Originally posted by nightmaarez does WildStar seem a little goofy/kid-ish? The graphics are fine, but it just seems like they have a non-serious approach on how an MMO should be. I just saw what the Settler class is like, and it sounds weird for an MMO. Putting down blocks to protect your friends, building villages, putting down merchants? It sounds like something from Club Penguin. In my opinion, it just seems like Carbine Studios is not being as serious as they should be. Now I have barely done any research, but from what I have seen so far it looks like a game that a 10 year old would play on the Wii U. Carbine also hasn't shown us much gameplay, so we can't really see if WildStar is kid-ish, or an "adult/mature" MMO like WoW or Rift. Just my two cents
Actually there is a good amount of game play available on their website and on youtube. As for the child theme, I'll agree the graphics are childish but the theme is more grown up if you've seen any of the official videos. As for Carbine Studios they are taking a humorous approach at their game and have been ever since the initial CGI trailer.
Idk, waiting to see first hand through beta personally anyway.
Yes, it is not serious all the time, but it can be epic when needed, at least so it seems from what I have seen when fighting giant mecha-like robots or things like that.
At the end a game must be fun and the best games are the ones that pick a theme and realize it.
For example Firefly has plenty of humor in it, would you say it is a childish tv series?
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
i think they are advertising 'light', but when it comes down to the nitty gritty they can switch their 'Darkside' on like a switch. The advantage of the 'cartoonistic' medium they have chosen is that someone could get cut in half and it would still be regarded as being slightly naughty rather than gratuitous......I would love a 'Dawn of the Dead MMO' full bore .... but realistically...no chance. #
I like the direction of Wildstar ... I see more South Park about it than Disney..... potentially
No they don't be, lighten up and have a bit of fun, I don't want a super serious game, the happy and silly tone of the game is something that's rare to see these days.
There isn't anything wrong with the game being too positive and happy, or too dark, the game is just what it is, and not every game is going to appeal to everyone.
For example, I like path of exile and how the game works, but the game is far too dark and depressing for me to enjoy, the game literally screams death and it's too hardcore for a wimp like me. It's not a bad game at all, it's just a game that isn't for me.
Carbine takes a forwardly humorous approach to making the game, as in they incorporate comedy into all levels. As for the actual game mechanics not fitting a "serious" MMO, I don't know what's childish about player involvement in world design... It's not a traditional kind of feature for a large game like Wildstar, but most people would say that's a good thing.
Whatever. I don't even know why I reply to threads like this.
Silly to say its kiddish, if so just more humorous. To me, a game doesn't need to be dead serious, it often just makes it far less enjoyable in many cases. Maturity can be the most immature... I know, sounds weird but its true. When we think mature we might think dark, sex, and violence. Often, the sex and violence itself tends to be played in a way that is just not mature, just being there for the sake of being there. It doesn't really contribute to the world much at all, just meant to be there for the purpose of 'ooo people like that'. In that regard, it can be just as 'kiddie' having that stuff pushed into a game.
That being said, naturally some people aren't into a game that doesn't take itself that seriously, going for that humor edge. If your discrediting a game because "it looks to kiddie" since it doesn't have certain elements emphasized or they use a certain graphic style, then in reality, that is a rather 'kiddie' way to judge things.
OP I completely agree with you even though I will still try this game like I do every new release so I can form an accurate opinion. Just be advised that when I created a thread and said 15 year old target audience, the mods renamed the thread, so they may be even more ridiculously sensitive to you using a reference that is 5 years younger than my reference, though mine was in the title lol.
Of course there will be always be adults who still like Saturday morning cartoons, or prefer the goofiness (I mean, I still watch animated movies where I know that the target audience is younger than me), etc, but anyone that denies that the 'target audience' wouldn't be a much 'younger' generation is smoking something.
Yep, just you any anyone else like you that sees any sign of more stylized art than realism and has a knee jerk response. Is it that hard to enjoy a good pixar or animated film?
Originally posted by chakalaka Funny post OP, I laughed funny stuff. Although I like the silly humour (even at all times) I would agree that a more mature sense of humor closer to what Gearbox did with Borderlands 1 and 2 is what I really like the most!! Cheers!
