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Why my girlfriend can't kill anyone in wow pvp but in gw2 beta she destroyed players with elementali

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  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    not sure why you continually feel the need to spread false information on the game

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • MercAngelMercAngel Member Posts: 204
    Originally posted by MercAngel
    Zone, Realm, and Char names please

    yes i am quoteing my self why.

     

    any one who plays WoW and some that do not know that you can look up the status of any player in the game, that info could show the OP right or wrong

     

    to me it is now to late to give the info as they are eather trying to find the rigth info witch they sould have had right away or it is all made up.

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  • mad-hattermad-hatter Member UncommonPosts: 241
    It probably helps that during bwe's there was a metric ass ton of horrible pvpers.
  • eggy08eggy08 Member Posts: 525
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    not sure why you continually feel the need to spread false information on the game

    Because all his threads and posts get blocked and editted and his voice needs to be heard by the heavens themselves. This post itself will probly be editted and people will miss the reference.

    "The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport." I'm copying that because I feel like this will be editted, but lets see if you are right or not. I'm pretty positive it will become an e-sport due to GW history and the basis behind the design of this game.

  • kramtkramt Member Posts: 86
    Originally posted by palulalula
    She really can't kill any skilled player in wow, in fact i can't remember when she killed anyone. But how for heaven she got so many kills in gw2 beta pvp if is gw2 so much about skills???

    And how did you know she was fighting against a skilled GW2 player? This was in beta so she was probably fighting against a newbie like herself too. In structured PvP you are buffed to level 80 and all your skills and traits are unlocked, so everyone is on even footing. In WoW as you've stated, she was probably fighting a player with better gear

  • AldersAlders Member RarePosts: 2,207
    Originally posted by mad-hatter
    It probably helps that during bwe's there was a metric ass ton of horrible pvpers.

     

    Pretty much this.  You could join any random pug sPVP and destroy anyone with almost any spec because people were still learning.  I'd also wager that a large number of players went in with whatever pre-loaded spec they were given and didn't even bother to make a proper build.

    Tournaments are a completely different animal.

     

    Also keep in mind the OP has been trolling GW2 for a while now.

  • JoeyMMOJoeyMMO Member UncommonPosts: 1,326
    OMG, so many people feeding the trolls. Block away, that's what it's there for.

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  • otinanai123otinanai123 Member Posts: 265
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    And you're judging this based on what exactly?

    based on PvPing since 2002 and playing all 3 gw2 BWEs.

     

    Let's do a quick comparison with WoW which is a game with low skill cap as well.

    WoW's cc ~8 sec, GW2's ~2-3 = gw2 easier

    wow no downed state, gw2 yes downed state = gw2 easier

    wow has resource management, gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    wow has cc diminishing returns , gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    etc..

  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    Are they actually trying into making GW2 an e-sport? Does not seem fast paced enough to make for an interesting e-sport though. 

  • LuciferIAmLuciferIAm Member UncommonPosts: 93
    A gamer having a girlfriend? Lolwtffailgtfo.
  • clumsytoes44clumsytoes44 Member UncommonPosts: 463
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    Wow's level in vanilla was I believe 60, now 85 i believe

    Lotro's level cap atm is 75

    Rift's level cap is 60

    Guild war's 1 level cap is 20

    Guild war's 2 level cap is 80

    Age of conan level cap is 80

    Please do some research before spouting of with BS. Have a nice day.

  • AsalzSyAsalzSy Member UncommonPosts: 230
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    so all these guys from Arena Junkies,Dragon season etc who follow the game for the pvp are idiots and you are the pro pvper who knows evrything right?

  • GraeyGraey Member UncommonPosts: 281

    Its just nice to see a couple actually play games together. Hopefully that will catch on..and by catch on I mean me meeting a super gamer geek girl lol.

     

    Not sure OP, might be gear or just that everyone is starting off rather average in GW2 until the mechanics are learned. WoW has had more time for people to learn things and put skill on gear.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Dietengu
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    so all these guys from Arena Junkies,Dragon season etc who follow the game for the pvp are idiots and you are the pro pvper who knows evrything right?

    more videos showing the start of the eSport

    http://www.youtube.com/user/GuildSource/videos?view=0

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    And you're judging this based on what exactly?

    based on PvPing since 2002 and playing all 3 gw2 BWEs.

     

    Let's do a quick comparison with WoW which is a game with low skill cap as well.

    WoW's cc ~8 sec, GW2's ~2-3 = gw2 easier

    wow no downed state, gw2 yes downed state = gw2 easier

    wow has resource management, gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    wow has cc diminishing returns , gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    etc..

    ok....

     

    WoW's cc ~8 sec, GW2's ~2-3 = WoW easier to keep someone locked down

    WoW no downed state, gw2 downed state = WoW easier to finish off opponents

    WoW has resource management, GW2 does also = Same

    WoW CC has diminishing returns, GW2 doesn't = WoW has a shitty mechanic

  • eggy08eggy08 Member Posts: 525
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    And you're judging this based on what exactly?

    based on PvPing since 2002 and playing all 3 gw2 BWEs.

     

    Let's do a quick comparison with WoW which is a game with low skill cap as well.

    WoW's cc ~8 sec, GW2's ~2-3 = gw2 easier

    wow no downed state, gw2 yes downed state = gw2 easier

    wow has resource management, gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    wow has cc diminishing returns , gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    etc..

    *golf clap* Man, thats what makes this game easier. So your first point and your last point really kind of correlate, there is limited cc in GW2 and it doesnt last longer, thus it needs no diminishing returns like in WoW.

