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Elder Scrolls Online: Store Items to be Available at Launch

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

Zam has an interesting new interview with Zenimax's Matt Firor. In one of the more controversial, or at least discussion-worthy, questions, Firor is asked about what sorts of items players can expect to find in the Zenimax game store when Elder Scrolls Online goes live in early April.

What types of items or services can we expect to find in the Zenimax store?

The purpose of the store is to offer interested players a variety of additional services. At launch we’re going to have two items: the ability to upgrade to the Imperial Edition, and an entry level horse (Palomino colored). The horse you get in both purchases is functionally the same, but the Imperial Edition is the only way to ever get the White horse. We have the Palomino horse available to allow players to purchase a basic mount without purchasing the entire Imperial Edition.

Read the full interview at the link above. 

Thanks to LisaFlexy22 for the forum post and tip!

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  • DeniZgDeniZg Member UncommonPosts: 697
  • AlacerAlacer Member Posts: 2
    OP, Im sorry but where do You see "in-game" phrase in linked interview?
  • RhazmuzRhazmuz Member UncommonPosts: 208

    Horse armor DLC, part 2.

    At least it means I wont have to save up 17k gold before I can get a horse :)

  • amber-ramber-r Member Posts: 323

    This is really obnoxious, to launch with a high box price, horrible CE, a cash shop and a sub?

     

    I would say I hope people don't buy from the cash shop but I know they will.

  • JorlJorl Member UncommonPosts: 257
    Don't agree with cash shops in sub games, it should all be included in game. But we'll see how it goes, right now it's fine. As long it's just cosmetics in future and not p2w.
  • DeniZgDeniZg Member UncommonPosts: 697
    Originally posted by amber-r

    This is really obnoxious, to launch with a high box price, horrible CE, a cash shop and a sub?

     

    I would say I hope people don't buy from the cash shop but I know they will.

    Are you saying that Zenimax is NOT a Good guy developer?

  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,696
    Originally posted by SBFord

    Zam has an interesting new interview with Zenimax's Matt Firor. In one of the more controversial, or at least discussion-worthy, questions, Firor is asked about what sorts of items players can expect to find in the in-game store when Elder Scrolls Online goes live in early April.

    What types of items or services can we expect to find in the Zenimax store?

    The purpose of the store is to offer interested players a variety of additional services. At launch we’re going to have two items: the ability to upgrade to the Imperial Edition, and an entry level horse (Palomino colored). The horse you get in both purchases is functionally the same, but the Imperial Edition is the only way to ever get the White horse. We have the Palomino horse available to allow players to purchase a basic mount without purchasing the entire Imperial Edition.

    Read the full interview at the link above. 

    Thanks to LisaFlexy22 for the forum post and tip!

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    Are you sure you are reading this correctly?

    The actual question regarding the store is copied below:

    What types of items or services can we expect to find in the Zenimax store?

    The purpose of the store is to offer interested players a variety of additional services. At launch we’re going to have two items: the ability to upgrade to the Imperial Edition, and an entry level horse (Palomino colored). The horse you get in both purchases is functionally the same, but the Imperial Edition is the only way to ever get the White horse. We have the Palomino horse available to allow players to purchase a basic mount without purchasing the entire Imperial Edition.

    Now a similar question regarding upgrading to the Imperial Edition is asked in the support section of the ESO site:

    • Can I upgrade to the Digital Imperial Edition?<span zos_col1"="">

      Starting April 4th, 2014 all customers who pre-purchased the Digital Standard Edition can upgrade to the Digital Imperial Edition by visiting The Elder Scrolls Online Store (https://store.elderscrollsonline.com). This will allow them to receive the exclusive collection of in-game rewards available from the Digital Imperial Edition. This upgrade service will be available from April 4th, 2014.

      If players have purchased a physical copy of the Standard Edition but wish to upgrade to the Digital Imperial Edition, our upgrade service is also there to assist them.

    The link that is provided in the reply takes you to the store site:

    https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store

    As you can see this site will need updating on or before April 4th to show the upgrade options. This may not be the only update to this site at that time.

    I suggest this is also where the horse may appear. Not an in-game site, but the standard external store.

     

     

  • CalvenCalven Member Posts: 151
    Remember when you had to actually work to get something in a game? The sense of accomplishment that made every gamer happy? I remember when I finally pulled enough gold together to buy my mount in WoW.. Rode that fucker for hours on end. with a stupid grin on my face. Now you can buy the most essential parts of the challange in almost every MMORPG. There's no longer a focus on the journey toawrds the end but rather a focus on the end itself and how to get there quicker than your fellow gamers
  • orionblackorionblack Member UncommonPosts: 493
    Originally posted by Calven
    Remember when you had to actually work to get something in a game? The sense of accomplishment that made every gamer happy? I remember when I finally pulled enough gold together to buy my mount in WoW.. Rode that fucker for hours on end. with a stupid grin on my face. Now you can buy the most essential parts of the challange in almost every MMORPG. There's no longer a focus on the journey toawrds the end but rather a focus on the end itself and how to get there quicker than your fellow gamers

    It's not just this game that does that but every game before it. Yeah a sense of accomplishment is sorely missing now a days from all new games.

