Wildstar having problems with AMD CPUs?

MikeJezZ · March 2014

I tried the Wildstar beta, and while having alot of fun, i cant make myself buy a game that doesnt support my hardware properly.

For some reason, my friend that has a identical machine aside from the CPU (same gigs, same gfx card etc), he can pull over 60 FPS, while I am bottled to 25 FPS when theres no one around, coming down to 8 FPS in battlegrounds.

I have tried checking software that could unlock all my cores at the same time, but for some reason, my cores never uses its full potential (I have 6 cores), so Wildstar wont use all the power my CPU has.

Anyone with AMD who has experience the same problems?

AMD Phenom II X6 1075T 3.4 Ghz

8 GB DDR3 RAM

Nvidia Geforcde 660 ti

Win 7 64 bit.

mentoplus · March 2014

tellme 1 case (except wow maybe) where a amd processor works ok on a mmorpg

tera, gw2, aion, ffxiv, rift all of the mainstream mmorpgs now are crap on amd architecture, not even a fx9550 can match a 4 year old 2500k

amd cpus are garbage for mmorpgs

Doushi · March 2014

AMD athlon II 955 BE 3.7ghz

8gb ram

gtx760 2gb ram

win7 64bit

fps on lowest settings were 20fps max, if it put it higher it was around 5 to 10.

Edit:

For comparison 70 fps in ESO when soloing highest setting, and 20-30 when pvp.

Avul · March 2014

AMD user here and my performance with WildStar was pretty bad. 16GB Ram, ~4GHz (4-core) and about 15-20fps for the most time. Sometimes 30fps but in raid groups with 20 people (for example the public event in Malgrave.. the arena) around 2-5fps.

(.. and all on the lowest settings possible)

Reehay · March 2014

Naw I dont think so. I have almost the same system as you and I get about 40-80 FPS depending on if its hectic PVP or soloing or grouping. I'd say my average was around 50fps. I havent really "raided" yet though but the pvp looked pretty action packed and the FPS was fine.

AMD Phenom 1100t (@ 4.0ghz)

AMD 6970 (stock speed)

8gb RAM 1600mhz

Win7

**Keep in mind that this was as recent as 1 month ago and i believe Wildstar said all the "high textures" werent even in the game yet. They seem to be tweaking and optimizing the graphics alot.

Reehay · March 2014

Originally posted by sisco1986
tellme 1 case (except wow maybe) where a amd processor works ok on a mmorpg

tera, gw2, aion, ffxiv, rift all of the mainstream mmorpgs now are crap on amd architecture, not even a fx9550 can match a 4 year old 2500k

amd cpus are garbage for mmorpgs

liar. you are a full of shit disinformation intel fanboy.

I played all those MMOs, except AION, and my FPS was fine.

here moron, here is a video of someone playing Wildstar on MAX settings, three weeks ago, with AMD system weaker than the OP and a much weaker nvidia GPU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5sTmdbGLQ

Reehay · March 2014

BS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5sTmdbGLQ

mentoplus · March 2014

Originally posted by Reehay
Originally posted by sisco1986
tellme 1 case (except wow maybe) where a amd processor works ok on a mmorpg

tera, gw2, aion, ffxiv, rift all of the mainstream mmorpgs now are crap on amd architecture, not even a fx9550 can match a 4 year old 2500k

amd cpus are garbage for mmorpgs

liar. you are a full of shit disinformation intel fanboy.

I played all those MMOs, except AION, and my FPS was fine.

here moron, here is a video of someone playing Wildstar on MAX settings, three weeks ago, with AMD system weaker than the OP and a much weaker nvidia GPU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5sTmdbGLQ

so, the oficial forums of tera, gw2, aion and rift are a lie?

ahahahaha go and look for "1" video of a tera/rift raid on amd with a good framerate

and ofcourse, tera weekly outside raid runs on 1-2 fps on amd hardware LOL

Thorqemada · March 2014

Trolls bash stuff they have no clue about - pls delete Thread!

DeniZg · March 2014

AMD CPU's in general have poor(er) single core performance, which coupled with the fact that MMO's are heavily dependand on single core CPU perfomance, will give you worse results on AMD.

