Would a pre-CU game make you happy?

anarchyart · January 2006

Just wanna see from the general population, how many people think the Pre-CU game is the best incarnation of SWG. This game would be Pre-CU and try to imagine it was well balanced as far as the buffs and everything, plus adding all the quest lines of the NGE because those are just dang fun. No voting on whether you would return or not, just if that was the best way the game would have made you happy, either then or now.

If it did make over 70% of us happy then I think it would be a good move for Sony. Keep in mind that the game would be balanced and bug free in either choice.

Elnator · January 2006

This is pretty much what every vet has said they wish SOE had done.

Evelknievel · January 2006

Anything Pre-Cu will suit just fine, however Publish 9 is the Pinnacle Point in SWG history and

this should be the restore point in my opinion.

Elnator · January 2006

Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS
Anything Pre-Cu will suit just fine, however Publish 9 is the Pinnacle Point in SWG history and
this should be the restore point in my opinion.

Publish 9
With reduced buffs
and balanced armor so it's not "everybody wears composite wars"
And some way to heal mind damage in combat... maybe give that to entertainer as a special 'stim' or something.

But yea, that would be a great place to roll back to. I suspect THAT code is long.... long.... long... gone however.

gunnythok · January 2006

I wonder if they'd consider removing content to support continuity? Like kassh and mustafar? jedi as a whole? I'd very much like a pre-CU, non kassh/mustafar/jedi server.

I gave up on this dream a long time ago. they're in it for your money, if you keep playing their unevolved games, they'll keep making them.

Mataa · January 2006

Sorry to admit that I joined after the famed pre-cu days. I loved the game as it was before the NGE so that would be just fine for me. I will say that if the Pre-CU was better and thast what I hear from most people than I would definitely come back to give that a shot. Last thing, a big YES on keeping Mustafar and Kash, there are a lot of quests there that are really enjoyable especially when you are with a group like the facility and factory on Mustafar.

scaramoosh · January 2006

pre cu and no Jedi

Jedi was the downfall tbh.

Shayde · January 2006

I'd be fine with Jedi pre-cu. I could take their asses then.

That, and I'd want the Saber TEF.

Chawncy · January 2006

I voted pre-cu in the poll, but it is a somewhat loaded poll. It assumes there could be balance pre-cu. I don't think there would ever be balance with the system that was in place. It would have gone on with the fotm - nerf cycle that plagued the game from the beginning.

free2play · January 2006

I asked for PreCU, no support, no EP's. JTL intro point, unsupported PreCU blank server. They ignored it.

Enigma · January 2006

pre-CU with a more NPC interactive quest system and a cap for Jedi with an automatic TEF if he is wearing Padawan robes and/or a lightsaber...

...to be honest, Id be fine without Jedi all together

Back in the 80's the star wars games didn't really let you be a Jedi. If you got to play a Jedi it was always as Luke Skywalker.

It wasn't until the Dark Forces FPS series when Lucas Arts when plum darn crazy with Jedi this and Jedi that. Now, the only way a Star Wars game is successful is by having Jedi players whether it be flight simulation, Twitch base player vs player, FPS, etc

Bah

..........humbug?

SofaKing2000 · January 2006

Originally posted by Shayde

I'd be fine with Jedi pre-cu. I could take their asses then.
That, and I'd want the Saber TEF.

F'in A man... I miss Saber TEF

I went Knight just so I could be Overt all the time.

Tons O fun....

To answer the OP's question.. Yes, that would make me happy.

SofaKing2000 · January 2006

Back in the 80's the star wars games didn't really let you be a Jedi. If you got to play a Jedi it was always as Luke Skywalker.

If U remember bro, the games in the 80's sucked... Except for Zelda, that was kewl

haxxjoo · January 2006

ROTFLMAO!

Someone give the nge a pity vote.

Chastity · January 2006

It's too late to do anything like a rollback, I think. And even if they did, it wouldn't fix the problem with the game, which is how the developers make and implement decisions, with no input from the player base at all.

I really enjoyed the pre-CU game for a year or so, but was getting dissatisfied with it long before the CU hit, because they would do next to nothing to support any of the classes I was interested in playing. Tailors wanted new clothing patterns and worked with the patience of saints through the correspondent system to get additional content. We wanted to be able to expand our line of clothes appealing to entertainers, to have the completely irrational palette system reformed (we're living in an age of interstellar travel, but we can't make red boots), to get some colors that weren't in the game into it (a true yellow, for example). The devs never even acknowledged our concerns. I mean, never--top ten concerns list regularly and faithfully updated and posted with pathetic faith in SOE's good offices, and we never even had a paid flunky come on and say anything about them. We were just flat ass ignored. Entertainers were begging for years for something to be done about AFK buffing, which destroyed those professions and the social life of the cantinas almost completely. The devs, there at least, did admit we had a point, but never lifted a finger to fix the problem, in spite of repeatedly saying they would do something about it.

So it's not so much a question of which game, it's a question of which devs/managers. If SOE and the members of LA responsible for SWG would throw themselves as a body off the roof of the nearest sky scraper, and the two companies would hire some people who listen to their playerbase and know how to set development priorities, I might come back and play SWG, in whatever form it's in. But until that happened, even a rollback to a game I loved wouldn't be enough, because the same cage full of monkeys would still be running the show.

