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  • mrguderianmrguderian Member Posts: 7

    Having seen a million MMO releases end in the same way I don't expect much from GW2 even after playing the betas.

    It isn't sufficiently different to be an anything killer and I personally hope will be the last of an old MMORPG model that seems  to be dying a very inelegant death.

    On the bright side the game is a one time cost and will be worth at least dozens of hours of entertainment which beats most games these days and you can always go back and try it out again without having to pay anything(though I don't expect much to change between expansions).

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Originally posted by Vidir

    I bought the game and played some beta,but sofar I see nothing special with this game, ok, it looks good runs good but mostly boring quests and everythin you do is more or less same as you did the quest before. Ok I have only played till level 25 but why do they not make it fun? it is just plain boring.

    Why would anyone play to 25 if it is plain boring?  

    If you played, you played as a WoW fanboi and used it's mentality ust to level. I have played every BWE and the stress tests and only got to level 19. I'm not saying you didn't play but I'm calling you out on how you played.

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Vidir

    I bought the game and played some beta,but sofar I see nothing special with this game, ok, it looks good runs good but mostly boring quests and everythin you do is more or less same as you did the quest before. Ok I have only played till level 25 but why do they not make it fun? it is just plain boring.

    Why would anyone play to 25 if it is plain boring?  

    If you played, you played as a WoW fanboi and used it's mentality to just to level. I have played every BWE and the stress tests and only got to level 19. I'm not saying you didn't play but I'm calling you out on how you played.

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    With the genre and a game with this ridiculous level of hype - it's natural to want to play for a good while, so you can be sure you're not missing all that greatness everyone is talking about.

    Heck, I played TOR to level 50 - because I wanted to finish the story which was middling but OK - but I never enjoyed the actual gameplay much.

  • ReskaillevReskaillev Member CommonPosts: 157
    Originally posted by DKLond
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Vidir

    I bought the game and played some beta,but sofar I see nothing special with this game, ok, it looks good runs good but mostly boring quests and everythin you do is more or less same as you did the quest before. Ok I have only played till level 25 but why do they not make it fun? it is just plain boring.

    Why would anyone play to 25 if it is plain boring?  

    If you played, you played as a WoW fanboi and used it's mentality to just to level. I have played every BWE and the stress tests and only got to level 19. I'm not saying you didn't play but I'm calling you out on how you played.

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    With the genre and a game with this ridiculous level of hype - it's natural to want to play for a good while, so you can be sure you're not missing all that greatness everyone is talking about.

    Heck, I played TOR to level 50 - because I wanted to finish the story which was middling but OK - but I never enjoyed the actual gameplay much.

    It really isn't a bunch of bullshit,

    Half an hour with any game and I would be able to tell you if it is good in my opinion.

    If the foundations supporting all this "greatness" are whack, then I won't bother with the game, simple as that..

    "Isn't a raid plundering villages in WoW or something like that?" - Robert Desable

  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Originally posted by Reskaillev
    Originally posted by DKLond
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Vidir

    I bought the game and played some beta,but sofar I see nothing special with this game, ok, it looks good runs good but mostly boring quests and everythin you do is more or less same as you did the quest before. Ok I have only played till level 25 but why do they not make it fun? it is just plain boring.

    Why would anyone play to 25 if it is plain boring?  

    If you played, you played as a WoW fanboi and used it's mentality to just to level. I have played every BWE and the stress tests and only got to level 19. I'm not saying you didn't play but I'm calling you out on how you played.

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    With the genre and a game with this ridiculous level of hype - it's natural to want to play for a good while, so you can be sure you're not missing all that greatness everyone is talking about.

    Heck, I played TOR to level 50 - because I wanted to finish the story which was middling but OK - but I never enjoyed the actual gameplay much.

    It really isn't a bunch of bullshit,

    Half an hour with any game and I would be able to tell you if it is good in my opinion.

    If the foundations supporting all this "greatness" are whack, then I won't bother with the game, simpel as that..

