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  • NaqajNaqaj Member UncommonPosts: 1,673

    Guess i'll pass on this one ... 

  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505

    this better not be some cartoon graphics game grrr

     

  • Xin1Xin1 Member Posts: 34

    I can see this having succes. And for a mobile gaming market it could really as superior graphics aren't key.  Ultima 7 changed alot for me and i still consider it one of the best game i ever played.

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  • Zook81Zook81 Member Posts: 96

    Oh my lord.

    This is not a good way to start the day. I'm already getting a headache.

  • RednecksithRednecksith Member Posts: 1,238

    NO. N-O. NO NO NO NO NO.

    They can't just turn Ultima into some kiddie, cartoon aesthetic ARPG. This is fucking ULTIMA! The series that showed people just how deep CRPGs could be! For fuck's sake EA, show the franchise some goddamned respect! Was it just not enough for you to totally screw over fans of the series with 8 and especially 9? Or with that horrid Pay2Win browser game?

    I hope everyone involved with this project dies in a cancer fire. Immature and harsh I know, but I don't care. Fuck 'em. I'm tired of my favorite RPG series of all time getting routinely raped by money-grubbing assholes who care NOTHING for the series or its fans.

  • ZzadZzad Member UncommonPosts: 1,401

    So sad to see what Bioware has turned into....

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035
    Originally posted by Rednecksith

    NO. N-O. NO NO NO NO NO.

    They can't just turn Ultima into some kiddie, cartoon aesthetic ARPG. This is fucking ULTIMA!

    The worst part is when kids that are completely new to the franchise try it out and use it as a point of reference as to why they like the series, and that all other/older versions are shit.

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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642

    just... wow...

  • KhrymsonKhrymson Member UncommonPosts: 3,090

     

    Way to go EA, you've already ruined Ultima Online, now you go and let Bioware of all devs touch the license. {have ya not noticed how horribly they ruined the SW license...good grief!}  I bet Garriott is flopping around like a fish right now...ridiculous!

     

     

  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460

    I have a baaaad feeling about this :(

    Lady British? What the hell?

    This said, Bioware made the amazing Neverwinter Nights - they may have another strike of genius?

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  • Arkangel32Arkangel32 Member UncommonPosts: 83

    I guess I will try beta in hopes they actually stay true to the gameplay... I do not see how they will be able to.  Times have changed, people want the WOW factor...

  • BrainDeadGBrainDeadG Member Posts: 30

    Huh what happened to ULTIMA!?

    I remember it had some dark looking graphics and it was one of the few games that invented the word "Griefing".

     

    Now it looks like casual kiddified Disney trash...the game-industry is making a mockery of older titles.

     

    All for that casual bang and buck. It's becoming more clearer and clearer that the game industries are just selling out all the old-school geek and gamers who knew what the word "Gaming" meant back in the day and turning gaming into a cheap Mcdonalds facade.

     

    So does the new Ultima come with a Happy-Meal side order?

  • WarmakerWarmaker Member UncommonPosts: 2,246

    I LOL'ed when I read the article.  I forgot for a long time who even had the rights for the "Ultima" name, and apparently it's in the worst hands it can possibly in, EA, with a developer that, IMO, has lost its touch in developing RPGs long ago.

    I wonder what lessons BioWare learned from their once unassailable, set-on-a-pedestal, but now troubled KOTOR.

    "I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)

  • BrainDeadGBrainDeadG Member Posts: 30

    Ultima was around the same time the game Kingdom of the Seven Winds was under Nexon before the split. Maybe a year or two difference.

     

    Back in the day. The good ol 1990's generation!

     

    Both were the meaning of what online rpg meant.

     

    Now look at it. Ewwwww.

  • bunnyhopperbunnyhopper Member CommonPosts: 2,751
    Originally posted by bossalinie
    Originally posted by Rednecksith
     

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    As bad as the end of that post was, no, the reason devs don't take MMORPG gamers seriously is because they willingly lap up and pay for any crap the devs turn out. Then jump to the next new, shinier pile of crap.

     

    As for the game, tragic really is all that needs to be said. Bioware are rapidly turning into a joke.

