So there are a bunch of people playing a plainfuly mediocre wanna be MMO ?
Having a handful of "Full" servers isn't much of a accomplishment and isn't a metric for a quality game. Look at WoW, it has many more subscribers playing than GW2 could ever dream of but underneath it all the game itself is painfuly simple, childish and generally regarded as crap...
Really it only shows that the expectations of the MMO community have been terribly lowered over the years by the influx of Casual play, easy mode, eveyrone gets a trophy , non competitive,non social players.
I would actually say that WoW is generally regarded as crap by many of the vocal folks on this forum, not by the MMORPG market as a whole...considering the amount of subs wow has/had.
...that should give you an idea of how reflective the attitudes of this forum are to the ideas of the entire MMORPG market.
So there are a bunch of people playing a plainfuly mediocre wanna be MMO ?
Having a handful of "Full" servers isn't much of a accomplishment and isn't a metric for a quality game. Look at WoW, it has many more subscribers playing than GW2 could ever dream of but underneath it all the game itself is painfuly simple, childish and generally regarded as crap...
Really it only shows that the expectations of the MMO community have been terribly lowered over the years by the influx of Casual play, easy mode, eveyrone gets a trophy , non competitive,non social players.
I would actually say that WoW is generally regarded as crap by many of the vocal folks on this forum, not by the MMORPG market as a whole...considering the amount of subs wow has/had.
...that should give you an idea of how reflective the attitudes of this forum are to the ideas of the entire MMORPG market.
Thats a good point, I guess for all it's fault these forums do stand above the MMO mouth breathign masses.
I just wish they would go off and find their own game genre so we can back to the traditional MMOs.
So there are a bunch of people playing a plainfuly mediocre wanna be MMO ?
Having a handful of "Full" servers isn't much of a accomplishment and isn't a metric for a quality game. Look at WoW, it has many more subscribers playing than GW2 could ever dream of but underneath it all the game itself is painfuly simple, childish and generally regarded as crap...
Really it only shows that the expectations of the MMO community have been terribly lowered over the years by the influx of Casual play, easy mode, eveyrone gets a trophy , non competitive,non social players.
I would actually say that WoW is generally regarded as crap by many of the vocal folks on this forum, not by the MMORPG market as a whole...considering the amount of subs wow has/had.
...that should give you an idea of how reflective the attitudes of this forum are to the ideas of the entire MMORPG market.
I'd just say this forum has a lot of older players who already played and are done with WoW, they left when it was good or when it was getting bad.
WoWs presence in North America is no doubt dwindling incredible fast...a lot of peple play WoW as their first MMO or even their only MMO anyways, it's like an introductory to the MMO world, but people who like MMOs in general don't seem to be playing WoW anymore.
So there are a bunch of people playing a plainfuly mediocre wanna be MMO ?
Having a handful of "Full" servers isn't much of a accomplishment and isn't a metric for a quality game. Look at WoW, it has many more subscribers playing than GW2 could ever dream of but underneath it all the game itself is painfuly simple, childish and generally regarded as crap...
Really it only shows that the expectations of the MMO community have been terribly lowered over the years by the influx of Casual play, easy mode, eveyrone gets a trophy , non competitive,non social players.
I would actually say that WoW is generally regarded as crap by many of the vocal folks on this forum, not by the MMORPG market as a whole...considering the amount of subs wow has/had.
...that should give you an idea of how reflective the attitudes of this forum are to the ideas of the entire MMORPG market.
Thats a good point, I guess for all it's fault these forums do stand above the MMO mouth breathign masses.
I just wish they would go off and find their own game genre so we can back to the traditional MMOs.
funny, I would think someone that uses phrases like 'mouth breathing masses' would enjoy a 'childish' game like WoW
People on these forums think too damn highly of themselves often forgetting that for years they have been spewing what they think is gospel if only the suits of the industry would listen. But put them in a room, or in this case a forum, and they cannot even seem to agree on the most simple matters.
Their stance changes not base on finding acceptance of the views of their peers, but solely base on what FoTM mmorpg they are currently invested in. Sad really.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Unless population numbers state exactly population rather then "High" or "Full" it can't be used for a measure of success in ANY MMO, not just GW2. Those words mean absolutely 0 and can easily be manipulated on ANY game, and have been in the past by adjusting what number of players defines 'high' or 'full'.
If your going to make judgements, use actual population numbers if possible or even at least how popular maybe a city might be. City population is more speculation then anything and isn't really a good method either, but its a lot more reliable then looking at server population that only says "high" or "full".
