Originally posted by skeaser Storyline, Final Fantasy setting, multi-class, pretty good dialogue, gorgeous environments, detailed armors, unique creatures and "old-school" trinity combat tab-targeting. While the new action MMOs are fun none of them have seemed to manage to incorporate much in the way of strategy.
I don't disagree with that. Can you elaborate on multi-class?
Also, I've never played a FF game...would there be any chance of me enjoying this game as a total noob to anything FF related?
You can have every class on one character and can mix and match certain classes skills. Some of the combos come up to what are called jobs, which are like advanced classes. To switch you just have to talk to a trainer then grab the appropriate weapon. Every 5 levels you get a cross class slot and can use another skill from another class that you've earned.
I'm not a real good explained but here's a good summation.
Not exactly sure what the point of your post is. I'm not talking about the graphics. I'm talking about the tab target combat, ! over head questing, skill bars and icons to choose your abilities...it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years.
"and the game looks like WoW." Sounded like you were talking about the graphics. I agree with the overhead questing though. But it seems to be the standard now so I try and overlook it in favor of other features. I do like tab targeting and icons for my abilities. I'm an eq1 player so I don't really need gimmicky action combat systems. Aren't there enough crappy sandbox games out there anyway? I thought they made darkfall for you people already.
I'm loving it because there is a lot to do that is engaging and immersive in a huge virtual world, interacting with a ton of other people (every time I play, the areas are packed), and enjoying the aesthetics of the cities and the world itself. That's all I need to enjoy an MMO, and other MMOs are not doing that for me right now.
My favorite things so far are:
The writing and story here is better than most MMORPGs I've played
How they designed the crafting, gathering, and fishing to be their own classes with their own mechanics and achievement logs
The character creator and character design
The quality of the music
The overall atmosphere is very relaxing to me, but not in a 'puts me to sleep' kind of way. It's more of just a 'I like being in this world' kind of way
I'm not a big Final Fantasy fan, but it certainly adds to the familiarity and immersion that I've played the series. I can't speak for everyone else, but I'm sure some of the people 'clamoring over this' share the above impressions.
Simple, because we are fans of final fantasy and apparently you are not.
SE created this mmo for fans of the title, not for pleasing everyone.
If the game isn't for you ( which I couldn't understand how you would know since you couldn't be that high of a level) and you really aren't a fan of the title, just move on bro. We have no hard feelings.
Best of luck to you on your search for the mmo for you
I know what ya mean, there isnt much out there to get an Idea, and I felt the same way. Really, why I thought I would hate it... from the pictures, I hated the art style, I thought the global cooldown was way to long, hated the lack of pvp, Didnt know anything about the crafting, Didnt see a class I thought i'd enjoy.
But. Once I got ingame,( Went with the pugilist) and I dont know... the Art seemed diffrent ingame that out of game, think of Tera, Art style wise. The Crafting... It Reminds me of SWG because you actual switch to the classes! The Crafters them selves are classes, so, I went with goldsmith, I can switch my weapon to a pickaxe, and I became a lvl 1 Goldsmith, and as you lvl that you get skills that you use WHILE crafting, and its just SO INVOLVED and I love it!
Now, Combat, it has that Good ol' Trinity feel, except if your group needs a tank, someone can whip out a sword n board, and suddenly their the tank!( if they lvled it). The Global cool down isnt bad at all It works really well actually, Combat is really smooth, and Quite Enjoyable, Using chain skills and such. When a Mob is doing an AOE, a Red circle( or cone) appears, not unlike wildstar or Guild wars.
All in all....This game blew my expectations away. I had no reason to think i would enjoy the game at all, but Honestly... I havnt been excited for a game like this in a Very long time, and Im so happy I bought it.
Wow just based on this I might give the game a shot then. For the last 5 years I've only been playing non-themepark MMOs (like Darkfall Online, Mortal Online, Firefall, etc.) but I'd be down to give one a shot if it is really this fun. I just don't tend to like theme park games because it seems like WoW with another skin on top....and I didn't like WoW ever...even 10 years ago. But if this is "theme park done right" as people seem to be claiming...I think I up for giving it a shot.
