Originally posted by PerfArt Bowbow, I can't think of a better poster on these forums for this to happen to. You have some great insights and a real passion for this game's vision, and I feel that we will see a better finished product because of your involvement.
/salute!
I totally agree with Perf. Testing CU would not be complete without you in it.:) Grats to you!
This community is very reminicent of old times, i cant wait to move to the closed forums and takee you all with me, since you all have skin in the game. BOWBOW and ANON congratz and have fun hitting each other with hammers.
First of all...I need to say that this is my first post ever on this forum and yes...I just made this account right now because of this thread !! I come here every day to read stuff about the games I love and the ones I hope I sure will one day.
Well, today...what I saw from this community just pushed me to join you and I hope ill be able to find my place with you guy's.
I am currently thinking myself of how much I can afford to put on the KS, but I know ill find for me the good amount of money to put on Camelot Unchained project.
For me everything started when I was 12 years old and found out about Ultima Online in 1997 ! Ohh god ! wow ! That game totaly changed my life. ( To the people who still trying to figure out my age now...here's a tip..28 !! ). Couple years later, well I was playing Dark Age of Camelot....and for many years !!
I hope CU will bring back good community like it was once !
First of all...I need to say that this is my first post ever on this forum and yes...I just made this account right now because of this thread !! I come here every day to read stuff about the games I love and the ones I hope I sure will one day.
Well, today...what I saw from this community just pushed me to join you and I hope ill be able to find my place with you guy's.
I am currently thinking myself of how much I can afford to put on the KS, but I know ill find for me the good amount of money to put on Camelot Unchained project.
For me everything started when I was 12 years old and found out about Ultima Online in 1997 ! Ohh god ! wow ! That game totaly changed my life. ( To the people who still trying to figure out my age now...here's a tip..28 !! ). Couple years later, well I was playing Dark Age of Camelot....and for many years !!
I hope CU will bring back good community like it was once !
Thank you for reading !
Welcome aboard chief. Your insights, criticisms and eagerness will be well suited here.
First of all...I need to say that this is my first post ever on this forum and yes...I just made this account right now because of this thread !! I come here every day to read stuff about the games I love and the ones I hope I sure will one day.
Well, today...what I saw from this community just pushed me to join you and I hope ill be able to find my place with you guy's.
I am currently thinking myself of how much I can afford to put on the KS, but I know ill find for me the good amount of money to put on Camelot Unchained project.
For me everything started when I was 12 years old and found out about Ultima Online in 1997 ! Ohh god ! wow ! That game totaly changed my life. ( To the people who still trying to figure out my age now...here's a tip..28 !! ). Couple years later, well I was playing Dark Age of Camelot....and for many years !!
I hope CU will bring back good community like it was once !
Thank you for reading !
Welcome David !
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC Thurka on WAR
First of all...I need to say that this is my first post ever on this forum and yes...I just made this account right now because of this thread !! I come here every day to read stuff about the games I love and the ones I hope I sure will one day.
Well, today...what I saw from this community just pushed me to join you and I hope ill be able to find my place with you guy's.
I am currently thinking myself of how much I can afford to put on the KS, but I know ill find for me the good amount of money to put on Camelot Unchained project.
For me everything started when I was 12 years old and found out about Ultima Online in 1997 ! Ohh god ! wow ! That game totaly changed my life. ( To the people who still trying to figure out my age now...here's a tip..28 !! ). Couple years later, well I was playing Dark Age of Camelot....and for many years !!
I hope CU will bring back good community like it was once !
Generosity is a thing that i'm not quite used to, when i'm the person being helped. But today someone here on our forums made me feel totally great.
I wont mention the person's name, because if i was him i'd prefer to keep my generosity anonymous.
I wasnt able to back enough money to be part of the IT Tier, but this person told me this :
Much of the same for me, minus the kids
If you want, tell me what the mail for your paypal account is and I'll send you the 70 bucks to upgrade. I think CU will be a better game with you testing it. Better hurry though, that 180-tier is disappearing quickly
I really want to say a big THANK YOU ! man, for the generosity and the trust you put in me, and in CU of course, as you and i, and many others want this game to launch.
Now excuse me, i have a CU's KS to upgrade
Once a gain, Thank you !
Bowbow -- you are one of the reasons I have become so active in this campaign. I can tell you, I have hit the social media hard the last week or so to get the word out about the KS. You are partly responsible for a lot of folks being excited about this game and about the messages so many of us have spread to the MMO community .... congrats to you and we are better off having you in the IT tier.
I find smaller communities are so much more helpful in game and out of game. Grats to you on your it pledge:) Big hearty pat on the back to your helpful contributor.