Nothing against Borderlands, but the humor is seriously cliche cheese and corn fed straight to you! I find WildStar's humor, the little that has been shown, to be of a higher quality
does WildStar seem a little goofy/kid-ish? The graphics are fine, but it just seems like they have a non-serious approach on how an MMO should be. I just saw what the Settler class is like, and it sounds weird for an MMO. Putting down blocks to protect your friends, building villages, putting down merchants? It sounds like something from Club Penguin. In my opinion, it just seems like Carbine Studios is not being as serious as they should be. Now I have barely done any research, but from what I have seen so far it looks like a game that a 10 year old would play on the Wii U. Carbine also hasn't shown us much gameplay, so we can't really see if WildStar is kid-ish, or an "adult/mature" MMO like WoW or Rift.
Just my two cents
There is nothing wrong with an MMO being a little goofy or free-spirited as long as it's advertised that way.
Wild Star has been upfront with it's trailers; it isn't supposed to be serious. It's aimed at fun.
Originally posted by mmoguy43 Yep, just you any anyone else like you that sees any sign of more stylized art than realism and has a knee jerk response. Is it that hard to enjoy a good pixar or animated film?
Calling some stylized doesn't make it a more valuable gaming experience. Everything has a style. To me its just a defense mechanism for, yes, its cartoony, but I like it...and thats fine, but its more than the cartoony look. Its that it just looks goofy and no, goofy in an MMO is the same target audience as Sonic the Hedgehog and thats not what excites me. WOW looks more mature than this game does. I also think for explorers like me that 2D rip off platform jumping puzzles in an unrealistic cartoony world is nothing that makes me want to explore...so when I try this game, Ill have to try the solider path first I think. If I find the quests are fetch this, kill x, with quests that are non-immersive, than this game will be uninstalled the next day.
I think since its a Game you play for fun trying to be goofy and being funny is the right way .
Playing games should never be serious business for that i have a rl.
I hope that the way they present the game will attract the kind of players who still play for fun and not the usual crowd that is too busy rushing through content pretending gaming is some serious business and forgetting to have fun. ( I know they will still be there but maybe we can get enough of the real gamers)
does WildStar seem a little goofy/kid-ish? The graphics are fine, but it just seems like they have a non-serious approach on how an MMO should be. I just saw what the Settler class is like, and it sounds weird for an MMO. Putting down blocks to protect your friends, building villages, putting down merchants? It sounds like something from Club Penguin. In my opinion, it just seems like Carbine Studios is not being as serious as they should be. Now I have barely done any research, but from what I have seen so far it looks like a game that a 10 year old would play on the Wii U. Carbine also hasn't shown us much gameplay, so we can't really see if WildStar is kid-ish, or an "adult/mature" MMO like WoW or Rift.
Just my two cents
First of all you have to be the first person in the history of vidiot games to refer to WoW as an "adult/mature" game. Seriously, did you just escape from some compound in Utah?
Secondly it looks very similar to Don Bluth animated films, especially the trailers. I dunno about you but I still, at 42, find his movies to be extraordinarily entertaining. Far better than most of the trash that gets shoved down our throats.
I agree. From the videos and descriptions and choice of words the marketing team uses in announcement, news and newsletter.. is immature and non serious. It really stands out to me and I can't help but think... "this could have been so much more".
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Originally posted by Vannor I agree. From the videos and descriptions and choice of words the marketing team uses in announcement, news and newsletter.. is immature and non serious. It really stands out to me and I can't help but think... "this could have been so much more".
They are being funny and not taking themselves too seriously... which is a GOOD thing. But I guess it's not for everyone... What ''more'' do you think it could have been ? A really serious and dark themed MMO ? Wait for World of Darkness then.
Personally, I find it very refreshing and every time they post a new video, I can't help it, it just makes me laugh so much. To me, the game looks like it's trying to be like Shrek, made to attract a very wide audience by being funny to both young AND older people with different styles and a good amount of both what you would call ''childish'' jokes and more adult ones.
They are being funny and not taking themselves too seriously... which is a GOOD thing.
Looks more like being immature and acting childish to me. I know they are doing it on purpose, but their primary target audience is clearly in the teens. I put this game clearly in the same area as Clone Wars Adventures for maturity. It's like a kids/teen cartoon. It might be good none the less, I'm not trying to slam it.. just saying what I see.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
They are being funny and not taking themselves too seriously... which is a GOOD thing.
