Ever wonder what happened to Ms. Cleo? OP put her out of business!
As for SoE track record, they have been involved in 3 of my top 5 mmos of all time, so I don't see that negative.
I would say that they started something great with SWG...but instead of letting age and ripen and grow a subscriber base....they NGE'd it!! They had an awesome sandbox but completely borked it up and now its dead and gone forever.
I thought eq2 was a tragic departure from eq1.
Waiting sooooooooo long before putting Vanguard ftp.
Not really a fan of PS1 or 2.
SWG - You blame SoE, I put more blame on LA, they had creative final say, to make it short, LA says jump, SoE had to say how high imo. Game needed worked on, but it needed balancing/content. Comes in at #5
EQ2 - Didn't really play.
EQ - top 2 for me, disliked the instanced direction, but still had 6-8 years total of play time for me.
VG - Top 5 for me, they kind of ignored it, but it was also a jumbled mess of programming code supposedly that didn't lend itself to being fixed...Yeah they promised a relaunch long ago, but still a top 5 for me.
I have no PS1, have a PS2, it is 99% of the time a Blu-ray/Netflix player, not a big console player, I have stuff, but it is no where near the useage of my PC.
So yeah, I do not agree with everything SoE has done, but they are no worse than anyone else, couple that with people being involved in EQN that have been a part of 3 of my top 5 mmos, I do not feel the need to doom and gloom anything before I see it. I may dislike/hate what they do, I do not pretend to know otherwise, but I am going to stay positive, until I have reason not to be. I don't try to squeeze out meaning for the most part from cryptic tweets.
Cartoony wow like graphics? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
Rigid class design? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
PvP so classes are forced to be nerfed and balanced? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
SOE's track record? check. Last I've checked SoE just buys bad titles and has their names on it. Everquest is still going strong I think is what you were trying to say. Check.
Just too many doubt's this early on. With so much hype it can only end badly. I kinda hope it does fail because if it is really good then I'll have to fork out for a new rig just to play it.
Well according to you it will have crappy graphics and therefore you wont have to fork over anything. So try again troll.
The game must suck because they cant even release any info about it . We have to wait till Aug 2 where we will probably get tidbits of information and I doubt there is even a playable game yet .
I think they are frantically working since E3 on something to show us . Its going to be like one of those stage sets where you see a building but its really made of cardboard . IMO
The game was re-done from scratch. They released that info. Didn't know they needed to meet your quota on information before a title is shown. They haven't released any information because they want to sell tickets to SoE live. And so what if it's not playable. Didn't know they needed to meet your quota on that too. How about you let them release a finished game instead of SoE releasing a Hot Mess like they did with Vanguard. Patience youngling.
EQN smells like nothing cause we know nothing, all we have is PR bullshit. So in a way it smells a bit of ambition, but ambition can easily turn to shit.
PvP so classes are forced to be nerfed and balanced? check.
SOE's track record? check.
Just too many doubt's this early on. With so much hype it can only end badly. I kinda hope it does fail because if it is really good then I'll have to fork out for a new rig just to play it.
Stylized is not the same as Cartoony. If you want cartoony check out Wildstar. Classes are most likely in but based on Dave Georgeson's remarks at Pax East there will be an ability for any class to do any role so lets wait and see how this plays out. Not as good as an open ended skill system I'll agree but I will put faith it works out based on those remarks at Pax. There will always be buffs and nerfs so lets just hope that the Beta Test goes smooth so we can get the majority of the balance done when it needs to be...in a beta.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
The world will end in a cataclysmic explosion in 4.5 billion years. I have seen it to be true.
More like ~5.5 Billion years but who is counting?
Edit: Sorry, hit wrong button and posted nothing. Which kind of fits the whole thread as we are again debating EQN's design when we don't have any idea what it will be.
Cartoony wow like graphics? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
Rigid class design? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
PvP so classes are forced to be nerfed and balanced? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
SOE's track record? check. Last I've checked SoE just buys bad titles and has their names on it. Everquest is still going strong I think is what you were trying to say. Check.
