people only start caring when its women or children being killed in video games. Heck they tried to ban resident evil because too many black people were being killed,
I am not bothered by it because it isn't real, It's a game. I've played many vioent games in my life and managed to get through it without becoming an axe murderer. If you don't like violent games, don't buy them. Leave the rest of us to enjoy them.
I could care less about the violence in games. But why do developers find it necessary to include as much violence as possible?
It seems more people want violence than people who don't.
Bothered? Nah. I play a lot of violent games, kind of used to. However....there was a lot of violence at E3, regardless if you were bothered by it or not. I read the RPS editorial (sorry if it's been linked, didn't read whole thread) about it and the author did kind of have a point, even if he was rambling a bit.
Gameological society counted in the Microsoft and Sony press conference about 218 characters died total over the two conferences... (About 1 and some zombies died in nintendo's)
I will not play a game with a cash shop ever again. A dev job should be to make the game better not make me pay so it sucks less.
I can not be the only one who thought the violence was over the top.I start watching the press conference of Microsoft and the first thing I see is someone getting killed.So I think ok.....so next they show Tomb Raider, 20 seconds in and Lara Croft stabs someone in the throat and blood splatters everywhere........
Nice! Where can I watch this?
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Didn't know it was such a big deal. Guess our society likes these kinds of games. Also which Nintendo game killed someone? I saw ZombiU where they killed the Zombies.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Video games, movies (G-XXX), music... are all emotional outlets of the subconsciously frustrated proletariat. For some, complete media immersion makes working 50 years for a mediocre pension and a destroyed body for some corporate leech almost bearable.
Society has merely supplanted one God (Biblical) for another (carnal satiety).
I can not be the only one who thought the violence was over the top.
I start watching the press conference of Microsoft and the first thing I see is someone getting killed.
So I think ok.....so next they show Tomb Raider, 20 seconds in and Lara Croft stabs someone in the throat and blood splatters everywhere.
.......
It's a problem with Western society as a whole - our media (movies and video games, at least) is obsessed with sex and violance to an unhealthy degree.
The former is due (in my opinion) mainly because of focus on sexual repression derived from religious pressure. The latter, I'm not really sure where that comes from.
The United States is the top producer of video pornography. Notable video pornography producers in the United States include Vivid Entertainment, Hustler, Playboy, Wicked Pictures and Red Light District. Brazil comes in second for video pornography production, facilitated by companies like Frenesi Films, Pau Brazil and MarcoStudio.The United States is the top producer of pornographic web pages by far with 244,661,900 pages or 89 percent. Germany and the United Kingdom follow with 4 and 3 percent, respectively.
Top Video Porn Producers
Country
Major Producers
1. United States
Vivid Entertainment, Hustler, Playboy, Wicked Pictures, Red Light District
2. Brazil
Frenesi Films, Pau Brazil, MarcoStudio
3. The Netherlands
Erostream, Midhold Media, Your Choice, Seventeen
4. Spain
Private Media Group, Woodman Entertainment
5. Japan
Soft on Demand, Moodyz
6. Russia
Beate Uhse, SP-Company, Dolphin Entertainment
7. Germany
Trimax, SG-Video, GGG, VideoRama, Zip Production
8. United Kingdom
Hot Rod Productions, JoyBear Pictures, Blue Juice TV, Rude Britannia, Fresh SX
9. Canada
Wild Rose Productions, Eromodel Group, Dugmor
10. Australia
Pistol Media
Other Notables
Sweden
Maxs Video
Italy
Adamo Entertainment
Denmark
Color Climax Corporation
France
Euro Choc, Eil du Cochon, Ragtime, Video Marc Dorce, JTC Video, Colmax, Cadinot
Switzerland
Gordi Films, Ikarus
Belgium
GM Videos
Romania
Floyd-Agency
Portugal
Natural Video
Israel
Sex Style
Serbia
Hexor
Czech-Republic
Lupus Pictures, Bel Ami
Dumb post. You must not be from America, otherwise you'd understand exactly what he was talking about.
I can not be the only one who thought the violence was over the top.
I start watching the press conference of Microsoft and the first thing I see is someone getting killed.
So I think ok.....so next they show Tomb Raider, 20 seconds in and Lara Croft stabs someone in the throat and blood splatters everywhere.
