As far as common denominator goes..all MMOS are simplistic at its best. If you want a real challenge i suggest play chess.
This is a great way to approach the problem of SWTOR. You really nailed it:
All MMOs are simple and stupid, SWTOR is an MMO
therefore SWTOR is simple and stupid.
It's a great excuse. Bioware ought to write it on the walls on the fleet. Or how about this for an advertisement: Come play Free to Play SWTOR, all MMOs are lame and this one is especially lame!
This is a great way to approach the problem of SWTOR. You really nailed it:
All MMOs are simple and stupid, SWTOR is an MMO
therefore SWTOR is simple and stupid.
It's a great excuse. Bioware ought to write it on the walls on the fleet. Or how about this for an advertisement: Come play Free to Play SWTOR, all MMOs are lame and this one is especially lame!
If you are going to quote me atleast make sure you don't try to put words into my mouth. i said MMOS are simplistic not stupid. What you say is an excuse is what how i feel after playing majority of MMOS. So yeah i find MMOS simple and nothing more than a hobby to kill some free time. Sue me.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
This is a great way to approach the problem of SWTOR. You really nailed it:
All MMOs are simple and stupid, SWTOR is an MMO
therefore SWTOR is simple and stupid.
It's a great excuse. Bioware ought to write it on the walls on the fleet. Or how about this for an advertisement: Come play Free to Play SWTOR, all MMOs are lame and this one is especially lame!
If you are going to quote me atleast make sure you don't try to put words into my mouth. i said MMOS are simplistic not stupid. What you say is an excuse is what how i feel after playing majority of MMOS. So yeah i find MMOS simple and nothing more than a hobby to kill some free time. Sue me.
I think you accurately described the process. I won't sue you, but EA might sue you for revealing their marketing plan.
Originally posted by Heretic451 I just want to know when they're going to allow player characters to sit in the thousands of chairs they've placed in the game...
From EA's previous comments about allowing sitting in all chairs being a massive undertaking, I could guess that objects in the world are not modular and were disassociated from templates when they were "hardcoded" into the world.
Thus, it's not about fixing several chair styles to make sitting universal .. EA would need to revisit each copy of a chair art and make them sittable, one by one, replacing them as objects instead of eye candy.
Upgradeability was apparently not on the plate when this game was being designed. Sad since beta testers were asking for that feature for years.
They did mention that some future chairs would be made sittable. But that could be next year, or 5 years from now. Kind of sad when a future paid for DLC will highlight a handful of chairs that can be sat on. If I ever get the chance to sit on one of them, I guarantee you I'm gonna hog it. "Get up!" .. "NO!"
Originally posted by Heretic451 I just want to know when they're going to allow player characters to sit in the thousands of chairs they've placed in the game...
From EA's previous comments about allowing sitting in all chairs being a massive undertaking, I could guess that objects in the world are not modular and were disassociated from templates when they were "hardcoded" into the world.
Thus, it's not about fixing several chair styles to make sitting universal .. EA would need to revisit each copy of a chair art and make them sittable, one by one, replacing them as objects instead of eye candy.
Upgradeability was apparently not on the plate when this game was being designed. Sad since beta testers were asking for that feature for years.
They did mention that some future chairs would be made sittable. But that could be next year, or 5 years from now. Kind of sad when a future paid for DLC will highlight a handful of chairs that can be sat on. If I ever get the chance to sit on one of them, I guarantee you I'm gonna hog it. "Get up!" .. "NO!"
You cant make a Star Wars MMO without some obvious important element being left out. For SWG it was a 3rd axis of movement. For SWTOR it's the rest of Newtonian physics.
Along with wow, swtor is my no1 game. Worst problem swtor had since start was not at all swtor itself ... but haters that have spread around even faster then those of wow. They have been bashing game over and over again in all possible forums. Majority never actually I guess played it.
But is truth i know many that do not like at all story telling, they would if possible just jump to end game, etc. Never ever all players will be happy with same game. This is mission impossible.
I love every bit of swtor, immersion, combat, story telling ... and particularly I lOVE VOICED ACTING. Ful voiced acting in all quests (great, but unfort only in starting area, were also of Aoc).
Voice acting was great and all, and it still is the best leveling experiance in any MMO..but with that said, its issue was not "haters", its issue was itself. I was sooo stoked when it launched, you wouldnt believe. Everything was amaizing, i couldnt have asked for more. In fact, I was so pleased, i had actually not renewed my WoW sub....then I hit endgame....and started raiding....cleared through the "hardmode" raids in 1 night...not to mention bugging out the puzzle boss in karaga's palace...also not to mention with master looter option turned on, we all realised we couldnt do a /roll for gear....wtf.... then also noticing there was no combat log what so ever, we would die, and wernt able to see what killed us..then there was the GCD issue that screwed us up doing nightmare modes, where 1 heal not going off causes the tank to die...something that was there even after tier 2 launched....after all the broken fundementals, I finally had enough, as did many I imagine.
Along with wow, swtor is my no1 game. Worst problem swtor had since start was not at all swtor itself ... but haters that have spread around even faster then those of wow. They have been bashing game over and over again in all possible forums. Majority never actually I guess played it.
But is truth i know many that do not like at all story telling, they would if possible just jump to end game, etc. Never ever all players will be happy with same game. This is mission impossible.
I love every bit of swtor, immersion, combat, story telling ... and particularly I lOVE VOICED ACTING. Ful voiced acting in all quests (great, but unfort only in starting area, were also of Aoc).