Just think a mass part of society think Gamers are just violent and agressive people instead of respectable, helpful, and decent citizens. Wish those people could read stories like yours.
As I told you on JoL, I like your posts, they are always relevant and you deserve that charitable contribution. I 'd be MJ I would have give you access to IT anyway
First of all...I need to say that this is my first post ever on this forum and yes...I just made this account right now because of this thread !! I come here every day to read stuff about the games I love and the ones I hope I sure will one day.
Well, today...what I saw from this community just pushed me to join you and I hope ill be able to find my place with you guy's.
I am currently thinking myself of how much I can afford to put on the KS, but I know ill find for me the good amount of money to put on Camelot Unchained project.
For me everything started when I was 12 years old and found out about Ultima Online in 1997 ! Ohh god ! wow ! That game totaly changed my life. ( To the people who still trying to figure out my age now...here's a tip..28 !! ). Couple years later, well I was playing Dark Age of Camelot....and for many years !!
I hope CU will bring back good community like it was once !
Bowbow -- you are one of the reasons I have become so active in this campaign. I can tell you, I have hit the social media hard the last week or so to get the word out about the KS. You are partly responsible for a lot of folks being excited about this game and about the messages so many of us have spread to the MMO community .... congrats to you and we are better off having you in the IT tier.
Cheers,
Vymm
Thank you Vymm !
I think that every "emotion" is contagious in a way, and its needless to say that i'm probably in the top 100 of players who are the most excited about CU. On top of that, discussing this all the time with many others dedicated "players" fills a gap that RL cannot provide at the moment due to many things, wich makes me appreciate you guys/girls even more.
I'm really happy if i contributed in any way to have even more dedicated serious players like you being "active" about CU's whole project, whether it concerns Kickstarter, or every thing else related to the game and community.
But truly, it is CSE who is making the magic happens, i'm just one of the guys that is pretty excited about it, and because i talk alot well you're stuck with my constant babbling about CU and life in general :P
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC Thurka on WAR
As I told you on JoL, I like your posts, they are always relevant and you deserve that charitable contribution. I 'd be MJ I would have give you access to IT anyway
Thanks mysterious donator !
Keep up the good work !
I'm not sure i would have accepted it, i then would have felt like a "favorite student". I'm all about fairness. and to be totally honest, since i'm not a techie, if i think or am told during IT process that i'm not good at this phase, well i'll be happy to transfert the IT access to someone who can do a better job than i.
In the end, we're here for CU's success, not our own.
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC Thurka on WAR
The people who are standing up to be heard on this thread demonstrate more eloquently than most anything I could think of why I am so excited about even the possibility of this game.
I said it on the KS comments and I will say it here: WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY BACK!
If you give us things to do and solve and plan for that we can't accomplish by being selfish....complicated things that we need to communicate about, not just raid strategies we need to memorize -or apparently if you even talk about giving us something like that...
.... this is what you get.
Not everywhere, not all the time, certainly not with every person, but enough that it makes an impact - so that the helpful, interested, engaged people don't have to hide in their guild chats.
<grins and waits for the trolls to come over the wall> BRING IT.
Another reason to believe that Good can triumph over Evil, because Evil is dumb. (I know I skewered that!)
Seriously though, there are good, kind-hearted people out there who actually think outside of themselves, give of themselves, and make others feel good. The cup is half full.
Unless you're talking about Albion. Then, the cup is completely full...plus 4 groups.
But seriously, nice story and I'm glad for you, Bow.
There's nothing for me to add that someone else before me hasn't already said better, so I'll just chime in here and say that reading your posts was also a motivator for me to join this community. A huge thanks to MysteryContributerX who lent you a hand - he or she didn't just help you, but helped all of us by making sure you were right where you needed to be in the process.
Also, a hearty welcome aboard to David.
Can't wait to beat your face in or heal your face off depending on where we all end up. :P
I wasn't on this server, but participated in something like this on a somewhat smaller scale on (I think) Gawaine, where all three realms turned out in the frontier to memorialize a player who had died. Thinking about it still makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
The level of caring and support and just plain honorable behavior that is gathering around this enture CU project makes me believe there are other people besides me who want the same thing. Lots of them.
I wasn't on this server, but participated in something like this on a somewhat smaller scale on (I think) Gawaine, where all three realms turned out in the frontier to memorialize a player who had died. Thinking about it still makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
The level of caring and support and just plain honorable behavior that is gathering around this enture CU project makes me believe there are other people besides me who want the same thing. Lots of them.
Thanks again for sharing, Bow.