    I'm still playing the game when it launches , but your right about what you said. ^^

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    Store = yes

    Selling something other than "account services and fun stuff" = yes

    In game = NO.

     

    Get it right. It might seem like a small distinction but to someone whose only objection to F2P is the intrusive in-game shop and other in-game ads, it's an important one.

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  • MangaMaidenMangaMaiden Member Posts: 180
    As long as it is cosmetic I am not really fussed... the current cash shop is no where near P2W.. but it is pushing it with a sub model already in there to begin with.

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  • ElthiumElthium Member UncommonPosts: 90
    Personally I won't be buying anything from the cash shop. Buy price + sub is about as much of my hard earned cash as they're getting.
  • LisaFlexy22LisaFlexy22 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    Originally posted by MangaMaiden
    As long as it is cosmetic I am not really fussed... the current cash shop is no where near P2W.. but it is pushing it with a sub model already in there to begin with.

    It's not just cosmetic, horses in ESO are probably the most significant mounts I've seen in any MMO with everything that comes with them (storage space, skills, etc)

  • HrothaHrotha Member UncommonPosts: 821
    Originally posted by Calven
    Remember when you had to actually work to get something in a game? The sense of accomplishment that made every gamer happy? I remember when I finally pulled enough gold together to buy my mount in WoW.. Rode that fucker for hours on end. with a stupid grin on my face. Now you can buy the most essential parts of the challange in almost every MMORPG. There's no longer a focus on the journey toawrds the end but rather a focus on the end itself and how to get there quicker than your fellow gamers

    You misunderstand something here.

    You still can work greatly in a game to achieve something. But this is an illusion. The items are in the game and the game gives you the illusion to work for it, making it of greater value for you, because of the invested time and the craving for the item. But the item is still there, right from the beginning, it is just obstacled by these means. A grey item compared to a purple or orange item is just a difference in code.. it simply is the same. It is just an illusion of being better indicated by color, a story to it and maybe +2 or +3 more stats. See this!

    And what a cash shop like this is just providing you the OPTION, this is NO MUST, to get.. for example a horse.. earlier then getting the Same Horse ingame abit later.

    You only buy time. Nothing else.

    So please stay objective and dont masturbate in your own inability to look clearly into this and rather revel in nostalgia.

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  • BeastnBeastn Member UncommonPosts: 111

    Seriously who the phuck cares about a cash shop horse??? Really.....is the mount "pay to win"? ESO has a cash shop!!! Im...wait for it....SHOCKED!!!

     

    As long as they're not selling high level raid/end game equivalent gear, pvp/pve potion upgrades (stats and what-not) or Max level toons....then what do you care??? So somebody would rather pay real money then spend the time it takes in game to earn a pony....or theirs a cool costume piece that they would like....or at a later date decide...I want to tank, and the Imperial's racials would be nice...im going to upgrade to the imperial eddition...Does this "Break the Game" or make Zenimax "evil"..

  • TheAmazingDwarfTheAmazingDwarf Member UncommonPosts: 234
    WoW has been selling mounts and pets for years at their webshop. No big deal. You want the pet or the mount now and see no fuss in cashing out 20€ for it? It's up to you. Videogames have evolved in so many ways technically, why shouldn't that evolve in terms of business model?

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  • LisaFlexy22LisaFlexy22 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    Originally posted by DwarfZZZ
    WoW has been selling mounts and pets for years at their webshop. No big deal. You want the pet or the mount now and see no fuss in cashing out 20€ for it? It's up to you. Videogames have evolved in so many ways technically, why shouldn't that evolve in terms of business model?

    So because wow did it that makes it ok?  What was it my mom used to say........two wrongs don't make a right.

  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,696
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    Originally posted by DwarfZZZ
    WoW has been selling mounts and pets for years at their webshop. No big deal. You want the pet or the mount now and see no fuss in cashing out 20€ for it? It's up to you. Videogames have evolved in so many ways technically, why shouldn't that evolve in terms of business model?

    So because wow did it that makes it ok?  What was it my mom used to say........two wrongs don't make a right.

    What do you mean wrong?

    If you want more items you buy the Imperial Edition - If you don't want all these extras you buy the Standard one.

    Now if you don't want to pay the higher sum for the Imperial edition, but want a mount you can just buy the horse.

     

    People who are buying the Imperial edition get more than a horse, they do get in-game bonuses. Is this another "wrong" to you?

    You cannot have it both ways. If you think that paying for a horse is wrong, then where is the difference in paying even more for a horse, imperial, rings etc.

