Dave Georgeson: Can all Races play all Classes? Vote now

Telondariel · August 2013

There is another recent tweet from Dave here, where he is putting the question out there for the community to discuss and vote on. While you can discuss it on his Twitter, the vote itself is on the Roundtable.

leoo88556 · August 2013

Definitely a no for me... I can already see so many weird combination right now XD

Rayshe · August 2013

Yes all races should be able to play all classes, but some should be laughably bad at it.

Saxx0n · August 2013

I went with lore based restrictions.

Xthos · August 2013

They kind of threw everything else out the window, so sure, why not?

Telondariel · August 2013

Originally posted by Rayshe
Yes all races should be able to play all classes, but some should be laughably bad at it.

I like the idea of some of the purely evil classes and wholly good classes not being accessible by everyone. For instance, a Troll Paladin or a High Elf Necromancer. In EQ2 you could do it through betraying, but I still like the idea of keeping some boundaries intact.

One of the voting options, as you mentioned, is to allow it but enact a penalty. I like this idea as well. I don't think a race that is born and raised in a purely evil or good environment should be able to fully master the opposite faction's class.

Kiyoris · August 2013

I voted no.

Zen_Blade · August 2013

I'm for Lore based restrictions, though I could side with the all combos, some with penalties option. Make races and cultural differences matter. We should have different cities and starting areas by race and possibly by religious choices as well. Lore/World trump all in a virtual world IMO.

jdnewell · August 2013

Voted for lore based resrictions

Kiyoris · August 2013

Originally posted by jdnewell
Voted for lore based resrictions

same

Sovrath · August 2013

Originally posted by jdnewell
Voted for lore based resrictions

me too.

Nilden · August 2013

Originally posted by Saxx0n
I went with lore based restrictions.

Same and it was 40% when I voted.

DeserttFoxx · August 2013

As much as i have my doubts about this game... roundtable wil keep me hovering around for the next year or so throughout its devolopment.

I love this idea, and i think it should be carried on by all devs in the future.

Yyrkoon_PoM · August 2013

I voted lore based only, but only because the crying of all the unhappy Drizzt Do'Urden wanna be Dark Elf Rangers will make me happy.

Meltdown · August 2013

Their choice of words on the roundtables drive me nuts though... I will probably end up voting for restrictions based on Lore, but I WOULD LOVE for there being no restrictions and just have penalties for choosing non-lore combinations. But really, read that option fully:

I want to play any class with the race I choose, even if it means a penalty to some combinations

If this got the most votes and they implement any race any class with no penalties they can still just point to the round table and say YOU VOTED FOR IT!!! There was another roundtable where all the options were some permutation of "Yes" and I lol'd at it

nolic1 · August 2013

I picked the one where yes but with restrictions and I feel this should work that way because of main class race and choice fo good to follow. Let me explain why a Froglok Paladin under Mithrial Mar would be good but it does not mean he could not learn somethings of the thief class he would have a restriction on it. Just like a Wood-elf Druid who followed the god of nature Tunar they could learn to be a warrior but would be restricted based on that it still fits into the lore and also gives you a chance to make some really cool combos of class skills and maybe weapon choice.

Rydeson · August 2013

This question makes NO sense what so ever .... If you have 40 classes, and promoting them all, why is he ASKING about race/class restrictions.. (which happens to be 40%).. Logically this means NOT everyone will be allowed to train in ALL 40 classes, which means you are also restricted from those skills on "swap" too.... I wonder how many fans of EQN that like the 40 mult class voted for restriction, NOT realizing they are contradicting themselves...???

Telondariel · August 2013

Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
As much as i have my doubts about this game... roundtable wil keep me hovering around for the next year or so throughout its devolopment.

I love this idea, and i think it should be carried on by all devs in the future.

I think its great as well. They finally seem to be making efforts to listen to the community.

I also think as people warm up to idea of the Roundtable and it becomes more active, they will start more in-depth discussions and polls. Right now it has just launched, not everyone knows about it, so they are starting slow to gain participation.

ElRenmazuo · August 2013

I voted no because I like to play one character. Even if they do have restrictions, I dont want them to lock too many classes for each race, like I wouldnt mind one or two class restrictions per race but more than that it just takes the longevity of playing one character and also takes away the potential for mixing classes.

Crazy_Stick · August 2013

I am betwixt and between. I think all the base classes should be open to all races but that some of the special classes you open up by adventuring should be restricted if for no other reason than to provide each race with something unique.

Nanfoodle · August 2013

I voted give it to me all on one char.

wizardanim · August 2013

This is a difficult question.

Because:

If you multiclass, like the devs have done, and then do not provide characters the ability to pick any class, you will run into combinations of skills that will never exist for certain races, possibly creating extremely preferred or unbalanced characters. (Not a bad thing, design decision)

Only speaking to the idea that they are moving forward with ... this becomes a very tight race balancing game, vs a skill balancing game which sounds like what they were going for. Again not a bad thing, just a design decision.

A character finding a class or unlocking a class means they have completed the required task to do so. If there are two characters that unlock class A after completing a quest, but only one character can use it ... strange for me to think about.

Shaigh · August 2013

Originally posted by Rydeson
This question makes NO sense what so ever .... If you have 40 classes, and promoting them all, why is he ASKING about race/class restrictions.. (which happens to be 40%).. Logically this means NOT everyone will be allowed to train in ALL 40 classes, which means you are also restricted from those skills on "swap" too.... I wonder how many fans of EQN that like the 40 mult class voted for restriction, NOT realizing they are contradicting themselves...???

I agree, in a class-system that is all about choices made in the game and freedom to create your own gamestyle it makes no sense to have class restrictions based on your race.

Eeks · August 2013

Yeah... I already thought it was a given that all races could be all classes. They keep talking about going out and getting 40 classes. Additionally, they stressed that they don't want your decisions when making your character to haunt you later on.

Stiler · August 2013

I am really disappointed in the majority of voting so far .

I say let ANYONE be ANY class they want, it's THEIR character, not yours. It has no affect on your playing or enjoyment of the game, to want to take that away makes no sense and is just plain selfish imo.

Also having "penalties" for playing A race/class combo? What's the point? PEople will see it as self-gimping.

If there are "penalities" there should be ways to get around them, to overcome that race-based penalty somehow (through a quest line or something).

Like if you play a character who's generally considered "dumb" compared to other races, throughout the game you can learn and educate your character and raise his intellect to be just as good as the other races.

So it's a penalty, but temporay and one that the player can overcome throughout playing the game.

wizardanim · August 2013

Originally posted by Shaigh
Originally posted by Rydeson
This question makes NO sense what so ever .... If you have 40 classes, and promoting them all, why is he ASKING about race/class restrictions.. (which happens to be 40%).. Logically this means NOT everyone will be allowed to train in ALL 40 classes, which means you are also restricted from those skills on "swap" too.... I wonder how many fans of EQN that like the 40 mult class voted for restriction, NOT realizing they are contradicting themselves...???

I agree, in a class-system that is all about choices made in the game and freedom to create your own gamestyle it makes no sense to have class restrictions based on your race.

Well so far it is not going this way:

Total % for race restrictions at the time of this post: 40.3 + 13.8 = 54.1%
Total % for no/some race restrictions at the time of this post: 25 + 19 = 44%

I’d like to see certain races restricted to certain classes based on lore		40.3%
I want to play any class with the race I choose, even if it means a penalty to some combinations		25.0%
It adds interest and replayability if some races can't play some classes		13.8%
I prefer to play just one character, so I want to be able to access all classes if I want.		19.0%
I don’t have a strong preference either way		2.0%

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