Over the past couple of days, players have expressed concerns over the possibility of Battle.net® account compromises.First and foremost, we want to make it clear that the Battle.net and Diablo III servers have not been compromised. In addition, the number of Diablo III players who've contacted customer service to report a potential compromise of their personal account has been extremely small. In all of the individual Diablo III-related compromise cases we've investigated, none have occurred after a physical Battle.net Authenticator or Battle.net Mobile Authenticator app was attached to the player's account, and we have yet to find any situation where a Diablo III player's account was accessed outside of "traditional" compromise methods (i.e. someone logging using an account's login email and password).
Maybe just maybe it's because Blizzard is the ONLY company you played a game with Millions and Millions of players. I doubt hackers will have an interest in Whatever Online and their 5000 players.
You truly are another person that has no clue. Hackers hack "any" game regardless of how many people play it. To them it is a game. If you have not been around long, (which i am sure most of you have not), then you really have no understanding. You can take all of the safety precautions you need..those are never guaranteed.
People cheat, hack, exploit, and do whatever else they can in any game. Blizzard is targeted because they are "targetable".
One more thing, is it not unknown that quite a lot of people do not like Blizzard.. it stands that those people will do anything in their power to make them look bad regardless of whatever reason. I used to think Blizzard was okay until they went the $$$ way. I do not feel bad for them or anyone that has their accounts hacked etc. I don't play any of their games so I most likely will never have that issue
By the way, when those wow or diablo kids put links in chat, it would be very wise not to click on them. 50% of the time they are linked with keyloggers and various software that probes your computer. And yes, these programs bypass your firewall and virus scans. They are usually fake dll or exe ones. (The most typical at least).
As for you ITT techs, you are the most clueless. Your knowledge of internet security is a laugh. You always need to let others know that you are so good with these type of things, but yet, are the ones that get hacked. I guess it goes to show just how limited you are in your field
If you don't want to get hacked, lay off the porn and unsafe sites. Don't click on links just because a friend says it's okay. This has been said over and over again, the only thing keeping your computer safe is you.
Call the 1-800 number for battle.net support, listen to their message and then tell me again it's 100% users fault there is clearly something going on
There is a difference between there being a security issue on Blizzards side (which is theoretically possible) and your earlier claims that Blizzard was "hacking" their own users as part of a master plan to drive authenticator sales.
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Originally posted by CyclopsSlay I have to agree something is strange with battle.net. Just over a year ago I logged on to my long unused wow account, converted it to a battle net account, changed the pw, activated an authenticator, and logged off. Next day the account was hacked and banned, I run a clean firewalled system so long idle pirate ware is unlikely at most. Only point of vulnerability would be Blizzard itself.
Same here. Left during TBC for a deployment came back during Wrath and played for 2 days (the thursday and friday) and saturday mornig my account was hacked.
They wouldn't re-instate the account even after a faxed government ID.
So diablo 3 is the only game I own from them and will NEVER use the real money auction house. So in all reality they got their last penny from me, except maybe a d3 expansion.
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Well, and I don't buy in to the conspiracy of the OP at all, but thats a market in the region of 20kk to 40kk you're dismissing so out of hand.
Yes.. so factor in the costs to produce the authenticator, then store it, package it and ship it.
On the other side factor in the PR hit the company has taken and the likely impact not just on sales of Diablo 3 but also on WoW (new expansion on the way) and most importantly on their upcoming "Titan" MMO.
So yes, to propose that Blizzard intentionally sabotaged on of their billion dollar IPs to sell a $6 authenticator is ludicrous.
You can certainly argue that the security vulnerability is on Blizzards side. To argue that it is part of their master plan is just silly.
whoa, easy tiger...
I am not 'arguing' anything. Like I said, I don't buy in to the conspiracy theory here at all, I was just pointing out that there was a lot of money involved in those $6 validators you are being so flippent about.
I think you need to respond to what's said, rather then what you want to be have said.
Well, and I don't buy in to the conspiracy of the OP at all, but thats a market in the region of 20kk to 40kk you're dismissing so out of hand.
Yes.. so factor in the costs to produce the authenticator, then store it, package it and ship it.
On the other side factor in the PR hit the company has taken and the likely impact not just on sales of Diablo 3 but also on WoW (new expansion on the way) and most importantly on their upcoming "Titan" MMO.
So yes, to propose that Blizzard intentionally sabotaged on of their billion dollar IPs to sell a $6 authenticator is ludicrous.
You can certainly argue that the security vulnerability is on Blizzards side. To argue that it is part of their master plan is just silly.
whoa, easy tiger...