Looks more like being immature and acting childish to me. I know they are doing it on purpose, but their primary target audience is clearly in the teens. I put this game clearly in the same area as Clone Wars Adventures for maturity. It's like a kids/teen cartoon. It might be good none the less, I'm not trying to slam it.. just saying what I see.
The truth is just the opposite. While Wildsatr has content for all play styles its primary target audience is hardcore veteran gamers especially hardcore raiders. Players that have come from traditional MMOs like EQ1, AC, Daoc, EQ2, WoW, Vanguard and Rift. The target audience is mid 30's to 40's. Wildstar is being made to provide hard difficult and challenging content for old school veteran players. Lead dev Gaffney has said there are enough easy MMOS made for the masses. Rather he said the target audience for Wildstar is the 1%. Older gamers and old school gaming. Not players that need constant eye candy, attention, babysitting and handholding which is what we see from all the modern games being made for the ultra casual younger audiences that demand games dumbed down to their level.
They are being funny and not taking themselves too seriously... which is a GOOD thing.
Looks more like being immature and acting childish to me. I know they are doing it on purpose, but their primary target audience is clearly in the teens. I put this game clearly in the same area as Clone Wars Adventures for maturity. It's like a kids/teen cartoon. It might be good none the less, I'm not trying to slam it.. just saying what I see.
The truth is just the opposite. While Wildsatr has content for all play styles its primary target audience is hardcore veteran gamers especially hardcore raiders. Players that have come from traditional MMOs like EQ1, AC, Daoc, EQ2, WoW, Vanguard and Rift. The target audience is mid 30's to 40's. Wildstar is being made to provide hard difficult and challenging content for old school veteran players. Lead dev Gaffney has said there are enough easy MMOS made for the masses. Rather he said the target audience for Wildstar is the 1%. Older gamers and old school gaming. Not players that need constant eye candy, attention, babysitting and handholding which is what we see from all the modern games being made for the ultra casual younger audiences that demand games dumbed down to their level.
Adding a few hard raids doesn't change the theme, lore, style, characters, stories and appearance. Candy Crush Saga can be hard as hell.. so can some of the Mario games.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
They are being funny and not taking themselves too seriously... which is a GOOD thing.
Looks more like being immature and acting childish to me. I know they are doing it on purpose, but their primary target audience is clearly in the teens. I put this game clearly in the same area as Clone Wars Adventures for maturity. It's like a kids/teen cartoon. It might be good none the less, I'm not trying to slam it.. just saying what I see.
The truth is just the opposite. While Wildsatr has content for all play styles its primary target audience is hardcore veteran gamers especially hardcore raiders. Players that have come from traditional MMOs like EQ1, AC, Daoc, EQ2, WoW, Vanguard and Rift. The target audience is mid 30's to 40's. Wildstar is being made to provide hard difficult and challenging content for old school veteran players. Lead dev Gaffney has said there are enough easy MMOS made for the masses. Rather he said the target audience for Wildstar is the 1%. Older gamers and old school gaming. Not players that need constant eye candy, attention, babysitting and handholding which is what we see from all the modern games being made for the ultra casual younger audiences that demand games dumbed down to their level.
Adding a few hard raids doesn't change the theme, lore, style, characters, stories and appearance. Candy Crush Saga can be hard as hell.. so can some of the Mario games.
The difference here is Wildstar is being made and targeted for veteran players and raiders. People who have played and love EQ1, EQ2. WoW, Vanguard and so on. This player demographic is much older, more mature, experienced and knowledgeable than what one would see from the easy mode, high eye candy, and substance less modern MMOs we see made for the ultra casuals that do not play endgame. The target audience for Wildstar should be mid 30's to 40's.