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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    Originally posted by bossalinie
    Originally posted by Rednecksith

    NO. N-O. NO NO NO NO NO.

    They can't just turn Ultima into some kiddie, cartoon aesthetic ARPG. This is fucking ULTIMA! The series that showed people just how deep CRPGs could be! For fuck's sake EA, show the franchise some goddamned respect! Was it just not enough for you to totally screw over fans of the series with 8 and especially 9? Or with that horrid Pay2Win browser game?

    I hope everyone involved with this project dies in a cancer fire. Immature and harsh I know, but I don't care. Fuck 'em. I'm tired of my favorite RPG series of all time getting routinely raped by money-grubbing assholes who care NOTHING for the series or its fans.

    [mod edit]

    You don't like his grammar and curse words yet you insult him the same way he insults EA. He has a right to be mad in my opinion. Just as I thought we were about to be over the horizon and start seeing some quality games come out, something like this happens, and makes me throw up a little bit in my mouth. EA does not deserve to have the rights to the Ultima name. They just disgrace it like they do everything else.

  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005

    WOW! EA have been sitting on one if not the greatest MMORPG IP ever created for 15 years, and this is what they came up with? I wonder if the people that make decisions over there live in some sort of bubble completely detached from the real world.

    Baffled!

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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    Odd... this is actually supposed to be embargoed until 9am EDT. I guess Kotaku isn't held to the same rules as the rest of us. Our preview is coming shortly. ;)

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  • maplestonemaplestone Member UncommonPosts: 3,099

    That visceral "this isn't my Ultima" reaction gets to what I was trying to say back in my thread about permanence.

    In MMO properties, the IP is no longer just about words and names - it's carried in that weight of history that players have contributed.  If people don't see that history reflected in the IP, they won't recognize it as the same IP.

    That said, I'm not sure what sort of Ultima game the community would actually accept at this point - the memories are so over the map and contradictory to each other.

  • maplestonemaplestone Member UncommonPosts: 3,099
    Originally posted by BartDaCat

    Lady British?!?!?

    A quirk of ownership and role-playing means that Richard Garriott kept ownership of the rights to the character of Lord British - EA can't use him.

  • jpnzjpnz Member Posts: 3,529
    Originally posted by Xobdnas

    It official bioware is the michael bay of mmo companies.

    Except it isn't 'Bioware' bioware.

    It is 'Bioware Mythic' aka 'EA Mythic' who made DAOC / WarH.

    You could say EA is the Michael Bay of video games but EA also made Alice Madness Returns which is probably the top 3 'Video Game is Art' example. vOv

    I'm still scratching my head on what the heck this is but guess there will be previews and such coming out soon.

    One of my friends who plays UO is really upset at this and worried this might be a reason to shut down UO.

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  • dave6660dave6660 Member UncommonPosts: 2,699

    Is there any chance this is a joke?

    “There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.”
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  • KhrymsonKhrymson Member UncommonPosts: 3,090
    Originally posted by dave6660

    Is there any chance this is a joke?

     

    Apparently not, there is a new interview of sorts about it posted on Kotaku with Paul Barnett of all people.  This is the defining quote in that article that sums up how bad this is gonna fail!

     

    "Every generation deserves an Ultima," Barnett declared grandly, "And we're giving this generation the best BioWare Ultima that we can."

     

    Bioware's best died long ago, but EA is determined for one last go at further destroying the name of such a grand RPG series!

     

  • AdamTMAdamTM Member Posts: 1,376

    Hey EA, how is it working out for you since you announced Ultima Forever?

    http://www.google.com/finance?cid=168725

    Oh...

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  • maplestonemaplestone Member UncommonPosts: 3,099
    Originally posted by AdamTM

    Hey EA, how is it working out for you since you announced Ultima Forever?

    You're not seriously expecting one small game in one corner of this giant sprawling organization to be responsible for that are  you?  That's schadenfreude of a high order.

    Right now, the big worry for EA appears to be what's happening in the console space - the delay in the appearance of the next generation of consoles appears to be causing a huge headache for a whole fleet of products in development.

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