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who thinks star citizen will be a beast?

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by Colt47

    Do you have any concept of the scope of this project?

    Unfortunately I do. They showed nothing more than anyone can achieve with CryEngine SDK...youtube is full of such videos.

    All they are delivering are promises, heap after heap.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by grndzroName another AAA MMO that has shown this kind of progress in that timeframe.....none.

    What progress you talk about?

    Setup an office, purchase an engine and make couple videos? Biggest startup ever..?

    There is no open book. You have no idea what is happening in their office nor you have any insight into a development process. You are just fed with whatever Roberts says, regardless of actual state of the things.

    You have no idea how far they are from delivering anything of what they promise, or even if it will be implemented at all. And even then, it matters how it is actually implemented, it can be still miles away from how they portray it now.

  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503
    If it will be a beast!! It will be a dodo! hehe

  • Colt47Colt47 Member UncommonPosts: 549
    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by Colt47

    Do you have any concept of the scope of this project?

     

    Unfortunately I do. They showed nothing more than anyone can achieve with CryEngine SDK...youtube is full of such videos.

    All they are delivering are promises, heap after heap.

    You could have just said you don't know.   Look, if you want to criticize the project, at least watch their development videos or read into the interviews they have been releasing.  It seems pretty obvious you've only seen trailers at this point or something.  Otherwise this is just airing ones baseless doubts on the net and there isn't a point to the conversation.

  • grndzrogrndzro Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by grndzro

     

    Name another AAA MMO that has shown this kind of progress in that timeframe.....none.


     

    What progress you talk about?

    Setup an office, purchase an engine and make couple videos? Biggest startup ever..?

    How about hire over 200 people. Set up departments that work together. Completely modify the Cryengine so successfully that Crytek actually rolls it into their next release, mantle included. Build a sound development studio complete with orchestrated music. Set up fan contests like TNGS. Show and use all the latest game development technology. Real actor facial and movement modeling. VR support. AI from one of the best AI developers there is.

    There is no open book. You have no idea what is happening in their office nor you have any insight into a development process. You are just fed with whatever Roberts says, regardless of actual state of the things.

    You obviously did not watch all the released content available.

    You have no idea how far they are from delivering anything of what they promise, or even if it will be implemented at all. And even then, it matters how it is actually implemented, it can be still miles away from how they portray it now.

    I never said I did. Show me where I said that.

     

     

  • PortzeRkkkPortzeRkkk Member Posts: 2
    I wonder , if there will be a chance to arrive to any planet?Or its only cosmos based game where you are captain of a ship.
  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Originally posted by PortzeRkkk
    I wonder , if there will be a chance to arrive to any planet?Or its only cosmos based game where you are captain of a ship.

     

    There will be a planetary side to the game with starports and archaeological sites.

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197

    Could someone please show me a video of this amazing game that's going to blow EvE out of the water?

    I don't mind if it's in progress.. just something that shows potential other than words from the developers mouth.

    I saw the dogfighting video and it looks horrendous ;/

    Also, how will their engine work with thousands of players in one battle?.. if that's not possible, then why are you even talking about competing with EvE?

    ..Cake..

  • grndzrogrndzro Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    Originally posted by sgel

    Could someone please show me a video of this amazing game that's going to blow EvE out of the water?

    I don't mind if it's in progress.. just something that shows potential other than words from the developers mouth.

    I saw the dogfighting video and it looks horrendous ;/

    Also, how will their engine work with thousands of players in one battle?.. if that's not possible, then why are you even talking about competing with EvE?

    Lol obvious troll.....

  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197

    I'm not trolling. Just link something.

    ..Cake..

  • grndzrogrndzro Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    Originally posted by sgel

    I'm not trolling. Just link something.

    Really....how many of your last 30 posts had anything good to say about any game other than Eve.

    There is the internet you know. and this site called youtube.

  • Axllow18Axllow18 Member UncommonPosts: 400

    For those who haven't been keeping up with what is going on with the game:

    >Click This<

     

    I hope that helps.

  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197
    Originally posted by grndzro
    Originally posted by sgel

    I'm not trolling. Just link something.

    Really....how many of your last 30 posts had anything good to say about any game other than Eve.

    There is the internet you know. and this site called youtube.

    I don't just play EvE... I'd welcome any good game that fits my tasting buds.

    Instead of pointing to Youtube, please show me a video that shows the potential of the game. I simply can't find one... which doesn't mean there isn't one out there... hence why I'm asking.