Not exactly sure what the point of your post is. I'm not talking about the graphics. I'm talking about the tab target combat, ! over head questing, skill bars and icons to choose your abilities...it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years.
How can you say i didn't address your post in my first reply, than come here and tout the exact same logic that i addressed?
Let me try again quoting your words... "it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+years."
If that's not insinuating that "the same themepark stuff" is somehow a bad thing or not what your looking for in a game, I don't know what is.
You keep complaining about core mechanics being in this game that have been around for decades yet at the same time are asking what people like about the game? You've answered your own question my good sir. They like this "same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years" done correctly.
How's that for garbage?
Your half completed associates degree in psychology is showing.
Originally posted by JthX Simple, because we are fans of final fantasy and apparently you are not. SE created this mmo for fans of the title, not for pleasing everyone. If the game isn't for you ( which I couldn't understand how you would know since you couldn't be that high of a level) and you really aren't a fan of the title, just move on bro. We have no hard feelings. Best of luck to you on your search for the mmo for you
Dont know if I agree. While it is a final fantasy MMO, I myself have never touched a final fantasy game. My guild has, and they love that about it. but I dont know a thing about the game, and Yet, It's probably the best mmo i have played in quite a while.
Not exactly sure what the point of your post is. I'm not talking about the graphics. I'm talking about the tab target combat, ! over head questing, skill bars and icons to choose your abilities...it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years.
"and the game looks like WoW." Sounded like you were talking about the graphics. I agree with the overhead questing though. But it seems to be the standard now so I try and overlook it in favor of other features. I do like tab targeting and icons for my abilities. I'm an eq1 player so I don't really need gimmicky action combat systems. Aren't there enough crappy sandbox games out there anyway? I thought they made darkfall for you people already.
I played Darkfall from the first day of beta until the day the servers closed. Unfortunately Darkfall no longer exists.
Originally posted by JthX Simple, because we are fans of final fantasy and apparently you are not. SE created this mmo for fans of the title, not for pleasing everyone. If the game isn't for you ( which I couldn't understand how you would know since you couldn't be that high of a level) and you really aren't a fan of the title, just move on bro. We have no hard feelings. Best of luck to you on your search for the mmo for you
I've never played a FF game. I haven't played this game. I'm asking for people to discuss why they like or are hyped about the game...so I can see what all the fuss is about.
I like how kids nowadays think asking questions about a game means that you despise it. Lol.
I can play it with native gamepad support. Why is this important? Because that's where MMORPGs are going. GW2, Wildstar, EQ: Next, etc. They're all going that direction so I bought an Afterglow Xbox 360 gamepad and I've been experiencing PC gaming from a whole different angle.
Pinnacle Game Profiler with Commander Keen, Age of Conan, HeXen, whatever I can get my hands on that doesn't have native gamepad support.
Point is, I've been noticing a lot of games don't have native gamepad support. This MMORPG does. It gets a +1 from me.
Next point. It's as if Nintendo made an MMORPG and then said "Yes, we are proud to announce that we made an MMORPG that has the high level quality of all of our other games." Hint: This means you literally feel safe about everything you are doing. Except for all the server downtime of course. Why?/How? Because they delayed the game for two years to polish it. That's what.
No forced PvP. Unless you want pvp, you won't have to worry about having your blood pressure raised and accidentally spending five hours hunting down someone you hate in bloody murder.
Multiclassing.
The night sky actually looks like one. No joke. The daytime skies aren't bad either. Thunder and lightning with real lighting effects. By the way, the lighting effects are amazing, too. The game world is colorful and bright. The music is amazing.
Monster variety. Everywhere you go there's always a new one. They also have their own ways to fight. Slugs do ground PBAoEs for one.
Crafting and Gathering are actual classes that you collect gear for and go out and literally battle like any other battle class. This is why gathering and crafting are better than anything ever come before it.
Chocobos are like FLight Paths from WoW only on the ground. That means they are closer to Horse Tickets in Dark Age of Camelot. They actually feel right, and you can hop off before you get to their destination just like in DAoC.
Pretty much everything that exists in other MMORPGs also exists in this game, at least it appears this way for now.
