During the Beta week end I had fun !! yeah great fun !
I enjoyed exploring, looking for chest, finding npc for new quest, looking at my screen and the beautoifull color, landscape etc.
Just got a new PC after 4 years.. so I could have all settings at max and I enjoyed it and ESO is providing eveything I was expecting.
I voted exceeded because I posted a comment on regarding the inventory and bank default space... I did not see a big issue with it except that depening on the crafting skill you choose... you may fill it really fast.
Guess what, I've read that in the last patch they increased the initial personal and bank space
Great behavior, they listen to the community and so far I think they reacted pretty fast !! keep in mind that the game will be released in 3 weeks (for those who bought the right pack).. so this shows imho how the Dev team is willing to provide us a nice and pleasant game.
I came into the game expecting it to be a terrible WoW clone.
I left the game indifferent about a GW2/DAoC-like game, because I'm simply burnt out in that genre.
The game did leave me pleasantly surprised at times past the starter area with the nifty, hidden content that is somewhat ESO-like, however, the boring, clunky, soft-tab-target combat made me get bored in a matter of a day.
While the character building is decent, especially in terms of crafting, the actual actions involved progression, i.e. combat/crafting itself, is kind of crappy in my opinion.
So.... summarized:
Expected bad combat, got bad combat.
Expected severely restrictive environ, got slightly better after the initial phase.
Now that the NDA is terminated (for the most part), how has the game met/missed/exceeded your expectations?
Slightly exceed, I love the combat, character building and the exploration. I don't find questing boring. I don't have an issue with combat, it's better than skyrim, and skyrim is the best selling RPG in the history AFAIK. What else do I expect? A combat system very different from skyrim and other TES games?
I have an issue with animation, glitches and collision detection. But I don't play MMORPG for perfect animation and collision detection, I can tolerate it. It does annoy me a bit that an expensive AAA title feels this cheap.
Originally posted by Eol- Strongly exceeded my expectations. The best aspects are: Graphics are outstanding Artwork really feels like ES Does a very good job of compromising between UI and gameplay aspects of ES RPG and MMOs, which is not easy to do AvA endgame looks outstanding, so much better than the WoW/Rift endgame of gear PvE instances and PvP arenas Great flexibility in character creation and skill choices Focus on gameplay rather than choosing among several quickbars worth of skills UI and gameplay focus makes the game much more immersive than I expected Very good story, maybe not as good as LotRO and SWToR, but quite good. Really looks like a good game that breaks the mold of current MMOs in several ways.
This game has surpassed every expectation I had for it. Finally no rooted action combat. Great story and graphics.
ESO for the win!!
Don't know what cave you have been hiding in but ESO isn't the first one to bring this to MMO genre.
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I'm not sure what I thought of it in the end. I wanted to love it. I love ES games, especially Skyrim, and I've played since Arena, and on that front it met my expectations as an ES game. It felt like Skyrim online, it looked like Skyrim. I enjoyed the crafting alot, I liked the animations and combat. I enjoyed the quest chains. For some reason though I just wasn't feeling it. The biggest problem for me was the closed in feel of the world. Like I was playing in tiny zones. The starter areas was closed in, far enough, and the second was too. I was playing a Nord so I expected that, but then the 3rd, Stonefalls, felt closed in as well. It was weird, when I zoomed out it looked like a big zone, but I couldn't access all of it, I was playing in a tiny corner. There were mountains all around and walls stopping me getting around, the landscape was pretty gray as well and not very negotiable. I felt like I was playing in a locked room and I had to do all the quests in that room before I could unlock the door to the next. I just got bored with that.The geography of the zones isn't good. So it disappointed me and is nothing like the go anywhere feel of Skyrim. I doubt I'll play.
Originally posted by Doogiehowser Originally posted by Allacore69 This game has surpassed every expectation I had for it. Finally no rooted action combat. Great story and graphics. ESO for the win!!
Don't know what cave you have been hiding in but ESO isn't the first one to bring this to MMO genre.
Let's see, Tera, DCUO, Neverwinter, etc.
All have rooted action combat.
Please name me some action games that have no rooted combat
Originally posted by Allacore69 This game has surpassed every expectation I had for it. Finally no rooted action combat. Great story and graphics. ESO for the win!!
Don't know what cave you have been hiding in but ESO isn't the first one to bring this to MMO genre.
Let's see, Tera, DCUO, Neverwinter, etc.
All have rooted action combat.
Please name me some action games that have no rooted combat
You know that combat in ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO right? if you want to compare ESO's combat then compare it to GW2. And GW2 already did the 'no rooted' combat thing.
I think in your excitement you are mixing up two style of combats here.
