Local auction houses promote trade and a good economy

Torgrim · August 2013

This what I love about EVE economy and the local trading hubs.

SOE sead they are gonna make best sandbox ever "more or less" so I really hope the trading will be local.

And I really hope different regions will have different kind of harvestable materials so you have to go to a specific region to get it which in turn promotes trading to the local trading houses.

What do you guys think?

SpottyGekko · August 2013

Local economies can only exist if the world is very big and there's no instant travel. EVE has both of those qualifiers, but I can't see EQNext having 30min travel times between major region capitals.

Karteli · August 2013

WoW Vanilla originally had separate economies, but that pretty much bombed, because people enjoyed one-stop-shopping and would just flock to a particular local economy anyways. The neutral AH never did very well either.

I'd rather have a local auction mixed with a good economy set up more like their original Bazaar. Nobody has done an AH as good as WoW anyways, so it's frustrating when a game has a stinky economy because of a stinky AH design.

Agnostic42 · August 2013

If they moved the Bazaar to the Commonlands tunnel and set it up so players could purchase or rent stalls with limited space. if they allowed the vendors to hold auctions or had a public auction with one NPC barking out over the interior of the tunnel where players could post items on the single barker and eventually the NPC would reach the selected item and then the auction would be held. Only allow players to place a few items on the barker, and the rest would have to be sold at the vendor stalls. I could see this working quite well. Players could browse what would be available for auction and what time the auction for that item would be held, and then to win the item they could either place a flat bid or be present to raise that bid during the time of auction.

I could see crafters hanging out all day inside either their homes to make the items or in the tunnel to sell them.

Mardy · August 2013

Localized marketplace would be nice, but don't expect EQN to do anything even remotely considered tedious. So until they show me otherwise, I'm going to believe they'll have 1 auction house that can be accessed anytime, anywhere, much like how GW2 has it.

Wolfenpride · August 2013

One of the things I liked about Ryzom actually. I doubt they'll do it, but it would be neat.

Quazal.A · August 2013

Originally posted by Karteli

I'd rather have a local auction mixed with a good economy set up more like their original Bazaar. Nobody has done an AH as good as WoW anyways, so it's frustrating when a game has a stinky economy because of a stinky AH design.

AH auction was gawd aweful so simple that a 6year old with basic maths could manipulate it.

Any form of trade post / auction house to have an impact on the economics of the game MUST as pure basic have ability to place buy orders, without buy orders you cannot have an equilibrium decided by players.

Any game where only items for sale are on the auction CANNOT EVER be considered a game with economics, because then its just about he who lists the lowest sells and this is not economics

Think in terms of shares, why do you think when you look at stock trading you see both Buy and Sell price, having the buy price has impact on the sell price, but the sell price then impacts the buy price, - Thus equilibrium

Finally on your point

The design on the AH does not impact economy but he points above does, and thus throws even the feintest idea that WoW had anything but the simplest form of market place, and not an economy

Finally,

The reason EvEs economy is considered the shining light is that there is almost nothing that is in game that is made by NPC - the only items that are NPC seeded are the blueprints to make the items and also in terms of consumables its the Implants - and even then us players hope the day will come when CCP remove Implants from NPC purchases / stores

Until other wanna be Eveonomic style games you must first stop selling ANY.EVERY thing from the NPC - Want basic armor ? Buy it from player . Want food / water ? buy it from a player.

Aelious · August 2013

Originally posted by Torgrim
This what I love about EVE economy and the local trading hubs.

SOE sead they are gonna make best sandbox ever "more or less" so I really hope the trading will be local.

And I really hope different regions will have different kind of harvestable materials so you have to go to a specific region to get it which in turn promotes trading to the local trading houses.

What do you guys think?

I agree 100%. If each "kingdom" surrounding a city had it's own market it would promote travel to other places which is always a plus. From what I gather when you mine into land your getting the same type of material, the voxels are tagged. If you mine grey rock you get that type for building, same as if in a desert and hat rock would look different.

jesusjuice69 · August 2013

Originally posted by SpottyGekko
Local economies can only exist if the world is very big and there's no instant travel. EVE has both of those qualifiers, but I can't see EQNext having 30min travel times between major region capitals.

You forgot 2 things.

Eve transport ships are slow and easy to kill.

You die, and you lose all your shit.

This is what stops most people from bothering to trade.

If these 2 factors weren't there than every tom dick and harry would do it, and the prices would be the same just about everywhere.

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