"The North American and European megaservers will first be hosted in North America."

Seelinnikoi · March 2014

So... playing Elder Scrolls Online from Europe connecting to the North American servers...

No wonder my latency was sky high.

Anyone else having high latency too?

Miblet · March 2014

Ranging from 140 to 350ish here.

It plays well given the latency, better than many of other games that host US servers.

That said it doesn't feel as good as I suspect it could if latency wasn't as big an issue (blocking can be meh at times).

But then again Zenimax did say players reported no lag from the EU and we could enjoy the game as it was meant to be played...

I admit it wasn't an announcement that me happy that this is what we as EU customers would get for launch, and an undisclosed time after.

gervaise1 · March 2014

I would expect the impact to be greater in PvP.

Does explain the lack of an EU beta of course!

Raapnaap · March 2014

That might explain the latency issues. Seriously though? That's fairly disturbing that EU players get a lesser service for a greater fee... Oh wait, no it isn't. EU customers always get the shortest stick.

IKShadow · March 2014

Originally posted by raapnaap
That might explain the latency issues. Seriously though? That's fairly disturbing that EU players get a lesser service for a greater fee... Oh wait, no it isn't. EU customers always get the shortest stick.

While paying more as 15€ = $20.8

Lord.Bachus · March 2014

Originally posted by IKShadow
Originally posted by raapnaap
That might explain the latency issues. Seriously though? That's fairly disturbing that EU players get a lesser service for a greater fee... Oh wait, no it isn't. EU customers always get the shortest stick.

While paying more as 15€ = $20.8

This is fracking unbelievable...

there is no reason not to host in the EU, we have a much better backbone service at lower prices then The US..

PvP is unaccetable with pings over 100 ms..

did they give a reason for this?

there was quite some outrage about this on the EU zone chat this afternoon

superconducting · March 2014

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by IKShadow
Originally posted by raapnaap
That might explain the latency issues. Seriously though? That's fairly disturbing that EU players get a lesser service for a greater fee... Oh wait, no it isn't. EU customers always get the shortest stick.

While paying more as 15€ = $20.8

This is fracking unbelievable...

there is no reason not to host in the EU, we have a much better backbone service at lower prices then The US..

PvP is unaccetable with pings over 100 ms..

did they give a reason for this?

My guess is they just can't have the EU servers ready by launch.

spizz · March 2014

Originally posted by superconducting
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by IKShadow
Originally posted by raapnaap
That might explain the latency issues. Seriously though? That's fairly disturbing that EU players get a lesser service for a greater fee... Oh wait, no it isn't. EU customers always get the shortest stick.

While paying more as 15€ = $20.8

This is fracking unbelievable...

there is no reason not to host in the EU, we have a much better backbone service at lower prices then The US..

PvP is unaccetable with pings over 100 ms..

did they give a reason for this?

My guess is they just can't have the EU servers ready by launch.

Where does it says there will be US servers named just EU at release ? I doubt this, this would lead to performance problems.

Sagethorn · March 2014

This is where I say cry me a river, those of us in Oceania are always complaining about this exact issue, not only about having pings in the 250-400 range unless paying for an additional tunneling service to lower our ping but also the cost of the box itself.

It's a source of amazement for me that it's apparently acceptable to the rest of the world until it happens to them, at least for those of you in the EU, you know that servers will be in your near future.

And PvP is manageable with a Ping of 250, we have been doing it for years.

I guess you can just call me jaded about this whole argument with the treatment we have received from EU and US players for these problems.

Ilaya · March 2014

For me as an EU guy and considering that i'll pay 13€ per month, this is a Huge letdown. I dont like that at all. They had enough time to get everything settled by now.

Volgore · March 2014

Originally posted by superconducting

My guess is they just can't have the EU servers ready by launch.

If i look at some of Zenimax' recent moves i wonder what there'll be ready at launch at all.

Crazy_Stick · March 2014

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by IKShadow
Originally posted by raapnaap
That might explain the latency issues. Seriously though? That's fairly disturbing that EU players get a lesser service for a greater fee... Oh wait, no it isn't. EU customers always get the shortest stick.

While paying more as 15€ = $20.8

This is fracking unbelievable...

there is no reason not to host in the EU, we have a much better backbone service at lower prices then The US..