It's an MMORPG that doesn't bring that much new to the table. It's still literally boring it's way through the MMORPG layers. However, it does so with the a high level of quality that literally blows everything away and we're left with something that is truly bigger and better and will kill, WoW.
tldr; They made a game that's bigger and better than WoW, it will kill WoW, but their servers are imploding because they didn't realize this.
Edit: Oh yea, forgot this one: They actually solved the whole go kill 50 of these things quest trope. You actually just do one or two quests. You don't grab 20 quests from the local quest hub and try to be an efficiency mastermind to figure out the fastest way to do em all.
Not exactly sure what the point of your post is. I'm not talking about the graphics. I'm talking about the tab target combat, ! over head questing, skill bars and icons to choose your abilities...it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years.
Well, I think exactly like you.
I played Beta 1 and 2, and quite frankly it felt like WoW with Final Fantasy graphics.
Anyway, don't get too upset about the lack of understanding of why people like this game.
The game is new, graphics awesome and it is FF, it is enough to keep the hype and the enthusiasm up for a couple of months.
These are the same people who were raving about WAR, SWTOR, TSW, GW2 and so on.
This is the new toy until something else will come out (ESO anyone?)
The only people who will keep playing this game will be FF fans................... and I am happy for them because it is a good FF game.
Not exactly sure what the point of your post is. I'm not talking about the graphics. I'm talking about the tab target combat, ! over head questing, skill bars and icons to choose your abilities...it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years.
Well, I think exactly like you.
I played Beta 1 and 2, and quite frankly it felt like WoW with Final Fantasy graphics.
Anyway, don't get too upset about the lack of understanding of why people like this game.
The game is new, graphics awesome and it is FF, it is enough to keep the hype and the enthusiasm up for a couple of months.
These are the same people who were raving about WAR, SWTOR, TSW, GW2 and so on.
This is the new toy until something else will come out (ESO anyone?)
The only people who will keep playing this game will be FF fans................... and I am happy for them because it is a good FF game.
Just a poor MMO for everyone else.
Thanks for the input. From this thread I decided to give the game a shot so I bought it. Unfortunately, I was charged for the game but didn't receive any game code and I can't log in to my account or download the game. Hopefully that gets fixed in the next few days or I'll just get a refund and move along.
Not exactly sure what the point of your post is. I'm not talking about the graphics. I'm talking about the tab target combat, ! over head questing, skill bars and icons to choose your abilities...it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years.
"and the game looks like WoW." Sounded like you were talking about the graphics. I agree with the overhead questing though. But it seems to be the standard now so I try and overlook it in favor of other features. I do like tab targeting and icons for my abilities. I'm an eq1 player so I don't really need gimmicky action combat systems. Aren't there enough crappy sandbox games out there anyway? I thought they made darkfall for you people already.
I played Darkfall from the first day of beta until the day the servers closed. Unfortunately Darkfall no longer exists.
Not exactly sure what the point of your post is. I'm not talking about the graphics. I'm talking about the tab target combat, ! over head questing, skill bars and icons to choose your abilities...it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years.
"and the game looks like WoW." Sounded like you were talking about the graphics. I agree with the overhead questing though. But it seems to be the standard now so I try and overlook it in favor of other features. I do like tab targeting and icons for my abilities. I'm an eq1 player so I don't really need gimmicky action combat systems. Aren't there enough crappy sandbox games out there anyway? I thought they made darkfall for you people already.
I played Darkfall from the first day of beta until the day the servers closed. Unfortunately Darkfall no longer exists.
Darkfall Unholy Wars exists.
Darkfall Unholy Wars isn't Darkfall. It's a huge piece of crap in general, especially compared to the old game.
Not exactly sure what the point of your post is. I'm not talking about the graphics. I'm talking about the tab target combat, ! over head questing, skill bars and icons to choose your abilities...it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years.
Well, I think exactly like you.
I played Beta 1 and 2, and quite frankly it felt like WoW with Final Fantasy graphics.
Anyway, don't get too upset about the lack of understanding of why people like this game.
The game is new, graphics awesome and it is FF, it is enough to keep the hype and the enthusiasm up for a couple of months.
These are the same people who were raving about WAR, SWTOR, TSW, GW2 and so on.
This is the new toy until something else will come out (ESO anyone?)