Strongly exceeded. The visuals and the voice acting are great, most importantly the game plays fluidly on my 4 year old system (was testing Wildstar just before and I got a slideshow in most areas)
As an old DaoC player the most important thing for me was that AvAvA brought the good old Merlin-Midgard feeling back, this of all the post DaoC games had me really most engaged.
Negatives...
still a few bug especially when grouping
Pre-order players able to join all Alliances (realm pride???)
Originally posted by Allacore69 This game has surpassed every expectation I had for it. Finally no rooted action combat. Great story and graphics. ESO for the win!!
Don't know what cave you have been hiding in but ESO isn't the first one to bring this to MMO genre.
Let's see, Tera, DCUO, Neverwinter, etc.
All have rooted action combat.
Please name me some action games that have no rooted combat
You know that combat in ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO right? if you want to compare ESO's combat then compare it to GW2. And GW2 already did the 'no rooted' combat thing.
I think in your excitement you are mixing up two style of combats here.
Yea, GW2 had non rooted action combat first. ESO took it, slowed it down a little, and added strategy to it rather than spamming the same 2-3 skills over and over again. I actually have to use different tactics for different monsters in ESO, it's not just max dps finger slam anymore, which is a good change imo. I missed this from older games (strategic combat) and am really happy it's coming back in some newer ones.
This is personal opinion of course just from my observations in beta as a regular GW2 player.
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Originally posted by Allacore69 This game has surpassed every expectation I had for it. Finally no rooted action combat. Great story and graphics. ESO for the win!!
Don't know what cave you have been hiding in but ESO isn't the first one to bring this to MMO genre.
Let's see, Tera, DCUO, Neverwinter, etc. All have rooted action combat.Please name me some action games that have no rooted combat
You know that combat in ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO right? if you want to compare ESO's combat then compare it to GW2. And GW2 already did the 'no rooted' combat thing.
I think in your excitement you are mixing up two style of combats here.
GW2 is NOT action combat. It's tab targeting cooldowns.
And yes I played all the free weekends to see this "Action Combat" for myself.
Originally posted by Allacore69 This game has surpassed every expectation I had for it. Finally no rooted action combat. Great story and graphics. ESO for the win!!
Don't know what cave you have been hiding in but ESO isn't the first one to bring this to MMO genre.
Let's see, Tera, DCUO, Neverwinter, etc. All have rooted action combat.Please name me some action games that have no rooted combat
You know that combat in ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO right? if you want to compare ESO's combat then compare it to GW2. And GW2 already did the 'no rooted' combat thing.
I think in your excitement you are mixing up two style of combats here.
GW2 is NOT action combat. It's tab targeting cooldowns.
And yes I played all the free weekends to see this "Action Combat" for myself.
Boy was I dissapointed.
WOW is tab targetting..GW2 is not. You really need to learn your combat styles man. You are jumbling them all up like spaghetti.
In GW2 you don't even need to target a mob in order to hit it. Yes you can cycle targets through tab but that doesnt mean it is 'tab target'.
ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO. I wonder what game you have been playing in beta. The point is not whether you liked the combat in GW2 but your original post trying to make it look as if ESO is first MMO to get rid of rooted combat.
Met my expectations. Even the gameplay/combat wasn't difficult to figure out sinc, just from the video, it looked like Skyrim with a hotbar.
The only thing i have really come around is the art style and world design. Before it looked soooo generic and boring, but the more videos have come out, i've come to actually like it more and more. Still feel like the overall world is too "horizontal" and lacks verticality tough. This doesn't include mobs and enemies.
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx Originally posted by Allacore69Originally posted by BigdaddyxOriginally posted by Allacore69Originally posted by DoogiehowserOriginally posted by Allacore69 This game has surpassed every expectation I had for it. Finally no rooted action combat. Great story and graphics. ESO for the win!!
Don't know what cave you have been hiding in but ESO isn't the first one to bring this to MMO genre.Let's see, Tera, DCUO, Neverwinter, etc. All have rooted action combat.Please name me some action games that have no rooted combatYou know that combat in ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO right? if you want to compare ESO's combat then compare it to GW2. And GW2 already did the 'no rooted' combat thing.I think in your excitement you are mixing up two style of combats here.GW2 is NOT action combat. It's tab targeting cooldowns.And yes I played all the free weekends to see this "Action Combat" for myself.Boy was I dissapointed.WOW is tab targetting..GW2 is not. You really need to learn your combat styles man. You are jumbling them all up like spaghetti.
In GW2 you don't even need to target a mob in order to hit it. Yes you can cycle targets through tab but that doesnt mean it is 'tab target'.
ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO. I wonder what game you have been playing in beta. The point is not whether you liked the combat in GW2 but your original post trying to make it look as if ESO is first MMO to get rid of rooted combat.
