Which is extremely Dangerous in today´s MMO climate.
They are bound to create unreleastic expectations, which is already happening. Only to dissapoint.
It´s basically exactly what happened to SW:TOR really. It wasn´t really until a year or so before launch before we really started to see actual footage, but the game had been hyped through the roof. Especially With the Budget that was thrown against the game. There was just no way this game could live up to people´s expectations. And that´s exactly what happened. Crash and Burn shortly after release and F2P 9 months later.
SOE really need to be careful With this or EQNext will suffer the same faith.
unrealistic expectations happens whether the consumer base has information or not..
Examples : well, most of todays MMOs,but especially GW2 and SWTOR.
Seriously, I am astonished by just how little information is leaking onto the web about this game. Apart from some extremely tantalizing hints in a few well known interviews there is essentially nothing substantive to be found anywhere. No juicy leaked screenshots, no hints about what the UI might be like, nothing about the basic architecture (single shard like Eve or something more familiar?). Has any other game kept its secrets this well over such a long period? Doing wonders for the hype meter obviously.
Originally posted by DamonVile
Hitchcock learned that nothing is ever as frighting as what people create in their own mind. In his horror movies he'd always hint at what was there but never really show you. He let your mind create what was standing in the dark...and it worked.
This is what SoE has been doing. Giving you just enough of a hint to have an idea of what the game is about but not enough to complain about. Then people are left up to create the perfect mmo in their minds and use the "leaks" to make it seem like it's actually going to play that way.
Originally posted by JeroKane
Which is extremely Dangerous in today´s MMO climate.
They are bound to create unreleastic expectations, which is already happening. Only to dissapoint.
It´s basically exactly what happened to SW:TOR really. It wasn´t really until a year or so before launch before we really started to see actual footage, but the game had been hyped through the roof. Especially With the Budget that was thrown against the game. There was just no way this game could live up to people´s expectations. And that´s exactly what happened. Crash and Burn shortly after release and F2P 9 months later.
SOE really need to be careful With this or EQNext will suffer the same faith.
It's for all of these reasons that I'm holding off on getting excited about the game. Everything we've "heard" is little more then hearsay in my opinion. All I realy want to know is will I be able to play it on my PS4 like Planetside2?
Which is extremely Dangerous in today´s MMO climate.
I agree; there's at least a dozen little sub-factions hoping the game turns out to their ideal.
Question is; can any of them accept a compromise? We're not big on those 'round here.
The biggest compromise that can be made is if the linear storyline MMO crowd (who has 100 games to choose from) allows the free range sandbox crowd just this one game. Let us have it. You don't want it? Fine. Go be the "Chosen One" in Rift or something. You have dozens of game choices.
See? We're already working on exclusion, with an audience that doesn't even exist yet.
This cannot be a happy outcome.
No, it cannot be a happy outcome. I see a lot of posts like the one previous to yours where the players think they get to choose the game they want.
ReallyNow10, it isn't the players' decision how the game turns out. You want what you envision. You get whatever they're making. If it were to end up a linear guided mmo, it's not because some group asked for that and got their way, it's because that is how SoE made the game.
If they are making a linear guided MMO disappointment will be the hallmark of this title. The positive feelings building now will invert into hatred.
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I am sure when aug 2nd hits MMORPG and Tentonhammer will have alot to say about EQN as they both gave it best in show at E3. Hopefully BIll was right when he said, "we will poop ourselves".
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All games are a secret until the cat is let out of the bag.
I think SOE is being smart about what they are doing. It takes ~5 years to develop a MMO. To be competitive in a very vast field you needs to hold your cards until you need to play them.
I personally have very high hopes that SOE has learned from its mistakes and wins with EQ and EQ2. They have been an driving force in the MMO arena since day one. I hope they finally fixed the issue of nothing for hardcore players to do at end game. The issue of lack of PvP content. The issue of making dynamic content actually dynamic. Way to many games these days use dynamically as a marking buz word. Yet nearly non of them actually pull it off...
I look forward to seeing some Aces in Aug. because from were I am standing Elder Scroll is holding Kings ATM. Who is going to win my $$$.
I am hoping Bill is right, and it will rekindle my faith in MMOs again. He is kinda throwing his reputation in the hat with EQ Next, so I'm willing to get my hopes up.