This is what I was going to say. Without knowing what the actual population is as a full or high population sever by Anet and without knowing if it is adjusted over time, the OP is pretty pointless.
Unless population numbers state exactly population rather then "High" or "Full" it can't be used for a measure of success in ANY MMO, not just GW2. Those words mean absolutely 0 and can easily be manipulated on ANY game, and have been in the past by adjusting what number of players defines 'high' or 'full'.
If your going to make judgements, use actual population numbers if possible or even at least how popular maybe a city might be. City population is more speculation then anything and isn't really a good method either, but its a lot more reliable then looking at server population that only says "high" or "full".
This is what I was going to say. Without knowing what the actual population is as a full or high population sever by Anet and without knowing if it is adjusted over time, the OP is pretty pointless.
Now that I think about it this is starting to feel like SWTOR all over again... 2 months after launch everyone was saying "oh look, servers are still full and high on primetime! all you haters are just jealous the game is so successful!"
But we certainly knew the population was dwindling regardless of what the server status said.
Originally posted by Cakeisyummeh Or the servers have a lot lower capacity.
If that were true, then the game will be lagging like hell and people are going to get disconnected like no tomorrow....
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After all, the Low, high, full tags are not based on bandwidth or CPU usage on the server, someone in anet simply wrote down a code line that change that little high or full tag based on the X amount of players in the game and it looks like they haven’t changed that little piece of code because the amount of people around the game right now really fits those population tags…
I look at a lot of things when I'm trying to decide if an MMO is 'good' or not. The most important one is how the people I game with are playing the game. How much time are they putting into the game? How interested are they when they talk about the game? Are they even talking about the game still?
The response to GW2 has been different from the response to Rift, SWToR and D3. They are interested in the game, and they continue to discuss the game around the office on a regular basis. They started with more than 12 hours a day game time, but have slacked off to about 4 hours a day, nearly every day. The game has been at the 4 hours a day, every day state for a few weeks.
So...what does that mean? To me, it means that GW2 is a good game.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
No game will ever measure up to some people on this forums. Or they have a favorite mmo and any other (more so if its doing better than their's) must be tore up.
Anet is in a better position than the other games released this year. In some ways it would actually be better if less people were playing. And that all stems from not having a sub based model. Hating on the game won't change the fact that it is a success.
Originally posted by Ryowulf No game will ever measure up to some people on this forums. Or they have a favorite mmo and any other (more so if its doing better than their's) must be tore up.
Anet is in a better position than the other games released this year. In some ways it would actually be better if less people were playing. And that all stems from not having a sub based model. Hating on the game won't change the fact that it is a success.
funny thing this is one of the few games I actually enjoy more with somewhat less people lol.. for instance less people makes the DE's not oversaturated which actually makes many of them pretty challenging, less people also means no more long ass que for WvW.. guess for sPVP and dungeon runs less doesn't benefit though:P
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
With work, school, side-interest, I'm actually still enjoying the game. Log in for an hour here and there and still have fun. No subscription, no gear stat inflation, holiday events. Can't wait for the expansion pack, still waiting for SWTORs too.
I don't care if GW2 does well or not. I only care that games going forward don't all copy the current trend to make action games instead of my preferred, slower paced virtual worlds.
Originally posted by Vorthanion I don't care if GW2 does well or not. I only care that games going forward don't all copy the current trend to make action games instead of my preferred, slower paced virtual worlds.
Originally posted by Vorthanion I don't care if GW2 does well or not. I only care that games going forward don't all copy the current trend to make action games instead of my preferred, slower paced virtual worlds.
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The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.
Originally posted by Greyhooff It actually looks like the game is growing and will need extra servers again soon.
Umm why would they need new servers when they still have medium servers to merge? this situation will only arise if every single server is full in coming days which is highly unlikely. Let us not get ahead of ourselves ok?
Sure, the game isn´t udner load all the time and the situation now is becasue of the halloween events, however, the the servers of Guild Wars 2 seem always to be active. Almost, always, you find half the servers full, some high and 1 or 2 at mid, it is a reality. I am not saying GW2 is the best game in the world, nor am I a fanboi, I just want to comment all the ones who said, '' wait 2 months, and you will see the game dead ''.
PS. WvWvW is still under load, almost at all times.
Originally posted by Greyhooff It actually looks like the game is growing and will need extra servers again soon.
It has more people logging on because of the events. Don't kid yourself. The numbers will drop back down afterwards.