     

  • CalvenCalven Member Posts: 151
    Originally posted by Hrotha
    Originally posted by Calven
    Remember when you had to actually work to get something in a game? The sense of accomplishment that made every gamer happy? I remember when I finally pulled enough gold together to buy my mount in WoW.. Rode that fucker for hours on end. with a stupid grin on my face. Now you can buy the most essential parts of the challange in almost every MMORPG. There's no longer a focus on the journey toawrds the end but rather a focus on the end itself and how to get there quicker than your fellow gamers

    You misunderstand something here.

    You still can work greatly in a game to achieve something. But this is an illusion. The items are in the game and the game gives you the illusion to work for it, making it of greater value for you, because of the invested time and the craving for the item. But the item is still there, right from the beginning, it is just obstacled by these means. A grey item compared to a purple or orange item is just a difference in code.. it simply is the same. It is just an illusion of being better indicated by color, a story to it and maybe +2 or +3 more stats. See this!

    And what a cash shop like this is just providing you the OPTION, this is NO MUST, to get.. for example a horse.. earlier then getting the Same Horse ingame abit later.

    You only buy time. Nothing else.

    So please stay objective and dont masturbate in your own inability to look clearly into this and rather revel in nostalgia.

    What a load of bollocks.

    There is no illusion. A particular item has a predetermined value that makes it desirable to obtain. The greater the value the greater the desire to get it. The most desirable items are those which possess some exclusive traits. Now, it would be folly to provide everyone free access to the exclusive items from the very beginning since much of the entertainment in gaming is derived from completing challenges and revel in the sense of accomplishment by achieving access to these exclusive items. The very same sense of accomplishment is ruined when one player's endeavours to obtain a mount is diminished by the bloke who rides past on his exclusive mount which, by the mere fact of it being exclusive to those who can pay for it, possesses some qualities that in-game obtainable mounts do not, be they cosmetic or otherwise. Exclusiveness is extremely important in MMORPGs because you constantly interact with other persons. And, believe it or not, the same rules apply in-game as in real life. We want to display how we are greater or different.

    My sense of accomplishment is ruined when all the work I put into getting a mount is worth less than the price of an exclusive mount. Furthermore, I have just spent a significant amount of resources to acquire this mount, while you haven't. You now possess a siginificant advantage in a game that contains a high level of competition.

    This has nothing to do with nostalgia. This is about a development that I believe is destroying the foundations of this genre and others as well. And since i'm not twat I won't tell you to go masturbate on anything.

  • This is the bloody horse that's available in the Imperial Edition, and now people are butthurt over it?

    They're giving people who didn't purchase that edition the option to have a Mount at the beginning because they didn't want to spend the extra $20 on imperial.

     

     

     

  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,696

    And this headline need revising with a correction notice.

    There's no mention of an in-game store. The link that is provided in other articles by Zenimax is to here:

    https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store

    With a notificaiton that this is going to be updated on or before April 4th.

     

  • LisaFlexy22LisaFlexy22 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    Originally posted by JudgeUK
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    Originally posted by DwarfZZZ
    WoW has been selling mounts and pets for years at their webshop. No big deal. You want the pet or the mount now and see no fuss in cashing out 20€ for it? It's up to you. Videogames have evolved in so many ways technically, why shouldn't that evolve in terms of business model?

    So because wow did it that makes it ok?  What was it my mom used to say........two wrongs don't make a right.

    What do you mean wrong?

    If you want more items you buy the Imperial Edition - If you don't want all these extras you buy the Standard one.

    Now if you don't want to pay the higher sum for the Imperial edition, but want a mount you can just buy the horse.

     

    People who are buying the Imperial edition get more than a horse, they do get in-game bonuses. Is this another "wrong" to you?

    You cannot have it both ways. If you think that paying for a horse is wrong, then where is the difference in paying even more for a horse, imperial, rings etc.

     

    Actually your last statement is correct - I think the pre-order bonus issue was as "wrong" as this is.  And if you think their cash shop is just going to be one innocent horse I feel you're fooling yourself.  It will START there as it's the smoothest way to introduce that sort of thing, because people, like yourself, will make the exact argument you just made to defend it.  But it will escalate from the simple beginnings to be sure.

  • brihtwulfbrihtwulf Member UncommonPosts: 975

    I don't care if items available for purchase impact gameplay, or if they're just fluff.  If you're going to charge full box price ($60 US), AND a $15 a month subscription, you have NO business selling additional items in any kind of store.  I expect this is just the beginning.  Soon they'll be selling cosmetic armor, boosts, and all the things that are in the various hybrid games like Rift and LotRO.  Except they will be requiring you to pay monthly on top any "store" purchases.

    I'm a big Elder Scrolls fan, but this game sounds more and more like a sick money ploy than an actual continuation of the series.  I won't be playing.

  • GoldenArrowGoldenArrow Member UncommonPosts: 1,186

    LOL

    They are simply offering people the chance to buy the horse without paying 70€~ for the freaking imperial edition.

    (However they are testing the cash shop for upcoming F2P conversion while at it)

  • st3v3b0st3v3b0 Member UncommonPosts: 155
    Like I said.. They are prepared for when they go B2P.
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