Lot of games have some form of raiding but only the EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vanguard, and Rift have had actual progression raiding and challenging raiding. Other games who claim to have raiding really do not have raiding at least not in the class or difficulty of the above games. Not raiding that attracts competitive guilds and players. This is the line of players they are targeting and attracting. Old school veteran players who want something lacking in modern MMOs and that is challenge, risk/reward and difficulty. Will it work out and be successful or will it end up morphing into easy mode where everyone wins like WoW and the direction Rift is heading? I would agree the later is a likely eventuality. But for at least now and release veteran, old school and older gamers is their target audience. They desperately want a game with actual challenge, thought and difficulty. Wildstar promises to scratch that itch and old school players are paying attention and excited.
i like cartoony graphics but i dont like the style of them in wildstar. i dont like too funny mood they have too. cartoon yes, but a bit more evil, not childish.
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It allows them to sell comic books about wildstar , big teddy bears using wildstar characters .
Maybe we can buy wildstar t-shirts and even a wildstar animated movie will appear at the box office .
Actually there is a good amount of game play available on their website and on youtube. As for the child theme, I'll agree the graphics are childish but the theme is more grown up if you've seen any of the official videos. As for Carbine Studios they are taking a humorous approach at their game and have been ever since the initial CGI trailer.
Idk, waiting to see first hand through beta personally anyway.
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It's just you.
To me it seems no more or less childish than WoW.
Yes, it is not serious all the time, but it can be epic when needed, at least so it seems from what I have seen when fighting giant mecha-like robots or things like that.
At the end a game must be fun and the best games are the ones that pick a theme and realize it.
For example Firefly has plenty of humor in it, would you say it is a childish tv series?
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
i think they are advertising 'light', but when it comes down to the nitty gritty they can switch their 'Darkside' on like a switch. The advantage of the 'cartoonistic' medium they have chosen is that someone could get cut in half and it would still be regarded as being slightly naughty rather than gratuitous......I would love a 'Dawn of the Dead MMO' full bore .... but realistically...no chance. #
I like the direction of Wildstar ... I see more South Park about it than Disney..... potentially
its not just him.
look dont get me wrong i love a game with humor, and WoW has had plenty of funny moments.
but the deeper I dig into Wildstar i think they have slightly overdone the goofy aspects..
Does every game have to be serious?
No they don't be, lighten up and have a bit of fun, I don't want a super serious game, the happy and silly tone of the game is something that's rare to see these days.
There isn't anything wrong with the game being too positive and happy, or too dark, the game is just what it is, and not every game is going to appeal to everyone.
For example, I like path of exile and how the game works, but the game is far too dark and depressing for me to enjoy, the game literally screams death and it's too hardcore for a wimp like me. It's not a bad game at all, it's just a game that isn't for me.
Carbine takes a forwardly humorous approach to making the game, as in they incorporate comedy into all levels. As for the actual game mechanics not fitting a "serious" MMO, I don't know what's childish about player involvement in world design... It's not a traditional kind of feature for a large game like Wildstar, but most people would say that's a good thing.
Whatever. I don't even know why I reply to threads like this.
Silly to say its kiddish, if so just more humorous. To me, a game doesn't need to be dead serious, it often just makes it far less enjoyable in many cases. Maturity can be the most immature... I know, sounds weird but its true. When we think mature we might think dark, sex, and violence. Often, the sex and violence itself tends to be played in a way that is just not mature, just being there for the sake of being there. It doesn't really contribute to the world much at all, just meant to be there for the purpose of 'ooo people like that'. In that regard, it can be just as 'kiddie' having that stuff pushed into a game.
That being said, naturally some people aren't into a game that doesn't take itself that seriously, going for that humor edge. If your discrediting a game because "it looks to kiddie" since it doesn't have certain elements emphasized or they use a certain graphic style, then in reality, that is a rather 'kiddie' way to judge things.
OP I completely agree with you even though I will still try this game like I do every new release so I can form an accurate opinion. Just be advised that when I created a thread and said 15 year old target audience, the mods renamed the thread, so they may be even more ridiculously sensitive to you using a reference that is 5 years younger than my reference, though mine was in the title lol.
Of course there will be always be adults who still like Saturday morning cartoons, or prefer the goofiness (I mean, I still watch animated movies where I know that the target audience is younger than me), etc, but anyone that denies that the 'target audience' wouldn't be a much 'younger' generation is smoking something.
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Nothing against Borderlands, but the humor is seriously cliche cheese and corn fed straight to you! I find WildStar's humor, the little that has been shown, to be of a higher quality
There is nothing wrong with an MMO being a little goofy or free-spirited as long as it's advertised that way.