Voice acting was great and all, and it still is the best leveling experiance in any MMO..but with that said, its issue was not "haters", its issue was itself. I was sooo stoked when it launched, you wouldnt believe. Everything was amaizing, i couldnt have asked for more. In fact, I was so pleased, i had actually not renewed my WoW sub....then I hit endgame....and started raiding....cleared through the "hardmode" raids in 1 night...not to mention bugging out the puzzle boss in karaga's palace...also not to mention with master looter option turned on, we all realised we couldnt do a /roll for gear....wtf.... then also noticing there was no combat log what so ever, we would die, and wernt able to see what killed us..then there was the GCD issue that screwed us up doing nightmare modes, where 1 heal not going off causes the tank to die...something that was there even after tier 2 launched....after all the broken fundementals, I finally had enough, as did many I imagine.
pretty much... THIS
The inability to perform a seemless combat due to the Ability Lag, if nothing else, it ruins the game.
Originally posted by Heretic451 I just want to know when they're going to allow player characters to sit in the thousands of chairs they've placed in the game...
From EA's previous comments about allowing sitting in all chairs being a massive undertaking, I could guess that objects in the world are not modular and were disassociated from templates when they were "hardcoded" into the world.
Thus, it's not about fixing several chair styles to make sitting universal .. EA would need to revisit each copy of a chair art and make them sittable, one by one, replacing them as objects instead of eye candy.
Upgradeability was apparently not on the plate when this game was being designed. Sad since beta testers were asking for that feature for years.
They did mention that some future chairs would be made sittable. But that could be next year, or 5 years from now. Kind of sad when a future paid for DLC will highlight a handful of chairs that can be sat on. If I ever get the chance to sit on one of them, I guarantee you I'm gonna hog it. "Get up!" .. "NO!"
Heheh. Well, you can sit on the chairs in your cockpits, and the ones in the world can be sat in by NPCs (which looks curiously like you sitting in your cockpit's), and they're solid, and mostly sized correctly...
I really think they're completey full of it.
Such a simple thing, like all the other fluff that was ignored. And where the hell is our Pazaak?
WoW where does the guy that wrote this article come up with this stuff??!!
Seriously you think Bioware asked its players what they wanted in SW:TOR and they said we want F2P? I've seen alot of request from players for more story content which Bioware did not release during its first full year. I've seen requests for free roaming space or a secret space project which of course Bioware is totally ignoring in favor of what F2P with Biowares now trade mark paid DLC. of course most of that now paid for DLC was originally planned for free release last year. thats EA/ware for you if they can't nickle and dime you for release day DLC then they'll just hold the content till later when they can charge for it.
Making free romaing space and all that in this Engine is a no-go. This runs on the SAME EXACT but newer engine of Champions Online or City of Heroes. The HERO Engine. Not everything people ask for is possbile and that kind of ignorance saying "They're ignoring us" Is silly. Yes they are nickle and diming but that does not mean they're ignoring you.
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This is a great way to approach the problem of SWTOR. You really nailed it:
All MMOs are simple and stupid, SWTOR is an MMO
therefore SWTOR is simple and stupid.
It's a great excuse. Bioware ought to write it on the walls on the fleet. Or how about this for an advertisement: Come play Free to Play SWTOR, all MMOs are lame and this one is especially lame!
Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011
If you are going to quote me atleast make sure you don't try to put words into my mouth. i said MMOS are simplistic not stupid. What you say is an excuse is what how i feel after playing majority of MMOS. So yeah i find MMOS simple and nothing more than a hobby to kill some free time. Sue me.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
I think you accurately described the process. I won't sue you, but EA might sue you for revealing their marketing plan.
Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011
From EA's previous comments about allowing sitting in all chairs being a massive undertaking, I could guess that objects in the world are not modular and were disassociated from templates when they were "hardcoded" into the world.
Thus, it's not about fixing several chair styles to make sitting universal .. EA would need to revisit each copy of a chair art and make them sittable, one by one, replacing them as objects instead of eye candy.
Upgradeability was apparently not on the plate when this game was being designed. Sad since beta testers were asking for that feature for years.
They did mention that some future chairs would be made sittable. But that could be next year, or 5 years from now. Kind of sad when a future paid for DLC will highlight a handful of chairs that can be sat on. If I ever get the chance to sit on one of them, I guarantee you I'm gonna hog it. "Get up!" .. "NO!"
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
You cant make a Star Wars MMO without some obvious important element being left out. For SWG it was a 3rd axis of movement. For SWTOR it's the rest of Newtonian physics.
Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011
http://www.youtube.com/user/chopgr?feature=mhee
"The Heavens burned, the stars
cried out
And under the ashes of infinity,
Hope, scarred and bleeding,
breathed its last."
pretty much... THIS
The inability to perform a seemless combat due to the Ability Lag, if nothing else, it ruins the game.
http://www.youtube.com/user/chopgr?feature=mhee
"The Heavens burned, the stars
cried out
And under the ashes of infinity,
Hope, scarred and bleeding,
breathed its last."
Heheh. Well, you can sit on the chairs in your cockpits, and the ones in the world can be sat in by NPCs (which looks curiously like you sitting in your cockpit's), and they're solid, and mostly sized correctly...
I really think they're completey full of it.
Such a simple thing, like all the other fluff that was ignored. And where the hell is our Pazaak?
Taking about roleplaying...
This is the magnificent piece of work
Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFSbxC7nEZQ
Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E
Well done! A bunch of fans is able to move cameras in cutscenes, something Bioware is unable (or too lazy) to do.
The game would be much more enjoyable if they wouldn´t have those extremely static cinematics.
Secrets of Dragon?s Spine Trailer.. !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwT9cFVQCMw
Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
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Making free romaing space and all that in this Engine is a no-go. This runs on the SAME EXACT but newer engine of Champions Online or City of Heroes. The HERO Engine. Not everything people ask for is possbile and that kind of ignorance saying "They're ignoring us" Is silly. Yes they are nickle and diming but that does not mean they're ignoring you.