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Why did you leave your old mmo, and still want an old-school mmo?
Dzone
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I've been seeing on these forums ppl wanting games like there old ones used to be. It got me wondering why people left there eq, asherins call, Daoc, ulitma online type of game to begin with.
I used to play ffxi for around 2/3 years. The reason I quit that was because while doing a tier 4 znm my computer rebooted on me and never could load windows again. It ended up taking 3 months to get it fixed, and they formatted my hard drive and I never took the time to reinstall the game and update it. Aventually though I did do back to it a year later, but all I did was fish and got burned out on it. I ended up just playing a slew of other mmo's since then and never could really stick wiith one until ffxivarr.
So what were ya's reason for leaving that old-school mmo to begin with, only to find a new one?
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I left Ultima Online because I was frustrated and being killed and having everything stolen from me.
I left EVerquest because I burned out after a few years of playing. I needed time to recharge my batteries and World of Warcraft was a lot less of an energy drain being a lot simpler and less time consuming.
In WoW I burnt out on questing and instanced dungeons.
Now that my batteries are recharged I think I may be ready for another EQ type game again. I haven't played many MMOs since WoW which was around 7 or 8 years ago I'd venture to say. I've tried a few, but not for very long as I didn't like any of them.
I was playing UO when they implemented Trammel. I was pretty young and didn't have the same strong feelings about it then as I do now, but I still ended up quitting because of it. And now when I play UO, it's on private pre-trammel servers. Aside from that I don't really have any "oldschool" games that I used to play but now don't.
Games I didn't really play but would've:
SWG. Closed down now so that's not an option. Though The Repopulation looks amazing and I intend on playing that, which is very similar to SWG.
FFX1. I played it a LITTLE bit with my friends (who played it years ago) and liked it. We ended up quitting though because apparently the game has changed quite a bit for the worse.
Darkfall 1. I followed it for years while it was in development. When it was released, I didn't have a good enough computer to play it. When I did have a good enough computer, I couldn't get any of my friends to play. I'm now playing Darkfall 2 (Darkfall Unholy Wars) and loving it, even though content-wise it's taken a few steps back from where the original was.
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Do you like any new school MMO's? I've seen you mention EVE (old school), but what sort of games do you like?
Back on topic, I enjoyed DAOC, left because they changed it into something else entirely.
I spent most of last year playing on a freeshard that had it's ruleset back to 2003, pre-TOA, heck it was pre-SI.
I'd still be playing there if they hadn't shut it down so they could reboot it with a SI build that they couldn't pull off.
So yeah, give me DAOC 2, or EVE in a fantasy universe and I'm there.
Speaking of which, I'm still playing EVE, coming up on almost 5 years of sub time (not continuous) going back to 2007, and likely the MMO I'll always come back to. (because they never seem to mess with the core game play)
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Isn't Elder Scrolls Online DOAC2 in a fantasy universe? That's what I've heard, but DAOC is the only old school MMO I never played. I played ESO in beta and despite the good graphics I didn't like it that much.
Direction it took. They modernized it so much, they pushed me out of the target demographics.
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UO: Left to play EQ was burned out after playing 2 years.
EQ: Left to play SWG after 4 years of playing.
SWG: Left because of NGE enough said. My favortie MMO along with Wow up to TBC.
WOW: Loved Wow unto WOTLK and the direction they went. To name a few AOE dungeon runs, Account gear, Xserver, etc...
I have been looking ever since.
i enjoyed FFXI but due to a lack of other Oceanic players as an MMO it going boring very quickly
WoW - during WOTLK when they started rolling out group finder and dumbing content down so it was just a cake walk - i still hung around until Cata stopped playing due to having my class go from being perfectly fine to being treated as trash for 8 months into the expansion. Came back for Panda time but in the end grew bored of the same thing. Only reason i think i stayed for so long was the community - had a very tight knit group of people that have become very good IRL friends.
Most other MMO's i've played i've not stuck around due to not finding the right community / guild of people to roll with. That Changed after i came back to GW2 but that is another matter all together.
Its hard when you want to try something new, that could work for you and group of friends / guildies but they are not interested in leaving the safe world of warcraft.
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Asheron's Call : Left because they started to focus too much on daily's and the adventure turned to grinding.
Dark age of Camelot: one word. ToA (to non daoc'ers, ToA was an expansion that got rid of the orignal pvp frontier lands and put in an all new "revamped" frontier land that SUCKED balls, and it got way to gear grindy with artifacts). It was the absolute perfect game, and they removed the greatest aspect of the game. Emain Macha (zone, that everyone loved) to this day, I still get chills when I think about the original Emain.
WoW: Wrath was decent, but everything that sucked in wrath they multiplied it by 50 in cata. Became a click to grp game that lost all of the magic it had in vanilla. Not social anymore, and the game felt like it was spoon feeding players. Exciting times like fighting in south shore, or forming a raid for UBERS and molten core, BY HAND.... were gone. Click to group ruined the social aspect. no one’s reputations mattered.
so I guess my answer is direction
The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.
The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, solo Questing, Cut-Scenes...
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Left FoT due to my career demands.
Left EQ a little after Kunark because of direction - they started overcomplicating things and directing player focus onto "pimping" my character versus just letting us enjoy the world that was built.
Left WoW due to the direction - After Vanilla it was no longer about seeing the world, but about gear progression. Tried it again for a few months and found it had improved a little during WotLK with good instance usage, but they once again pushed towards just everyone being at end game.