Just too many doubt's this early on. With so much hype it can only end badly. I kinda hope it does fail because if it is really good then I'll have to fork out for a new rig just to play it.
Well according to you it will have crappy graphics and therefore you wont have to fork over anything. So try again troll.
The game must suck because they cant even release any info about it . We have to wait till Aug 2 where we will probably get tidbits of information and I doubt there is even a playable game yet .
I think they are frantically working since E3 on something to show us . Its going to be like one of those stage sets where you see a building but its really made of cardboard . IMO
SOE stated they could have shown the game at E3, but wanted to wait until their own event to show their fans the game first.
Also, you may want to check out SOE Live's EQN panel lineup...
Cartoony wow like graphics? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
Rigid class design? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
PvP so classes are forced to be nerfed and balanced? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
SOE's track record? check. Last I've checked SoE just buys bad titles and has their names on it. Everquest is still going strong I think is what you were trying to say. Check.
Just too many doubt's this early on. With so much hype it can only end badly. I kinda hope it does fail because if it is really good then I'll have to fork out for a new rig just to play it.
Well according to you it will have crappy graphics and therefore you wont have to fork over anything. So try again troll.
The game must suck because they cant even release any info about it . We have to wait till Aug 2 where we will probably get tidbits of information and I doubt there is even a playable game yet .
I think they are frantically working since E3 on something to show us . Its going to be like one of those stage sets where you see a building but its really made of cardboard . IMO
The game was re-done from scratch. They released that info. Didn't know they needed to meet your quota on information before a title is shown. They haven't released any information because they want to sell tickets to SoE live. And so what if it's not playable. Didn't know they needed to meet your quota on that too. How about you let them release a finished game instead of SoE releasing a Hot Mess like they did with Vanguard. Patience youngling.
Dude this is SOE !!! They ruined EQ1 , they ruined SWG , they ruined EQ2 , they ruined SWTOR .
There track record is not good man , I expect EQN to be the biggest failure in MMO history due to the hype this game has receive people are going to be crying so much its going to make history.
Cartoony wow like graphics? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
Rigid class design? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
PvP so classes are forced to be nerfed and balanced? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
SOE's track record? check. Last I've checked SoE just buys bad titles and has their names on it. Everquest is still going strong I think is what you were trying to say. Check.
Just too many doubt's this early on. With so much hype it can only end badly. I kinda hope it does fail because if it is really good then I'll have to fork out for a new rig just to play it.
Well according to you it will have crappy graphics and therefore you wont have to fork over anything. So try again troll.
The game must suck because they cant even release any info about it . We have to wait till Aug 2 where we will probably get tidbits of information and I doubt there is even a playable game yet .
I think they are frantically working since E3 on something to show us . Its going to be like one of those stage sets where you see a building but its really made of cardboard . IMO
Yeah, can't be that they promised people that they would reveal it at their fan faire, that is expensive for most people to go to....Yeah couldn't be that they wanted to piss a lot of people off.
They have already said that information would come out fast once the reveal hit.
Smedley was giving out sexual favors at E3 to get best in show from 2-3 publications that were shown non-existant stuff?
Best in show doesn't mean much to me, as I do not like most mmo stuff coming out now, so it could be a bad thing for me, but I will have to wait and see.
Also, bringing something that they supposedly do not want people to see/copy out of the black box in a not even near alpha state makes zero sense.
Just say I wish SoE was swallowed into a black hole, Smedley first, hate is ok, just get it out there, don't hide it, don't be passive aggressive....Just proclaim it and own it.
Originally posted by Rzep EQN smells like nothing cause we know nothing, all we have is PR bullshit. So in a way it smells a bit of ambition, but ambition can easily turn to shit.
Or greatness. EQ1 was ambitious and it was the gateway drug to MMO's. Before there was addictions in WoW. There was EverCrack!
