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There Should Be A Petition For A True Open World Experience And Non-Restricted Open World PVP
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While I would prefer the type of game you would, for the health of ESO, I am glad they are doing it the way they are.
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I feel reasonably certain that what they want to do is make a game that their customers like, rather than a game that a small number of people would be willing to pay for.
That way they can make more games, feed their families and in general feel good about themselves.
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Thats exactly what OP is asking and he is wondering why they are not making such game,pretty sure you noticed that.
So, did ESO have a successful launch? Yes, yes it did.By Ryan Getchell on April 02, 2014.
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like the game and therefore play it, or don't. LOL@ petitions to pressure game companies to make games just for them.
blizzard ruined everything when they started caving to whiners who whined the loudest and now it has spread to the overall mmo player base as a whole.
that said, cyrodiil should very much feel like an open world pvp area because of its sheer size and the pvp as well as pve content it has.
It's okay buddy. Plenty of other games for you to play. The grownups get one as well. It's our turn, okay?
1. The Secret World: factions pve together in every pve zone...and pvp each other in a specific zone.
2. World of Warcraft...do I really need to explain?
3. Age of Conan: No factions. Just one gang banger group vs another. Race doesn't matter. Red = dead.
4. Rift: Mercenary system. Again, race doesn't matter.
5. GW2: Again, race doesn't matter. Guild v guild gang bangery. Nothing epic here.
Firstly:
There's Elder Scrolls Online. Three distinctly different realms. The next generation of mmo will have the most reality mixed in in order to make it immersive. This is something terribly lacking in the industry. So, for example, if it were the late Middle-Ages and you spoke French in England, you'd be executed. If you spoke English in France...
So you can't cross group at all. And no, pvp actually matters here, so you can't just rape Bob the builder when he comes home from work while you sat in your mum's basement all day grinding.
Unless you've played Dark Age of Camelot, this won't even make sense to you.
Secondly:
It's not nice to call Matt Firor's team idiots. He invented Realm vs Realm vs Realm. What have you done?
Have a nice day, sir.
they had a discussion with paul sage on elders scrolls off the record,
their must be artifitial barriers in the game that's just how mmo games work.
you are getting a game that is as big as 3 or 4 skyrims what more do you want
exept no sub. fee.
well op quit whining n go play eve there yull get free unrestricted pvp
or make yur own mmo w free unrestricted pvp (think about the advantages yu get then w god mode fer yerself n no1 else)
Then maybe you and I have a different understanding of what OW PvP. I thought OW meant all areas PvP all the time.
Flagging system would have been ok imo but fore me personally most problems with ESO are related to Daoc devs who just cannot think out of Daoc box. Daoc had 3 factions so ESO must have 3 factions. Pity really but nothing to do. I'll play it anyway but imo it would have been better game without Daoc devs.
Even Worse it could have WOW, Lineage or EVE numbers. The game model they are following will never match the population potential of OW Were not talking about full loot Darkfall style, but the winning model is open world factions not closed, restricted RVR.
Then maybe you and I have a different understanding of what OW PvP. I thought OW meant all areas PvP all the time.
yeah, OWPVP doesn't necessarily mean you can pvp anywhere, it means there is pvp in the open world and not just instanced.
Most if not all areas in WOW you could or had the potential to go pvp there so the world was in effect open world at least on the pvp servers. EVE pvp is not hard on new players because much like WOW its policed by a ton of NPC guards in high security zones. This is what makes them different from games like Darkfall where its open world full loot and burn your house down while they do disturbing things with your corpse.
My problem with games like DAOC and GW2 is that that style of RVR devalues toons. PVP is unimportant because its just one big zerg warzone that has no impact and removes the thrill of world pvp. PVE is pointless because you dont need anything other than the story other than that you can just auto max level in the warzone. You end up like GW2 with a bunch of bored players detached from their toons or in denial waiting for the next monthly, meaningless pve event to get some more skins.
I find it amazing that anyone would hold-up the WOW PVP system as an example of something good.
... the max level stealther who would kill all the auctioneers at the AH, restealth, hide and repeat when they re-spawned...
... the ones who would kill all the quest NPCs in lowbee areas...
... the ones that would camp a quest hub and kill everyone 40 or 50 levels below them...
Yeah... now that's manly PVP fun lol
And this bit... "...a bunch of bored players detached from their toons or in denial waiting for the..." scenario or dungeon to pop? hilarious
Tell it to someone who didn't play in a WOW PVP server... they might think you have a point...
Oh... and "zerg" is just code for "I like 15 minute scenarios and don't have a clue how to have fun in a 2-hour relic keep raid."
Do you think that it might be possible that these people who are developing these games have played as many or more MMOs than you, saw OWPVP for the pathetic gank-the-lowbee bore that it is and are designing something better?
...just a thought...
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Its not just WOW its EVE,. L1, L2 the only thing that comes close are pure sandboxes like Second Life or Minecraft.
Zerg is also code for the combat is terrible and boy I am sure tired of hitting this wall or this getting boring after doing it 5000 times a week to justify this games existence. It also might be possible you are hyper sensitive and are projecting your fears of being "Ganked".
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Thats pretty much what todays MMOs are all about. Like going to church where everybody sings Hallelujah while holding each others hands.
Conan is turning over in his grave 500 rounds per minute while this madness continues.
So, did ESO have a successful launch? Yes, yes it did.By Ryan Getchell on April 02, 2014.
**On the radar: http://www.cyberpunk.net/ **
Really, what do you call this:
And this:
Or, how about this:
Trash mobs.
I've been a pretty vocal advocate of an open world PvP server here and on the 2 official forums but I would never deem to mandate how other people play the game.
IMO more choices are always better, and a "one size fits most" attitude doesn't really work when it comes to PvP.
In short, let us pick which server type we want to play on.
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Thats exactly what OP is asking and he is wondering why they are not making such game,pretty sure you noticed that.
He's in the smaller group, not the larger group.
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Ahhaa that makes sense,so this is a WoW killer and if its not then you were wrong and smaller group was actually right.
So, did ESO have a successful launch? Yes, yes it did.By Ryan Getchell on April 02, 2014.
**On the radar: http://www.cyberpunk.net/ **
They're psychotic?
I personally can't fathom the mindset of I want to kill, kill, kill everyone, grief, grief, loot their bodies, camp their graveyards, misery, hate, etc. Go play GTA5 or something...
It wouldn't bother me if this type of gameplay existed - as long as it was contained particular server(s) and easily avoidable by people who aren't deranged and future serial killers.
Premium MMORPGs do not feature built-in cheating via cash for gold pay 2 win. PLAY to win or don't play.
He's in the smaller group, not the larger group.
Ahhaa that makes sense,so this is a WoW killer and if its not then you were wrong and smaller group was actually right.
What does WoW have to do with anything?
Of the people who are playing ESO, the group that wants the whole PvP thing are the smaller group.
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