    Half an hour with a new and supposedly different MMO in BETA and you know for certain if it's going to be any good at relase?

    You're a liar - and I have no time for liars.

  • SiveriaSiveria Member UncommonPosts: 1,421

    Nothing really is special about GW2 its just the newest wow-clone themepark on the market, only unique thing to it I guess is the fact there is no monthly fee, other than that its just a fairly generic themepark mmo.

    A mmo to really look out for is The Repopulation, if they deliver what they promise its going to be amazeing. It has 2 combat modes, your generic mmo combat like gw2, rift etc, and then a action mode where its more of a fps/third person shooter style, and you can swap between the 2 at will. It has alot of other neat features too check it out: http://www.therepopulation.com/index.php

    The Repopulation sounds like a mmorpg thats finally going to be diffrent from the slew of wow-cloned themeparks we been having rammed down our throats since wow's release. I been waiting years for this. Also I just found out about The Repop yesterday and it sounds more promising than any other mmo was in the last 6 years. Assuming the devs deliver.

    Also a question.. why do people assume the mmo is going to be any diffrent at release from beta? 9 times out of 10 it really is no diffrent in terms of its core gameplay mechanics and such. Now if the game was a year+ from release then yes the retail could be diffrent than the beta, but GW2 comes out in a month (i think anyway), so the game is not going to differ majorly between now and release. Please.. stop using "it's a beta" as an excuse. If he/she thinks the game is boring now, its going to be no diffrent when its released, because the core gameplay and mechanics won't be changing at this close to release.

    Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

    A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

    or

    B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

    Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  • AdiarisAdiaris Member CommonPosts: 381
    Originally posted by Siveria

    Nothing really is special about GW2 its just the newest wow-clone themepark on the market, only unique thing to it I guess is the fact there is no monthly fee, other than that its just a fairly generic themepark mmo.

    A mmo to really look out for is The Repopulation, if they deliver what they promise its going to be amazeing. It has 2 combat modes, your generic mmo combat like gw2, rift etc, and then a action mode where its more of a fps/third person shooter style, and you can swap between the 2 at will. It has alot of other neat features too check it out: http://www.therepopulation.com/index.php

    The Repopulation sounds like a mmorpg thats finally going to be diffrent from the slew of wow-cloned themeparks we been having rammed down our throats since wow's release. I been waiting years for this. Also I just found out about The Repop yesterday and it sounds more promising than any other mmo was in the last 6 years. Assuming the devs deliver.

    While I'm an absolute believer in freedom of speech and choice I must say that equating GW2 to a wow-clone is beyond ludicrous. It's great if you don't like it but your staments are just objectively false or the product of some extremeley superficial reasoning. 

  • FredomSekerZFredomSekerZ Member Posts: 1,156
    Originally posted by Reskaillev
    Originally posted by DKLond
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Vidir

    It really isn't a bunch of bullshit,

    Half an hour with any game and I would be able to tell you if it is good in my opinion.

    If the foundations supporting all this "greatness" are whack, then I won't bother with the game, simple as that..

    Then why is everyone so annoyed when somebody only play the starter areas? They always say "Get off the starter area. Hearts aren't dynamic events. It's not so easy. It's gets harder beyond that, etc, etc".

  • ReskaillevReskaillev Member CommonPosts: 157
    Originally posted by DKLond

    Half an hour with a new and supposedly different MMO in BETA and you know for certain if it's going to be any good at relase?

    You're a liar - and I have no time for liars.

    I didn't say it's gonna be good at release -_-

    I said that if I play a Beta of a new mmorpg and it doesn't catch my interest in the first half hour I won't bother with it. If an mmo gets through this "preliminary" round It can still fall flat on it's face

    My point being that determinating a WoW-clone doesn't really take that long and if I don't get some enjoyment out of the first 30 minutes, I'll most likely never get any ejoyment out of it.