    Also how will the CryEngine cope with thousands of players in one battle? You never answered that.

    ..Cake..

  • grndzrogrndzro Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    Originally posted by sgel
    Originally posted by grndzro
    Originally posted by sgel

    I'm not trolling. Just link something.

    Really....how many of your last 30 posts had anything good to say about any game other than Eve.

    There is the internet you know. and this site called youtube.

    I don't just play EvE... I'd welcome any good game that fits my tasting buds.

    Instead of pointing to Youtube, please show me a video that shows the potential of the game. I simply can't find one... which doesn't mean there isn't one out there... hence why I'm asking.

    Also how will the CryEngine cope with thousands of players in one battle? You never answered that.

    The game isn't even in Alpha yet
    Cryengine will have Mantle and the new Nvidia OGL extensions that will make it equivalent to DX12. That gives it a much higher capability than other engines. The scope of battle will not be thousands of players, at least not initially.

    It is a Flight sim model. It can't really be compared to EvE

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by Colt47

    If you think that pushing back deadlines is cause for doubting the quality of the work going into the game, you haven't the foggiest how the software industry works.   More money does not equate faster production time: It means they have more time to get things done right.

    Inability to meet deadlines is indeed a solid reason for doubts as it means big resources waste, and in that case, more money only means the develoment is more expensive and/or some features will likey won't make it into release.

  • KuinnKuinn Member UncommonPosts: 2,072

    If this game will have the features that it has on paper, it will be huge. It's pointless to argue if the game will be only promises or if it will truly be the epic it aims to be, only time will tell that, none of us are far seers able to see into future. Sure it could flop, or not, pointless to toss around guesses at this point.

     

    I'll stay optimistic meanwhile, too much whining and doomsaying already.

  • grndzrogrndzro Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    Originally posted by Gdemami

    Inability to meet deadlines is indeed a solid reason for doubts as it means big resources waste, and in that case, more money only means the develoment is more expensive and/or some features will likey won't make it into release.

    ^^

    Professional Troll take notes.

  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197
    Originally posted by grndzro
    Originally posted by sgel
    Originally posted by grndzro
    Originally posted by sgel

    I'm not trolling. Just link something.

    Really....how many of your last 30 posts had anything good to say about any game other than Eve.

    There is the internet you know. and this site called youtube.

    I don't just play EvE... I'd welcome any good game that fits my tasting buds.

    Instead of pointing to Youtube, please show me a video that shows the potential of the game. I simply can't find one... which doesn't mean there isn't one out there... hence why I'm asking.

    Also how will the CryEngine cope with thousands of players in one battle? You never answered that.

    The game isn't even in Alpha yet
    Cryengine will have Mantle and the new Nvidia OGL extensions that will make it equivalent to DX12. That gives it a much higher capability than other engines. The scope of battle will not be thousands of players, at least not initially.

    It is a Flight sim model. It can't really be compared to EvE

    I agree that they can't really be compared.

    One is an established 10year old game that's still evolving... the other is in alpha with hardly any footage shown.

    They're also completely different games that just happen to be in space... yet people still try to compare them. I was trying to point to the fallacy in doing so.

    As far as the engine is concerned, I'm sure CryEngine and those extensions will make it look very pretty... but I'm more interested in how epic the battles feel. It seems to me they're going to be using heavy instancing which kind of removes that epic feel alltogether.  Anyway.. thanks for the info.

    ..Cake..

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by grndzro

    You obviously did not watch all the released content available.

    I did, but there is no "content" to speak of, nor any worthy information, all is vague, general talk and marketing fluff.

    Prime example is the Mooncolider video - no details, all they say is that they are working on AI. Well, all game devs work an AI...

  • grndzrogrndzro Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by grndzro

    You obviously did not watch all the released content available.

     

    I did, but there is no "content" to speak of, nor any worthy information, all is vague, general talk and marketing fluff.

    Prime example is the Mooncolider video - no details, all they say is that they are working on AI. Well, all game devs work an AI...

     

    Why in the bloody hell are you bitching about a game not even in Alpha yet......

  • MaquiameMaquiame Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
    I have a funny feeling that Elite will be better than Star Citizen

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    Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  • DocBrodyDocBrody Member UncommonPosts: 1,926
    Originally posted by Maquiame
    I have a funny feeling that Elite will be better than Star Citizen

    alright, exactly, the title which release is almost half a year overdue and wants 400$ for a buggy incomplete alpha..................LOL.

    with 10% of the budget of Star Citizen............................ LOL.

