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Great PayToPlay MMORPGS that AREN'T Pay to win?
newvegasseptim
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Alright, i'm moving to pay to play mmorpgs, since i'm Sick and tired of free ones making you pay to be way ahead of other characters and strongest for paying cash, i hate playing an mmorpg for about a week, figuring it's pay to win, then quitting. I've played dragonest, tera, fly for fun, silkroad, etc, and all, EVERY single one were pay to play.
Anyway, what are some good anime or even fantasy mmorpgs, that absolutely aren't pay to win (No not, well it isn't exactly pay to win but you know you're only limited to paying 10$ a day,,, but either NO cash shop, or Just costume items. Please, list at least one good game with good combat hopefully not just left click and pressing a few games, but some games with combat like tera, dragonnest, darkfall, etc, and if you can list a few. Thanks alot.
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Man, GW2 is pay to play now, so is tera which it's always been since cashshop's been there. Then Neverwinter isn't open world and most likely a pay to play, and rift is pay to win and like wow.
Sorry, but everything you said didn't follow any of my needs, thanks though.
are u on crack?
GW2 IS long from Pay to win.. u can't buy the best gear in the game fool.. u need to earn it hardcore... and also GW2 is not Pay to play.. its Free to play.. once u bought the game,
Tera is long from Pay to win also.. there is no gear in the shop only fashion, and exp boost.. so i think u need to search the internet abit..
Neverwinter is also not a pay to win.. and its out of beta long ago..
sigh. thanks for helping out, i'm not sure about guild wars, but listen up.
Tera. Lvl 40+ Booster package, Includes GOLD items. A ring which bolsters 2,200damage along with other stats, is this not true? And also elite status' get So much bonus stuff it's kinda ridiculous.
And GW2, i'm not positive it's p2w, but i did hear indeed you can buy stats. extra stats for real money = above advantage upon other people= pay to win.
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The word HARDCORE and GW2 should never be used in the same sentence. Secondly a game that cost $40 bucks upfront without even giving access to a free trial should never be called FREE.
The problem is that "good" and "fair" are highly subjective. One can argue that paying extra for advantages is fair, because you supported the developer to earn those advantages.
You can't buy stats in GW2, but you can buy gold. Really not an issue since the best gear at the moment isn't very hard to get.
In arena PVP you get handed the best gear in the game from the start so it isn't P2W that way either.
Make games you want to play.
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You can't buy stats in GW2. You can buy some XP boosters and such, but they're a waste of money and I don't think anyone uses them. You can also buy gold and use it to buy armor, but the best armor (stats wise) is so easy go get it's a bit pointless.
Final Fantasy XIV: ARR won't have a cash shop, I think, so it'll surely not be P2W.
Rift is not P2W, I doubt you even checked it out yourself.
Fine, we'll compromise. I'll get my way & you'll find a way to be okay with that.
I really wanted to like TSW but it just didn't hook me. One day I realized I hadn't played the game in over 2 weeks and didn't miss it.
I would recommend GW2 though. Fun game.
He said P2P, not pay2win (but I think he missed the difference).
And no, GW2 and TERA ain't pay2win. Neither is Wow actually, I think it really is the last P2P game which isn't pay2win (except maybe Eve) but that might change soon, hard to say.
Neverwinter is p2win though, they just sell too much important stuff for real money in it.
A game is p2win if buying stuff give you a huge benefit in the game. Not some extra bankspace, character slots or even a few balanced races, but gear with good stats, better mounts and classes. It is still p2win if you can get the same gear but have to grind forever to get it as in some Asian MMOs.
I used my first XP boost in GW2 yesterday, but I have a bunch and got them all for free and I only use it because I have several maxed out characters and completed all the PvE except a few fractals in the game.
There is one thing you could do though that is somewhat p2win and that is buying gems and exchange them for gold to make you legendary weapon somewhat easier to get. But you still need to complete 100% completion of all zones (I have a little in 3 PvP zones left) and a few other rather hard things to get it so anyone just can't buy a legendary.
Besides that there really isn't anything you could buy that makes a big difference and since you actually can exchange gold for gems as well you can buy bankspace and char slots for gold (then again, they are not a big advantage, don't collect so much junk or use a character as a mule and you don't really need more char slots).
Doesn't exist in traditional MMOs. You can pay to win in any game that has gear tiers and rare items.
I would say GW1 is the closest you will get, since it is so easy to cap and get the best stat gear. Although even that can be purchased with RL cash if you don't want to play for it.
You can pay to win in WoW, just buy a character in max tier gear with RL cash.
Yeah, but that is really against the NDA so it is more cheating than actually p2win. And you could buy an old account with good toons on in any MMO with that thinking.
The XP boosts are a bit pointless, because they only give you more XP for kills, which don't give much XP in the first place. They only make a difference if you visit some super-populated DEs with a ton of mobs.
A pretty good argument can be made about Legendaries being P2W (you win in GW2 by getting unique skins, so being able to buy a Legendary is paying to win), but Legendary stats aren't any better than Exotic stats, so it's not P2W stat wise. You can just buy a Legendary off the TP with real money, by the way, but the cost is insane. Most of them go for over 700$.
Against the whodawhat?
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