth_rev?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview
Yup, Diablo shouldn't be aiming for Dark/Gothic/Horror elements. You're right. "No one" agrees with me.
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Bash a corpse on a torture table and watch it get grinded up in the mechanism totally tearing the body apart in a explosion of blood. Constant death everywhere, caused by yourself. Demons and hell featured constantly.
These are not things kids should see. Kids will love it though.
In truth it's just as gory as the Saw films, you just don't get a view that is as close up. That's where your problem is; in the visual details. The games rating needs to consider the acts themselves though, regardless of how it looks.
If I show my daughter a video of someone suffocating another guy with a pillow, is that more acceptable than showing her a video of someone stabbing another guy?
He shouldnt have jumped the gun and said no one. But for the most part he is right, most people think it's fine. Unfortunately It didnt head where you wanted it, perhaps Diablo 4 will. Good luck!
Yeah.
How you can say this game is tame and has nothing compared to the original Diablo is simply baffling. There are countless examples you could give. Guess it simply isn't close or visceral enough for the OP.
Least not like the first one was
>_>
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.