Cartoony wow like graphics? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
Rigid class design? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
PvP so classes are forced to be nerfed and balanced? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
SOE's track record? check. Last I've checked SoE just buys bad titles and has their names on it. Everquest is still going strong I think is what you were trying to say. Check.
Just too many doubt's this early on. With so much hype it can only end badly. I kinda hope it does fail because if it is really good then I'll have to fork out for a new rig just to play it.
Well according to you it will have crappy graphics and therefore you wont have to fork over anything. So try again troll.
The game must suck because they cant even release any info about it . We have to wait till Aug 2 where we will probably get tidbits of information and I doubt there is even a playable game yet .
I think they are frantically working since E3 on something to show us . Its going to be like one of those stage sets where you see a building but its really made of cardboard . IMO
The game was re-done from scratch. They released that info. Didn't know they needed to meet your quota on information before a title is shown. They haven't released any information because they want to sell tickets to SoE live. And so what if it's not playable. Didn't know they needed to meet your quota on that too. How about you let them release a finished game instead of SoE releasing a Hot Mess like they did with Vanguard. Patience youngling.
Dude this is SOE !!! They ruined EQ1 , they ruined SWG , they ruined EQ2 , they ruined SWTOR .
There track record is not good man , I expect EQN to be the biggest failure in MMO history due to the hype this game has receive people are going to be crying so much its going to make history.
There you go, that's better.
SoE ruined EQ, like Blizzard ruined WoW, and EA ruined UO.... Companies make decisions to chase the customer/money, and many people end up not liking it, but it isn't a SoE thing.
Cartoony wow like graphics? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
Rigid class design? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
PvP so classes are forced to be nerfed and balanced? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
SOE's track record? check. Last I've checked SoE just buys bad titles and has their names on it. Everquest is still going strong I think is what you were trying to say. Check.
Just too many doubt's this early on. With so much hype it can only end badly. I kinda hope it does fail because if it is really good then I'll have to fork out for a new rig just to play it.
Well according to you it will have crappy graphics and therefore you wont have to fork over anything. So try again troll.
The game must suck because they cant even release any info about it . We have to wait till Aug 2 where we will probably get tidbits of information and I doubt there is even a playable game yet .
I think they are frantically working since E3 on something to show us . Its going to be like one of those stage sets where you see a building but its really made of cardboard . IMO
Just to be fair, Blizzard was sitting on "Titan" for a long time, without releasing anything other than "yea, we're working on it". They were planning on announcing at Blizcon, but quickly backtracked and reset the project (much like how SOE did with EQN)
Raquelis in various games Played: Everything Playing: Nioh 2, Civ6 Wants: The World Anticipating:Everquest NextCrowfall, Pantheon, Elden Ring
Cartoony wow like graphics? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
Rigid class design? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
PvP so classes are forced to be nerfed and balanced? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
SOE's track record? check. Last I've checked SoE just buys bad titles and has their names on it. Everquest is still going strong I think is what you were trying to say. Check.
Just too many doubt's this early on. With so much hype it can only end badly. I kinda hope it does fail because if it is really good then I'll have to fork out for a new rig just to play it.
Well according to you it will have crappy graphics and therefore you wont have to fork over anything. So try again troll.
The game must suck because they cant even release any info about it . We have to wait till Aug 2 where we will probably get tidbits of information and I doubt there is even a playable game yet .
I think they are frantically working since E3 on something to show us . Its going to be like one of those stage sets where you see a building but its really made of cardboard . IMO
Yeah, can't be that they promised people that they would reveal it at their fan faire, that is expensive for most people to go to....Yeah couldn't be that they wanted to piss a lot of people off.
They have already said that information would come out fast once the reveal hit.
Smedley was giving out sexual favors at E3 to get best in show from 2-3 publications that were shown non-existant stuff?
Best in show doesn't mean much to me, as I do not like most mmo stuff coming out now, so it could be a bad thing for me, but I will have to wait and see.