I've tried Wildstar on both of my rigs (FX6300+AMD7770 and i5 3470+AMD7850) and yes, AMD has worse performance, but nothing significant, having in mind price difference of these 2 CPUs.

skyline385 · March 2014

Closed beta tester here.

The game is very poorly optimised. The optimisation patch for release is still probably in the works.

Nitth · March 2014

Originally posted by MikeJezZ
I tried the Wildstar beta, and while having alot of fun, i cant make myself buy a game that doesnt support my hardware properly. For some reason, my friend that has a identical machine aside from the CPU (same gigs, same gfx card etc), he can pull over 60 FPS, while I am bottled to 25 FPS when theres no one around, coming down to 8 FPS in battlegrounds.I have tried checking software that could unlock all my cores at the same time, but for some reason, my cores never uses its full potential (I have 6 cores), so Wildstar wont use all the power my CPU has. Anyone with AMD who has experience the same problems? AMD Phenom II X6 1075T 3.4 Ghz8 GB DDR3 RAMNvidia Geforcde 660 tiWin 7 64 bit.

Used to have a 1090T, Side graded to a I7 920, Gained 10+ base frames.

DeniZg · March 2014

Originally posted by skyline385
Closed beta tester here.

The game is very poorly optimised. The optimisation patch for release is still probably in the works.

I've never experienced significant improvement from those "pre-launch optimization patches" in my 10 years of playing MMO's. If you want good MMO performance, buy strong Intel CPU. Or, keep hoping for optimization patches, which usually never come suddenly, but are slowly implemented in baby steps through couple of years while MMO is on the market..

Just sayin', so people don't get their hopes too high.

skyline385 · March 2014

Originally posted by DeniZg
Originally posted by skyline385
Closed beta tester here.

The game is very poorly optimised. The optimisation patch for release is still probably in the works.

I've never experienced significant improvement from those "pre-launch optimization patches" in my 10 years of playing MMO's. If you want good MMO performance, buy strong Intel CPU. Or, keep hoping for optimization patches, which usually never come suddenly, but are slowly implemented in baby steps through couple of years while MMO is on the market..

Just sayin', so people don't get their hopes too high.

I have an Intel i5-2500K with a GTX560 and i still get performance issues. People running GTX780 in SLi have reported FPS issues. So NO, the issues aren't magically gonna be solved by buying an Intel CPU.

Nitth · March 2014

Originally posted by sisco1986
tellme 1 case (except wow maybe) where a amd processor works ok on a mmorpg tera, gw2, aion, ffxiv, rift all of the mainstream mmorpgs now are crap on amd architecture, not even a fx9550 can match a 4 year old 2500kamd cpus are garbage for mmorpgs

I have used AMD for about 10 years And played maybe 30 mmorpgs over that time. Not once do i recall were a game was unplaybale under AMD.

Optimal frames? I suspect not. But regardless i received a good to excellent performance.

DeniZg · March 2014

Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by DeniZg
Originally posted by skyline385
Closed beta tester here.

The game is very poorly optimised. The optimisation patch for release is still probably in the works.

I've never experienced significant improvement from those "pre-launch optimization patches" in my 10 years of playing MMO's. If you want good MMO performance, buy strong Intel CPU. Or, keep hoping for optimization patches, which usually never come suddenly, but are slowly implemented in baby steps through couple of years while MMO is on the market..

Just sayin', so people don't get their hopes too high.

I have an Intel i5-2500K with a GTX560 and i still get performance issues. People running GTX780 in SLi have reported FPS issues. So NO, the issues aren't magically gonna be solved by buying an Intel CPU.

If you've bothered to read OP, you would see that his friend has the same setup, bar the CPU and has a lot better performance, especially in PVP. Also, I've mentioned Intel and good performance, not magically solving issues with Intel.

Your PC will most likely net you lag-free performance in massive fights due to still strong CPU, but you probably won't be able to crank graphic settings to ultra and have 90 FPS, due to your aging mid-low class GPU.

To refer to the rest of your post, SLI setups are usually never optimized in betas, but it always gets solved on time. It's completely different issue compared to MMO CPU dependence.

