Blizzard is donating more than what most other corporations do via these pet/mount sales.
as i already posted - other mmos do this too
they just don't make news when they do it on mmorpg,com
I'd imagine they need better PR people then. Since it's not about the "pat on the back", but rather creating awareness of the charitable event, which will in turn get more people to come and spend (theoretically). There's a reason why major charities spend on advertising campaigns, to create awareness. Most folks don't seem to pay attention to anything unless it's slapping them right in the face.
the SOE G.i.r.l scholoship is *every* year -- including this year
i havent followed if Childs Play is every year
I also dont follow what other mmos are doing occasionally w marketplace charity
do you?
i know mmorpg.com doesnt cover it
Actually I have seen them cover charity promotions from EQ2, Rift, Perfect World games and various other companies. Blizzard just does it more often, and more people jump on the forums to complain about it when they do it.
Although I do remember a big fuss over a Perfect World or other F2P game promotion where they falsely said it would all go to charity and then only a small portion did.
Originally posted by Mattatron They should make an in-game quest series. Every character which completes the quest series gets a token reward and $3 or $5 is donated to Make-a-Wish.
Or they could just do what they are doing, which is mutually beneficial to themselves and the charity and you can go fundraise in your own way. What they do works, if it bothers you, don't buy the items and just donate your money where you want.
While a few people might buy the item for mutual benefit of getting a cool item and donating, most will just be buying it because they want the item and don't really care about the charity. At least the charity is making money from those people, rather than those who would normally donate.
Originally posted by Mattatron They should make an in-game quest series. Every character which completes the quest series gets a token reward and $3 or $5 is donated to Make-a-Wish.
Or they could just do what they are doing, which is mutually beneficial to themselves and the charity and you can go fundraise in your own way. What they do works, if it bothers you, don't buy the items and just donate your money where you want.
While a few people might buy the item for mutual benefit of getting a cool item and donating, most will just be buying it because they want the item and don't really care about the charity. At least the charity is making money from those people, rather than those who would normally donate.
Of course. "Charity" and "mutually beneficial" are like the 2 great tastes that taste great together, aren't they?
This issue is how people feel toward Blizzard. Should we go "bare bones" and just say, "well good for them, they're doing something"? No. I don't feel this is so innocent. They can bring attention to a cause without profiting.
^No seriously, that's lame dude. I think last time they did this it was all proceeds.
And if they really wanted to make a dent, they could make it all proceeds from all MOUNTS sold between such and such dates. Because those are the big money big draw items.
I defended them last time, but this is just so much less than they could have done.
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I'm pretty sure the money donated is from players pockets and not blizzard. Blizzard are just making a re-skinned mount. It's the people who are donating the money by buying it. Blizzard are making a profit off a charity for sick children which is totally unethical, but then so are all charities.
I'm not sure I want to buy this or not now :P. When I tried it never actually made the transaction (server issues I assume). And, not sure if I really want it or not now. Well who am I kidding. That pet and mount are awesome (and giving to charity is a plus).
MMORPG community at their finest - no good deed goes unpunished.
How many of the 1000's that will buy this pet will also willingly donate to charity - a tiny TINY percentage, so if anything blizzard are making YOU donate wether you like it or not, I see no issue with that and neither should any one else.
Originally posted by Mattatron They should make an in-game quest series. Every character which completes the quest series gets a token reward and $3 or $5 is donated to Make-a-Wish.
Or they could just do what they are doing, which is mutually beneficial to themselves and the charity and you can go fundraise in your own way. What they do works, if it bothers you, don't buy the items and just donate your money where you want.
While a few people might buy the item for mutual benefit of getting a cool item and donating, most will just be buying it because they want the item and don't really care about the charity. At least the charity is making money from those people, rather than those who would normally donate.
Of course. "Charity" and "mutually beneficial" are like the 2 great tastes that taste great together, aren't they?
This issue is how people feel toward Blizzard. Should we go "bare bones" and just say, "well good for them, they're doing something"? No. I don't feel this is so innocent. They can bring attention to a cause without profiting.
OK how about this. Next time you donate to charity, give your entire wage for a month or don't bother. That is basically what you are demanding of Blizzard.
Oh and don't bother fundraising for charities that you support. It should always be your own money that you donate or you shouldn't bother.
Originally posted by Mattatron They should make an in-game quest series. Every character which completes the quest series gets a token reward and $3 or $5 is donated to Make-a-Wish.
