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Why the new video on HK-51 Shows that SWTOR is not in peril...
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Here some facts for you from swtorstatus.com
Take a look for yourself and see how many full and heavy servers there is.
Ps its not pretty.
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ok they should have made the worlds more like SWG.... npc cities with player housing all around them.. instances on each planet etc.... that would have been a start tbh there is so much worng with this game from the engine to the worlds being nothing more than go here do a quest and leave...so many good things from SWG have been overlooked and not included its just madness.. i think most of star wars fans are now clinging onto the hope that SWG 2 some how gets made or even SWG gets a relaunch... tats how bad KOTOR is.. and i agree to a point BIOWARE basically blew smoke up everyones arses...its not even a MMORPG game...i love star wars and feel BIOWARE killed it for me along with LUCASARTS.....geroge should be ashamed of himself..
Dude, do you really expect to get anywhere on this site with anything pro SWTOR? Stop wasting your time here and have fun playing the game.Which site is pro-SWTOR ?
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I logged in during this last week's free period to pass subscribers, and the servers were all light and the closest to death they had ever been since I stopped playing. It was not peak hours, but the fleet I logged into had 5 players. When I left, 50-60 players was a considered low in the fleet.
I wonder how much my one time check-in compares with your "constant FULL"...
Do you mean the 18 servers from 200+ that still remains=? Well if those 18 were not full ...
Let me tell you a secret. I started to play at December , when they hit 1,7 m players at Basilisk Droid, there was 1 hour queues to log the game multiple istances and 400 players at fleet.
I left the game after 19 days because I couldnt stand the boredom at level 50...but I gave it a try at 1.2.
There was 37 guys at fleet. 37!! I left again when get my 2nd warhero set for my companion and didnt look back till...
Last week when I came back with the "begging for come back" 7 days they gift to everyone with a 50 and one month paid , and transfered from Luka Senne where my 2nd main was to Red Eclipse, one of those red servers you claim.
There was 230 toons at most on fleet, imperial side of course.
There is not 1m players in SWTOR, not even in your wildest bioware fan dreams.
If I see 200 boxes with 400 apples, 2 months latter 37 apples in each box and ths morning 200 apples in just one box, I dont need the farmer to tell me there are less apples.
So if you want to belive the 1,3 m players EA said it was still playing are there but hidden is your problem. You must admit is very hard to belive for us who can see it with our own eyes as they insist in gift us with free time.
There is no superservers, there is no more people playing, just a very few packed in 18 servers( 18 because oceanic and RP server dont even hit the standard mark anymore.) Also the Euro servers are in free fall since 1.3.
Numbers at TORstatus.
While i would definitely agree that the game is not dead, its not healthy by any means, Bioware/EA still need to do a lot of work to turn around the loss of subs problem, 1.3 did go quite a ways towards fixing the grouping mechanics, better late than never, but it was, sadly very late, how much of the 'rot' is set in because of this, will probably take time to evaluate, but there are still more problems to deal with, ilum, space, and the ever pressing need to keep on adding new content. If SW;TOR was in a hospital, it would probably be in the ICU, undergoing treatment with a bunch of people outside praying and keeping their fingers crossed. And before you just dismiss me as another hater, im currently playing, and paying to play the game. Make no mistake i do want Bioware/EA to make this game a success, but if this game is ever going to get out of the ICU, then a whole lot of work still needs to be done, and player patience is a finite commodity.
I don't believe that for a second.
That's dishonest. They haven't gotten rid of the the servers they merged from yet.
Really? Why?
I have nothing to back my statement up since it's just something I heard from a friend. But I wouldn't state that here if I thought it was far fetched.
I do remember an official statement where they said they wante to keep pushing content until 2025 or something. So it seems normal they prepared.
Its a freaking long scroll list of servers ...
just saying.
Agreed (but he did shoot first).
However is if you enjoy the game or not a very different issue from the game being in peril or not. EA did close down The Sims online because they werent happy with the number of subs and that might happen again.
It is rather clear that there are things that needs to be fixed if EA want to keep the game running as P2P and earn some money on it (enough for them not to cancel it).
I hope they do realize what needs to be done and fixes it but all is far from well with the game right now, the retention rate of players are abyssmal right now and they need to fix that ASAP.
And no smaller patch can fix that (or even the larger patches they released so far), they need to change the multiplayer and PvP parts of the games so the game feels like a massive multiplayer RPG with some soloparts instead for the other way around.
Sologames can be fun but they rarely keep players as long as MMOs and wont really make people pay a monthly fee for them.
Of course I might just be wrong, maybe is just the problem that people no longer want P2P MMOs at all and the fault is the payment method instead of the game but I find that unlikely.