I am not 'arguing' anything. Like I said, I don't buy in to the conspiracy theory here at all, I was just pointing out that there was a lot of money involved in those $6 validators you are being so flippent about.
I think you need to respond to what's said, rather then what you want to be have said.
No, if YOU actually go back and read what you originally responded to, it was a response in context of saying that the company was "hacking" it's own players to drive it's $6 authenticator. Effectively jeopardizing it's billion dollar IPs to make theoretical single digit million dollar profits on an authenticator.
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Just because Blizzard dont know they have been hacked, doesnt mean they havent been hacked. It just shows their true incompetence. Saying their servers/systems are un-hackable is like a big red flag to most hackers out there. Just look at what happened to Sony
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Call the 1-800 number for battle.net support, listen to their message and then tell me again it's 100% users fault there is clearly something going on
There is a difference between there being a security issue on Blizzards side (which is theoretically possible) and your earlier claims that Blizzard was "hacking" their own users as part of a master plan to drive authenticator sales.
did u miss the part that when the servers came back online my account had been hacked? furthermore i find it very strange that if there were any spyware/keyloggers/ or anything else on my computer someone would be going after my diablo 3 account when they had access to all my personal finacial information. There is something goin on and if they are claiming a "very small" number of peoples accounts have been hacked why is the dial up customer support inundated with calls to the point that i have been unable to get through for a week, and their main message what it is?
Is it possible that someone sell others username, email name and password? For example I register at blablawowguide.com with the same password that I use in wow and then ppl behind blablawowguide.com sell info to goldsellers?
So your working theory here is that the company that sold something like a quarter of a billion dollars in sales on this game has a secret plan to hack everyone's accounts to steal your in game gold and sell it for $10 as gold farmers?
Hmmm...
Hmmm...
Err....
NO.
$10 X 500,000 = $5,000,000 I could see a server tech, GM, or even a small group of employees doing this is they thought they could get away with it. Would not be the first time Blizzard employees did something like that.
So your working theory here is that the company that sold something like a quarter of a billion dollars in sales on this game has a secret plan to hack everyone's accounts to steal your in game gold and sell it for $10 as gold farmers?
$10 X 500,000 = $5,000,000 I could see a server tech, GM, or even a small group of employees doing this is they thought they could get away with it. Would not be the first time Blizzard employees did something like that.
Hum, really? so when was the first time? Seriously people there are are some wild conspiracy theories in this thread. What next? Aliens stole my Account and sold it to Darth vader or he can fund his clone army?
Originally posted by kostoslav Is it possible that someone sell others username, email name and password? For example I register at blablawowguide.com with the same password that I use in wow and then ppl behind blablawowguide.com sell info to goldsellers?
Yes, this is likely.
And don't forget that alot of other wow/d3 related sites store your email and password as well. And some of them even have your email viewable by any member (mmo-champion used to do this by default, could be changed in user settings).
If a site like this or curse or mmo-champion or any diablo fansite would get all their user information compromised that is ALOT of emails and passwords ready to be tried. And I doubt they are anywhere near as secure as blizzards user info.
If you are a member on a diablo fansite it's likely you are playing diablo, and the chances are high that you are using the same email adress for both, or even the same email AND password. Tada thousands of emails and passwords to try.
There was alot of noise about hacking when they made you log in using your email address, and i believe this is the reason for that.
There are numerous possible reasons but I suspect the most basic reason for any hack is the prime suspect. Lots of lucrative targets. It's the same reason most Malmare effectsWindows based systems more often than Apple or Linux.
I have played tons of MMOs since EQ and I find it funny how I've never had a single account in any game except my trial account in WoW hacked/compromised. I'm not saying Blizzard is behind it, but it's about time all you fanbois realize that if it isn't them doing the hacking (which I dont believe for a minute) then there is something within battle net that allows it. Either way, Blizzard is to blame, not the players.
Don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
A major reason I don't play Blizzard games is due to being hacked so many times, they need to work harder, for games this high profile the risks are higher.
There are numerous possible reasons but I suspect the most basic reason for any hack is the prime suspect. Lots of lucrative targets. It's the same reason most Malmare effectsWindows based systems more often than Apple or Linux.
I wouldnt say "than apple" because right at the minute the iOS has a great big target painted on its back and under that are the words "Welcome". Apple PC's maybe cos thye have low market saturation but apple as a whole is struggling to stay ahead of trouble with iOS.
I suspect with the number of cases cropping up that blizzards system is at fault, could be Sony all over again only if Blizzard had had therir way with real ID the hackers would know pretty much everything they needed for ID theft as well.
