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Video: EverQuest Next Roleplay On Planetside 2

DejoblueDejoblue Member UncommonPosts: 307
This is me roleplaying on Planetside 2 pretending that it is EverQuest Next. I go to all three zones. Snowy Esamir, Lush Amerish and Barren Desert of Indar.

I wanted to show what EQN might look like and that my 5 year old machine plays it on max settings very well. While I do not know why the fraps FPS meter shows 60 my actual framerate is about 40 - 60 alone in the wilderness and 25 - 40 while in combat. Keep in mind that there are a couple of lag spikes that are due to me using fraps while running around.

My computer specs:

Win 7 Ultimate 64
Core 2 duo e8500 3.16 ghz
Gigabyte MOBO: Ep45t-ud3p
ATI Radeon 4890 1Gig RAM
8 Gigs system ram 1600 DDR3

Comments

  • Storm_CloudStorm_Cloud Member UncommonPosts: 401

    Hehe, that's weird... Those spires at the end of the video, kinda looks like the wizard spires in north karana, from EQ1....

     

  • MasterfuzzfuzzMasterfuzzfuzz Member Posts: 169
    The sad thing is it will be 3rd person. Ruining most of the game for me honestly. It's the most immersion breaking feature in my book. The game looks so much nicer through first person than it does third =(. The gameplay better be amazing (probably average) or it's just gonna be another 4 week mmo.
  • Dreamo84Dreamo84 Member UncommonPosts: 3,713
    Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
    The sad thing is it will be 3rd person. Ruining most of the game for me honestly. It's the most immersion breaking feature in my book. The game looks so much nicer through first person than it does third =(. The gameplay better be amazing (probably average) or it's just gonna be another 4 week mmo.

    Like most every other MMO you can always zoom in and play first person.

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  • AceshighhhhAceshighhhh Member Posts: 185
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
    The sad thing is it will be 3rd person. Ruining most of the game for me honestly. It's the most immersion breaking feature in my book. The game looks so much nicer through first person than it does third =(. The gameplay better be amazing (probably average) or it's just gonna be another 4 week mmo.

    Like most every other MMO you can always zoom in and play first person.

    It's not nearly the same because all of those MMO's have been designed around a third-person perspective. Going into first-person view in these games is extremely awkward and generally puts you at a disadvantage. Also not to mention that the "first person" in most MMO's is just a shitty slapped on zoom-in feature.

  • Dreamo84Dreamo84 Member UncommonPosts: 3,713
    Originally posted by Aceshighhhh
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
    The sad thing is it will be 3rd person. Ruining most of the game for me honestly. It's the most immersion breaking feature in my book. The game looks so much nicer through first person than it does third =(. The gameplay better be amazing (probably average) or it's just gonna be another 4 week mmo.

    Like most every other MMO you can always zoom in and play first person.

    It's not nearly the same because all of those MMO's have been designed around a third-person perspective. Going into third-person view and this games is extremely awkward and generally puts you at a disadvantage. Also not to mention that the "first person" in most MMO's is just a shitty slapped on zoom-in feature.

    Isn't it always just a zoomed in perspective? What do you expect to be different? I mean, I can zoom in to first person in WoW for instance and other than not having a gun I don't see any difference from Planetside. Though in WoW you can't see your weapon at all I suppose which is a little immersion breaking. But in FPS games you can't see your characters feet which always bugged me lol.

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  • AceshighhhhAceshighhhh Member Posts: 185
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    Originally posted by Aceshighhhh
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
    The sad thing is it will be 3rd person. Ruining most of the game for me honestly. It's the most immersion breaking feature in my book. The game looks so much nicer through first person than it does third =(. The gameplay better be amazing (probably average) or it's just gonna be another 4 week mmo.

    Like most every other MMO you can always zoom in and play first person.

    It's not nearly the same because all of those MMO's have been designed around a third-person perspective. Going into third-person view and this games is extremely awkward and generally puts you at a disadvantage. Also not to mention that the "first person" in most MMO's is just a shitty slapped on zoom-in feature.

    Isn't it always just a zoomed in perspective? What do you expect to be different? I mean, I can zoom in to first person in WoW for instance and other than not having a gun I don't see any difference from Planetside. Though in WoW you can't see your weapon at all I suppose which is a little immersion breaking. But in FPS games you can't see your characters feet which always bugged me lol.