PvP is unaccetable with pings over 100 ms..

did they give a reason for this?

there was quite some outrage about this on the EU zone chat this afternoon

I am blaming the French as they won the enie meanie minie moe.

Shodanas · March 2014

Originally posted by Sagethorn
This is where I say cry me a river, those of us in Oceania are always complaining about this exact issue, not only about having pings in the 250-400 range unless paying for an additional tunneling service to lower our ping but also the cost of the box itself.

It's a source of amazement for me that it's apparently acceptable to the rest of the world until it happens to them, at least for those of you in the EU, you know that servers will be in your near future.

And PvP is manageable with a Ping of 250, we have been doing it for years.

I guess you can just call me jaded about this whole argument with the treatment we have received from EU and US players for these problems.

This is a joke, right? Europe has a population of almost 740 million (500 mil in the EU).

Eladi · March 2014

lol.. you guys might wana try connecting to the Europe (login) servers instead of the us ones.. or get a better internet connection coz i have no more then 50 latency (dutch/europe)

Sagethorn · March 2014

Originally posted by Shodanas
Originally posted by Sagethorn
This is where I say cry me a river, those of us in Oceania are always complaining about this exact issue, not only about having pings in the 250-400 range unless paying for an additional tunneling service to lower our ping but also the cost of the box itself.

It's a source of amazement for me that it's apparently acceptable to the rest of the world until it happens to them, at least for those of you in the EU, you know that servers will be in your near future.

And PvP is manageable with a Ping of 250, we have been doing it for years.

I guess you can just call me jaded about this whole argument with the treatment we have received from EU and US players for these problems.

This is a joke, right? Europe has a population of almost 740 million (500 mil in the EU).

Where have I mentioned anything about population, my argument stems from the Ping and box price we receive. My point was how amusing it is when other continents receive the same treatment we receive and how they react.

Whenever we post this type of complaint about the quality of service we receive compared to other regions we are told to harden up, get over it, your hypocrisy is amazing but your tears are so delicious.

Lokberg · March 2014

Originally posted by Sagethorn
Originally posted by Shodanas
Originally posted by Sagethorn
This is where I say cry me a river, those of us in Oceania are always complaining about this exact issue, not only about having pings in the 250-400 range unless paying for an additional tunneling service to lower our ping but also the cost of the box itself.

It's a source of amazement for me that it's apparently acceptable to the rest of the world until it happens to them, at least for those of you in the EU, you know that servers will be in your near future.

And PvP is manageable with a Ping of 250, we have been doing it for years.

I guess you can just call me jaded about this whole argument with the treatment we have received from EU and US players for these problems.

This is a joke, right? Europe has a population of almost 740 million (500 mil in the EU).

Where have I mentioned anything about population, my argument stems from the Ping and box price we receive. My point was how amusing it is when other continents receive the same treatment we receive and how they react.

Whenever we post this type of complaint about the quality of service we receive compared to other regions we are told to harden up, get over it, your hypocrisy is amazing but your tears are so delicious.

Well comparebly speaking how many extra subs are we talking about from oceania side really?

The box price you recive is due to your own countrys taxations, same here in eu we have to pay same for digital as the physical if not the stores refuse to stock the boxes and game lose it sales.

rojoArcueid · March 2014

Originally posted by superconducting
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by IKShadow
Originally posted by raapnaap
That might explain the latency issues. Seriously though? That's fairly disturbing that EU players get a lesser service for a greater fee... Oh wait, no it isn't. EU customers always get the shortest stick.

While paying more as 15€ = $20.8

This is fracking unbelievable...

there is no reason not to host in the EU, we have a much better backbone service at lower prices then The US..

PvP is unaccetable with pings over 100 ms..

did they give a reason for this?

My guess is they just can't have the EU servers ready by launch.

i guess so many preorders got over their heads and want to release the game without being ready instead of delaying the damn thing a providing a better service for everyone equally. If noone preordered they would see no money up front and actually finish the thing before launch. That is my wild guess. I could be wrong but i rather think that way and not defend money hungry companies.

Miblet · March 2014

Originally posted by Eladi
lol.. you guys might wana try connecting to the Europe (login) servers instead of the us ones.. or get a better internet connection coz i have no more then 50 latency (dutch/europe)

There are no European based servers currently. So how exactly are you connecting to their European login servers?

They are still in the process of setting up the EU data center. The beta (both EU and US) is running from the NA data center currently, and will until sometime after launch.

