Originally posted by otinanai123 The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.
not sure why you continually feel the need to spread false information on the game
Because all his threads and posts get blocked and editted and his voice needs to be heard by the heavens themselves. This post itself will probly be editted and people will miss the reference.
"The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport." I'm copying that because I feel like this will be editted, but lets see if you are right or not. I'm pretty positive it will become an e-sport due to GW history and the basis behind the design of this game.
Today is the day. Arena Junkies is now featuring Guild Wars 2 in addition to World of Warcraft. We took a long time to consider and have seen many games get hyped and fail to deliver, but we strongly believe that this will not be the case with Guild Wars 2. The strong focus on competitive sPvP and tournaments, the growing scene with high caliber players from many different games now starting to play GW2 and the recent beta tests have given us high hopes.
I'm tired arguing with fanboys. If you guys think GW2 will become an e-sport without HUGE changes you are seriously deluded.
Well considering the e-sport community is already getting behind GW2, I'd say it has a good shot at becoming an e-sport. It obviously won't happen over night, and it'll depend on the players and the developers together. However, as opposed to WoW, I think GW2 stands the best chance of becoming an e-sport.
Originally posted by otinanai123 The skill cap in gw2 is the lowest I've seen in an MMO(yes, even lower than WoW, which I never thought was possible). This is both bad and good. It will attract many casual players and PvEers but it will also drive away the PvPers. The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport.
not sure why you continually feel the need to spread false information on the game
Because all his threads and posts get blocked and editted and his voice needs to be heard by the heavens themselves. This post itself will probly be editted and people will miss the reference.
"The biggest con is that there is no way in hell this game will become an e-sport." I'm copying that because I feel like this will be editted, but lets see if you are right or not. I'm pretty positive it will become an e-sport due to GW history and the basis behind the design of this game.
Today is the day. Arena Junkies is now featuring Guild Wars 2 in addition to World of Warcraft. We took a long time to consider and have seen many games get hyped and fail to deliver, but we strongly believe that this will not be the case with Guild Wars 2. The strong focus on competitive sPvP and tournaments, the growing scene with high caliber players from many different games now starting to play GW2 and the recent beta tests have given us high hopes.
And to otinanai123: It might be because you have nothing better to argue about, and if you hate arguing with "fanboys" so much and being proven wrong, go to some other forum of a game you like. You sound like Bilbodoggins, who hates our community but will come on these forums to complain regardless of saying that he wouldn't.
She died from 84 level lock. Rogue 85lev full pvp geared destroyed from 84 lev lock lol. Do i need to say more ?
Man, a well-geared and well-played warlock can own ANY class AND you just said she had a rogue, well....I cannot think of two classes MORE different than the GW2 elementalist and the WoW rogue....seriously.
Maybe she just found the right class for herself, or even the right game. You act like it's a miracle or something or like something is wrong with the game. Maybe she's just more compatible with the GW2 elementalist than a WoW rogue. And maybe you're feeling a wee bit threatened since your gf might be able to own now? Maybe?
I think alot of people are simply making guesses at the cause behind this. However, your issue truly concerns me, so I'd like to provide an answer based upon a deeper understanding of your girlfriends abilities.
As such, please send her over to my apartment for the weekend, after which I'll be able to provide an in depth analysis of her skills and talents.
It's hilarious to me that a game where each profession can spec so differently and has active avoidance can be seen easier than a game with tab targetting.
Eh stop throwing around the gear matters so much, he already said she was geared. Sounds like she is just bad at WoW and good at GW2, nothing wrong with that.
I'm tired arguing with fanboys. If you guys think GW2 will become an e-sport without HUGE changes you are seriously deluded.
I don't plan on PvPing, but I'd still like to know your reasoning behind that.
WoW didn't become an e-sport. How about you tell me why GW2 will?
So your logic is that because WoW is no longer(it was) an e-sport (despite the fact that it's never balanced, and it's constant gear progression), GW2 won't become an e-sport?
Lets put it this way:
If ArenaNet can keep sPvP balanced, it'll do very good. If it's fun to watch (most important), it'll become an e-sport. Not to mention, it's extremely difficult to understand WoW PvP unless you are a regular player. All it needs is a spectator mode, which is coming post release. As I said, the PvP community across many games are already interested in GW2. It offers an easy to understand combat system, with effects that make it fun to watch (to me at least), a combat system that has a very high skill cap, everyone is on equal footing, so the only thing that matters is your skill. Not to mention people can employ different strategies depending on what map they are on.
Maybe cause a GOOD chunk of people who currently pvp have absolutely no idea how to properly play their class be cause they've only probably reached like level 30 max? Will be a different story in a few months (or maybe not if your gf becomes pro at pvping). The game isn't out yet, people don't have pvp gear, they don't know skill combos etc. In fact I use to do pretty damn well in wow pvp with conquest point gear (converted from valor) despite my very low skill. So tell me. Where 's the skill. Wow's pvp runs on resilience. Don't be so quick to judge. Not a fanboy. Just hate it when people like you spout crap without thinking
Oh yeah!? Well MY girlfriend is a 300 ELO level 30 summoner in LoL with full runes and masteries and loses to level 10s who don't even have access to runes and masteries yet. And she got gladiator 3 seasons in a row in WoW!
I'm tired arguing with fanboys. If you guys think GW2 will become an e-sport without HUGE changes you are seriously deluded.
I don't plan on PvPing, but I'd still like to know your reasoning behind that.
WoW didn't become an e-sport. How about you tell me why GW2 will?
So your logic is that because WoW is no longer(it was) an e-sport (despite the fact that it's never balanced, and it's constant gear progression), GW2 won't become an e-sport?