Left AO due to work and was just didn't have time. When I went back to it, couldn't get over the outdated engine and graphics. The gameplay wasn't good enough to make up for the lack of visual appeal.
Tried GW2, AoC, and a host of others. Nothing had the same "hook" as EQ and Vanilla WoW. There was no longer a focus on community gaming, everyone was focused on soloing and gear grinding.
Eve, hooked me and then lost me because I don't have time for another job.
After the last beta, I'll be in and out of ESO for a little while most likely. They fixed most of the big issues I had against the game (combat and responsiveness). I enjoy the lore. Still a lot for them to fix, and if they do then it will most likely be my go to game for awhile.
Haven't had the chance to try Wildstar or AA, but it's theme is not my thing. I may try Elite or Star Citizen but I don't really get immersed in that type of game.
Started to play EVE in 2007, I quit because I couldnt stand its slow combat...
- back to EVE, then quit due to its slow combat
- back to EVE, then quit due to its slow combat
- back to EVE, then quit due to its slow combat
- back to EVE, then quit due to its slow combat
Its going like that since 2007, I just cant stand that slow combat.
Waiting for something similar, with better combat.
I don't want the game I used to play, I want the game I imagined the game I used to play would evolve into.
I've left games, in part, because I could see they would never get there (business reasons, community reasons, technical reasons).
It's like you're saying the things that I have rattling around in my head!
To be fair, I can accept a lot of "well, it's not my game so I don't have a say" but my game of choice was lineage 2.
Other than technical issues that make the game beyond laggy (for some odd reason) I don't like where it went though I'm told that the developers decided to "take it back".
Having said that, i once had a conversation with one of the head gm's who told me that the way it was developed was that people would work on things then pitch them and if people thought that it was good they would implement them.
That's such the antithesis of what I think good design is about.
Who knows, if I can solve my technical issues I might go back though I don't know if I have the stomach for making money in that game which I never had the stomach for.
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Left UO for EQ (nothing against UO)
Left EQ for DAoC (tested it for a bit in beta and knew that was THE game for me, frontier madness and all, nothing against EQ)
Left DAoC because the expansions ruined what I liked about RvR and the BGs, also because the community degenerated more and more into an ePeen fest. (which was to be expected, but still sad)
Well, I'm playing ESO in hopes that it might be. But there' some notable differences of course, so we'll see how it goes.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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WoW: Got tired of the gear treadmill and sick of the nerf to alterac valley. Tired of the community.
GW2: play a bit from Time to time. Events get boring.
FFXIV: plays too much like Wow. Blatant rehash of primal fights ( three of each). Tacked on pop with no diminishing returns. Black mages can spam sleep. World too small. Destroyed economy by devs. Crafting totally useless. And other stuff.
I have just found myself Going back and playing console games now. MMO's have left a bad taste for now.
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Main reason would be various changes to the game.
Everquest: Started playing in Kunark expansion and really like it then, didn't really care for Velious, Plane of Power, or Gates of Discord. Each expansion made the game more difficult. There is a fine line between making a game challenging and being punishing. The whole "Sleeper" incident also left a bad taste in the mouth. Gates of Discord was the final straw though.
Lineage 2: Grind at high level become unbearable. Also botting ruined the economy.
Star Wars Galaxies: First the CU and then the NGE completely changed the game. It was fun while it lasted though.
Everquest 2: Not all the changes were bad but the direction the game took after 2010 was just not to my liking. There was too much mudflation and gear treadmill. Basically the game become a bad WoW clone. When my class got nerfed I quit for good.
Vindictus: Although I still play this game everyday the coming changes don't look good. I will probably quit when they remove jumping which is a patch already released in Korea.
Conclusion and message to developers. Do NOT alienate your core player base. Looking at the poll results I am not alone in quitting over a direction change in the game's development.
-First old MMO :
the grind at high level take too long so take a break for while
Back but bots ruin economy , everything become expensive and game change a lots so move to the next.
-Next old MMO :
Play for while until latter expansions change the game in worst way.
-Next new MMO :
Quest hubs , fun at first , finish gears treadmill end game but feel so empty after finish the game. Left it
-Next new MMO :
Quest hubs again , tired of it , hit max level and don't want to run gears treadmill again. Left it
-Next new MMO :
Quest hubs again , ENOUGH !! , ready know what endgame mean so it don't even interest to keep level up . Left it
Compare to the new , the old feel better so still want old style MMORPGs.But can't back to the old MMORPGss because the expansions ready ruin them .
Current : DOTA and LOL with my friends or with some AI battle to kill time.
Sometime try new MMORPG but give up after see the quest hubs.
And though the old MMORPGs are good , but they still have some flaw so i want better old style MMORPGs that able to fix all the flaw of early games.
Major reason left old game : EXPANSION packs , instead make game better , they ruin it .
Doing the same things with the same people in the same places all the time eventually loses appeal. Marriage being the only exception*
*as a married man, I am obliged to say that
I used to play this sandboxy MMORPG and Didn't like the direction it took.
First their mastermind dev was removed to their other project.
Then someone who had noidea how to run sandbox MMO took control
-extreme dumbing down,daily quests for example in sandbox MMO,daily quests that gives insta lvls,rare items became trash items ,droprates raised 1000000 times .unique mob spawntimes changed from hours to minutes etc etc etc.......
-ultimate pay to win cash shop added ,imagine that with sub,Yesdrop items which sells for hundreds of millions in game,imagine that in sandboxy rpg and thousands of other things.
* it was time to move on and fast.
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GL.
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As another married man, i am obliged to agree.
But national statistics seem to indicate otherwise.