Sagethorn · March 2014

Originally posted by Lokberg
Originally posted by Sagethorn
Originally posted by Shodanas
Originally posted by Sagethorn
This is where I say cry me a river, those of us in Oceania are always complaining about this exact issue, not only about having pings in the 250-400 range unless paying for an additional tunneling service to lower our ping but also the cost of the box itself.

It's a source of amazement for me that it's apparently acceptable to the rest of the world until it happens to them, at least for those of you in the EU, you know that servers will be in your near future.

And PvP is manageable with a Ping of 250, we have been doing it for years.

I guess you can just call me jaded about this whole argument with the treatment we have received from EU and US players for these problems.

This is a joke, right? Europe has a population of almost 740 million (500 mil in the EU).

Where have I mentioned anything about population, my argument stems from the Ping and box price we receive. My point was how amusing it is when other continents receive the same treatment we receive and how they react.

Whenever we post this type of complaint about the quality of service we receive compared to other regions we are told to harden up, get over it, your hypocrisy is amazing but your tears are so delicious.

Well comparebly speaking how many extra subs are we talking about from oceania side really?

The box price you recive is due to your own countrys taxations, same here in eu we have to pay same for digital as the physical if not the stores refuse to stock the boxes and game lose it sales.

I agree with you guys with the box price issues and the issue with no server nearby causing high pings, this is not what my posts were about if you go re-read them, my posts where about how amusing it is when other regions have to deal with what we deal with on a daily basis.

And since you both insist on talking population demographics the area I am talking about extends from Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand and the smaller islands, a total population according to wikipedia of some 640 million, this whole area suffers from the latency drama as we either have to join NA servers or EU, we cannot join China or Korean servers due to different client versions for the majority of games, not to mention the language barriers.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceania

You can use those links to educate yourselves that the world is not made up solely of the EU and NA, and that there is a significant portion of the world that gets shafted in regards to poor service when we pay for the same quality of service as the NA and EU.

As I said in my first post, call me jaded but I find it amazing how the rest of the world complains and it's somehow justifiable when it happens to them, but we get told to suck it up whenever we mention it.

Lokberg · March 2014

Well language barriers are everywere I as an eu player have russians, germans, spanish, italian that for the most part cant or refuse to type english and there are a bunch of other countries aswell.

But usualy the french and the germans can complain enough to get their own servers, funny that to oceanic cant i guess there aint a huge enough market share there for the companys, or they wait and see if the game will be profitable in the asian market beför setting up servers for you guys.

Then its more wait untill maybe it gets over to your continent or pay up and play sadly.

Guess we should stop this sillyness and learn the language the majortiy of the people speak....

Dang i dont want to learn mandarin

askdaboss · March 2014

Originally posted by Sagethorn
Where have I mentioned anything about population, my argument stems from the Ping and box price we receive. My point was how amusing it is when other continents receive the same treatment we receive and how they react.

Whenever we post this type of complaint about the quality of service we receive compared to other regions we are told to harden up, get over it, your hypocrisy is amazing but your tears are so delicious.

Wow, what a terrible attitude.

Instead of fighting for the betterment of your condition, let's just instead use your energy to dismiss/ridicule other people, trying to bring everyone to the poor level of service you guys have been getting for years.

I hope you do realise that:

1) You are actually making your own problems worse by accepting *anywhere* in the world a poor level of service, and certainly aren't getting any nearer of seeing your own problem solved if you support poor pings elsewhere (because it is likely that from any company's perspective, US > EU > Oceania).

2) You are unlikely to garner any support with your attitude from EU/US players. However, we're smarter than that and we know that you're the rotten fruit of the lot.

3) I have never personally met a US/EU player actually finding that it is fair for Oceania players to have a higher ping, and I'm pretty sure the majority would actually like you to be happy and have as much enjoyment as you can from life (well, I know I certainly wish for other people to be happy), and so by extension we all wish you to have the ping you want if this makes you happy.

Sincerely,

another forum poster hoping that one day you grow up.

AzurePrower · March 2014

Originally posted by askdaboss
Originally posted by Sagethorn
Where have I mentioned anything about population, my argument stems from the Ping and box price we receive. My point was how amusing it is when other continents receive the same treatment we receive and how they react.

Whenever we post this type of complaint about the quality of service we receive compared to other regions we are told to harden up, get over it, your hypocrisy is amazing but your tears are so delicious.

