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ckeeton999ckeeton999 Member CommonPosts: 53
in EverQuest Next

 

They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

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  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130

    People are going by evidence so far.

    -Terry Michaels yesterdy: "I would not call this game a hardcore MMO. We want something that is accessible to a larger number of people"

    -The little combat that was shown so far used red squares so you would know where to stand and it consisted of a warrior soloing doing LEEROY JENKINS moves.

    -It looks like a Disney adventure

    What exactly do you want people to think? That it is some hardcore adventure but with cutesey graphics? Don't kid yourself, you're going to be even more disappointed than EQ vets.

  • FratmanFratman Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by ckeeton999

     

    They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

    So far we know you'll have 8 abilities maximum at any one time and it's gonna be on the PS4. I'd say the burden is on you to show why it won't be an easy mode faceroller.

  • NagelRitterNagelRitter Member Posts: 607
    Originally posted by Fratman

    So far we know you'll have 8 abilities maximum at any one time and it's gonna be on the PS4. I'd say the burden is on you to show why it won't be an easy mode faceroller.

    Dota has 4 abilities.

    Why don't you go ahead and dominate the scene while you're at it. Since, clearly, the number of abilities and how "actiony" is all that matters. It must be a faceroll game according to you.

    Even better, go play Demon's Souls. It doesn't even have abilities. It's actiony. It's a console game. Console games are easy, right.

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  • xAPOCxxAPOCx Member UncommonPosts: 869
    Originally posted by Kiyoris

    People are going by evidence so far.

    -Terry Michaels yesterdy: "I would not call this game a hardcore MMO. We want something that is accessible to a larger number of people"

    -The little combat that was shown so far used red squares so you would know where to stand and it consisted of a warrior soloing doing LEEROY JENKINS moves.

    -It looks like a Disney adventure

    What exactly do you want people to think? That it is some hardcore adventure but with cutesey graphics? Don't kid yourself, you're going to be even more disappointed than EQ vets.

    This. I know this info has just come out and we still dont know everything about the game but i can say without a doubt, from what iv seen so far i will NOT be playing EQN.

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  • zethcarnzethcarn Member UncommonPosts: 1,558
    Originally posted by Fratman
    Originally posted by ckeeton999

     

    They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

    So far we know you'll have 8 abilities maximum at any one time and it's gonna be on the PS4. I'd say the burden is on you to show why it won't be an easy mode faceroller.

    Please enlighten us with evidence of how difficult the A.I. will be in the final release of the game.  Also, can I buy your time machine?

  • FoomerangFoomerang Member UncommonPosts: 5,628

    Originally posted by Fratman
    Originally posted by ckeeton999   They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything
    So far we know you'll have 8 abilities maximum at any one time and it's gonna be on the PS4. I'd say the burden is on you to show why it won't be an easy mode faceroller.

    Not saying it will or wont be faceroll, but 8 buttons on PS4 is not an indicator of either.
  • CallsignVegaCallsignVega Member UncommonPosts: 288

    Wow, that video was just horrible. Really bad and simple cartoon graphics, huge/low detail and goofy looking player armor and weapons. Gimmicky combat. If you told me I was watching a trivial game like WoW or GW2, I would have believed you.

     

    This thing just instantly fell off my radar. I guess a second chance for an incredible game like EQ1 again will be dead forever. This game has incredible fail written all over it. 

  • PurutzilPurutzil Member UncommonPosts: 3,048
    Originally posted by Kiyoris

    -It looks like a Disney adventure

    What exactly do you want people to think? That it is some hardcore adventure but with cutesey graphics? Don't kid yourself, you're going to be even more disappointed than EQ vets.

    You know... if you are using that as evidence how ignorant you sound right? So let me guess you assume disney movies to be all kiddie and far worst written then say the Die Hard movie? 

     

    Anyways as further retort to this comment...  Yeah this is a very kiddie and easy mode game here right, only 2 button and the direction keys with that lame anime/cutsey dialog boxes and cutsie looking boss! Totally kiddie which naturally means not hardcore like due to those graphics!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h-LwpY-HLs#t=6m50s

     

    Seriously, its funny how ignorant people are. YES we can speculate stuff, but throwing in 'its this or that' is just stupid. Sure, I don't like everything I hear thus far, but it doesn't mean i'm discrediting it either.