There are numerous possible reasons but I suspect the most basic reason for any hack is the prime suspect. Lots of lucrative targets. It's the same reason most Malmare effectsWindows based systems more often than Apple or Linux.
I wouldnt say "than apple" because right at the minute the iOS has a great big target painted on its back and under that are the words "Welcome". Apple PC's maybe cos thye have low market saturation but apple as a whole is struggling to stay ahead of trouble with iOS.
I suspect with the number of cases cropping up that blizzards system is at fault, could be Sony all over again only if Blizzard had had therir way with real ID the hackers would know pretty much everything they needed for ID theft as well.
In this instance "Apple" in my statement referred to their desktops specifically because they don't hold the market share in that department. Nothing is "Hack-proof" is just a matter of time and effort. Even if Blizzard had the best protection in place (I kinda doubt it though) given it's market share it would be hacked and accounts stolen because it's lucrative.
As they sell them AT COST, this theory is clearly not correct.
OTHER game companies charge more for the authenticator, if you do a little research the authenticator company that makes Blizz's makes everyones authenticators, and they sell them in bulk, at a discount. So Blizz can sell them for the cheapest cus they buy up a large amount and resell them to their customers at cost.
Which has been stated multiple times, and if you really care to find out you could always go to the authenticator website and do some math yourself to figure it all out.
Remind me again how many men statistically watch porn? Because- "around 90 per cent of consumption was on the internet" due to article from telegraph.co.uk from 2009. But hell yeah my PC is clean 100% I used private browsing!
But in this days being able to blame Yourself is sadly rarity. And sadly part of good business practice is to nod to those sort of people and help, instead telling them to YKW(you know what). As result we have Blizzard hacking people to sell free apps on mobile phones.
What was the Enistain saying again - only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Using FREE mobile authenticator for like 4 years. No issues. Using special dedicated e-mail for b-net. Not a single phishing mail or viagra spam. And still I'd most likely start from blaming myself if I ever got hacked...
Originally posted by hellsnot Really? Selling at cost? That is laughable and so is shipping and handling its mailed in a damn envelope us postal service
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But the fact is no one with an authenticator has been hacked, all cases investigated by Blizzard had no authenticator.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149181449
Over the past couple of days, players have expressed concerns over the possibility of Battle.net® account compromises.First and foremost, we want to make it clear that the Battle.net and Diablo III servers have not been compromised. In addition, the number of Diablo III players who've contacted customer service to report a potential compromise of their personal account has been extremely small. In all of the individual Diablo III-related compromise cases we've investigated, none have occurred after a physical Battle.net Authenticator or Battle.net Mobile Authenticator app was attached to the player's account, and we have yet to find any situation where a Diablo III player's account was accessed outside of "traditional" compromise methods (i.e. someone logging using an account's login email and password).
You truly are another person that has no clue. Hackers hack "any" game regardless of how many people play it. To them it is a game. If you have not been around long, (which i am sure most of you have not), then you really have no understanding. You can take all of the safety precautions you need..those are never guaranteed.
People cheat, hack, exploit, and do whatever else they can in any game. Blizzard is targeted because they are "targetable".
One more thing, is it not unknown that quite a lot of people do not like Blizzard.. it stands that those people will do anything in their power to make them look bad regardless of whatever reason. I used to think Blizzard was okay until they went the $$$ way. I do not feel bad for them or anyone that has their accounts hacked etc. I don't play any of their games so I most likely will never have that issue
By the way, when those wow or diablo kids put links in chat, it would be very wise not to click on them. 50% of the time they are linked with keyloggers and various software that probes your computer. And yes, these programs bypass your firewall and virus scans. They are usually fake dll or exe ones. (The most typical at least).
As for you ITT techs, you are the most clueless. Your knowledge of internet security is a laugh. You always need to let others know that you are so good with these type of things, but yet, are the ones that get hacked. I guess it goes to show just how limited you are in your field
If you don't want to get hacked, lay off the porn and unsafe sites. Don't click on links just because a friend says it's okay. This has been said over and over again, the only thing keeping your computer safe is you.
Call the 1-800 number for battle.net support, listen to their message and then tell me again it's 100% users fault there is clearly something going on
There is a difference between there being a security issue on Blizzards side (which is theoretically possible) and your earlier claims that Blizzard was "hacking" their own users as part of a master plan to drive authenticator sales.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Same here. Left during TBC for a deployment came back during Wrath and played for 2 days (the thursday and friday) and saturday mornig my account was hacked.
They wouldn't re-instate the account even after a faxed government ID.
So diablo 3 is the only game I own from them and will NEVER use the real money auction house. So in all reality they got their last penny from me, except maybe a d3 expansion.
