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Beta? Marketing spin. They have a working cash shop which is open for business and taking in revenue. It's launched, period. It's the same as a subscription game charging $15 a month for Beta, which you'd never sit still for. I already said it once but I'll say it again:
Once a game's business model kicks in and starts to generate revenue, that game is launched. It doesn't matter what the business model is.
But I agree it does show an interest in the game, that's the one positive thing to be taken from this.
^^ This. The "it's beta" excuse is old, weak, and lame. Once you start taking money, it ain't beta. Beta used to imply "free" because why would you pay for an unfinished or trial product (the players got something by getting a free or early taste and the company got to test server load and such things before launch, so it was a win-win), but somewhere along the line, this idea of "paid beta" was sold to players. Which is complete BS: they whole and entire point of testing is to prevent problems like these, not use it as a marketing tool and make some $$$. Typical Cryptic here.Back in the day Cryptic's first MMO, City of Heroes, actually had a comparatively smoother launch than Neverwinter so far.
And that's back when MMO launches would crash more than a teen that's driving while simultaneously putting on makeup, texting friends, and seat dancing to some Taylor Swift song in an SUV with 4 bent wheels and no brakes.
true but your forgetting a few things, mainly that the group that is made up of cryptic now is not the same people that it was made up of back then, diffrent company, diffrent people.
to many things have changed but then agian, my fanboy is showing so i guess im a bit bias on this.
also to be fair alot of it ws due to NCsoft, as much as i dislike them.
F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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Ahhh... so I guess all those Kickstarter campaigns are fully released products.
One big applause for this guy.
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Beta? Marketing spin. They have a working cash shop which is open for business and taking in revenue. It's launched, period. It's the same as a subscription game charging $15 a month for Beta, which you'd never sit still for. I already said it once but I'll say it again:
Once a game's business model kicks in and starts to generate revenue, that game is launched. It doesn't matter what the business model is.
But I agree it does show an interest in the game, that's the one positive thing to be taken from this.
^^ This. The "it's beta" excuse is old, weak, and lame. Once you start taking money, it ain't beta.Ahhh... so I guess all those Kickstarter campaigns are fully released products.
One big applause for this guy.
Frankly, that is even more silly: you are paying for the hope that a game will eventually release. KS for MMOs is inherently a bad idea, based on the money requirements to make something decent and chances that the game will actually be good anyway. But you know what they say about fools and their money...Patch inc today.
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You know these companies can rent extra capacity right? They don't have to permanently buy all the hardware.
They can just rent extra blades in the DataCenter they are using to cope with launch and then reduce it again later on!
That was the whole idea behind the Super Server Infrastructure model Cryptic uses with their games CO, STO and now Neverwinter.
But that's not proof; it's anecdotal conjecture. Providing more nameless people to contribute their own anecdotal conjecture is not proof, either. The question was not whether or not there was a problem. The question was how Cryptic dealt with the problem, which you stated was, "They just tell people they are looking into it, while the truth is that they just wait till enough people get fed up trying and the servers settle down themselves."
It was asked that you provide proof for this, which requires more than you just stating your experience of the problem itself. How is it you know that Cryptic made no attempt to fix the problem?
The cash shop was open during closed beta. I guess that means the closed beta was a full launch? LOL! Of course, if you knew anything about PWE, you'd know that they open up the cash shop during closed beta as SOP (and refund Zen during character wipes). It's how they fund the game's development. Now don't get me wrong, I think it's completely contrary to the way bigger companies do things, but it seems to work for them (so far). The Cash Shop & early access purchases are like preorders & early-access for subbed games. It's how the development is being funded for NW (since STO has been nothing but a drain on Cryptic/PWE's resources).
Of course, the official "Live Launch" date is June 20, which anyone who's actually been paying attention to the dev notes would know. That makes less than 2 months of open beta - completely destroying JeroKane's claim.
See, you can't just make up your own personal, narrow definitions for industry terms like "beta" and "official launch," then expect everyone else - least of all the actual companies who use them - to adhere to those definitions.
As for not being able to get in to the game: it's been addressed on NW's Twitter page & forums. Too many people patching at once. "Be patient" is the phrase of the day.
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