     

    "Isn't a raid plundering villages in WoW or something like that?" - Robert Desable

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Originally posted by DKLond
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Vidir

    I bought the game and played some beta,but sofar I see nothing special with this game, ok, it looks good runs good but mostly boring quests and everythin you do is more or less same as you did the quest before. Ok I have only played till level 25 but why do they not make it fun? it is just plain boring.

    Why would anyone play to 25 if it is plain boring?  

    If you played, you played as a WoW fanboi and used it's mentality to just to level. I have played every BWE and the stress tests and only got to level 19. I'm not saying you didn't play but I'm calling you out on how you played.

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    With the genre and a game with this ridiculous level of hype - it's natural to want to play for a good while, so you can be sure you're not missing all that greatness everyone is talking about.

    Heck, I played TOR to level 50 - because I wanted to finish the story which was middling but OK - but I never enjoyed the actual gameplay much.

    I do not believe my opinion is "bullshit". What may be however, is your ability to understand how far into something you should play before it is boring to you. It doesn't take to long to understand something unless you are playing it from the back of a little yellow bus.

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • oupslililolooupslililolo Member Posts: 23
    Originally posted by Derpybird
    Originally posted by tabindex

    What's so amazing? Are you kidding me?  Everybody wins the grand prize!  Everybody is the hero!  Everybody gets to dps, heal, and have the best gear!  Everybody gets to play a character in which not only does reputation not matter, but it doesn't even exist!

     

    Tell me what's not amazing about that!

     

    :(

     

    Getting your self-esteem boost by standing in a main city posing with the best of the best that drops in that tier's gear grind?

    Is that more amazing?

    :)

    Yes cause i worked hard to get these and nothing was given to me for free

  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273

    I wouldn't really call GW2 a WoW-clone as such.

    It's more like a themepark MMO with quite limited vertical progression and an emphasis on dynamic events over the traditional quest structure. Also, they've taken the trinity away and supposedly replaced it with... something that I've yet to experience.

    Lots of neat features - but nothing that would keep my attention for long. I despise the PvP approach - and I do like my power carrot - even if I prefer less stretching of content than is the norm.

  • ReskaillevReskaillev Member CommonPosts: 157
    Originally posted by FredomSekerZ

    Then why is everyone so annoyed when somebody only play the starter areas? They always say "Get off the starter area. Hearts aren't dynamic events. It's not so easy. It's gets harder beyond that, etc, etc".

    Because they come here with the thought that hearts ARE dynamic events, which they really aren't.

    They come here bashing the "dynamic" system, while they are instead bashing the hearts and that is why we get annoyed.

     

    If their mindset is to rush to levelcap by only using hearts, they are playing the wrong game and gw2 really isn't for them.

     

    "Isn't a raid plundering villages in WoW or something like that?" - Robert Desable

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by DKLond

     I despise the PvP approach - and I do like my power carrot - even if I prefer less stretching of content than is the norm.

    you never have to PVP at all in GW2

    im playing GW2 for the PVE

  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    Originally posted by DaezAster

    If you played to level 25 being bored the whole time it sounds like you didn't want to like it and played just to complain after. I have never finished a plate of food I don't like and that is basically the whole plate they served for bwe.

    Wow. I would have thought we'd have moved past these kinds of "arbitrarily conditional requirements" type arguments by now.

    If the OP came in here and said he played to level 10 and found it boring, he'd have been told 'Oh, level 10 is not nearly enough to have such a strong opinion about it. You're just trolling".

    In this case, it's the opposite, "Oh, there's no way you would play to level 25 if you were bored". There's other variations on that of course "Why would you play a game for that long if you don't like it? You're just trolling" being the most common. Another one being "Oh, if you were bored, then you obviously didn't do "x", "y" and "z", which means you didn't even touch most of the game. So your opinion means nothing. You're just trolling".

    Another, less common one being, "There's no way you played this game if that's your opinion, because that's not what I think of it. I don't think you played at all. You're just trolling". The classic "there's no way other people's opinions can legitimately be different than mine" attitude.