    WoW has no dodge mechanic, gw2 does = WoW easier

    WoW has specific specs designed for PvP, gw2 doesn't = WoW easier

    WoW has PvP specific gear with a PvP specific stat, gw2 doesn't = WoW easier

    I can go on as well. Your points honestly don't make the game sound anymore easier than mine do. All you are doing is stating points that GW2 doesn't have that WoW does. Honestly, if you feel WoW is harder in PvP then by all means play WoW, noone will care to see you go. But like Aerowyn already stated, stop spewing misinformation to everyone and calling it factual. We know you don't like the game, so why do you bother to come on these forums to tell us?

  • TruthXHurtsTruthXHurts Member UncommonPosts: 1,555
    Originally posted by palulalula
    She really can't kill any skilled player in wow, in fact i can't remember when she killed anyone. But how for heaven she got so many kills in gw2 beta pvp if is gw2 so much about skills???

    Seriously only skill WoW takes is putting on all of your grind reward armor and mashing a few buttons.

    "I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    And you're judging this based on what exactly?

    based on PvPing since 2002 and playing all 3 gw2 BWEs.

     

    Let's do a quick comparison with WoW which is a game with low skill cap as well.

    WoW's cc ~8 sec, GW2's ~2-3 = gw2 easier

    wow no downed state, gw2 yes downed state = gw2 easier

    wow has resource management, gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    wow has cc diminishing returns , gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    etc..

    ok....

     

    WoW's cc ~8 sec, GW2's ~2-3 = WoW easier to keep someone locked down

    WoW no downed state, gw2 downed state = WoW easier to finish off opponents

    WoW has resource management, GW2 does also = Same

    WoW CC has diminishing returns, GW2 doesn't = WoW has a shitty mechanic

    sort of pointless he could watch the videos posted earlier in the thread and see himself but like the other threads he isn't here for a discussion.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • eggy08eggy08 Member Posts: 525
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by otinanai123
    The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.  

    And you're judging this based on what exactly?

    based on PvPing since 2002 and playing all 3 gw2 BWEs.

     

    Let's do a quick comparison with WoW which is a game with low skill cap as well.

    WoW's cc ~8 sec, GW2's ~2-3 = gw2 easier

    wow no downed state, gw2 yes downed state = gw2 easier

    wow has resource management, gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    wow has cc diminishing returns , gw2 doesn't = gw2 easier

    etc..

    ok....

     

    WoW's cc ~8 sec, GW2's ~2-3 = WoW easier to keep someone locked down

    WoW no downed state, gw2 downed state = WoW easier to finish off opponents

    WoW has resource management, GW2 does also = Same

    WoW CC has diminishing returns, GW2 doesn't = WoW has a shitty mechanic

    sort of pointless he could watch the videos posted earlier in the thread and see himself but like the other threads he isn't here for a discussion.

    Ever notice that he always skips useful information, then argues with people who just bash him instead then wonders why he's hated. I'm shocked that the admins haven't straight up banned him by now since he gets his post editted and blocked so often.

  • ajayazirajayazir Member Posts: 108

    you know what... skill and mmo shouldn't be in the same sentence.

  • chefdiablochefdiablo Member Posts: 202

    Without the need for specific gear and learning a rotation, a player can adapt very quickly in skill based pvp.

    I prefer action combat pvp over learning rotation pvp. The main reason is that rotation pvp always has a set of pivot points based on your competition. They are similar to If Then sub routines. If player x does this Then do y or If player x does something else Then do w and so on.

    For some players this is not great pvp. If they can't adjust to the competition they often just resort to a default rotation or worse just pop everything without any reason or purpose.

    Maybe the person in question is just a GW2 savant? It does not matter really. I do not like WOW pvp. Gear is the main factor, and skill difficult to determine based on the variables involved.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by colddog04

    ok....

     

    WoW's cc ~8 sec, GW2's ~2-3 = WoW easier to keep someone locked down

    WoW no downed state, gw2 downed state = WoW easier to finish off opponents

    WoW has resource management, GW2 does also = Same

    WoW CC has diminishing returns, GW2 doesn't = WoW has a shitty mechanic

    sort of pointless he could watch the videos posted earlier in the thread and see himself but like the other threads he isn't here for a discussion.

    I just think it's silly that the exact points he lists can actually make WoW look easier than GW2. I actually like WoW a lot and the truth of it is that they play a lot different. There will be extremely skilled players playing both games.

  • seridanseridan Member UncommonPosts: 1,202
    The skill cap in gw2 is pretty high compared to other MMO. I'm waiting for this game to become a successful e-sport.  

    Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums

  • fiontarfiontar Member UncommonPosts: 3,682

    Yeah. I'm thinking she has finally found a game and profession that fits her playstyle and since there is no gear grind in sPvP, she doesn't have to wonder if it's skill or gear determining her level of success/failure. Your girlfriend has skillz in this game! So be happy for her!

    BTW, I think the only pvpers who aren't going to like GW2 sPvP are those who think they are good PvPers in other games due to a gear grind advantage. For every person who shines in GW2 PvP, free of the yoke of a PvP stat gear grind, there will be those who find the discovery that they aren't very skilled after all a bit of a let down. :)

    Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
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  • TruthXHurtsTruthXHurts Member UncommonPosts: 1,555
    Tell your GF to PM. I wil treat her better and not use her doing well in a game as an example of why the PVP is lacking.

    "I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

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