Herase · March 2014

At the risk off sounding like an idiot, trying to suggest something to people who know a lot more about pc than me lol. there was one setting that i noticed if you put at max will completely murk over your gameplay. Think it's FXAA, noticed both on mine and my mate pc. It make the quality look great, but fps drops so much

Nitth · March 2014

Originally posted by Herase
At the risk off sounding like an idiot, trying to suggest something to people who know a lot more about pc than me lol. there was one setting that i noticed if you put at max will completely murk over your gameplay. Think it's FXAA, noticed both on mine and my mate pc. It make the quality look great, but fps drops so much

Render Target.

DeniZg · March 2014

Originally posted by Nitth

Originally posted by Herase
At the risk off sounding like an idiot, trying to suggest something to people who know a lot more about pc than me lol. there was one setting that i noticed if you put at max will completely murk over your gameplay. Think it's FXAA, noticed both on mine and my mate pc. It make the quality look great, but fps drops so much

Render Target.

Yep. It will Increase or decrease internal resolution of your game, while keeping the UI intact.

Battlefield 4 has the same option, so you can make it look like Minecraft and play it on Pentium, or you could crank it up and make it look crazy sharp, while taking heavy hit to your PC performance.

skyline385 · March 2014

Originally posted by DeniZg
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by DeniZg
Originally posted by skyline385
Closed beta tester here.

The game is very poorly optimised. The optimisation patch for release is still probably in the works.

I've never experienced significant improvement from those "pre-launch optimization patches" in my 10 years of playing MMO's. If you want good MMO performance, buy strong Intel CPU. Or, keep hoping for optimization patches, which usually never come suddenly, but are slowly implemented in baby steps through couple of years while MMO is on the market..

Just sayin', so people don't get their hopes too high.

I have an Intel i5-2500K with a GTX560 and i still get performance issues. People running GTX780 in SLi have reported FPS issues. So NO, the issues aren't magically gonna be solved by buying an Intel CPU.

If you've bothered to read OP, you would see that his friend has the same setup, bar the CPU and has a lot better performance, especially in PVP. Also, I've mentioned Intel and good performance, not magically solving issues with Intel.

Your PC will most likely net you lag-free performance in massive fights due to still strong CPU, but you probably won't be able to crank graphic settings to ultra and have 90 FPS, due to your aging mid-low class GPU.

To refer to the rest of your post, SLI setups are usually never optimized in betas, but it always gets solved on time. It's completely different issue compared to MMO CPU dependence.

I read the OP but the point is, once the game is properly optimised, it's gonna be fine for OP.

Intel and AMD have inter compatibility issues but there is no way that it's gonna create that much of a difference that PvP is completely unplayable.

And SLI GTX780 was just an example. People with solo GPUs complain in all chat as well. The point was that the optimisation patch is coming.

And you don't need to explain about my setup to me. I know it well enough.

You are clearly over-exaggerating this. AMD CPUs are perfectly fine. In fact, AMD CPUs excel at multi-core processes more than Intel since the launch of the Bulldozer series. The only problem is that poorly optimised games rarely make use of it and single player console ports are optimised for 4 cores. But nonetheless, there is no disadvantage to a degree which you are claiming.

DeniZg · March 2014

Originally posted by skyline385
You are clearly over-exaggerating this. AMD CPUs are perfectly fine. In fact, AMD CPUs excel at multi-core processes more than Intel since the launch of the Bulldozer series. The only problem is that poorly optimised games rarely make use of it and single player console ports are optimised for 4 cores. But nonetheless, there is no disadvantage to a degree which you are claiming.

Well, if you've read my previous posts, I've said that my AMD is performing worse than my Intel, but nothing significant having in mind the price difference. So, no, I wouldn't say I was over-exaggerating, just being fair and realistic.

I agree with you that AMD CPU's are fine (I prefer AMD personally), but unfortunately, as you've already mentioned, games are rarely optimized properly for multi-core performance. Hopefully, this will change, but for now, Intel CPU's will outperform AMD due to optimization issues.

Siphaed · March 2014

Originally posted by MikeJezZ
I tried the Wildstar beta, and while having alot of fun, i cant make myself buy a game that doesnt support my hardware properly.

For some reason, my friend that has a identical machine aside from the CPU (same gigs, same gfx card etc), he can pull over 60 FPS, while I am bottled to 25 FPS when theres no one around, coming down to 8 FPS in battlegrounds.