The only people who will keep playing this game will be FF fans................... and I am happy for them because it is a good FF game.
Just a poor MMO for everyone else.
Thanks for the input. From this thread I decided to give the game a shot so I bought it. Unfortunately, I was charged for the game but didn't receive any game code and I can't log in to my account or download the game. Hopefully that gets fixed in the next few days or I'll just get a refund and move along.
If you're in a hurry I can see if the old beta dl link works so you can pre-load the game ahead of time.
And no, I never raved about WAR, SWTOR, TSW, GW2, and so on. I have never once claimed anything was a WoW killer till now. If anything, this is MY WoW killer.
Edit:
SE's official word on the beta client - "If you participated in the Final Beta test of FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn you will not need to download the software again."
Not exactly sure what the point of your post is. I'm not talking about the graphics. I'm talking about the tab target combat, ! over head questing, skill bars and icons to choose your abilities...it's all the same themepark stuff we've seen for 10+ years.
Well, I think exactly like you.
I played Beta 1 and 2, and quite frankly it felt like WoW with Final Fantasy graphics.
Anyway, don't get too upset about the lack of understanding of why people like this game.
The game is new, graphics awesome and it is FF, it is enough to keep the hype and the enthusiasm up for a couple of months.
These are the same people who were raving about WAR, SWTOR, TSW, GW2 and so on.
This is the new toy until something else will come out (ESO anyone?)
The only people who will keep playing this game will be FF fans................... and I am happy for them because it is a good FF game.
Just a poor MMO for everyone else.
Thanks for the input. From this thread I decided to give the game a shot so I bought it. Unfortunately, I was charged for the game but didn't receive any game code and I can't log in to my account or download the game. Hopefully that gets fixed in the next few days or I'll just get a refund and move along.
If you're in a hurry I can see if the old beta dl link works so you can pre-load the game ahead of time.
And no, I never raved about WAR, SWTOR, TSW, GW2, and so on. I have never once claimed anything was a WoW killer till now. If anything, this is MY WoW killer.
Thanks for the help. I'll just wait for an official email or link though. Don't wanna DL an old version or something and then have to redo it.
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awesome thanks for the post...I'll check that out.
"and the game looks like WoW." Sounded like you were talking about the graphics. I agree with the overhead questing though. But it seems to be the standard now so I try and overlook it in favor of other features. I do like tab targeting and icons for my abilities. I'm an eq1 player so I don't really need gimmicky action combat systems. Aren't there enough crappy sandbox games out there anyway? I thought they made darkfall for you people already.
I'm loving it because there is a lot to do that is engaging and immersive in a huge virtual world, interacting with a ton of other people (every time I play, the areas are packed), and enjoying the aesthetics of the cities and the world itself. That's all I need to enjoy an MMO, and other MMOs are not doing that for me right now.
My favorite things so far are:
SE created this mmo for fans of the title, not for pleasing everyone.
If the game isn't for you ( which I couldn't understand how you would know since you couldn't be that high of a level) and you really aren't a fan of the title, just move on bro. We have no hard feelings.
Best of luck to you on your search for the mmo for you
Wow just based on this I might give the game a shot then. For the last 5 years I've only been playing non-themepark MMOs (like Darkfall Online, Mortal Online, Firefall, etc.) but I'd be down to give one a shot if it is really this fun. I just don't tend to like theme park games because it seems like WoW with another skin on top....and I didn't like WoW ever...even 10 years ago. But if this is "theme park done right" as people seem to be claiming...I think I up for giving it a shot.
Your half completed associates degree in psychology is showing.
Dont know if I agree. While it is a final fantasy MMO, I myself have never touched a final fantasy game. My guild has, and they love that about it. but I dont know a thing about the game, and Yet, It's probably the best mmo i have played in quite a while.
I played Darkfall from the first day of beta until the day the servers closed. Unfortunately Darkfall no longer exists.
If you can make a character that looks almost just like ziggy stardust...
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/8500000/Ziggy-Stardust-ziggy-stardust-8526912-309-462.jpg
how can you NOT want to play?
Also, I really love the class system.
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I've never played a FF game. I haven't played this game. I'm asking for people to discuss why they like or are hyped about the game...so I can see what all the fuss is about.