    The difference is that all of the buildings, mobs, terrain, and basically all of the environments were designed around a third-person perspective so everything is generally much bigger or awkward looking when going into first-person. Every fight is also generally designed with this perspective in mind so you won't be able to see something like mob adds spawning or an indication of a big boss attack if you're limited in view.

    Although I do agree I would like to be able to see my lower body and feet in a FPS. I personally would prefer a forced first-person perspective for EQN, but that's just me. This would give awesome opportunities to things like the Oculus Rift.

  • Gallus85Gallus85 Member Posts: 1,092

    I don't mind 3rd or 1st person MMORPGs, as long as they're done right.

    Skyrim is a perfect example of how you can make a game both 1st and 3rd person without sacrificing the quality or give any real combat advantage to either PoV.

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  • fyerwallfyerwall Member UncommonPosts: 3,240
    why does the gun unnaturally bounce around in the players hand? It was driving me insane...

    There are 3 types of people in the world.
    1.) Those who make things happen
    2.) Those who watch things happen
    3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  • asdarasdar Member UncommonPosts: 662

    It makes me motion sick when game have that much bounce in their guns as they run. Luckily I found a cure, as long as I remember to take it before I start to feel sick.

    I'm with the 1st person guy. I hope it does have the option to zoom in, even though I also agree with him that games that are designed for 3rd don't look the same.

    Asdar

  • godzilr1godzilr1 Member UncommonPosts: 550
    i think i may have missed something on this thread entirely.  I don't understand the point of showing us a video of PS2 with you pretending to be in EQN....   what are the similiarities we are supposed or differences are we supposed to draw from this.
  • DejoblueDejoblue Member UncommonPosts: 307
    Originally posted by godzilr1
    i think i may have missed something on this thread entirely.  I don't understand the point of showing us a video of PS2 with you pretending to be in EQN....   what are the similiarities we are supposed or differences are we supposed to draw from this.

    PS2 uses the ForgeLight engine which is what EQNext is using. So these environments may very well be similar to what we see in EQN at the very least we can see what ForgeLight can do without you having to download 15 gigs of info to see for yourself.

  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    Originally posted by dejoblue
    This is me roleplaying on Planetside 2 pretending that it is EverQuest Next. I go to all three zones. Snowy Esamir, Lush Amerish and Barren Desert of Indar.

    I wanted to show what EQN might look like and that my 5 year old machine plays it on max settings very well. While I do not know why the fraps FPS meter shows 60 my actual framerate is about 40 - 60 alone in the wilderness and 25 - 40 while in combat. Keep in mind that there are a couple of lag spikes that are due to me using fraps while running around.

    My computer specs:

    Win 7 Ultimate 64
    Core 2 duo e8500 3.16 ghz
    Gigabyte MOBO: Ep45t-ud3p
    ATI Radeon 4890 1Gig RAM
    8 Gigs system ram 1600 DDR3

    I had a similar system when ps2 launched, and it took a complete dump once in combat.

    Since then, they've optimized it considerably, but I still think something along the lines of an i5/i7 is basically required for large scale combat.


  • DejoblueDejoblue Member UncommonPosts: 307
    Originally posted by Dullahan
    Originally posted by dejoblue
    This is me roleplaying on Planetside 2 pretending that it is EverQuest Next. I go to all three zones. Snowy Esamir, Lush Amerish and Barren Desert of Indar.

    I wanted to show what EQN might look like and that my 5 year old machine plays it on max settings very well. While I do not know why the fraps FPS meter shows 60 my actual framerate is about 40 - 60 alone in the wilderness and 25 - 40 while in combat. Keep in mind that there are a couple of lag spikes that are due to me using fraps while running around.

    My computer specs:

    Win 7 Ultimate 64
    Core 2 duo e8500 3.16 ghz
    Gigabyte MOBO: Ep45t-ud3p
    ATI Radeon 4890 1Gig RAM
    8 Gigs system ram 1600 DDR3

    I had a similar system when ps2 launched, and it took a complete dump once in combat.

    Since then, they've optimized it considerably, but I still think something along the lines of an i5/i7 is basically required for large scale combat.

    You caught me I am lying.