I was on that server and at that event. It was quite a thing. I'm not all that into "in game funerals." I know they usually get invaded, ambushed, or interrupted, and maybe do go too far for a "virtual" reality. Not to mention the false alarms and practical jokes faking real life deaths. Usually, I just stay silent on anything like this, ignore them, and go around.
However, Teletha's memorial was special.
It was announced a day or two beforehand that Tel had passed. I didn't know her, she played on Midgard and I was on Albion. But all three realms interacted on the VN Boards and the vast majority of people got along. There were a few fights and dramas, but 99% of the people from all the realms were there for a good time. So, when the Mid players all said Tel was a sweetheart and the whole realm loved her, the other two realms didn't question anything. There was no doubt about the authenticity of her passing.
So, Kallisti, a female minstrel from Alb, played by a little British dude (still the stuff of running gags on Galahad forums), organized the memorial. He told everyone to wear black in all three realms and if you wanted, change your last name to something for the memorial. When the time came Albs and Hibs ported into Odin's and the Mids walked from Svasud till we all met.
It was stunning how almost everyone was wearing black and how many had changed their last name to something like RIPTELETHA or similar. And we walked in procession the whole way from the portal keep to the meeting spot. Took a while, maybe 20 minutes, half an hour, can't remember, but nobody left rank or screwed around too much.
At the memorial everyone just kind of hung out. It was in the middle of the frontiers, so to have 500 people from all three realms at once, with no fighting, was exotic, and people all emoted and stuff and just sat around taking screenshots with members of the opposite faction.
There was one more thing that bears mentioning. The GMs from Mythic allowed Kallisti to log on to each realm to set everything up. That's right, they knew the memorial was going to happen and that it was going to happen in the frontiers, which everyone knows, it was kind of a no-no to set up fights and stuff in the frontiers. But Mythic gave special permission for this, and even more. They gave Kallisti access to a character in Midgard and Hibernia each to log on and get everyone on the same page. He also was able to record from each realm's side for the video that way.
Kallisti was a minstrel team lead, so that probably helped, but still, the memorial never would've occurred without Mythic's approval and aid. I wonder if that would happen on a WoW server.
Her boyfriend, naturally, took everything very, very hard, which is perfectly understandable. However, everyone reacts differently when death touches them and I remember him expressing deep grief on the VN boards. I also remember he disappeared from the game and the boards afterwards. But he came back into the game one day a few weeks later, not to play, but just to thank everyone, from every realm, who attended the memorial. He said that word of the number of players who showed up reached the family and they were stunned. They may even have posted a personal thank you somewhere to the Galahad community. I seem to remember something like that from a family member.
There's no way a computer game "memorial" could offer even the slightest solace to a family burying a 23-year-old girl. It was an odd thing, everyone moving pixels around in a video game to honor someone that most never met in "real" life and hardly even encountered in the game. But it was a statement about the people there and the people from Mythic who enabled it: There are more important things than loot drops and leaderboards and rules in a video game manual.
The internet doesn't connect people in flesh and blood, but in some invisible way, we're all the same. Maybe nowhere moreso than the mind and heart. As it says in The Little Prince, "What is essential, is invisible to the eye." I like to think DAoC'ers get that.
Anyway, thought I would share that to give the non-DAoC'ers a perspective of the kind of people I frequently encountered in the game. Nowhere have I seen a group of like-minded people in a game as in DAoC.
There's no way a computer game "memorial" could offer even the slightest solace to a family burying a 23-year-old girl. It was an odd thing, everyone moving pixels around in a video game to honor someone that most never met in "real" life and hardly even encountered in the game. But it was a statement about the people there and the people from Mythic who enabled it: There are more important things than loot drops and leaderboards and rules in a video game manual.
The internet doesn't connect people in flesh and blood, but in some invisible way, we're all the same. Maybe nowhere moreso than the mind and heart. As it says in The Little Prince, "What is essential, is invisible to the eye." I like to think DAoC'ers get that.
Anyway, thought I would share that to give the non-DAoC'ers a perspective of the kind of people I frequently encountered in the game. Nowhere have I seen a group of like-minded people in a game as in DAoC.
Thanks, kap. You said it better than I could possibly have done.
Although i wasnt there, ( i was on a different server ), i remember hearing about it afterwards and i was touched by it, it really showed that "being ennemies" was just an in-game matter, as behind every keyobard there were real persons and most of them being really nice people.
There are some games that seems to attract specific kind of people, and DAoC (and hopefully CU) is the type of game that attracts the good ones.
Looking forward to play with you all !
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC Thurka on WAR
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Very nice.
I look forward to playing with ya'll.
