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I started out several years ago playing mmo's because they were more than a video game, but more a way of life.....This is the ONLY reason I enjoyed mmo's. Don't get me wrong I tried to balance real life too. For the past two years I've been searching for that feeling. I just can't scratch that itch I have.
I CAN'T USE THE WORDS, OLD SCHOOL. The words "old school" should not even be used.
I CAN USE THE WORDS, A WAY OF LIFE. This is what should have evolved. Better graphics, game play, coding of the way of life.
The full list of mmo's that were a way-of-life ( nothing to do with old school ).
- Everquest 1
- Everquest 2
- Ultima Online
- Vanilla WoW
- Eve
- Vanguard
- DAOC
- Final Fantasy 11
- SWG
- LOTRO
- Guild Wars 1
This is it. I may have missed one or two but for the most part this is it. Some were not my style but that's not what the list is about. I wish mmos should have evolved using a way of life instead of fun to play cash grabs with others around you on a screen.
Please add if I missed one.
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Pulling a lot of people into a nice mmo to "live" there for a while was great. It was new to everyone so we noticed all that was good at first. But the people playing the games saw where the games could use some improvement. There was no way to communicate this to the game owners. We are separated from them. Plus, we don't all agree on what needs improved. There will always be a gigantic divide between PvP adn PvE. When the owners did take time to listen it was always to the loudest chick in the nest - PvP'ers. So even if they listened at all the majority of us got ignored, got mad, and stomped off. Games that survived were World of Warcraft because they allowed modders/hackers in to keep a feeling like the people had at least some control of the game. But it still wasn't enough control.
That sense that you're all living together in a world is usually coined phrased, "part of the community." There was always this feeling like today I might make a new friend. Or enemy, lol. I had some people really treat me like crap in games when I was just looking for a few buddies. I used to be a part of a guild that laughed, joked, and cried tears of joy together. Till one of them found out I was gay and started harassing me behind the other's backs. No problem I left and moved on but I'm not the only one who lost a good guild or two do to trolling. Game makers cannot do anything about making players nicer to each other and kindness perpetuates a game's sense of livability. Or can they?
FFXI sure was a Way of life for me. I used to get home and log in to that game after work for like 5 hours everyday. I work 3rd shift and i would log on at like 7 am and be on there till like 10 pm next night, if it was my night off. I was that dedicated to that game. I really enjoyed the community of it, never had to blacklist anyone.
I played it for several years and still remember some of the peaple i played along side, and still have fond memories of that, even after like 6 years since i played it. That game was very special for me and was truly my 2nd Way of Life.
Ironically i was kinda shy in RL, and still am, but in FFxi i had no trouble socilizing and making friends, i really miss those days.
I really hope that ffxiv ARR brings back the magic that ffxi used to have.
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I don't live in games. I play them for entertainment. So i would count that as a positive. Living = doing many mundane stuff. I would rather not do that in a game.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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This.
I came into the thread to be either references or entirely about this gem, but it's not even listed...
I still have way of life at runescape, as I can log there for free and chat with good old friends.
Funny to notice, but many of them got married because of this game.
I would not tell I still like RS, it too outdated for my taste and way too "old school" grind, but it cool to chat with friends from whole globe.
Strange, but I found great community at Forsaken World. May be because of not very high population, people know each other, have chat and other non-game fun together, so it looks like social tool more than simple MMO.
may be I play MMO not for gaming but most for having large social life impossible in real world as I can't bring together like 30-40 person daily and chat with them.
also in real life we try more to hide our problems while in virtual space we seems to be more relax and deep.
try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises.
Worst surprises for me: Aion, GW2
People creating their own terms to own them is funny. Kids these days.
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Came in to say this. And Final Fantasy XI.
this has been said before in other threads, but i think what we all miss so much is virtual worlds with living breathing virtual communities that we could feel part of while we played.
they dont make those anymore, at least not in my experience so far. SWG was great for me as my first 3D mmorpg b/c it was a world and it had people living how they chose (obviously within certain constraints). and all these people interacted in all of the wonderful, glorious, dysfunctional ways that humans do when we get together.
you miss a 'real' world is what you miss.
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A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
This is the truth. They also hate anything that requires a "group". I always want to tell those people to go play a Co-op RPG or a single player game. I hate this whole no competition, everything is solo-able age. I miss having real communities in a game.
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Wherever I lay my hat, that’s my home. Spread your wings a bit, a MMO or anything else for that matter does not have to be just entertainment, or indeed just any one thing. MMOs and anything in life are what you make of them, the community is there, why not use it?
I think that there are still quite a few "way of life" games out there, there just aren't a lot of "way of life" people anymore. Priorities have changed, the people who play these games have changed, and so of course the feeling you get when you play them has changed.
Make no mistake, every little kid out there who grew up with teamspeak, ventrillo, or whatever other voice program literally destroying any of the anonymity needed in order to roleplay (because roleplaying is in fact a goofy thing for most humans to do in front of, or even in earshot of another human) still feels that they were in a "way of life" game, just not the "way of life" game that you were in.
As for the games themselves, well, cash shops can enhance a game greatly. I, for one, enjoyed all of the outfits, mounts, and different things that EQ2 put into it's cash shop. I did not enjoy the concept that if you paid for APB you became the Saint of Killers in a world full of Barney Fife's, and it was that exact imbalance, making it impossible for me to take real credit for my wins if I paid, and impossible to win if I did not pay, that caused me to stop playing that game.
Some ideas are just bad ideas. But not all of them, you just have to really look deeply into what the developers of said game are trying to accomplish, and most importantly these days, which I believe is the real bane of the entire industry......
PLAY BY THE RULES!
If a LOT more of us did that then we would be having a lot more fun in just about any of these games we played. But since it became a standard to cheat, side-step, and circumvent things in these games as a way of showing your intellectual superiority, it's no wonder why a lot of us never enjoy ourselves anymore.
As for my "way of life" MMO, I am finding Age of Wushu to be quite the time stealer for me right now.
If only they would fix the lag.
Moving to new servers soon - they've held two stress tests the past few weeks for them.
Because i chose not to? MMO does not have to be just entertainment. And MMO can be just entertainment. That is how i chose to see it. Just entertainment.
Why? Because i like it that way. It is my entertainment, i can do whatever i like.
I already have a life. I don't need a second one. I already have a community .. game community is just some friendly people i can play with. There is no mystery to it.
I am entertained when the mmo makes me feel like im living in it as the classic mmos did.
And i feel classic MMOs are too boring, and too much work, and not entertaining enough.
I am entertained when MMO makes me feel like i am playing a real fun game as the modern MMOs did.