Also, bringing something that they supposedly do not want people to see/copy out of the black box in a not even near alpha state makes zero sense.
Just say I wish SoE was swallowed into a black hole, Smedley first, hate is ok, just get it out there, don't hide it, don't be passive aggressive....Just proclaim it and own it.
They said they would release info on EQN the next fan faire. Check.
There is a Live Stream of the Event free of charge. Check.
Cartoony wow like graphics? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
Rigid class design? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
PvP so classes are forced to be nerfed and balanced? check. You mean I have no idea. Check.
SOE's track record? check. Last I've checked SoE just buys bad titles and has their names on it. Everquest is still going strong I think is what you were trying to say. Check.
Just too many doubt's this early on. With so much hype it can only end badly. I kinda hope it does fail because if it is really good then I'll have to fork out for a new rig just to play it.
Well according to you it will have crappy graphics and therefore you wont have to fork over anything. So try again troll.
The game must suck because they cant even release any info about it . We have to wait till Aug 2 where we will probably get tidbits of information and I doubt there is even a playable game yet .
I think they are frantically working since E3 on something to show us . Its going to be like one of those stage sets where you see a building but its really made of cardboard . IMO
Yeah, can't be that they promised people that they would reveal it at their fan faire, that is expensive for most people to go to....Yeah couldn't be that they wanted to piss a lot of people off.
They have already said that information would come out fast once the reveal hit.
Smedley was giving out sexual favors at E3 to get best in show from 2-3 publications that were shown non-existant stuff?
Best in show doesn't mean much to me, as I do not like most mmo stuff coming out now, so it could be a bad thing for me, but I will have to wait and see.
Also, bringing something that they supposedly do not want people to see/copy out of the black box in a not even near alpha state makes zero sense.
Just say I wish SoE was swallowed into a black hole, Smedley first, hate is ok, just get it out there, don't hide it, don't be passive aggressive....Just proclaim it and own it.
They said they would release info on EQN the next fan faire. Check.
There is a Live Stream of the Event free of charge. Check.
Why you bitching? Unknown!
I wasn't bitching about SoE....People going to the event are paying good money, was saying if they released everything ahead of time, after people paid this money to be there for the reveal, they probably would not be happy.
Did you mean to reply to me, or really read my post?
Originally posted by Shadowguy64 Are you from the future? Aug 2?
I know eh? I told you it was coming, but the dude's 2 weeks early.
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Dude this is SOE !!! They ruined EQ1 , they ruined SWG , they ruined EQ2 , they ruined SWTOR .
There track record is not good man , I expect EQN to be the biggest failure in MMO history due to the hype this game has receive people are going to be crying so much its going to make history.
SWTOR?....as much as I like to hate SOE....You need to go back and check...SOE had nothing to do with SWTOR, case in point, they were forced to kill SWG by Luca Arts so that .....EA could show how well they can bilk starwars fans.
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SWG - You blame SoE, I put more blame on LA, they had creative final say, to make it short, LA says jump, SoE had to say how high imo. Game needed worked on, but it needed balancing/content. Comes in at #5
EQ2 - Didn't really play.
EQ - top 2 for me, disliked the instanced direction, but still had 6-8 years total of play time for me.
VG - Top 5 for me, they kind of ignored it, but it was also a jumbled mess of programming code supposedly that didn't lend itself to being fixed...Yeah they promised a relaunch long ago, but still a top 5 for me.
I have no PS1, have a PS2, it is 99% of the time a Blu-ray/Netflix player, not a big console player, I have stuff, but it is no where near the useage of my PC.
So yeah, I do not agree with everything SoE has done, but they are no worse than anyone else, couple that with people being involved in EQN that have been a part of 3 of my top 5 mmos, I do not feel the need to doom and gloom anything before I see it. I may dislike/hate what they do, I do not pretend to know otherwise, but I am going to stay positive, until I have reason not to be. I don't try to squeeze out meaning for the most part from cryptic tweets.
More like ~5.5 Billion years but who is counting?