But they are the first. And again GW2 has NO action combat. It's called mash 1 - 9 and hope you win a fight.
I knew what I was going to get before the thing even released, and it's safe to say my expectations were right about spot on. That certainly doesn't mean I enjoy the game, quite the contrary, but I didn't expect one thing and get another; it was obviously not designed for someone like me from the get.
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I enjoyed my time in beta, sadly most of my friends did not. They went in thinking skyrim online where i went in thinking new mmo based off TES. They were mad you could not kill the shop keepers or mod your game like you can on oblivion, skyrim and such. The game all in all exceeded my expectations and i was happy to pre-order. I read a lot of bad things about the game and honestly some are valid but most seem like they just want to hate something and ESO is the new thing to hate.
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Originally posted by Allacore69 This game has surpassed every expectation I had for it. Finally no rooted action combat. Great story and graphics. ESO for the win!!
Don't know what cave you have been hiding in but ESO isn't the first one to bring this to MMO genre.
Let's see, Tera, DCUO, Neverwinter, etc. All have rooted action combat.Please name me some action games that have no rooted combat
You know that combat in ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO right? if you want to compare ESO's combat then compare it to GW2. And GW2 already did the 'no rooted' combat thing.I think in your excitement you are mixing up two style of combats here.
GW2 is NOT action combat. It's tab targeting cooldowns.And yes I played all the free weekends to see this "Action Combat" for myself.Boy was I dissapointed.
WOW is tab targetting..GW2 is not. You really need to learn your combat styles man. You are jumbling them all up like spaghetti.
In GW2 you don't even need to target a mob in order to hit it. Yes you can cycle targets through tab but that doesnt mean it is 'tab target'.
ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO. I wonder what game you have been playing in beta. The point is not whether you liked the combat in GW2 but your original post trying to make it look as if ESO is first MMO to get rid of rooted combat.
But they are the first. And again GW2 has NO action combat. It's called mash 1 - 9 and hope you win a fight.
Ughh looks like you just want to have the last word so go ahead but please stop comparing ESO combat with TERA or claiming that it is first MMO to get rid of rooted combat. If GW2 doesnt have action combat then i wonder why you keep calling ESO's combat 'action combat' which is similar to GW2.
Graphically and lore it has met slightly. in overall world design with closed off sections, not having a 100% open skill system like TSW that includes crafting, and not really being different from previous MMOs, it has missed.
Perhaps if I cared more about PvP I would be leaning towards the game but then again I did not like the combat at all, but with its title I was hoping for more of a ES being online experience. Something that is far more than graphics and lore.
Only put 5 hours into it but it was the most boring MMO I have ever played, most boring intro, island boring, art boring, combat super boring, not much lore, no interesting minigames or distractions, npcs are dumb, no mechanics that promote grouping, no interesting quests especially in gameplay terms, quest writing not very good too.
The only good thing is character creation and art on different races, hope in the future npcs have routines.
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Only put 5 hours into it but it was the most boring MMO I have ever played, most boring intro, island boring, art boring, combat super boring, not much lore, no interesting minigames or distractions, npcs are dumb, no mechanics that promote grouping, no interesting quests especially in gameplay terms, quest writing not very good too.
The only good thing is character creation and art on different races, hope in the future npcs have routines.
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Not when most of the wallets are open. I closed my wallet to WoW after 6 months of vanilla - I guess I really showed them, huh?
Elladan - ESO (AD)
Camring - SWTOR (Ebon Hawk)
Eol & Justinian - Rift (Faeblight)
Ceol and Duri - LotRO (Landroval)
Kili - WoW
Eol - Lineage 2
Camring - SWG
Justinian (Nimue), Camring - DAoC
Exceeded !
During the Beta week end I had fun !! yeah great fun !
I enjoyed exploring, looking for chest, finding npc for new quest, looking at my screen and the beautoifull color, landscape etc.
Just got a new PC after 4 years.. so I could have all settings at max and I enjoyed it and ESO is providing eveything I was expecting.
I voted exceeded because I posted a comment on regarding the inventory and bank default space... I did not see a big issue with it except that depening on the crafting skill you choose... you may fill it really fast.
Guess what, I've read that in the last patch they increased the initial personal and bank space
Great behavior, they listen to the community and so far I think they reacted pretty fast !! keep in mind that the game will be released in 3 weeks (for those who bought the right pack).. so this shows imho how the Dev team is willing to provide us a nice and pleasant game.
Slightly exceed, I love the combat, character building and the exploration. I don't find questing boring. I don't have an issue with combat, it's better than skyrim, and skyrim is the best selling RPG in the history AFAIK. What else do I expect? A combat system very different from skyrim and other TES games?