     

    It's very simple. Different people will play different games for as long or as little as they feel they want to. Maybe they're trying to like it and waiting for that "something" that others like about it to "click". Maybe they're expecting the common "the game gets better after level "x" thing that comes up with many MMOs. Maybe they're just really freakin' stubborn.

    Whatever their reasons, they experience what they experience and they voice their opinions on that experience. Do some exaggerate or make things up? Probably. But you can't prove it one way or the other unless you're there with them while they're playing, in game or in person. So trying to "pin them down", or throw them in some convenient categorical box only makes you look presumptuous and intolerant of a differing opinion.

    Honestly, from an outsider point-of-view, all I see are people doing their best to diffuse or dismiss an opinion that isn't in line with their own. It happens all the time around here (and elsewhere), and it's never convincing.

    Disagree all day long. Ask for specific reasons why they felt that way. Share your own experiences in response. But really, there's no point in trying to "prove the OP wrong". It makes you look far worse than you might think it makes them look. They're just sharing an opinion. You're trying to tear them down for it.

  • VorchVorch Member UncommonPosts: 793

    I will assume that the OP is genuine in his inquisition.

    Here's 20 reasons that I personally like GW2. The game isn't perfect, but it hits all the right buttons for me, and I hope that you and others can find something you enjoy.

    Combat

    5. No dedicated Healer

    4. Low player cap on dungeons ensures everyone MUST do their part to succeed

    3. Professions able to adapt to change their role on the fly

    2. Skill, not gear grind, is the major determinant of success of failure

    1. Movement and position based combat

     

    Crafting/Gathering

    5. Collectible storage ensures that you have plenty  of inventory space.

    4. Gathering requires that you explore the world as materials can be exclusive to certain zones

    3. Can go from 1-80 from crafting alone (provided you have the materials)

    2. People can share nodes

    1. Crafting provides items that are actually useful

     

    Gameplay

    5. Heart quest hubs for those stuck in their old ways

    4. Achievements that do not offer statistical bonuses, but still offer titles.

    3. Player encouraged to help others instead of being discouraged by the presence of others.

    2. Multiple things to do at ALL times from level 1: W v W, sPvP, PvE, minigames, crafting/gathering, etc.

    1. DEs reward exploration

     

    Design

    5. Attention to detail: from gravestones being readable, to conversations amoungst NPCs, to very little copy-pasta environments

    4. One of the best dye systems in gaming

    3. Musical score by Jeremy Soule

    2. Beautiful art that you are walking and playing in, not just looking at.

    1. Expansive world that requires exploration to delve into lore

     

    I hope that when you return, you take a breath and experience the world. Play the game like an RPG and not a typical MMO; if you are playing to get to max level, you are doing it wrong.

    I'm sure you'll find something that you like.

    "As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days— those are now the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2

  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Originally posted by Reskaillev
    Originally posted by DKLond

    Half an hour with a new and supposedly different MMO in BETA and you know for certain if it's going to be any good at relase?

    You're a liar - and I have no time for liars.

    I didn't say it's gonna be good at release -_-

    I said that if I play a Beta of a new mmorpg and it doesn't catch my interest in the first half hour I won't bother with it. If an mmo gets through this "preliminary" round It can still fall flat on it's face

    My point being that determinating a WoW-clone doesn't really take that long and if I don't get some enjoyment out of the first 30 minutes, I'll most likely never get any ejoyment out of it.

     

    Now, that's a much more reasonable wording.

    However, people are different and some take a LONG time before making up their minds about games. That's completely normal.

    I'm a gamer with 30 years of experience - and I've played almost all the established MMOs out there. It still took me 20-30 hours of playing GW2 beta to fully understand that it most likely isn't for me. I didn't "feel" it at any point - but I figured it would only be fair to give it a chance.