.......
It's a problem with Western society as a whole - our media (movies and video games, at least) is obsessed with sex and violance to an unhealthy degree.
The former is due (in my opinion) mainly because of focus on sexual repression derived from religious pressure. The latter, I'm not really sure where that comes from.
It's not a problem, it's entertainment. Maybe if you like chick flix it might seem like a problem to you, guys like watching action and violence.
... but if in any game a character shows a little more skin then usually is censured... death with violence and alot of blood is ok, as long characters are not naked...
Crazy world
Your mean Crazy USA becouse showing a nipple your doomed, but slithing throads with alot of blood and your settle with a huge bank account:D
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The United States is the top producer of video pornography. Notable video pornography producers in the United States include Vivid Entertainment, Hustler, Playboy, Wicked Pictures and Red Light District. Brazil comes in second for video pornography production, facilitated by companies like Frenesi Films, Pau Brazil and MarcoStudio.The United States is the top producer of pornographic web pages by far with 244,661,900 pages or 89 percent. Germany and the United Kingdom follow with 4 and 3 percent, respectively.
Top Video Porn Producers
Country
Major Producers
1. United States
Vivid Entertainment, Hustler, Playboy, Wicked Pictures, Red Light District
2. Brazil
Frenesi Films, Pau Brazil, MarcoStudio
3. The Netherlands
Erostream, Midhold Media, Your Choice, Seventeen
4. Spain
Private Media Group, Woodman Entertainment
5. Japan
Soft on Demand, Moodyz
6. Russia
Beate Uhse, SP-Company, Dolphin Entertainment
7. Germany
Trimax, SG-Video, GGG, VideoRama, Zip Production
8. United Kingdom
Hot Rod Productions, JoyBear Pictures, Blue Juice TV, Rude Britannia, Fresh SX
9. Canada
Wild Rose Productions, Eromodel Group, Dugmor
10. Australia
Pistol Media
Other Notables
Sweden
Maxs Video
Italy
Adamo Entertainment
Denmark
Color Climax Corporation
France
Euro Choc, Eil du Cochon, Ragtime, Video Marc Dorce, JTC Video, Colmax, Cadinot
Switzerland
Gordi Films, Ikarus
Belgium
GM Videos
Romania
Floyd-Agency
Portugal
Natural Video
Israel
Sex Style
Serbia
Hexor
Czech-Republic
Lupus Pictures, Bel Ami
Dumb post. You must not be from America, otherwise you'd understand exactly what he was talking about.
Besides the fact if i agree with porn on huge scale or not at least netherlands its no issue at all we can swear, curse or showing naked people on national television without any uprise or censorship its all aloud on national television without any objection.
I read several US sites and im stunned, even sometimes shocked how silly US are handeling sex with showing naked even smallest parts of body(nipples)or sex its beyond rediculous manytimes lol. Not to mention the beeps in shows we in holland have NON.
Freedom of speech you don't have in US:P
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There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Originally posted by Slampig And as far as parents and others that blame games and movies and music for the stupid shit their kids do, take a more active role in raising your kids. Pretty simple stuff. Kid shoots up a school and people are so eager to blame media of one sort or another, first place I look is the parents...
But then people would have to give up their careers to actually BE with their children that they "would do ANYTHING for." (...except give up careers and lifestyles and actually give them time and attention.)
/sarcasm
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
I just got finished reading about a man in Berlin chopping his potentially pregnant wife up in front of his kids and tossing her body parts over the balcony at neighbors in the name of religion.
Who cares about video game violence? Priorities.
It's not about video game violence, its about how society is more accepting of violence than sex.
It really depends on where you live in the US as well. Those red states are a bit goofy but things are much more laid back on say the west coast.
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I will play no more MMORPGs until somethign good comes out!
I have heard from multiple sources that this year's e3 was really violent. As a fan of ultra-violence, I take this as good news. The average age of gamers is what? 35? I think it's high time for the industry to stop trying to hold our hands and treat us like preschoolers. Ultra violence? Bring it on!
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Originally posted by Souldrainer I have heard from multiple sources that this year's e3 was really violent. As a fan of ultra-violence, I take this as good news. The average age of gamers is what? 35? I think it's high time for the industry to stop trying to hold our hands and treat us like preschoolers. Ultra violence? Bring it on!