"Good, honorable gamers will continue to fit the bill for the poor and lower classed people. It's just a sign of the times." ~ Anonymous. Lakexeno.com
whoa, easy tiger...
I am not 'arguing' anything. Like I said, I don't buy in to the conspiracy theory here at all, I was just pointing out that there was a lot of money involved in those $6 validators you are being so flippent about.
I think you need to respond to what's said, rather then what you want to be have said.
No, if YOU actually go back and read what you originally responded to, it was a response in context of saying that the company was "hacking" it's own players to drive it's $6 authenticator. Effectively jeopardizing it's billion dollar IPs to make theoretical single digit million dollar profits on an authenticator.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Just because Blizzard dont know they have been hacked, doesnt mean they havent been hacked. It just shows their true incompetence. Saying their servers/systems are un-hackable is like a big red flag to most hackers out there. Just look at what happened to Sony
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
did u miss the part that when the servers came back online my account had been hacked? furthermore i find it very strange that if there were any spyware/keyloggers/ or anything else on my computer someone would be going after my diablo 3 account when they had access to all my personal finacial information. There is something goin on and if they are claiming a "very small" number of peoples accounts have been hacked why is the dial up customer support inundated with calls to the point that i have been unable to get through for a week, and their main message what it is?
$10 X 500,000 = $5,000,000 I could see a server tech, GM, or even a small group of employees doing this is they thought they could get away with it. Would not be the first time Blizzard employees did something like that.
Hum, really? so when was the first time? Seriously people there are are some wild conspiracy theories in this thread. What next? Aliens stole my Account and sold it to Darth vader or he can fund his clone army?
Yes, this is likely.
And don't forget that alot of other wow/d3 related sites store your email and password as well. And some of them even have your email viewable by any member (mmo-champion used to do this by default, could be changed in user settings).
If a site like this or curse or mmo-champion or any diablo fansite would get all their user information compromised that is ALOT of emails and passwords ready to be tried. And I doubt they are anywhere near as secure as blizzards user info.
If you are a member on a diablo fansite it's likely you are playing diablo, and the chances are high that you are using the same email adress for both, or even the same email AND password. Tada thousands of emails and passwords to try.
There was alot of noise about hacking when they made you log in using your email address, and i believe this is the reason for that.
No. Blizzard is just far more popular so they get the most attacks.
There are numerous possible reasons but I suspect the most basic reason for any hack is the prime suspect. Lots of lucrative targets. It's the same reason most Malmare effectsWindows based systems more often than Apple or Linux.
I wouldnt say "than apple" because right at the minute the iOS has a great big target painted on its back and under that are the words "Welcome". Apple PC's maybe cos thye have low market saturation but apple as a whole is struggling to stay ahead of trouble with iOS.
I suspect with the number of cases cropping up that blizzards system is at fault, could be Sony all over again only if Blizzard had had therir way with real ID the hackers would know pretty much everything they needed for ID theft as well.
In this instance "Apple" in my statement referred to their desktops specifically because they don't hold the market share in that department. Nothing is "Hack-proof" is just a matter of time and effort. Even if Blizzard had the best protection in place (I kinda doubt it though) given it's market share it would be hacked and accounts stolen because it's lucrative.
As they sell them AT COST, this theory is clearly not correct.
OTHER game companies charge more for the authenticator, if you do a little research the authenticator company that makes Blizz's makes everyones authenticators, and they sell them in bulk, at a discount. So Blizz can sell them for the cheapest cus they buy up a large amount and resell them to their customers at cost.
Which has been stated multiple times, and if you really care to find out you could always go to the authenticator website and do some math yourself to figure it all out.
OR you could continue to enjoy that tin foil hat.
Remind me again how many men statistically watch porn? Because- "around 90 per cent of consumption was on the internet" due to article from telegraph.co.uk from 2009. But hell yeah my PC is clean 100% I used private browsing!
But in this days being able to blame Yourself is sadly rarity. And sadly part of good business practice is to nod to those sort of people and help, instead telling them to YKW(you know what). As result we have Blizzard hacking people to sell free apps on mobile phones.
What was the Enistain saying again - only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Using FREE mobile authenticator for like 4 years. No issues. Using special dedicated e-mail for b-net. Not a single phishing mail or viagra spam. And still I'd most likely start from blaming myself if I ever got hacked...
You can get them FREE just check here:
http://itunes.apple.com/app/battle.net-mobile-authenticator/id306862897?mt=8
http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/13011/
and prolly more phones that I'm not bothered too look for.
Of course not. Did you actually expect them to?