    That said, I still intend to play this last beta - just so I can be absolutely sure. That's also because I'm human and I've been wrong about games before. I'd rather give it another chance than rely on being flawless in my judgment.

  • rounnerrounner Member UncommonPosts: 725

    'Jump through this firey hoop or you're wrong' always works.

  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by DKLond

     I despise the PvP approach - and I do like my power carrot - even if I prefer less stretching of content than is the norm.

    you never have to PVP at all in GW2

    im playing GW2 for the PVE

    I never said I needed to play it. Just that I despise the approach.

    I think the PvE was really "meh" and I can't see myself playing the game long-term for that reason alone.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Originally posted by Vorch

     

    I hope that when you return, you take a breath and experience the world. Play the game like an RPG and not a typical MMO; if you are playing to get to max level, you are doing it wrong.

    I'm sure you'll find something that you like.

    +1. Yes, play it like an RPG was meant to be played. :)

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by DKLond
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Vidir

    I bought the game and played some beta,but sofar I see nothing special with this game, ok, it looks good runs good but mostly boring quests and everythin you do is more or less same as you did the quest before. Ok I have only played till level 25 but why do they not make it fun? it is just plain boring.

    Why would anyone play to 25 if it is plain boring?  

    If you played, you played as a WoW fanboi and used it's mentality to just to level. I have played every BWE and the stress tests and only got to level 19. I'm not saying you didn't play but I'm calling you out on how you played.

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    With the genre and a game with this ridiculous level of hype - it's natural to want to play for a good while, so you can be sure you're not missing all that greatness everyone is talking about.

    Heck, I played TOR to level 50 - because I wanted to finish the story which was middling but OK - but I never enjoyed the actual gameplay much.

    I do not believe my opinion is "bullshit". What may be however, is your ability to understand how far into something you should play before it is boring to you. It doesn't take to long to understand something unless you are playing it from the back of a little yellow bus.

    As I said, that's bullshit. People are different - and some games take a long time before they get into their own.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Originally posted by DKLond
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by DKLond
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    I do not believe my opinion is "bullshit". What may be however, is your ability to understand how far into something you should play before it is boring to you. It doesn't take to long to understand something unless you are playing it from the back of a little yellow bus.

    As I said, that's bullshit. People are different - and some games take a long time before they get into their own.

    Good for you and wonderful retort. You have a wonderful grasp on when to use curse words. 

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by DKLond
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by DKLond
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    I do not believe my opinion is "bullshit". What may be however, is your ability to understand how far into something you should play before it is boring to you. It doesn't take to long to understand something unless you are playing it from the back of a little yellow bus.

    As I said, that's bullshit. People are different - and some games take a long time before they get into their own.

    Good for you and wonderful retort. You have a wonderful grasp on when to use curse words. 

    I try to use appropriate words, and I'd rather use a "curse word" when it fits - than call people WoW fanbois to support my ignorant dislike of people who don't share my taste in games.

  • WinterizerWinterizer Member Posts: 65
    Originally posted by Vidir

    I bought the game and played some beta,but sofar I see nothing special with this game, ok, it looks good runs good but mostly boring quests and everythin you do is more or less same as you did the quest before. Ok I have only played till level 25 but why do they not make it fun? it is just plain boring.

     

    I think it is what people hope it to be rather then what it is.

    Players always hope "the next game" to be awesome and hype it up beyond anything, then it releases and the rage begins because it did not live up to the expectations.

    Seen it before, will see it again
  • VorchVorch Member UncommonPosts: 793

    I hate it when discussions become platforms for arguements between a few people.

    The OP asked a question and neither of you guys are doing him or anyone else a service by bickering in the topic -_-

     

    On Topic: There are plenty of things to do in GW2 as I said in my previous response.

    You just need to try some out and find what fits you.

     

    Also, I think you need to understand that Heart Quests are not DEs, and that just because you have 100% on a zone doesn't mean you have done every DE. Again, play like an RPG, not like an MMO.

    "As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days— those are now the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2

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