Violence is more often a sign of immaturity rather than maturity. I would expect the average gamer to appreciate deeper and more complex gameplay as they age, rather than violence, instant gratification, and shaking body parts (which caters more to the teenage market).
Originally posted by Souldrainer I have heard from multiple sources that this year's e3 was really violent. As a fan of ultra-violence, I take this as good news. The average age of gamers is what? 35? I think it's high time for the industry to stop trying to hold our hands and treat us like preschoolers. Ultra violence? Bring it on!
Violence is more often a sign of immaturity rather than maturity. I would expect the average gamer to appreciate deeper and more complex gameplay as they age, rather than violence, instant gratification, and shaking body parts (which caters more to the teenage market).
Which studies show this? As far as I have seen, violence and maturity are neither inclusive nor exclusive of each other, but that is simply life experience.
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good point
Non violence you say?
There, something to untwist those knotted panties.
I could care less about the violence in games. But why do developers find it necessary to include as much violence as possible?
It seems more people want violence than people who don't.
Bothered? Nah. I play a lot of violent games, kind of used to. However....there was a lot of violence at E3, regardless if you were bothered by it or not. I read the RPS editorial (sorry if it's been linked, didn't read whole thread) about it and the author did kind of have a point, even if he was rambling a bit.
Violence grabs your attention. And it sells!
Gameological society counted in the Microsoft and Sony press conference about 218 characters died total over the two conferences... (About 1 and some zombies died in nintendo's)
I will not play a game with a cash shop ever again. A dev job should be to make the game better not make me pay so it sucks less.
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Didn't know it was such a big deal. Guess our society likes these kinds of games. Also which Nintendo game killed someone? I saw ZombiU where they killed the Zombies.
A related article:
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/172088/From_the_Editor_E3_2012__The_E3_of_Disillusion.php
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Video games, movies (G-XXX), music... are all emotional outlets of the subconsciously frustrated proletariat. For some, complete media immersion makes working 50 years for a mediocre pension and a destroyed body for some corporate leech almost bearable.
Society has merely supplanted one God (Biblical) for another (carnal satiety).
It's a problem with Western society as a whole - our media (movies and video games, at least) is obsessed with sex and violance to an unhealthy degree.
The former is due (in my opinion) mainly because of focus on sexual repression derived from religious pressure. The latter, I'm not really sure where that comes from.
Dumb post. You must not be from America, otherwise you'd understand exactly what he was talking about.
It's not a problem, it's entertainment. Maybe if you like chick flix it might seem like a problem to you, guys like watching action and violence.
Your mean Crazy USA becouse showing a nipple your doomed, but slithing throads with alot of blood and your settle with a huge bank account:D
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Besides the fact if i agree with porn on huge scale or not at least netherlands its no issue at all we can swear, curse or showing naked people on national television without any uprise or censorship its all aloud on national television without any objection.
I read several US sites and im stunned, even sometimes shocked how silly US are handeling sex with showing naked even smallest parts of body(nipples)or sex its beyond rediculous manytimes lol. Not to mention the beeps in shows we in holland have NON.
Freedom of speech you don't have in US:P
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In Germany its just the other way around. Sex is okay, violence no. We even have boobs in commercials for shower products in the daytime.
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There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Seriously Lawled at that one, thank you.
/sarcasm
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
It really depends on where you live in the US as well. Those red states are a bit goofy but things are much more laid back on say the west coast.
Are you a Pavlovian Fish Biscuit Addict? Get Help Now!
I will play no more MMORPGs until somethign good comes out!
edit: Ok, I wanted to add the Warren Spector interview, but I see there is already a thread about it.
Sorry about that, I tend to read threads by clicking "watch" in the side pannel often times before reading other threads.
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Violence is more often a sign of immaturity rather than maturity. I would expect the average gamer to appreciate deeper and more complex gameplay as they age, rather than violence, instant gratification, and shaking body parts (which caters more to the teenage market).
Violence is more often a sign of immaturity rather than maturity. I would expect the average gamer to appreciate deeper and more complex gameplay as they age, rather than violence, instant gratification, and shaking body parts (which caters more to the teenage market).
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