Wow, what a terrible attitude.

Instead of fighting for the betterment of your condition, let's just instead use your energy to dismiss/ridicule other people, trying to bring everyone to the poor level of service you guys have been getting for years.

I hope you do realise that:

1) You are actually making your own problems worse by accepting *anywhere* in the world a poor level of service, and certainly aren't getting any nearer of seeing your own problem solved if you support poor pings elsewhere (because it is likely that from any company's perspective, US > EU > Oceania).

2) You are unlikely to garner any support with your attitude from EU/US players. However, we're smarter than that and we know that you're the rotten fruit of the lot.

3) I have never personally met a US/EU player actually finding that it is fair for Oceania players to have a higher ping, and I'm pretty sure the majority would actually like you to be happy and have as much enjoyment as you can from life (well, I know I certainly wish for other people to be happy), and so by extension we all wish you to have the ping you want if this makes you happy.

Sincerely,

another forum poster hoping that one day you grow up.

You have to admit. It is amusing that whilst those in Oceania have to put up with such pings permanently with little more than an annoyed comment about it. When some one else is subject to such pings temporarily: they go all out hysterical like the world is ending.

Originally posted by raapnaap
That might explain the latency issues. Seriously though? That's fairly disturbing that EU players get a lesser service for a greater fee... Oh wait, no it isn't. EU customers always get the shortest stick.

Comments like these scream for Oceania to say hi.

Zyxx · March 2014

Compare the technology from those Oceanic countries and with the EU. I would guess that we have more suitable customers than down under.

Population count is useless if they can't play the game..

skyline385 · March 2014

Originally posted by AzurePrower
Originally posted by raapnaap
That might explain the latency issues. Seriously though? That's fairly disturbing that EU players get a lesser service for a greater fee... Oh wait, no it isn't. EU customers always get the shortest stick.

Comments like these scream for Oceania to say hi.

Hi

Regards,

Asia

mbrodie · March 2014

Originally posted by Sagethorn
This is where I say cry me a river, those of us in Oceania are always complaining about this exact issue, not only about having pings in the 250-400 range unless paying for an additional tunneling service to lower our ping but also the cost of the box itself.

It's a source of amazement for me that it's apparently acceptable to the rest of the world until it happens to them, at least for those of you in the EU, you know that servers will be in your near future.

And PvP is manageable with a Ping of 250, we have been doing it for years.

I guess you can just call me jaded about this whole argument with the treatment we have received from EU and US players for these problems.

i agree, in an mmo environment, anyone who thinks you need a < 100ms latency to PvP competitively is a terrible player, i've been doing it with latencies of 165 - 250ms in most games from australia and it's never once held me back.

mbrodie · March 2014

Originally posted by Lokberg
Originally posted by Sagethorn
Originally posted by Shodanas
Originally posted by Sagethorn
This is where I say cry me a river, those of us in Oceania are always complaining about this exact issue, not only about having pings in the 250-400 range unless paying for an additional tunneling service to lower our ping but also the cost of the box itself.

It's a source of amazement for me that it's apparently acceptable to the rest of the world until it happens to them, at least for those of you in the EU, you know that servers will be in your near future.

And PvP is manageable with a Ping of 250, we have been doing it for years.

I guess you can just call me jaded about this whole argument with the treatment we have received from EU and US players for these problems.

This is a joke, right? Europe has a population of almost 740 million (500 mil in the EU).

Where have I mentioned anything about population, my argument stems from the Ping and box price we receive. My point was how amusing it is when other continents receive the same treatment we receive and how they react.

Whenever we post this type of complaint about the quality of service we receive compared to other regions we are told to harden up, get over it, your hypocrisy is amazing but your tears are so delicious.

Well comparebly speaking how many extra subs are we talking about from oceania side really?

The box price you recive is due to your own countrys taxations, same here in eu we have to pay same for digital as the physical if not the stores refuse to stock the boxes and game lose it sales.

that is incorrect, australia has no digital sales taxes in place... in EVERY other MMO i've always paid NA price give or take a few dollars for exchange rates and thats buying basically every MMO to be released in hte past 10 - 15 years, ZOS is the first studio to literally mark up a price specifically for australia.

AGAIN i repeat and i made a huge thread about this a couple of weeks back.. AUSTRALIA is subject to NO DIGITAL sales taxes like you are in europe

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