Burgy
I totally agree with Perf. Testing CU would not be complete without you in it.:) Grats to you!
This community is very reminicent of old times, i cant wait to move to the closed forums and takee you all with me, since you all have skin in the game. BOWBOW and ANON congratz and have fun hitting each other with hammers.
Wow !
First of all...I need to say that this is my first post ever on this forum and yes...I just made this account right now because of this thread !! I come here every day to read stuff about the games I love and the ones I hope I sure will one day.
Well, today...what I saw from this community just pushed me to join you and I hope ill be able to find my place with you guy's.
I am currently thinking myself of how much I can afford to put on the KS, but I know ill find for me the good amount of money to put on Camelot Unchained project.
For me everything started when I was 12 years old and found out about Ultima Online in 1997 ! Ohh god ! wow ! That game totaly changed my life. ( To the people who still trying to figure out my age now...here's a tip..28 !! ). Couple years later, well I was playing Dark Age of Camelot....and for many years !!
I hope CU will bring back good community like it was once !
Thank you for reading !
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Welcome aboard chief. Your insights, criticisms and eagerness will be well suited here.
Welcome David !
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC
Thurka on WAR
Welcome David, glad you are here.:)
Generosity is a thing that i'm not quite used to, when i'm the person being helped. But today someone here on our forums made me feel totally great.
I wont mention the person's name, because if i was him i'd prefer to keep my generosity anonymous.
I wasnt able to back enough money to be part of the IT Tier, but this person told me this :
Much of the same for me, minus the kids
If you want, tell me what the mail for your paypal account is and I'll send you the 70 bucks to upgrade.
I think CU will be a better game with you testing it.
Better hurry though, that 180-tier is disappearing quickly
I really want to say a big THANK YOU ! man, for the generosity and the trust you put in me, and in CU of course, as you and i, and many others want this game to launch.
Now excuse me, i have a CU's KS to upgrade
Once a gain, Thank you !
Bowbow -- you are one of the reasons I have become so active in this campaign. I can tell you, I have hit the social media hard the last week or so to get the word out about the KS. You are partly responsible for a lot of folks being excited about this game and about the messages so many of us have spread to the MMO community .... congrats to you and we are better off having you in the IT tier.
Cheers,
Vymm
I find smaller communities are so much more helpful in game and out of game. Grats to you on your it pledge:) Big hearty pat on the back to your helpful contributor.
Just think a mass part of society think Gamers are just violent and agressive people instead of respectable, helpful, and decent citizens. Wish those people could read stories like yours.
As I told you on JoL, I like your posts, they are always relevant and you deserve that charitable contribution. I 'd be MJ I would have give you access to IT anyway
Thanks mysterious donator !
Keep up the good work !
Welcome aboard this CU train David!
Thank you Vymm !
I think that every "emotion" is contagious in a way, and its needless to say that i'm probably in the top 100 of players who are the most excited about CU. On top of that, discussing this all the time with many others dedicated "players" fills a gap that RL cannot provide at the moment due to many things, wich makes me appreciate you guys/girls even more.
I'm really happy if i contributed in any way to have even more dedicated serious players like you being "active" about CU's whole project, whether it concerns Kickstarter, or every thing else related to the game and community.
But truly, it is CSE who is making the magic happens, i'm just one of the guys that is pretty excited about it, and because i talk alot well you're stuck with my constant babbling about CU and life in general :P
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC
Thurka on WAR
I'm not sure i would have accepted it, i then would have felt like a "favorite student". I'm all about fairness. and to be totally honest, since i'm not a techie, if i think or am told during IT process that i'm not good at this phase, well i'll be happy to transfert the IT access to someone who can do a better job than i.
In the end, we're here for CU's success, not our own.
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC
Thurka on WAR
Great thread, Bow...and welcome, David.
The people who are standing up to be heard on this thread demonstrate more eloquently than most anything I could think of why I am so excited about even the possibility of this game.
I said it on the KS comments and I will say it here: WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY BACK!
If you give us things to do and solve and plan for that we can't accomplish by being selfish....complicated things that we need to communicate about, not just raid strategies we need to memorize -or apparently if you even talk about giving us something like that...
.... this is what you get.
Not everywhere, not all the time, certainly not with every person, but enough that it makes an impact - so that the helpful, interested, engaged people don't have to hide in their guild chats.
<grins and waits for the trolls to come over the wall> BRING IT.
Unless you're talking about Albion. Then, the cup is completely full...plus 4 groups.
But seriously, nice story and I'm glad for you, Bow.