  • VocadiVocadi Member UncommonPosts: 205

    Thanks for posting the video. I admit I hadnt paid too much attention to PS2 as it is not my cup of tea however viewing it as a testing ground for the potential of EQ Next graphics is a nice insight. Its a great looking game, so one would hope the same for EQ Next.

    With the total lack of information, Sony had better bring it on Aug 2nd.

     

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  • VorthanionVorthanion Member RarePosts: 2,749
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    Originally posted by Aceshighhhh
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
    The sad thing is it will be 3rd person. Ruining most of the game for me honestly. It's the most immersion breaking feature in my book. The game looks so much nicer through first person than it does third =(. The gameplay better be amazing (probably average) or it's just gonna be another 4 week mmo.

    Like most every other MMO you can always zoom in and play first person.

    It's not nearly the same because all of those MMO's have been designed around a third-person perspective. Going into third-person view and this games is extremely awkward and generally puts you at a disadvantage. Also not to mention that the "first person" in most MMO's is just a shitty slapped on zoom-in feature.

    Isn't it always just a zoomed in perspective? What do you expect to be different? I mean, I can zoom in to first person in WoW for instance and other than not having a gun I don't see any difference from Planetside. Though in WoW you can't see your weapon at all I suppose which is a little immersion breaking. But in FPS games you can't see your characters feet which always bugged me lol.

    The problem I have with most MMOs that have the zoom to first view is the perspective being placed down at about knee level and a field of view that is either queasy or far too short with no periphery.

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  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    Originally posted by dejoblue
    Originally posted by Dullahan
    Originally posted by dejoblue
    This is me roleplaying on Planetside 2 pretending that it is EverQuest Next. I go to all three zones. Snowy Esamir, Lush Amerish and Barren Desert of Indar.

    I wanted to show what EQN might look like and that my 5 year old machine plays it on max settings very well. While I do not know why the fraps FPS meter shows 60 my actual framerate is about 40 - 60 alone in the wilderness and 25 - 40 while in combat. Keep in mind that there are a couple of lag spikes that are due to me using fraps while running around.

    My computer specs:

    Win 7 Ultimate 64
    Core 2 duo e8500 3.16 ghz
    Gigabyte MOBO: Ep45t-ud3p
    ATI Radeon 4890 1Gig RAM
    8 Gigs system ram 1600 DDR3

    I had a similar system when ps2 launched, and it took a complete dump once in combat.

    Since then, they've optimized it considerably, but I still think something along the lines of an i5/i7 is basically required for large scale combat.

    You caught me I am lying.

    Sorry, was I supposed to say, "you're right Dejo!  PS2 runs great in large scale combat with a system 5 years old" ???


  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    The engine is great for all that it can do. FPS is not a strong suit though. It doesn't handle 150+ very well, in fact pretty damn bad. 
  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    Originally posted by bcbully
    The engine is great for all that it can do. FPS is not a strong suit though. It doesn't handle 150+ very well, in fact pretty damn bad. 

    Runs smooth as butter for me, and I've been in fights with well over 150+.  I have noticed that when at the stock 3.4ghz, it gets a little hitchy at times when theres a massive battle.

     

    edit:

    i7 2600 @ 4.5

    8gb 1600 ram

    120gb ssd

    nvidia 480 gtx


  • DejoblueDejoblue Member UncommonPosts: 307
    Originally posted by Dullahan
    Originally posted by bcbully
    The engine is great for all that it can do. FPS is not a strong suit though. It doesn't handle 150+ very well, in fact pretty damn bad. 

    Runs smooth as butter for me, and I've been in fights with well over 150+.  I have noticed that when at the stock 3.4ghz, it gets a little hitchy at times when theres a massive battle.

     

    edit:

    i7 2600 @ 4.5

    8gb 1600 ram

    120gb ssd

    nvidia 480 gtx

    I think your idea of smooth and my idea are two different things. I play MMOs exclusively and am used to zoning into the guild lobby in EQ and having to look at the floor to move, haha, or being in WoW in Org where your fps goes from 120 while looking at the sky to 20 when running over to the auction house, lol.

    Perhaps I should have said it is playable I know that many a FPS player would scream at 25 - 40 FPS lol.  I play MMOs and just accept that it is always going to have issues.

    5 years ago I ran at 100+ FPS and every expansion of every game it slowly went down down down.

    Anyway here is to differences of opinion.

    Cheers!

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