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you guys need to see this.. holy crap i didnt know that.
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At launch or 6/7 years down the road? Just wondering.
Oh I agree, it should be $1 dollar like all the subscription based MMOs do it. Not $15.
I came into WOW during Lich King.
Thanks for the reply. When I first started playing (Post Launch but Pre-Burning Crusade) it required it. Thing definitely could change over a few years.
Pro-tip: If it is actually important to you financially that a company is pre-authorizing $15 on your account, you really need to re-consider your life choices. Time to stop bitching about games and go find a job.
In b4 "it's the principal" argument.
Dude you are so missing the point of Teala original post. There is a difference between validation of a credit card and holding the full amount of a subscription price regardless of how long it is. Just say you have a low amount of money in your account and you missed a bill and need that money toward your bill yet because of this hold you cannot touch that money. This means the money in a sense is charged towards your account. The proper thing for this company to do in regards to validation was to charge only a dollar to validate a card holder and not to do anything for those who uses game cards.
Now I dare you all who believe that if other companies did this try to explain how they supposed to have charged people who used game cards. After all you have a person who pays for a retail price on a game. So he bring it home only to find out he has to use a game card because he doesn't have a credit card. So is this person suppose to now go to a store just to buy another item just to play a game he may or may not want to play after the 30 days are up? No.
Even with this being said this is beginning to really sound like "false advertising". There requirements only says: 30 DAYS UNLIMITED GAME PLAY INCLUDED WITH PURCHASE OF GAME. VALID PAYMENT METHOD OR PAID GAME TIME CARD FOR SUBSCRIPTION AND PERSISTENT INTERNET CONNECTION REQUIRED.
Valid payment method only means that you must have a valid credit card and to check to see if you have a "valid card" only means a ping of that account would be $1 at best. Having a credit card without having the full amount of the game charge for the following month after the free period does not make the card invalid, it only makes the card valid but without funds.
That wasn't Teala's point, she said she hasn't heard of anyone touching the CC before the free month. Which is wrong. Not only did WoW do it, almost every single subscription based MMO has done it. If your argument is you should do $1 dollar instead of $15 I agree with you. But if you argument is "game" companies don't touch the CC before the free month is up, you are wrong.
So people who arent great with budgeting should all be punished...Ya great life lesson there.
This exactly.......
there is a £1 pre auth charge that we are all used to and there is flat out ripping the piss out of your customers. Guess which ZOS are doing?
Basically unless you have the price of the game PLUS the price of the sub for month two spare at the time of purchase you cannot access the game. That is NOT what was advertised by ZOS.
Uninformed people who do not enjoy the game will bitch and moan about anything that possibly enforces their cause, without reading what they are doing.
Its a pre-authorization, nothing more. Almost every single mmorpg with a sub has done this. THIS IS NOTHING NEW.
Jesus people....learn to read before you whine.
Bank of America does a $1 pre authorization at gas stations. I could show you my bank statement but it wouldnt sway you anyways.
SWG, EQ2, WAR, SWTOR, AOC, LOTR all had pre-authorizations when you pick up your free 30days free. Only 1 that didn't was EVE.
Best and most logical post in this thread.
Thank you sir!
$15 can buy you 15 packs of ramen.
That's 7-15 days of food.
Wow, yes you are uninformed.
no MMO has EVER charged a pre auth of 14.99 THAT is the point.
Unless you have game price PLUS 14.99 spare at the time of purchase you cannot access the game. That is not what was advertised and is NOT the amount that any other MMO has EVER charged as a pre auth....ever.
I miss college........
I'm in my junior year atm
I learn to budget with my food though 
Yes YOU are uninformed. THEY DO NOT CHARGE YOU $15 DOLLARS! ITS A PRE AUTHORIZATION. It does NOT come out of your account until your 30 days are up.
If you cancel prior YOU LOSE NOTHING. If you continue your sub you PAY $15....
I understand whole heartedly. In college my game of choice was Diablo...good times........
The money is held for a few days without the ability to spend it...what are you not getting? They already said they didnt intend for that to happen and tried fixing it but it never got fixed for some.
No, I think you are wrong or maybe things are just differently where you are. I've played all those games and never had a pre-auth on any of them. And I go over my finances on a regular basis, so I definitely would have seen it if it was there. The same thing goes for gas stations as you mentioned previously. None in my state, except the ones trying to rip you off, would dare try this. Mine only ever shows the pending charge in the exact amount Im purchasing. So please stop stating things as fact. Maybe in your state, (i cant presume to know how things are done in your state just like you shouldnt presume in mine) or maybe it's just the card you're using, in which case I would switch to another card company.
The only time I deal with pre-auth is in dealing with restaurant, hotel, or other travel reservations. It may seem like people are complaining over nothing to you (I admit that I'm not playing the game and so don't have the problem), but pre-auth does block you from touching those funds while in place and may hold for some business days even after the charge is reversed (especially if it occurs over a weekend), and can potentially cause overdraft problems due to it especially if you weren't expecting it. ( I once experienced this in the past over a $150 restaurant reservation that lingered for a few days due to being placed on a weekend/non-business day even though the restaurant bill itself was settled that same day in cash.)
Its held and returned. Nothing lost.
IF you cannot afford $15 to be held for a couple of days, you definitely cant afford a sub + $60 for base game. This is the funny part of the whining.
Yeah and you know how tight money is while in college. I'm working part time and games are expensive these days, being $60 a pop. Still trying to figure out if ESO is really worth it. I might just wait for it to go on sale though.
I was reading that thread at the ESO forums and from what i saw it isn't just a pre-auth for some people , some people actually got fully billed for a month or three months or whatever they signed up for with a sub.
And yes pre-auths are quite common on gas stations if you pay with your card at the pump and there is no actual service center that takes your payment, but they only do pre-auths and hold everywhere from 450,- to 900,- DKK in Denmark, Shell is the thief here holding onto 900,- dkk from people's bank , i mean my car probally has one of the biggest gas tanks and i can't tank for no more than perhaps 700,- dkk if im running on fumes.
And the only pre-auths i've seen on my bank account has been from paypal who holds 1,- dkk which is like 20$ cents or so
List of SOE lies
At least you seem to have your head on your shoulders properly. Kudos for you. The fact you are thinking this out and didnt go blindly raging on a forum thread shows you are actually using your head.
I wish you all the best in college and nothing but prosperity in your future.
Thanks! I appreciate! Also if ESO does take awhile to go on sale it doesn't matter because by than they will have more content and lot's of bug fixes. So there is always a benefit to waiting.