Wild Star has been upfront with it's trailers; it isn't supposed to be serious. It's aimed at fun.
Calling some stylized doesn't make it a more valuable gaming experience. Everything has a style. To me its just a defense mechanism for, yes, its cartoony, but I like it...and thats fine, but its more than the cartoony look. Its that it just looks goofy and no, goofy in an MMO is the same target audience as Sonic the Hedgehog and thats not what excites me. WOW looks more mature than this game does. I also think for explorers like me that 2D rip off platform jumping puzzles in an unrealistic cartoony world is nothing that makes me want to explore...so when I try this game, Ill have to try the solider path first I think. If I find the quests are fetch this, kill x, with quests that are non-immersive, than this game will be uninstalled the next day.
There Is Always Hope!
I think since its a Game you play for fun trying to be goofy and being funny is the right way .
Playing games should never be serious business for that i have a rl.
I hope that the way they present the game will attract the kind of players who still play for fun and not the usual crowd that is too busy rushing through content pretending gaming is some serious business and forgetting to have fun. ( I know they will still be there but maybe we can get enough of the real gamers)
First of all you have to be the first person in the history of vidiot games to refer to WoW as an "adult/mature" game. Seriously, did you just escape from some compound in Utah?
Secondly it looks very similar to Don Bluth animated films, especially the trailers. I dunno about you but I still, at 42, find his movies to be extraordinarily entertaining. Far better than most of the trash that gets shoved down our throats.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7300033012
They are being funny and not taking themselves too seriously... which is a GOOD thing. But I guess it's not for everyone... What ''more'' do you think it could have been ? A really serious and dark themed MMO ? Wait for World of Darkness then.
Personally, I find it very refreshing and every time they post a new video, I can't help it, it just makes me laugh so much. To me, the game looks like it's trying to be like Shrek, made to attract a very wide audience by being funny to both young AND older people with different styles and a good amount of both what you would call ''childish'' jokes and more adult ones.
Looks more like being immature and acting childish to me. I know they are doing it on purpose, but their primary target audience is clearly in the teens. I put this game clearly in the same area as Clone Wars Adventures for maturity. It's like a kids/teen cartoon. It might be good none the less, I'm not trying to slam it.. just saying what I see.
The truth is just the opposite. While Wildsatr has content for all play styles its primary target audience is hardcore veteran gamers especially hardcore raiders. Players that have come from traditional MMOs like EQ1, AC, Daoc, EQ2, WoW, Vanguard and Rift. The target audience is mid 30's to 40's. Wildstar is being made to provide hard difficult and challenging content for old school veteran players. Lead dev Gaffney has said there are enough easy MMOS made for the masses. Rather he said the target audience for Wildstar is the 1%. Older gamers and old school gaming. Not players that need constant eye candy, attention, babysitting and handholding which is what we see from all the modern games being made for the ultra casual younger audiences that demand games dumbed down to their level.
Adding a few hard raids doesn't change the theme, lore, style, characters, stories and appearance. Candy Crush Saga can be hard as hell.. so can some of the Mario games.
The difference here is Wildstar is being made and targeted for veteran players and raiders. People who have played and love EQ1, EQ2. WoW, Vanguard and so on. This player demographic is much older, more mature, experienced and knowledgeable than what one would see from the easy mode, high eye candy, and substance less modern MMOs we see made for the ultra casuals that do not play endgame. The target audience for Wildstar should be mid 30's to 40's.
Lot of games have some form of raiding but only the EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vanguard, and Rift have had actual progression raiding and challenging raiding. Other games who claim to have raiding really do not have raiding at least not in the class or difficulty of the above games. Not raiding that attracts competitive guilds and players. This is the line of players they are targeting and attracting. Old school veteran players who want something lacking in modern MMOs and that is challenge, risk/reward and difficulty. Will it work out and be successful or will it end up morphing into easy mode where everyone wins like WoW and the direction Rift is heading? I would agree the later is a likely eventuality. But for at least now and release veteran, old school and older gamers is their target audience. They desperately want a game with actual challenge, thought and difficulty. Wildstar promises to scratch that itch and old school players are paying attention and excited.