I have an issue with animation, glitches and collision detection. But I don't play MMORPG for perfect animation and collision detection, I can tolerate it. It does annoy me a bit that an expensive AAA title feels this cheap.
This game has surpassed every expectation I had for it.
Finally no rooted action combat. Great story and graphics.
ESO for the win!!
This ^^^^^
+1
Don't know what cave you have been hiding in but ESO isn't the first one to bring this to MMO genre.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
Let's see, Tera, DCUO, Neverwinter, etc.
All have rooted action combat.
Please name me some action games that have no rooted combat
You know that combat in ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO right? if you want to compare ESO's combat then compare it to GW2. And GW2 already did the 'no rooted' combat thing.
I think in your excitement you are mixing up two style of combats here.
Strongly exceeded. The visuals and the voice acting are great, most importantly the game plays fluidly on my 4 year old system (was testing Wildstar just before and I got a slideshow in most areas)
As an old DaoC player the most important thing for me was that AvAvA brought the good old Merlin-Midgard feeling back, this of all the post DaoC games had me really most engaged.
Negatives...
still a few bug especially when grouping
Pre-order players able to join all Alliances (realm pride???)
Otherwise...perfect
Yea, GW2 had non rooted action combat first. ESO took it, slowed it down a little, and added strategy to it rather than spamming the same 2-3 skills over and over again. I actually have to use different tactics for different monsters in ESO, it's not just max dps finger slam anymore, which is a good change imo. I missed this from older games (strategic combat) and am really happy it's coming back in some newer ones.
This is personal opinion of course just from my observations in beta as a regular GW2 player.
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
GW2 is NOT action combat. It's tab targeting cooldowns.
And yes I played all the free weekends to see this "Action Combat" for myself.
Boy was I dissapointed.
WOW is tab targetting..GW2 is not. You really need to learn your combat styles man. You are jumbling them all up like spaghetti.
In GW2 you don't even need to target a mob in order to hit it. Yes you can cycle targets through tab but that doesnt mean it is 'tab target'.
ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO. I wonder what game you have been playing in beta. The point is not whether you liked the combat in GW2 but your original post trying to make it look as if ESO is first MMO to get rid of rooted combat.
Met my expectations. Even the gameplay/combat wasn't difficult to figure out sinc, just from the video, it looked like Skyrim with a hotbar.
The only thing i have really come around is the art style and world design. Before it looked soooo generic and boring, but the more videos have come out, i've come to actually like it more and more. Still feel like the overall world is too "horizontal" and lacks verticality tough. This doesn't include mobs and enemies.
Let's see, Tera, DCUO, Neverwinter, etc. All have rooted action combat. Please name me some action games that have no rooted combat
You know that combat in ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO right? if you want to compare ESO's combat then compare it to GW2. And GW2 already did the 'no rooted' combat thing. I think in your excitement you are mixing up two style of combats here.
GW2 is NOT action combat. It's tab targeting cooldowns. And yes I played all the free weekends to see this "Action Combat" for myself. Boy was I dissapointed.
WOW is tab targetting..GW2 is not. You really need to learn your combat styles man. You are jumbling them all up like spaghetti.
In GW2 you don't even need to target a mob in order to hit it. Yes you can cycle targets through tab but that doesnt mean it is 'tab target'.
ESO is not action combat like TERA or DCUO. I wonder what game you have been playing in beta. The point is not whether you liked the combat in GW2 but your original post trying to make it look as if ESO is first MMO to get rid of rooted combat.
But they are the first. And again GW2 has NO action combat. It's called mash 1 - 9 and hope you win a fight.
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Strongly exceeded.
After the leaked project announcement I expected TES-WOW. From there that shifted to TES-DAOC/GW2. From recent information it's looking like TES-MMO.
Still not on my radar, but overall a significant improvement over initial expectations.
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Ughh looks like you just want to have the last word so go ahead but please stop comparing ESO combat with TERA or claiming that it is first MMO to get rid of rooted combat. If GW2 doesnt have action combat then i wonder why you keep calling ESO's combat 'action combat' which is similar to GW2.
Slightly on both sides of met and missed.
Graphically and lore it has met slightly. in overall world design with closed off sections, not having a 100% open skill system like TSW that includes crafting, and not really being different from previous MMOs, it has missed.
Perhaps if I cared more about PvP I would be leaning towards the game but then again I did not like the combat at all, but with its title I was hoping for more of a ES being online experience. Something that is far more than graphics and lore.
Only put 5 hours into it but it was the most boring MMO I have ever played, most boring intro, island boring, art boring, combat super boring, not much lore, no interesting minigames or distractions, npcs are dumb, no mechanics that promote grouping, no interesting quests especially in gameplay terms, quest writing not very good too.
The only good thing is character creation and art on different races, hope in the future npcs have routines.
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