Lets put it this way:
If ArenaNet can keep sPvP balanced, it'll do very good. If it's fun to watch (most important), it'll become an e-sport. Not to mention, it's extremely difficult to understand WoW PvP unless you are a regular player. All it needs is a spectator mode, which is coming post release. As I said, the PvP community across many games are already interested in GW2. It offers an easy to understand combat system, with effects that make it fun to watch (to me at least), a combat system that has a very high skill cap, everyone is on equal footing, so the only thing that matters is your skill. Not to mention people can employ different strategies depending on what map they are on.
Originally posted by Eir_S Er... the main idea of sports is that everyone is on even footing. Organizing WoW as an e-sport would be nightmarish.
Why do you say that WoW can't do, say, arenas on equal footing? I've seen plenty of arena tournaments that state otherwise (Gamescom to pick a recent one).
Originally posted by Homitu Oh yeah!? Well MY girlfriend is a 300 ELO level 30 summoner in LoL with full runes and masteries and loses to level 10s who don't even have access to runes and masteries yet. And she got gladiator 3 seasons in a row in WoW!
Its kind of funny how that works out. My buddy is platinum league in Starcraft 2, yet he gets destroyed in LoL (he's getting better).
I'm pretty dominate in LoL but I fail miserably at SC2.
I think its new game - new mechanics to learn, ect ect.
Originally posted by Eir_S Er... the main idea of sports is that everyone is on even footing. Organizing WoW as an e-sport would be nightmarish.
Why do you say that WoW can't do, say, arenas on equal footing? I've seen plenty of arena tournaments that state otherwise (Gamescom to pick a recent one).
And WoW has been played as an e-sport before, I'm just saying GW2 would be far easier to manage for all involved. The idea is that someone said if WoW can't be, then how could GW2? It makes no sense, since WoW actually can be. But unless Arena gear is simply given to these players in WoW games, there's the extra element of farming for all of it, then making sure everyone is balanced. Sounds like a headache to me anyway.
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Today is the day. Arena Junkies is now featuring Guild Wars 2 in addition to World of Warcraft. We took a long time to consider and have seen many games get hyped and fail to deliver, but we strongly believe that this will not be the case with Guild Wars 2. The strong focus on competitive sPvP and tournaments, the growing scene with high caliber players from many different games now starting to play GW2 and the recent beta tests have given us high hopes.
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"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
I'm tired arguing with fanboys. If you guys think GW2 will become an e-sport without HUGE changes you are seriously deluded.
my review of GW2
I don't plan on PvPing, but I'd still like to know your reasoning behind that.
Translation: "You don't agree with me so you're wrong."
At any rate, see you in WvW!
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
Well considering the e-sport community is already getting behind GW2, I'd say it has a good shot at becoming an e-sport. It obviously won't happen over night, and it'll depend on the players and the developers together. However, as opposed to WoW, I think GW2 stands the best chance of becoming an e-sport.
Yay.
And to otinanai123: It might be because you have nothing better to argue about, and if you hate arguing with "fanboys" so much and being proven wrong, go to some other forum of a game you like. You sound like Bilbodoggins, who hates our community but will come on these forums to complain regardless of saying that he wouldn't.
Man, a well-geared and well-played warlock can own ANY class AND you just said she had a rogue, well....I cannot think of two classes MORE different than the GW2 elementalist and the WoW rogue....seriously.
Maybe she just found the right class for herself, or even the right game. You act like it's a miracle or something or like something is wrong with the game. Maybe she's just more compatible with the GW2 elementalist than a WoW rogue. And maybe you're feeling a wee bit threatened since your gf might be able to own now? Maybe?
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WoW didn't become an e-sport. How about you tell me why GW2 will?
my review of GW2
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I think alot of people are simply making guesses at the cause behind this. However, your issue truly concerns me, so I'd like to provide an answer based upon a deeper understanding of your girlfriends abilities.
As such, please send her over to my apartment for the weekend, after which I'll be able to provide an in depth analysis of her skills and talents.
because i care.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/870544-Esports-drops-WoW-because-pvp-is-that-bad
WoW WAS an e-sport... So what's your point again?
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I'd say the main reason is how MASSIVELY WoW PvP is was part of the reason.
GW2 isn't balanced, but the level gear field does a LOT.
So your logic is that because WoW is no longer(it was) an e-sport (despite the fact that it's never balanced, and it's constant gear progression), GW2 won't become an e-sport?
Lets put it this way:
If ArenaNet can keep sPvP balanced, it'll do very good. If it's fun to watch (most important), it'll become an e-sport. Not to mention, it's extremely difficult to understand WoW PvP unless you are a regular player. All it needs is a spectator mode, which is coming post release. As I said, the PvP community across many games are already interested in GW2. It offers an easy to understand combat system, with effects that make it fun to watch (to me at least), a combat system that has a very high skill cap, everyone is on equal footing, so the only thing that matters is your skill. Not to mention people can employ different strategies depending on what map they are on.
"very high skill cap"
my review of GW2
Er... the main idea of sports is that everyone is on even footing. Organizing WoW as an e-sport would be nightmarish.
Why do you say that WoW can't do, say, arenas on equal footing? I've seen plenty of arena tournaments that state otherwise (Gamescom to pick a recent one).
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Its kind of funny how that works out. My buddy is platinum league in Starcraft 2, yet he gets destroyed in LoL (he's getting better).
I'm pretty dominate in LoL but I fail miserably at SC2.
I think its new game - new mechanics to learn, ect ect.
And WoW has been played as an e-sport before, I'm just saying GW2 would be far easier to manage for all involved. The idea is that someone said if WoW can't be, then how could GW2? It makes no sense, since WoW actually can be. But unless Arena gear is simply given to these players in WoW games, there's the extra element of farming for all of it, then making sure everyone is balanced. Sounds like a headache to me anyway.