--Chastity Nightdancer

zoey121 · January 2006

The problem i have with this is the fact that every where you went then there were afk grinders camping caves, shoot they were even camping cnet newbe areas

if there was a way to do it that everything wasn't afk attended i could be interested

i didn't like everything pre cu from the healing lines to doc buffs

i do not think there will be a roll back but i could see them turning several servers into cu servers

i could be very happy with that

woges · January 2006

Never going back to this game and never going back to a SoE game.

RangerSWG · January 2006

Originally posted by Chastity
It's too late to do anything like a rollback, I think. And even if they did, it wouldn't fix the problem with the game, which is how the developers make and implement decisions, with no input from the player base at all.
I really enjoyed the pre-CU game for a year or so, but was getting dissatisfied with it long before the CU hit, because they would do next to nothing to support any of the classes I was interested in playing. Tailors wanted new clothing patterns and worked with the patience of saints through the correspondent system to get additional content. We wanted to be able to expand our line of clothes appealing to entertainers, to have the completely irrational palette system reformed (we're living in an age of interstellar travel, but we can't make red boots), to get some colors that weren't in the game into it (a true yellow, for example). The devs never even acknowledged our concerns. I mean, never--top ten concerns list regularly and faithfully updated and posted with pathetic faith in SOE's good offices, and we never even had a paid flunky come on and say anything about them. We were just flat ass ignored. Entertainers were begging for years for something to be done about AFK buffing, which destroyed those professions and the social life of the cantinas almost completely. The devs, there at least, did admit we had a point, but never lifted a finger to fix the problem, in spite of repeatedly saying they would do something about it.
So it's not so much a question of which game, it's a question of which devs/managers. If SOE and the members of LA responsible for SWG would throw themselves as a body off the roof of the nearest sky scraper, and the two companies would hire some people who listen to their playerbase and know how to set development priorities, I might come back and play SWG, in whatever form it's in. But until that happened, even a rollback to a game I loved wouldn't be enough, because the same cage full of monkeys would still be running the show.
--Chastity Nightdancer

QFE!

You need to add a 'post or preCU, I don't give a carp, nerf the devs instead' option.

PreCU had as many problems and the current dev strategy of 'if it don't work, delete it' wouldn't make that any better.

Nor would their fetish for starting things and never quite implementing them in a completed state. They're taking the idea that MMO's are, in their nature, a work in progress to be an excuse for pushing stuff out that has game breaking bugs, unfinished story lines and missing content. Saying that 'well address that in a later publish' only works for so long, eventually it turns into yet more promises of jam tomorrow.

Ra've · January 2006

I voted pre CU with the added content. I would also like to see GOD MODE NPC's such as Vader Bobba Fett and other hench men hunt down and kill any visible jedi. That IMO is the only way they can keep the current story line open. Jedi should never have been seen in the middle of Coronet dueling.

anarchyart · January 2006

Originally posted by Ra've

I would also like to see GOD MODE NPC's such as Vader Bobba Fett and other hench men hunt down and kill any visible jedi.

That would be perfect and is such a great idea, or else god mode Stormtroppers/Rebel guards with instal kill.

Well my poll actually suprised me. I figured that it couldn't mainting over 70% of people being happy with the pre-CU game, even assuming it was well balanced or even could be so. I'm glad to see that it's well over 70% happy with pre-CU with added content and some sort of gift from god type balancing.

While I did have lots of fun in combat with the NGE, I think the most fun part of it was the questing and the n00by station and space flight parts, which they could have added without gutting the entire game. However, Jedi TEF would be an absolute necessity to keep the game fair in my opinion.

Faxxer · January 2006

To Date,

Smedley's only response when asked about old code base was

"What if someone found an exploit."

and my thought was...so what.

I have quit now almost 2 months...and I choose to remain here to make sure that SOE never gets a positive light without some negative.

Faxx

haxxjoo · January 2006

The code set before the first CU was hashed through, debugged and tested quiet a bit. The chances that a major exploit would come out in that game at this juncture is pretty rare. Even if it did, the skelaton dev on the server should be able to address it.

SoE doesn't want to be imbarassed further when the orginal pre-cu version is more popular then its pathetic nge version.

Why not take those offline japenese servers have them shipped to the us and run a pre-cu version of the game on those boxes? That would solve the login server/existing servers issue.

SonOfAGhost · January 2006

There are several exploits still in the game post NGE that have been there since launch. Just one the ones I know of could easily be the source of every credit sold on Ebay.

chlaos · January 2006

AA, it would be a hell of a start......

Ryker · January 2006

Pre-CU would be cool, they could just make jedi a normal class like swordsman, fix the doctors buff and nerf armor and may make armor class specific like post cu. I just tried this new nge and all I can think is they are trying to make everyone quit so they can scrap it, they cant be that dumb to think people would like it after they deleted all the good classes like TKA .

Slickinfinit · January 2006

pre-cu was my glory days in SWG walkin around with a 1k power hammer, 610 mind poison lance , 285 mind fire lance and uber moded armor. Loved my mixed profession NON-level temp: master swrodsman/doc 4030/pikeman 2004, I could kill anybody on my server 1 vs 1 (Naritus) and Taxyou my toon was well respected as a PvP warior. If they brought pre-cu and nerfed my dots I would still love it because the 1k acklay hammer did fine as well and with no dots dropin doc for old school Terras kasi would own as well. I am prolly just dreaming though SOE is to arrogant to give us vets what we want.

/waves farwell to the pre-cu times forever

/sad

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