Or they could just do what they are doing, which is mutually beneficial to themselves and the charity and you can go fundraise in your own way. What they do works, if it bothers you, don't buy the items and just donate your money where you want.
While a few people might buy the item for mutual benefit of getting a cool item and donating, most will just be buying it because they want the item and don't really care about the charity. At least the charity is making money from those people, rather than those who would normally donate.
Of course. "Charity" and "mutually beneficial" are like the 2 great tastes that taste great together, aren't they?
This issue is how people feel toward Blizzard. Should we go "bare bones" and just say, "well good for them, they're doing something"? No. I don't feel this is so innocent. They can bring attention to a cause without profiting.
OK how about this. Next time you donate to charity, give your entire wage for a month or don't bother. That is basically what you are demanding of Blizzard.
Sounds stupid doesn't it?
Blizzard are not giving money to charity the players who buy the pets are. As if blizzard need to make money off this.
Blizzard are not giving money to charity the players who buy the pets are. As if blizzard need to make money off this.
Blizzard needs to make money off the assets they created, to support continued development of their game. They had no obligation whatsoever to donate anything, and players would have still purchased these items.
And since people would have purchased these items at these prices anyway, it definitely is Blizzard donating the profits of the items that they had created. Its not like they are just asking for money and then giving themselves half and the charity half, they are selling a product and giving away half their revenue.
Originally posted by Mattatron They should make an in-game quest series. Every character which completes the quest series gets a token reward and $3 or $5 is donated to Make-a-Wish.
Or they could just do what they are doing, which is mutually beneficial to themselves and the charity and you can go fundraise in your own way. What they do works, if it bothers you, don't buy the items and just donate your money where you want.
While a few people might buy the item for mutual benefit of getting a cool item and donating, most will just be buying it because they want the item and don't really care about the charity. At least the charity is making money from those people, rather than those who would normally donate.
Of course. "Charity" and "mutually beneficial" are like the 2 great tastes that taste great together, aren't they?
This issue is how people feel toward Blizzard. Should we go "bare bones" and just say, "well good for them, they're doing something"? No. I don't feel this is so innocent. They can bring attention to a cause without profiting.
OK how about this. Next time you donate to charity, give your entire wage for a month or don't bother. That is basically what you are demanding of Blizzard.
Sounds stupid doesn't it?
Blizzard are not giving money to charity the players who buy the pets are. As if blizzard need to make money off this.
It is a purchase from Blizzard, aka you give them money they give you items, the money is now blizzards, they give it to make-a-wish... I don't get why that is hard to understand.
MMORPG community at their finest - no good deed goes unpunished.
How many of the 1000's that will buy this pet will also willingly donate to charity - a tiny TINY percentage, so if anything blizzard are making YOU donate wether you like it or not, I see no issue with that and neither should any one else.
Except money for charities never goes to those kids who need it, it gets used up by administration costs to put out more emotional blackmail adverts to make you feel guilty.
Originally posted by Sajman01 Half the sales will go to make-a-wish? Why not all the sales?
Leave it to Blizzard to profit on the misfortune of others.
I can't say whether or not they will really "profit" but they did say they are also matching employee contributions so it's very possible that the "rest of the money" is going toward the matching program as well.
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Originally posted by nerovipus32 All sales should go to make a wish. I find it sick that blizzard are trying to make a profit off of a charity.
If you think the target audience for these items will dramatically change because they are donating to Make a Wish you are sorely mistaken. Blizzard would have sold these items to the same players regardless of their charity. So I really doubt they will be making any more profit by advertising that portion goes to charity.
Is it a corporate citizen stunt? Sure. Is it profiting off a charity? Unlikely.
Ripping on Blizzard is normal around here but that said, Blizzard knows giving some incentive will get people who normally would never bother with charity, to give something. they aren't trying to make money off sick people.
yeah they could just give their own money which for all we know they probably do and just don't say anything about it but they involve their player base into helping also. developing these items takes time and money so them recouping some of that cost is okay with me, there is nothing wrong with it.
But hey they should just not do anything at all amirite.
normal attitude from most people "omg blizzard makes billions they should just give all their monies away! i dont make millions so i'm not gonna give anything but i expect rich people to give all their money away!"
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas
MMORPG community at their finest - no good deed goes unpunished.
How many of the 1000's that will buy this pet will also willingly donate to charity - a tiny TINY percentage, so if anything blizzard are making YOU donate wether you like it or not, I see no issue with that and neither should any one else.
