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With their pro skills? You do know that if you are a good player (both in character building and character playing) you can defeat 2 or even more players on your own. But I guess bad players won't admit that they want the pro gear in order to win and playing on an even field makes them feel bad. Too bad, go play a gear game were your skill in acquiring gear will allow you to compensate for your lack of skill
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The fact that you rely on the crutch of your gear, over practice and skill makes you a "pug-baddy." Honestly, the fact you're upset that players won't be penalized for not running a treadmill is ridiculous.
Gear matters in Guild Wars 2 as well. Everything you mentioned is in character developement/building. You can choose different items/skills to outfit your character you know, you don't just use some set items and skills.
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People can and have taken a cap vs 2-3 players. There is video documentation of this.
You just have to play well.
Arenanet devs were absolutely destroying team after team in sPvP matches.
GW1 did much the same thing, and a good GW1 player can kick the shit out of a whole team of bad players, singlehandedly.
Playing longer will theoretically make somebody a better player, and will improve various skills like mouse control, reaction time, ability to identify skills, and so on.
You can still be better by playing longer. It's just playing longer won't be a guarantee, you're limited by your own skill.
So far as I can tell your complaint is that you have more spare time than skill. That's fine, there's plenty of MMOs that cater to that sort of gameplay.
You can just play GW2 until they stop giving you better gear, and then stop. That's at least 100+ hours of play, more than your money's worth for 60 bucks.
Or don't play it at all, if the issue makes you that upset. We'll just have to enjoy the game without you.
that takes about a week tops
you unlock the regular and elite skills insanely quickly and the whole talent system is easily done through a online skill calculator
dodging and strafing come naturally from playing other games at any sort of compitent level and you'll learn a huge variety of class tactics through just watching other players play / dungeon queues
familiarity with terrain takes a whole 1-2 games played on the maps and the more beneficial objectives are 100% subjective. due to who is where and how long it takes you to get there / who could be there
this isnt "skill advantages" this is Common sense.
please show me the point where i said that
go on
ill wait.
The fact that you are crying there is no gear treadmill is enough
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" if i PVP For months on end, i should be given the ability to crush (a bit too harsh of a word, have an advantage?) someone whos just started playing that is outside of player skill"
Thank you seridan. You get it.
so there IS a gear treadmill
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY READS holy shit that took ages
No there isn't if you go for structured PVP you have access to everything at level 1
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so your saying you wanna put in the time commitment
for zero return
K Lol
All bs aside, it's a valid complaint. Most MMOs and even RPGs you are rewarded with gear for playing and with MMO's especially. Take away the carrot and what is left? This is what the OP is asking about and some have attempted to answer. Saying that he is lacking skill because he asks a legit question is out of line and shooting him down because he has a possible problem with your "salvation" is even worse.
I like to PvP. That is reward enough for me.
Most people wouldn't consider that a gear treadmill. It's really just that your gear increases with your level, and you get new gear. That takes about 100 hours. From the way you wrote your post, you made it sound like you realized that you got better gear for a while, and were just complaining that it didn't last basically for months.
Eventually you'll have to fine tune your gear so it matches. Depending upon how picky you are, that may take quite a bit, but it wont' be more powerful, just suited towards your build (And there are some truly hilarious upgrades too, like there's this bird upgrades for armor slots where if you wear two pieces of it, all attacks have a 5% chance to proc a random bird attacking the other player, haha.).
No gear treadmill at ALL in structured PvP though. Straight to level 80 with access to maximum power gear and equipment and all skills/traits.
Yes in the open world and its minimal. In structured pvp you are leveled to 80 and given max stat items. So keep going with your trashy pvp puber ideas.
Then the game is not for him. It's about playing, not punishing you for not putting a certain amount of time investment into it.
For zero return? I'm having fun playing... Without the carrot. I'm beating people, or losing, but yeah, it'll be a whole lot more fun than grinding PvP ranks in rift.
Stop trolling.
so your automatically assuming im talking about structured pvp
Klol
Man, we are not from the same generation.
You play to become better at playing, not to get better gear.
What are you talking about? Ganking people out in the open world? Cause that doesn't exist.
GOD. STOP. TROLLING.
In world versus world, sure there's a gear difference, and if that's what you want. Go there. The whole point is not punishing players for not sinking time in. And not giving an unfair advantage to those who have more time to play.
Then what are you complaining about? You naturally get better gear the more you level up, 5 minutes in the game is enough to see this, it's rather obvious. Then when you get the level 80 gear you stop earning any more powerful gear, it's as simple as that.
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Nah, just from playing the game it's pretty obvious that by level 80 you'll have good gear, but probably not the highest quality level. You never have the best gear for your level right away. Maaaaaaybe if you've been really keeping up on your crafting. xD ... but even then, it's likely you won't have all the components you need to get the ultimate set.
So you'll be spending a little more time maxing out your quality level, though the Arenanet developers says they wanted it so even a casual player can do so (Rather than hiding it behind tiers of raiding, for example).
So crafting, drops, dungeons, karma stuff, maybe a couple other ways.
Then of course, you might want a specific set of stats, so that might take even longer. ... those won't be more powerful though, just tuned for a different build.
The way it manages to not punish players for not spending time playing is by failing to reward the players that do. It's a legit gripe stop crying troll.
What should you be rewarded with? An unfair advantage in pvp? I'm sure there will be plenty of titles, pets, achievements, costume looks, etc.
To say I'm crying troll is laughable. His gripe is that there's relatively no gear progression to reward a player for sinking time in as compared to someone who isn't.
This isn't WoW. The reward is the enjoyment from the game. It isn't a job. There are plenty of games that sound like they'd be better suited for this type of gameplay he is looking for.
That sentence is a far better response than your last to the OP and I didn't call you a troll I told you to stop "crying troll" you know? Like the book, the boy who cried troll. He cried troll so often that it was too hard to identify real trolling from real issues people had with the game.