I have tried checking software that could unlock all my cores at the same time, but for some reason, my cores never uses its full potential (I have 6 cores), so Wildstar wont use all the power my CPU has.

Anyone with AMD who has experience the same problems?

AMD Phenom II X6 1075T 3.4 Ghz

8 GB DDR3 RAM

Nvidia Geforcde 660 ti

Win 7 64 bit.

Let me explain something real quick:

All PC gaming, since the iteration of the Quad-Core CPU, has had poor performance on AMD CPU's.

Why is this? Because many/most PC games don't take advantage of multiple cores within the CPU and instead utilize single cores at a time; this in effect means that the individual core speed, not the effectiveness of all cores together, is what matters with the game. Intel cores are set up for high individual core speeds and work awesomely with games, however AMD's CPU's have poor individual core speeds/performance and thus aren't that great for games.

So what are AMD's good for? Well, video editing software, Photoshop, audio editing software, development software....basically anything that's more "work" performance and not game. If you want to game on a PC, you purchase an AMD. I know this from personal experience where I supported AMD for the better part of a decade after the Pentium 4 was my last Intel....before this new recent build with a Haswell, which is a huge jump up from my previous AMD Quad in game performance.

Aeonblades · March 2014

Want to game? Buy an Intel. Used AMD for over 10 years and after one purchase from Intel I can say I'll probably never go back to the nightmare that was AMD trying to be a gamer. I loved AMD for years, but the difference has been fairly large in terms of performance, power requirements, cooling, etc.

They just run games better, for less energy, and less heat. AMD is great for a budget system, but if you want a serious gaming PC in this day and age, you need Intel.

Malvious · March 2014

Originally posted by sisco1986
tellme 1 case (except wow maybe) where a amd processor works ok on a mmorpg

tera, gw2, aion, ffxiv, rift all of the mainstream mmorpgs now are crap on amd architecture, not even a fx9550 can match a 4 year old 2500k

amd cpus are garbage for mmorpgs

You are full of shit sir.

Bigdaddyx · March 2014

Where is Quizzical when you need him? too many arm chair PC expert spouting mis information around here.

Droosteel · March 2014

Originally posted by Siphaed
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
I tried the Wildstar beta, and while having alot of fun, i cant make myself buy a game that doesnt support my hardware properly.

For some reason, my friend that has a identical machine aside from the CPU (same gigs, same gfx card etc), he can pull over 60 FPS, while I am bottled to 25 FPS when theres no one around, coming down to 8 FPS in battlegrounds.

I have tried checking software that could unlock all my cores at the same time, but for some reason, my cores never uses its full potential (I have 6 cores), so Wildstar wont use all the power my CPU has.

Anyone with AMD who has experience the same problems?

AMD Phenom II X6 1075T 3.4 Ghz

8 GB DDR3 RAM

Nvidia Geforcde 660 ti

Win 7 64 bit.

Let me explain something real quick:

All PC gaming, since the iteration of the Quad-Core CPU, has had poor performance on AMD CPU's.

Why is this?   Because many/most PC games don't take advantage of multiple cores within the CPU and instead utilize single cores at a time; this in effect means that the individual core speed, not the effectiveness of all cores together, is what matters with the game.   Intel cores are set up for high individual core speeds and work awesomely with games, however AMD's CPU's have poor individual core speeds/performance and thus aren't that great for games.

So what are AMD's good for?     Well, video editing software, Photoshop, audio editing software, development software....basically anything that's more "work" performance and not game.   If you want to game on a PC, you purchase an AMD. I know this from personal experience where I supported AMD for the better part of a decade after the Pentium 4 was my last Intel....before this new recent build with a Haswell, which is a huge jump up from my previous AMD Quad in game performance.

Sure bro

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_a10_7850k_apu_review,16.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_a10_6800k_review_apu,18.html

Buying Intel for gaming is throwing away the money, youre much better off getting better gtaphic card/sli/cross fire

Theres very easy way to test whats the problem:

crank up graphichs to max

then crank it down to minimum

if theres no/low difference in FPS game engine sucks and nothing will help, if theres big difference you need better graphic card.

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