I like how kids nowadays think asking questions about a game means that you despise it. Lol.
I can play it with native gamepad support. Why is this important? Because that's where MMORPGs are going. GW2, Wildstar, EQ: Next, etc. They're all going that direction so I bought an Afterglow Xbox 360 gamepad and I've been experiencing PC gaming from a whole different angle.
Pinnacle Game Profiler with Commander Keen, Age of Conan, HeXen, whatever I can get my hands on that doesn't have native gamepad support.
Point is, I've been noticing a lot of games don't have native gamepad support. This MMORPG does. It gets a +1 from me.
Next point. It's as if Nintendo made an MMORPG and then said "Yes, we are proud to announce that we made an MMORPG that has the high level quality of all of our other games." Hint: This means you literally feel safe about everything you are doing. Except for all the server downtime of course. Why?/How? Because they delayed the game for two years to polish it. That's what.
No forced PvP. Unless you want pvp, you won't have to worry about having your blood pressure raised and accidentally spending five hours hunting down someone you hate in bloody murder.
Multiclassing.
The night sky actually looks like one. No joke. The daytime skies aren't bad either. Thunder and lightning with real lighting effects. By the way, the lighting effects are amazing, too. The game world is colorful and bright. The music is amazing.
Monster variety. Everywhere you go there's always a new one. They also have their own ways to fight. Slugs do ground PBAoEs for one.
Crafting and Gathering are actual classes that you collect gear for and go out and literally battle like any other battle class. This is why gathering and crafting are better than anything ever come before it.
Chocobos are like FLight Paths from WoW only on the ground. That means they are closer to Horse Tickets in Dark Age of Camelot. They actually feel right, and you can hop off before you get to their destination just like in DAoC.
Pretty much everything that exists in other MMORPGs also exists in this game, at least it appears this way for now.
It's an MMORPG that doesn't bring that much new to the table. It's still literally boring it's way through the MMORPG layers. However, it does so with the a high level of quality that literally blows everything away and we're left with something that is truly bigger and better and will kill, WoW.
tldr; They made a game that's bigger and better than WoW, it will kill WoW, but their servers are imploding because they didn't realize this.
Edit: Oh yea, forgot this one: They actually solved the whole go kill 50 of these things quest trope. You actually just do one or two quests. You don't grab 20 quests from the local quest hub and try to be an efficiency mastermind to figure out the fastest way to do em all.
I hope you're joking. lol
Of course I was. HAHAHA. HaA.. hah....
I meant square enix, not sony.
I've heard this before somewhere.
Well, I think exactly like you.
I played Beta 1 and 2, and quite frankly it felt like WoW with Final Fantasy graphics.
Anyway, don't get too upset about the lack of understanding of why people like this game.
The game is new, graphics awesome and it is FF, it is enough to keep the hype and the enthusiasm up for a couple of months.
These are the same people who were raving about WAR, SWTOR, TSW, GW2 and so on.
This is the new toy until something else will come out (ESO anyone?)
The only people who will keep playing this game will be FF fans................... and I am happy for them because it is a good FF game.
Just a poor MMO for everyone else.
Thanks for the input. From this thread I decided to give the game a shot so I bought it. Unfortunately, I was charged for the game but didn't receive any game code and I can't log in to my account or download the game. Hopefully that gets fixed in the next few days or I'll just get a refund and move along.
Darkfall Unholy Wars exists.
Darkfall Unholy Wars isn't Darkfall. It's a huge piece of crap in general, especially compared to the old game.
If you're in a hurry I can see if the old beta dl link works so you can pre-load the game ahead of time.
Download Link
http://gdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/inst/ffxivsetup.exe
And no, I never raved about WAR, SWTOR, TSW, GW2, and so on. I have never once claimed anything was a WoW killer till now. If anything, this is MY WoW killer.
Edit:
SE's official word on the beta client - "If you participated in the Final Beta test of FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn you will not need to download the software again."
Thanks for the help. I'll just wait for an official email or link though. Don't wanna DL an old version or something and then have to redo it.
Oh, yeh. Official word from my redeemed pre-order email:
"If you participated in the Final Beta test of FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn you will not need to download the software again."