Dude coming to boards to spew opinions and portray it as fact? Check.
Dude never played the game yet comes to his own conclusions? Check.
Dude knows everything about a game that he knows nothing about? Check.
Dude thinks his opinion sways my desicion one way or the other? Check.
Gonna play EQNext regardless of what anyone else says about it? Check.
The game was re-done from scratch. They released that info. Didn't know they needed to meet your quota on information before a title is shown. They haven't released any information because they want to sell tickets to SoE live. And so what if it's not playable. Didn't know they needed to meet your quota on that too. How about you let them release a finished game instead of SoE releasing a Hot Mess like they did with Vanguard. Patience youngling.
Stylized is not the same as Cartoony. If you want cartoony check out Wildstar. Classes are most likely in but based on Dave Georgeson's remarks at Pax East there will be an ability for any class to do any role so lets wait and see how this plays out. Not as good as an open ended skill system I'll agree but I will put faith it works out based on those remarks at Pax. There will always be buffs and nerfs so lets just hope that the Beta Test goes smooth so we can get the majority of the balance done when it needs to be...in a beta.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Forgot -
Dude fanboy of another game about to come out? Check.
Edit: Sorry, hit wrong button and posted nothing. Which kind of fits the whole thread as we are again debating EQN's design when we don't have any idea what it will be.
SOE stated they could have shown the game at E3, but wanted to wait until their own event to show their fans the game first.
Also, you may want to check out SOE Live's EQN panel lineup...
I was only a billion years off. Closer than the other end of the world predictors have been lately.
Dude this is SOE !!! They ruined EQ1 , they ruined SWG , they ruined EQ2 , they ruined SWTOR .
There track record is not good man , I expect EQN to be the biggest failure in MMO history due to the hype this game has receive people are going to be crying so much its going to make history.
You dont have to buy it...it's online for free!!!!.....
http://8ball.tridelphia.net/
Yeah, can't be that they promised people that they would reveal it at their fan faire, that is expensive for most people to go to....Yeah couldn't be that they wanted to piss a lot of people off.
They have already said that information would come out fast once the reveal hit.
Smedley was giving out sexual favors at E3 to get best in show from 2-3 publications that were shown non-existant stuff?
Best in show doesn't mean much to me, as I do not like most mmo stuff coming out now, so it could be a bad thing for me, but I will have to wait and see.
Also, bringing something that they supposedly do not want people to see/copy out of the black box in a not even near alpha state makes zero sense.
Just say I wish SoE was swallowed into a black hole, Smedley first, hate is ok, just get it out there, don't hide it, don't be passive aggressive....Just proclaim it and own it.
Or greatness. EQ1 was ambitious and it was the gateway drug to MMO's. Before there was addictions in WoW. There was EverCrack!
There you go, that's better.
SoE ruined EQ, like Blizzard ruined WoW, and EA ruined UO.... Companies make decisions to chase the customer/money, and many people end up not liking it, but it isn't a SoE thing.
Just to be fair, Blizzard was sitting on "Titan" for a long time, without releasing anything other than "yea, we're working on it". They were planning on announcing at Blizcon, but quickly backtracked and reset the project (much like how SOE did with EQN)
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Played: Everything
Playing: Nioh 2, Civ6
Wants: The World
Anticipating: Everquest Next Crowfall, Pantheon, Elden Ring
They said they would release info on EQN the next fan faire. Check.
There is a Live Stream of the Event free of charge. Check.
Why you bitching? Unknown!
I wasn't bitching about SoE....People going to the event are paying good money, was saying if they released everything ahead of time, after people paid this money to be there for the reveal, they probably would not be happy.
Did you mean to reply to me, or really read my post?
I know eh? I told you it was coming, but the dude's 2 weeks early.
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SWTOR?....as much as I like to hate SOE....You need to go back and check...SOE had nothing to do with SWTOR, case in point, they were forced to kill SWG by Luca Arts so that .....EA could show how well they can bilk starwars fans.