    Total fail, they didn´t just miss some milestone but the whole release date.

    Just stay with Eve, please. No one will harm your title.

  • free2playfree2play Member UncommonPosts: 2,043
    Originally posted by sgel
    Originally posted by grndzro
    Originally posted by sgel
    Originally posted by grndzro
    Originally posted by sgel

    I'm not trolling. Just link something.

    Really....how many of your last 30 posts had anything good to say about any game other than Eve.

    There is the internet you know. and this site called youtube.

    I don't just play EvE... I'd welcome any good game that fits my tasting buds.

    Instead of pointing to Youtube, please show me a video that shows the potential of the game. I simply can't find one... which doesn't mean there isn't one out there... hence why I'm asking.

    Also how will the CryEngine cope with thousands of players in one battle? You never answered that.

    The game isn't even in Alpha yet
    Cryengine will have Mantle and the new Nvidia OGL extensions that will make it equivalent to DX12. That gives it a much higher capability than other engines. The scope of battle will not be thousands of players, at least not initially.

    It is a Flight sim model. It can't really be compared to EvE

    I agree that they can't really be compared.

    One is an established 10year old game that's still evolving... the other is in alpha with hardly any footage shown.

    They're also completely different games that just happen to be in space... yet people still try to compare them. I was trying to point to the fallacy in doing so.

    As far as the engine is concerned, I'm sure CryEngine and those extensions will make it look very pretty... but I'm more interested in how epic the battles feel. It seems to me they're going to be using heavy instancing which kind of removes that epic feel alltogether.  Anyway.. thanks for the info.

    So if you agree, why did you open with 'Show me the game that will blow EVE out of the water'?

    I played EVE for 8 years as well, so I do understand the EVE gamer. We go in swinging but bringing my NBSI mindset to forums seldom accomplishes much.

  • DocBrodyDocBrody Member UncommonPosts: 1,926
    Originally posted by free2play
    Originally posted by sgel
    Originally posted by grndzro
    Originally posted by sgel
    Originally posted by grndzro
    Originally posted by sgel

    I'm not trolling. Just link something.

    Really....how many of your last 30 posts had anything good to say about any game other than Eve.

    There is the internet you know. and this site called youtube.

    I don't just play EvE... I'd welcome any good game that fits my tasting buds.

    Instead of pointing to Youtube, please show me a video that shows the potential of the game. I simply can't find one... which doesn't mean there isn't one out there... hence why I'm asking.

    Also how will the CryEngine cope with thousands of players in one battle? You never answered that.

    The game isn't even in Alpha yet
    Cryengine will have Mantle and the new Nvidia OGL extensions that will make it equivalent to DX12. That gives it a much higher capability than other engines. The scope of battle will not be thousands of players, at least not initially.

    It is a Flight sim model. It can't really be compared to EvE

    I agree that they can't really be compared.

    One is an established 10year old game that's still evolving... the other is in alpha with hardly any footage shown.

    They're also completely different games that just happen to be in space... yet people still try to compare them. I was trying to point to the fallacy in doing so.

    As far as the engine is concerned, I'm sure CryEngine and those extensions will make it look very pretty... but I'm more interested in how epic the battles feel. It seems to me they're going to be using heavy instancing which kind of removes that epic feel alltogether.  Anyway.. thanks for the info.

    So if you agree, why did you open with 'Show me the game that will blow EVE out of the water'?

    I played EVE for 8 years as well, so I do understand the EVE gamer. We go in swinging but bringing my NBSI mindset to forums seldom accomplishes much.

    how can SC blow Eve out of the water when both are different genres.

    SC = action packed space sim

    EvE= more a space RTS

  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,502
    Originally posted by DocBrody
    Originally posted by Maquiame
    I have a funny feeling that Elite will be better than Star Citizen

    alright, exactly, the title which release is almost half a year overdue and wants 400$ for a buggy incomplete alpha..................LOL.

    with 10% of the budget of Star Citizen............................ LOL.

    Total fail, they didn´t just miss some milestone but the whole release date.

    Just stay with Eve, please. No one will harm your title.

     

    Now now, no need to stretch the truth.

    $320 for alpha, that includes all alpha/beta/gammas, main game and all expansions etc etc

    10% of community raised funding, frontier have a large amount of funding from investors.

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