There's nothing for me to add that someone else before me hasn't already said better, so I'll just chime in here and say that reading your posts was also a motivator for me to join this community. A huge thanks to MysteryContributerX who lent you a hand - he or she didn't just help you, but helped all of us by making sure you were right where you needed to be in the process.
Also, a hearty welcome aboard to David.
Can't wait to beat your face in or heal your face off depending on where we all end up. :P
I keep going on about community in these threads for one simple reason...
I want to play games once more with a whole bunch of people who are capable of something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wQdFGmf30
I wasn't on this server, but participated in something like this on a somewhat smaller scale on (I think) Gawaine, where all three realms turned out in the frontier to memorialize a player who had died. Thinking about it still makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
The level of caring and support and just plain honorable behavior that is gathering around this enture CU project makes me believe there are other people besides me who want the same thing. Lots of them.
Thanks again for sharing, Bow.
I was on that server and at that event. It was quite a thing. I'm not all that into "in game funerals." I know they usually get invaded, ambushed, or interrupted, and maybe do go too far for a "virtual" reality. Not to mention the false alarms and practical jokes faking real life deaths. Usually, I just stay silent on anything like this, ignore them, and go around.
However, Teletha's memorial was special.
It was announced a day or two beforehand that Tel had passed. I didn't know her, she played on Midgard and I was on Albion. But all three realms interacted on the VN Boards and the vast majority of people got along. There were a few fights and dramas, but 99% of the people from all the realms were there for a good time. So, when the Mid players all said Tel was a sweetheart and the whole realm loved her, the other two realms didn't question anything. There was no doubt about the authenticity of her passing.
So, Kallisti, a female minstrel from Alb, played by a little British dude (still the stuff of running gags on Galahad forums), organized the memorial. He told everyone to wear black in all three realms and if you wanted, change your last name to something for the memorial. When the time came Albs and Hibs ported into Odin's and the Mids walked from Svasud till we all met.
It was stunning how almost everyone was wearing black and how many had changed their last name to something like RIPTELETHA or similar. And we walked in procession the whole way from the portal keep to the meeting spot. Took a while, maybe 20 minutes, half an hour, can't remember, but nobody left rank or screwed around too much.
At the memorial everyone just kind of hung out. It was in the middle of the frontiers, so to have 500 people from all three realms at once, with no fighting, was exotic, and people all emoted and stuff and just sat around taking screenshots with members of the opposite faction.
There was one more thing that bears mentioning. The GMs from Mythic allowed Kallisti to log on to each realm to set everything up. That's right, they knew the memorial was going to happen and that it was going to happen in the frontiers, which everyone knows, it was kind of a no-no to set up fights and stuff in the frontiers. But Mythic gave special permission for this, and even more. They gave Kallisti access to a character in Midgard and Hibernia each to log on and get everyone on the same page. He also was able to record from each realm's side for the video that way.
Kallisti was a minstrel team lead, so that probably helped, but still, the memorial never would've occurred without Mythic's approval and aid. I wonder if that would happen on a WoW server.
Her boyfriend, naturally, took everything very, very hard, which is perfectly understandable. However, everyone reacts differently when death touches them and I remember him expressing deep grief on the VN boards. I also remember he disappeared from the game and the boards afterwards. But he came back into the game one day a few weeks later, not to play, but just to thank everyone, from every realm, who attended the memorial. He said that word of the number of players who showed up reached the family and they were stunned. They may even have posted a personal thank you somewhere to the Galahad community. I seem to remember something like that from a family member.
There's no way a computer game "memorial" could offer even the slightest solace to a family burying a 23-year-old girl. It was an odd thing, everyone moving pixels around in a video game to honor someone that most never met in "real" life and hardly even encountered in the game. But it was a statement about the people there and the people from Mythic who enabled it: There are more important things than loot drops and leaderboards and rules in a video game manual.
The internet doesn't connect people in flesh and blood, but in some invisible way, we're all the same. Maybe nowhere moreso than the mind and heart. As it says in The Little Prince, "What is essential, is invisible to the eye." I like to think DAoC'ers get that.
Anyway, thought I would share that to give the non-DAoC'ers a perspective of the kind of people I frequently encountered in the game. Nowhere have I seen a group of like-minded people in a game as in DAoC.
Thanks, kap. You said it better than I could possibly have done.
Thanks Kap for sharing.
Although i wasnt there, ( i was on a different server ), i remember hearing about it afterwards and i was touched by it, it really showed that "being ennemies" was just an in-game matter, as behind every keyobard there were real persons and most of them being really nice people.
There are some games that seems to attract specific kind of people, and DAoC (and hopefully CU) is the type of game that attracts the good ones.
Looking forward to play with you all !
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC
Thurka on WAR