  • FratmanFratman Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by zethcarn
    Originally posted by Fratman
    Originally posted by ckeeton999

     

    They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

    So far we know you'll have 8 abilities maximum at any one time and it's gonna be on the PS4. I'd say the burden is on you to show why it won't be an easy mode faceroller.

    Please enlighten us with evidence of how difficult the A.I. will be in the final release of the game.  Also, can I buy your time machine?

    That's my point, genius. We don't know yet.You're assuming a lot of things. I'm going by what we actually know for sure at this point.

  • ariestearieste Member UncommonPosts: 3,309
    Originally posted by ckeeton999

     

    They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

    Well, let's look at it objectively.  Which of the numerous 8-button action games do you consider as having deep and complex combat?   I remember TSW as being quite good, but it was limited to 5-person combat last i played.

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  • AzothAzoth Member UncommonPosts: 840

    The number of abilities isn't an indication of the level of difficulty in the game.

    But in the video we saw, you have a warrior taking down 20 mobs before the caster can throw out 1 spell. That's what is  making it seem way too easy. Now maybe they were in god mode and that's why they didn't care to stand in the path of damage we don't know yet.

    I just miss the old time when you would need to team up to clear the trash mobs and a bad pull would most likely mean death or evac.

     

  • zethcarnzethcarn Member UncommonPosts: 1,558
    Originally posted by Fratman
    Originally posted by zethcarn
    Originally posted by Fratman
    Originally posted by ckeeton999

     

    They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

    So far we know you'll have 8 abilities maximum at any one time and it's gonna be on the PS4. I'd say the burden is on you to show why it won't be an easy mode faceroller.

    Please enlighten us with evidence of how difficult the A.I. will be in the final release of the game.  Also, can I buy your time machine?

    That's my point, genius. We don't know yet.You're assuming a lot of things. I'm going by what we actually know for sure at this point.

    You need better reading comprehension.  I haven't assumed anything.  I'm going against all the people making baseless assumptions.

  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    Originally posted by Azoth

     

    But in the video we saw, you have a warrior taking down 20 mobs before the caster can throw out 1 spell. That's what is  making it seem way too easy. Now maybe they were in god mode and that's why they didn't care to stand in the path of damage we don't know yet.

    I just miss the old time when you would need to team up to clear the trash mobs and a bad pull would most likely mean death or evac.

     

    Exactly. In EQ killing one mob actually took time, coordination and strategy.

    This is just.........argh.............I can't stand these faceroll easymode games anymore

     

  • FratmanFratman Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by zethcarn
    Originally posted by Fratman
    Originally posted by zethcarn
    Originally posted by Fratman
    Originally posted by ckeeton999

     

    They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

    So far we know you'll have 8 abilities maximum at any one time and it's gonna be on the PS4. I'd say the burden is on you to show why it won't be an easy mode faceroller.

    Please enlighten us with evidence of how difficult the A.I. will be in the final release of the game.  Also, can I buy your time machine?

    That's my point, genius. We don't know yet.You're assuming a lot of things. I'm going by what we actually know for sure at this point.

    You need better reading comprehension.  I haven't assumed anything.  I'm going against all the people making baseless assumptions.

    You're countering the argument of the game being easy by pointing to the AI difficulty of which you know nothing about yet. You're assuming. Please don't. Stick to the facts, sir.