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I'd imagine they need better PR people then. Since it's not about the "pat on the back", but rather creating awareness of the charitable event, which will in turn get more people to come and spend (theoretically). There's a reason why major charities spend on advertising campaigns, to create awareness. Most folks don't seem to pay attention to anything unless it's slapping them right in the face.
He said more, not that other companies don't do it.
The sheer volume of sales WoW generates compared to other companies guarantees this.
the SOE G.i.r.l scholoship is *every* year -- including this year
i havent followed if Childs Play is every year
I also dont follow what other mmos are doing occasionally w marketplace charity
do you?
i know mmorpg.com doesnt cover it
EQ2 fan sites
Actually I have seen them cover charity promotions from EQ2, Rift, Perfect World games and various other companies. Blizzard just does it more often, and more people jump on the forums to complain about it when they do it.
Although I do remember a big fuss over a Perfect World or other F2P game promotion where they falsely said it would all go to charity and then only a small portion did.
Or they could just do what they are doing, which is mutually beneficial to themselves and the charity and you can go fundraise in your own way. What they do works, if it bothers you, don't buy the items and just donate your money where you want.
While a few people might buy the item for mutual benefit of getting a cool item and donating, most will just be buying it because they want the item and don't really care about the charity. At least the charity is making money from those people, rather than those who would normally donate.
i have never seen Childs play covered at mmorpg.com (but i could be wrong)
I have seen all of Blizzard's charities promoted here
just because its not promoted - does not mean its not happening
joystiq gives good coverage of themed holiday events
i think an overview of charitable giving across all mmos would be an interesting article (that hasn't been done yet)
regarding this current Blizzard promotion:
I said it was a good thing, I'm in disagreement w others who say its uncommon for mmos to do this
EQ2 fan sites
Of course. "Charity" and "mutually beneficial" are like the 2 great tastes that taste great together, aren't they?
This issue is how people feel toward Blizzard. Should we go "bare bones" and just say, "well good for them, they're doing something"? No. I don't feel this is so innocent. They can bring attention to a cause without profiting.
He isn't making a profit off a charity though is he.
I'm pretty sure the money donated is from players pockets and not blizzard. Blizzard are just making a re-skinned mount. It's the people who are donating the money by buying it. Blizzard are making a profit off a charity for sick children which is totally unethical, but then so are all charities.
MMORPG community at their finest - no good deed goes unpunished.
How many of the 1000's that will buy this pet will also willingly donate to charity - a tiny TINY percentage, so if anything blizzard are making YOU donate wether you like it or not, I see no issue with that and neither should any one else.
OK how about this. Next time you donate to charity, give your entire wage for a month or don't bother. That is basically what you are demanding of Blizzard.
Oh and don't bother fundraising for charities that you support. It should always be your own money that you donate or you shouldn't bother.
Sounds stupid doesn't it?
Blizzard are not giving money to charity the players who buy the pets are. As if blizzard need to make money off this.
Blizzard needs to make money off the assets they created, to support continued development of their game. They had no obligation whatsoever to donate anything, and players would have still purchased these items.
And since people would have purchased these items at these prices anyway, it definitely is Blizzard donating the profits of the items that they had created. Its not like they are just asking for money and then giving themselves half and the charity half, they are selling a product and giving away half their revenue.
It is a purchase from Blizzard, aka you give them money they give you items, the money is now blizzards, they give it to make-a-wish... I don't get why that is hard to understand.
Except money for charities never goes to those kids who need it, it gets used up by administration costs to put out more emotional blackmail adverts to make you feel guilty.
I can't say whether or not they will really "profit" but they did say they are also matching employee contributions so it's very possible that the "rest of the money" is going toward the matching program as well.
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If you think the target audience for these items will dramatically change because they are donating to Make a Wish you are sorely mistaken. Blizzard would have sold these items to the same players regardless of their charity. So I really doubt they will be making any more profit by advertising that portion goes to charity.
Is it a corporate citizen stunt? Sure. Is it profiting off a charity? Unlikely.
Ripping on Blizzard is normal around here but that said, Blizzard knows giving some incentive will get people who normally would never bother with charity, to give something. they aren't trying to make money off sick people.
yeah they could just give their own money which for all we know they probably do and just don't say anything about it but they involve their player base into helping also. developing these items takes time and money so them recouping some of that cost is okay with me, there is nothing wrong with it.
But hey they should just not do anything at all amirite.
normal attitude from most people "omg blizzard makes billions they should just give all their monies away! i dont make millions so i'm not gonna give anything but i expect rich people to give all their money away!"
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Everything looks bleak and miserable when you have your own little rain cloud I guess.