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Gold Sellers

JemcrystalJemcrystal Member UncommonPosts: 1,988
in The Pub at MMORPG.COM

 

Everyone ignores this subject.  Maybe because it's uncomfortable?  Gold Sellers are one of the biggest parts of the MMORPG world.  Do you play a game with Gold Sellers?  Has the game attempted to get rid of them in any way?  How?   How would you deal with them?  Would you deal with them or do you think they have a legitimate business?

I personally play Forsaken World which has a bound monetary system.  "Soul Coin" cannot be traded nor can anything bought with it be traded.  Irl cash can be turned into another game coin called "Leaves" which can be auctioned on the bank tab.  To talk in world chat you have to pay for a device called a "World Flute."  This is the only game where I have never seen a gold seller.

In all other games I've played Gold Sellers are pervasive and annoying.  I image behind every bot is an oriental grandmother making rice soup so I wonder if I should hate them so much. 

Any thoughts on Gold Sellers?  Think future games will try to blot them out?

 



Comments

  • erictlewiserictlewis Member UncommonPosts: 3,022

    Gold dealers are the bane of any mmo.  I seen them in almost every game I play.   I ignore them for the most part unless I get spammed then they get reported.

    The problem with most gold dealers is they have hacked somebodies account(s) and transferred the gold around then sold it.   So all that gold is somebody else's that they lost due to having a hacked account.

    Anybody who buys gold is helping the gold dealers out saying it is ok.

    The way I see it folks who buy gold, need to be perma banned,  and I think games should go after these website that sale gold and shut them down and sue them into the dirt.

    There that is it in a nutshell, I guess I Hate gold dealers.

     

  • AusareAusare Member Posts: 850
    Blame the game not the gold seller.  The reason a gold seller exists is because the game created a boring grind for cash to get X.  If the way of getting X was better gold sellers would not exist.
  • fenistilfenistil Member Posts: 3,005

    Hate bots.   

    I would love if someone would invent a way to run games in isolated enviroment on PC. 

    Something like - game mode (for some multiplayer games)  in Operating Systgem that would turn off every other aplication aside of game.  

    Something like console inside a PC.

  • KhaerosKhaeros Member Posts: 452
    Easier said than done.
     
    Real-world trading is huge - if you have done any socializing in an MMO at all, chances are you've met a person who either buys, sells, or distributes currency for RWTers (many companies will split big orders across multiple accounts in order to avoid detection).  Even with all the systems developers put in to catch it, players still manage to buy and sell gold without any issues.
     
    It's also incredibly cheap.  I just did a search and I see reputable vendors selling for $2.10 / 1k WoW gold.  There's lower prices, but they are probably supplying gold that was obtained by account stealing and bots (which is easier for the game developer to notice and trace to you if you buy it).
     
    To stop RWT, you would have to mind-control every gold buyer to stop buying so there would be no market for it.  Since that's impossible, RWT will still exist.
     
     
  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,238
    Originally posted by Jemcrystal

     

    Everyone ignores this subject.

    I think you'll find we don't, actually.

  • AusareAusare Member Posts: 850
    Human nature is to over come by the easiest route. To ignore this is the games fault.
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Originally posted by Khaeros
    Easier said than done.
     
    Real-world trading is huge - if you have done any socializing in an MMO at all, chances are you've met a person who either buys, sells, or distributes currency for RWTers (many companies will split big orders across multiple accounts in order to avoid detection).  Even with all the systems developers put in to catch it, players still manage to buy and sell gold without any issues.
     
    It's also incredibly cheap.  I just did a search and I see reputable vendors selling for $2.10 / 1k WoW gold.  There's lower prices, but they are probably supplying gold that was obtained by account stealing and bots (which is easier for the game developer to notice and trace to you if you buy it).
     
    To stop RWT, you would have to mind-control every gold buyer to stop buying so there would be no market for it.  Since that's impossible, RWT will still exist.
     
     

    QFT.

    And yes, the Perfect World games have a very good way of discouraging goldfarmers, just like GW2 and Diablo 3 do.

    I don't see the RMTing stopping, because some people will always do it to "keep up" or even just because they are plain lazy.

    A former colleague of mine once told me he bought gold on WoW. Why? Because he lost over ten hours each day to work, and buying gold with real money pretty much meant he'd be sacrificing one hour of wage to gain the equivalent of countless hours of grinding dailies for gold and other boring stuff.

    Now the above mentioned companies (PWI, NCsoft/ArenaNet & Blizzard) have found ways to legalise the whole thing, giving the buyers a legal channel to use (and the sellers as well of course), and on top of that THEY also make money off of the whole thing.

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775

    Yes, i play a game with gold sellers.

    Diablo 3 .. in fact .. every player CAN be a gold seller. Heck, i will become one if i want to. Making money on top of having fun .. is .. more fun.

  • anemoanemo Member RarePosts: 1,903
    Played secondlife, bought college text books and earned more than I spent.

    Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent.

    "At one point technology meant making tech that could get to the moon, now it means making tech that could get you a taxi."

  • LeoghanLeoghan Member Posts: 607
    Yeah I tend to think the moment you "legalize" it in game you do everyone a favor. Games that don't allow it, are kidding themselves if they think they can't stop it. Furthermore if you can "legalize" it and monitor it, you can adjust the economics of a game to account for it. Making it a part of the game won't cut gold sellers out completely, but it'll help a great deal. 
  • maplestonemaplestone Member UncommonPosts: 3,099

    Somewhere over the years, I realized that player economies just aren't fun to me - I'd much rather just trade amongst my alts than trade with other players.  So for the most part I no longer run into gold sellers.

  • phantomghostphantomghost Member UncommonPosts: 738

    WoW was my first experience with gold sellers really,  When I played EQ it was mostly actual players who sold their currency.

     

    There were not typically players who farmed millions and then sold it, they would sell money as they earned it.  Wasn't so bad this way... many people bought expansions with their money.


  • popsicleFTWpopsicleFTW Member Posts: 4

    In my opinion I would have to agree in that both sides make a valid point and no matter what it is in real life or virtual someone who desires it enough will pay for it, even if it is currency within a game.

    One of the things I dislike is games that get flooded with:

    buy gold at www.websitename.com

    buy gold at www.websitename.com

    buy gold at www.websitename.com

    buy gold at www.websitename.com

    buy gold at www.websitename.com

    ....you get the idea.

     

    And there is no filter option for this garbage text so the entire chat is constantly filled with this crap.  Anyway thats my two cents.

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