I'm sure they will but then there is supposed to be a big content patch in november that should bring lot of people back as well... also issue with GW2 and adding new servers is they need to add 3 if they ever did so they would need a huge influx of players which i don't see likely.. game has to many people playing right now as it is imho.. DE's are still oversaturated in many areas and que for WvW is still pretty long for eternal battlegrounds and my servers borderlands
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
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I would actually say that WoW is generally regarded as crap by many of the vocal folks on this forum, not by the MMORPG market as a whole...considering the amount of subs wow has/had.
...that should give you an idea of how reflective the attitudes of this forum are to the ideas of the entire MMORPG market.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Thats a good point, I guess for all it's fault these forums do stand above the MMO mouth breathign masses.
I just wish they would go off and find their own game genre so we can back to the traditional MMOs.
I'd just say this forum has a lot of older players who already played and are done with WoW, they left when it was good or when it was getting bad.
WoWs presence in North America is no doubt dwindling incredible fast...a lot of peple play WoW as their first MMO or even their only MMO anyways, it's like an introductory to the MMO world, but people who like MMOs in general don't seem to be playing WoW anymore.
funny, I would think someone that uses phrases like 'mouth breathing masses' would enjoy a 'childish' game like WoW
Their stance changes not base on finding acceptance of the views of their peers, but solely base on what FoTM mmorpg they are currently invested in. Sad really.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
This is what I was going to say. Without knowing what the actual population is as a full or high population sever by Anet and without knowing if it is adjusted over time, the OP is pretty pointless.
Now that I think about it this is starting to feel like SWTOR all over again... 2 months after launch everyone was saying "oh look, servers are still full and high on primetime! all you haters are just jealous the game is so successful!"
But we certainly knew the population was dwindling regardless of what the server status said.
If that were true, then the game will be lagging like hell and people are going to get disconnected like no tomorrow....
[mod edit]
After all, the Low, high, full tags are not based on bandwidth or CPU usage on the server, someone in anet simply wrote down a code line that change that little high or full tag based on the X amount of players in the game and it looks like they haven’t changed that little piece of code because the amount of people around the game right now really fits those population tags…
bottom line... u r a troll...
I look at a lot of things when I'm trying to decide if an MMO is 'good' or not. The most important one is how the people I game with are playing the game. How much time are they putting into the game? How interested are they when they talk about the game? Are they even talking about the game still?
The response to GW2 has been different from the response to Rift, SWToR and D3. They are interested in the game, and they continue to discuss the game around the office on a regular basis. They started with more than 12 hours a day game time, but have slacked off to about 4 hours a day, nearly every day. The game has been at the 4 hours a day, every day state for a few weeks.
So...what does that mean? To me, it means that GW2 is a good game.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Anet is in a better position than the other games released this year. In some ways it would actually be better if less people were playing. And that all stems from not having a sub based model. Hating on the game won't change the fact that it is a success.
funny thing this is one of the few games I actually enjoy more with somewhat less people lol.. for instance less people makes the DE's not oversaturated which actually makes many of them pretty challenging, less people also means no more long ass que for WvW.. guess for sPVP and dungeon runs less doesn't benefit though:P
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
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The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.
Carl Sagan-
i think theyve actually been increasing capacity from the start.
I'm enjoying Halloween like a ton of other people, how about yourself?
Know why that moon is smiling like that? People are buttmad because there's no evidence this game's dying.
Umm why would they need new servers when they still have medium servers to merge? this situation will only arise if every single server is full in coming days which is highly unlikely. Let us not get ahead of ourselves ok?
Sure, the game isn´t udner load all the time and the situation now is becasue of the halloween events, however, the the servers of Guild Wars 2 seem always to be active. Almost, always, you find half the servers full, some high and 1 or 2 at mid, it is a reality. I am not saying GW2 is the best game in the world, nor am I a fanboi, I just want to comment all the ones who said, '' wait 2 months, and you will see the game dead ''.
PS. WvWvW is still under load, almost at all times.
It has more people logging on because of the events. Don't kid yourself. The numbers will drop back down afterwards.
This is probably true. I'm basing this observation on the fact that's it's been true for every major patch in the history of MMOs.
Still, good to see the game doing well, might spark some more interest from developers in the future. But then again, it's still early days.
I'm sure they will but then there is supposed to be a big content patch in november that should bring lot of people back as well... also issue with GW2 and adding new servers is they need to add 3 if they ever did so they would need a huge influx of players which i don't see likely.. game has to many people playing right now as it is imho.. DE's are still oversaturated in many areas and que for WvW is still pretty long for eternal battlegrounds and my servers borderlands
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Low server capacity + halloween event = full servers.
but hey good for them.