I will admit that I was a "hater" but over time I will say it is a good game
I think the expecations as to why people are hating the game is that it could have been revolotionary, original, and creative, instead it comes down to a decent "WoW Clone"
Bioware has developed a rep for creating great games, and this game was not up to par for what I would have expected this to be. KoTOR was really good, and making it into a MMO would have been outstanding
For a game of 2011-2012 Game "Could" have had a 3rd Criminal faction, "Could" have had a full space game, "Could" have had more than just 4 classes; Bounty hunter/Commando same thing, common....ect, More ships to choose from, some open world planets, PvP that works
But it does not, and the let down is all the money it took to make "this" what we see now. So from a point of view it is horrible. But on the other hand if you take it for what it is, overall its a "Decent WoW Clone" and very expensive one. Now that the game is released, like with all MMOs, cut back on the dev team what you see now is what you get, and maybe some really cool feature a year from now be added to the game.
I am still subbed, and I play it from time to time.....but no means a blow away hit, nor totally broken game like we see mostly nowadays
Or it hasn't been made at all, mental projection to materialise apparisions to others exposed, a form of hysteria, ghostbusters stylee. It's a well documented phenomena.
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Lmao. 1920 x 1080 screen resolution and that was still 13 pages of servers. Even if some of them are merged that's a lot of players. I don't see SWTOR going anywhere anytime soon. I'll probably wait til they release an expansion pack until I resubscribe though.
Dude, seriously, I love this.
This is what I've been wondering every day since I started playing SWToR (still am, btw.). The sad thing is that SWToR takes place AFTER the war was fought and during an unstable armistice.
Now I kept wondering: If we have an armistice, why is the Empire allowed to kick the Republic's face in every time they land on the same planet and nothing is done? And why is the Republic (quite openly) assisting people that rebel against the Empire? At some point in a story-driven game, there should have been at least ONE planet where open warfare happened. But nope, don't see it. (And Ilum doesn't count, nobody ever goes there after the open PvP was taken out)
In my opinion, BioWare put the wrong game into SWToR. They should've given us war. Entire planets contested, raids on Coruscant, raids on Dromund Kaas, multiplayer space attacks on the other fraction's fleet... instead of this gooey mass of uncertain aggression that makes everything anyone does seem kinda ... unmotivated.
SWToR is not dead. Not by a long shot. I base that on almost two centuries of MMO experience. But a cinematic trailer is about as informative about the state of the company or game as page 231 of your nearest phone book is about its future.
I refuse to trash Blur Studios' work, because I think they're amazing.
That said.... the OP's boyish goofiness in describing people's reactions to the SW:TOR 09 and 10 E3 CGI-fest videos is absurd.
Those videos stunk.
They felt NOTHING like the original Star Wars trilogy (the only trilogy that matters) and they had NO BEARING on the actual SW:TOR experience.
Sorry, OP...
I'm sorry SW:TOR sucks. Its clearly effected you deeply.
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I highly doubt that Bioware got to the release date of TOR without post release content ready to go and a plan mapped out of whats going to be put into the game when and where.
If you want a look at TOR's future have a look at Warhammer Online, post release we got some updates like new classes and Land Of The Dead and lastly Skaven but the game has been in maintenance mode for the past couple of years.
Dont get some of us wrong we all really wanted to love TOR and it should have been the WOW killer we have all been waiting for but the game itself lacks depth, me personally I didnt feel immersed in the galaxy far far away that we have all grown up with.
If they had taken the open sandbox style of SWG pre NGE that allowed people to play classes that didnt want to "get involved", then tack on their war between the Republic and Sith storyline for those that wanted to fight and then finally actually have mass space battles like Star Wars is known for instead of that extremely poor on rails space shooter it does have then im quite sure we would all still be loving TOR for many years to come.
Lol...couldn't get past the first eight levels eh? How interesting...
You do realize you just showed everyone you haven't even actually played TSW by that right?
As for the OP, who knows? Plans with HK and the planet they plan on unveiling were in the pipeline before the game even released. All that info was leaked on Darth Hater many months ago. Really this proves nothing either way.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
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"Isn't a raid plundering villages in WoW or something like that?" - Robert Desable
You're darn right i like TSW more than SW:TOR.
A damn lot more for that matter.
SW:TOR is a miserable cartoony nightmare. Its like a bad Saturday morning kid's show in almost every way. Its more of a crappy Star Wars rip-off than an actual product trying to honor its source material and if I didn't know better, I'd think it was made by Hasbro Toys, rather than a AAA+ game developer with decades of RPG experinece under their belt. Because they flat out dropped the proverbial "hutt" ball on it.
The Secret World's combat is lightyears beyond SW:TOR's. Missions in TSW further give wealth to an already rich game enviroment. The game is INSPIRED. Fantastic story telling, remarkable voice acting and original animations mo-capped for every cutscene to give it a true Cinematic experience.
SW:TOR doesn't hold a candle to the Secret World's quality and inspired design. Scoff as much as you want.
You keep telling yourself that long enough and you might even start to believe it yourself.
But you ain't fooling anyone else. Sorry.
Did you just call me a hypocrit?
Yeah, I'll bash SW:TOR openly and freely and I don't plan on ever stopping. I'm a big Star Wars fan who hates what this game is. I also paid $65 for it and gave it a chance, it failed that chance. I have every right to bash it.
I'll defend TSW too. I paid $50 for it and I absolutely love it. I have every right to defend it.
These forums are a game, and this is how I'm playing it.
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