  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    I responded in another thread to someone who jumped on the word "hardcore" in Smedley's or someone else's description of EQ Next by saying this is simply marketing.  The word "hardcore" is one of those buzzwords that gamers love to hear and make them feel all squishy inside.  What we do know is Sony is aiming to get as many players as possible, so of course "hardcore" in the sense of perma death and FF open world PvP will not be central to the game.  As I listened to Georgeson the other day and read about the game, I kept thinking ...."so like GW2".   I realize GW2 is becoming as polarizing a game as WoW these days, but lets face it:  WoW and now GW2 have a large number of players.  If you want to aim at a mass market, the game will have to be playable by people with varying degrees of skill and MMO experience.  No doubt the majority of the content will be "easy" in the words of the"hardcore"  group on here who seem to dislike anything that isn't head bashing frustrating to play.  
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    They demo'd abilities that were clearly designed to take on large numbers at once? Why would they do that in a demo if the focus was on longer strategic one on one combat? No, this game is about action at a high rolling "keep-it-moving" pace. Yeah, I think there is a lot of credibility to those demos as to how the action combat is going to roll. Literally.....roll.
  • wowclonezwowclonez Member Posts: 74
    Originally posted by ckeeton999

     

    They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

    Everyone is entitled to an opinion, no need to call people dumb because they aren't liking the art style or combat. The moderators here let people post stuff like this, but if you say something negative about the game your thread gets locked? Makes no sense.

  • FratmanFratman Member Posts: 344
    Originally posted by wowclonez
    Originally posted by ckeeton999

     

    They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

    Everyone is entitled to an opinion, no need to call people dumb because they aren't liking the art style or combat. The moderators here let people post stuff like this, but if you say something negative about the game your thread gets locked? Makes no sense.

    It's ok. They're just upset because they can't point to any facts that indicate the game won't be faceroll. Let them vent.

  • NobleNerdNobleNerd Member UncommonPosts: 759

    One thing I am not ignorant to is the fact that this game is SOE and SOE has not put out a great title in a long, long, long time. I have no hope in a developing team that has not proven themselves.

     

    I do hope for the sake of something different that even 20% of the hype holds true for EQ Next.


  • grimjakkgrimjakk Member Posts: 192
    Originally posted by arieste
    Originally posted by ckeeton999

     

    They show a tech demo and all of a sudden everyone says its going to be a facerolling easy mode action rpg, no offense but this is how dumb people are when they see anything

    Well, let's look at it objectively.  Which of the numerous 8-button action games do you consider as having deep and complex combat?   I remember TSW as being quite good, but it was limited to 5-person combat last i played.

    Define "deep and complex". 

    You mean, "don't stand in the fire"?  Or maybe, something like this guy?

     

    These are MMO's.  There's not a single damn one of them that's really brain surgery.   It's more like cat herding.

     

  • asdarasdar Member UncommonPosts: 662

    I'm still going to try the game, but I agree with the other idiots. What we know points to easy mode combat without pulling, CC or group interdependence.

    We can only go by what we see. The launch surprised me, even blew me away like the devs said it would. I know that I could be pleasantly surprised again and the combat isn't as awful as it looked.

    Asdar

  • Dreamo84Dreamo84 Member UncommonPosts: 3,713
    EQ1 combat isn't even fun anymore. And it was only fun then because it was so new.

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  • VentlusVentlus Member Posts: 96
    so i was really disapointed with guildwars 2 because i had played guildwars 1. Since i never played the previous everquests i have no expectations for this, so i could like it or not like it. In all honesty the thing that interests me the most about the game is the building aspect tho :<. So its f2p and it could be fun possibly lol
  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    I guess some of you didn't see the mob putting down a red target ring on the ground.  WoW and GW2 both have these.
  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by Kiyoris
    Originally posted by Azoth

     

    But in the video we saw, you have a warrior taking down 20 mobs before the caster can throw out 1 spell. That's what is  making it seem way too easy. Now maybe they were in god mode and that's why they didn't care to stand in the path of damage we don't know yet.

    I just miss the old time when you would need to team up to clear the trash mobs and a bad pull would most likely mean death or evac.

     

    Exactly. In EQ killing one mob actually took time, coordination and strategy.

    This is just.........argh.............I can't stand these faceroll easymode games anymore

     

    lets look at it like this

    1 the mob UI was obviously turned off

    2 I am sure that the devs use a "god mode" feature for demos

    3 have you ever gone to a starter zone on a fully decked out char?  Of course everything is going to look like a faceroll, they are showing what the skills look like, not how much damage they do

     

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