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Unrealistic expectations dont matter. What's the worst that can happen? You don't like a free to play game?
Its much different than SWTOR, and I hate the comparisons. If you bought into the hype, you spent $60 and subscribed to the game. The worst case scenario is you download EQN, play it for 5 hours, dont like it, and never play again. All you lost was time, not money, compared to sub to play games.
Seriously, I am astonished by just how little information is leaking onto the web about this game. Apart from some extremely tantalizing hints in a few well known interviews there is essentially nothing substantive to be found anywhere. No juicy leaked screenshots, no hints about what the UI might be like, nothing about the basic architecture (single shard like Eve or something more familiar?). Has any other game kept its secrets this well over such a long period? Doing wonders for the hype meter obviously.
All games are a secret until the cat is let out of the bag.
I think SOE is being smart about what they are doing. It takes ~5 years to develop a MMO. To be competitive in a very vast field you needs to hold your cards until you need to play them.
I personally have very high hopes that SOE has learned from its mistakes and wins with EQ and EQ2. They have been an driving force in the MMO arena since day one. I hope they finally fixed the issue of nothing for hardcore players to do at end game. The issue of lack of PvP content. The issue of making dynamic content actually dynamic. Way to many games these days use dynamically as a marking buz word. Yet nearly non of them actually pull it off...
I look forward to seeing some Aces in Aug. because from were I am standing Elder Scroll is holding Kings ATM. Who is going to win my $$$.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but ESO and EQN arent catering to end-game raiders. Unless you're open to your "end-game" being something different than loot pinatas every tuesday.
If you're looking for an MMORPG that is all about the end-game raiders, WildStar is your game of choice as they are (bravely) bringing back 40 man raids.
Unrealistic expectations dont matter. What's the worst that can happen? You don't like a free to play game?
Its much different than SWTOR, and I hate the comparisons. If you bought into the hype, you spent $60 and subscribed to the game. The worst case scenario is you download EQN, play it for 5 hours, dont like it, and never play again. All you lost was time, not money, compared to sub to play games.
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unrealistic expectations happens whether the consumer base has information or not..
Examples : well, most of todays MMOs,but especially GW2 and SWTOR.
sheeshe, xthos has it right, your all a bunch a old ladies , bored and gossipy
over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting...
It's for all of these reasons that I'm holding off on getting excited about the game. Everything we've "heard" is little more then hearsay in my opinion. All I realy want to know is will I be able to play it on my PS4 like Planetside2?
If they are making a linear guided MMO disappointment will be the hallmark of this title. The positive feelings building now will invert into hatred.
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Nah, I think WOD is a much better kept secret, so much so that people are starting to doubt its actual existence.
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"Its better to look ugly and win than pretty and lose"
All games are a secret until the cat is let out of the bag.
I think SOE is being smart about what they are doing. It takes ~5 years to develop a MMO. To be competitive in a very vast field you needs to hold your cards until you need to play them.
I personally have very high hopes that SOE has learned from its mistakes and wins with EQ and EQ2. They have been an driving force in the MMO arena since day one. I hope they finally fixed the issue of nothing for hardcore players to do at end game. The issue of lack of PvP content. The issue of making dynamic content actually dynamic. Way to many games these days use dynamically as a marking buz word. Yet nearly non of them actually pull it off...
I look forward to seeing some Aces in Aug. because from were I am standing Elder Scroll is holding Kings ATM. Who is going to win my $$$.
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Unrealistic expectations dont matter. What's the worst that can happen? You don't like a free to play game?
Its much different than SWTOR, and I hate the comparisons. If you bought into the hype, you spent $60 and subscribed to the game. The worst case scenario is you download EQN, play it for 5 hours, dont like it, and never play again. All you lost was time, not money, compared to sub to play games.
It's up there, for sure. Top 5 at least.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but ESO and EQN arent catering to end-game raiders. Unless you're open to your "end-game" being something different than loot pinatas every tuesday.
If you're looking for an MMORPG that is all about the end-game raiders, WildStar is your game of choice as they are (bravely) bringing back 40 man raids.
It will not have sub?
It will be buy to play for sure though.