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ESO fails on Guild Stores!

KnotwoodKnotwood Member CommonPosts: 1,103

I woke up today and after not seeing much being said or done about the fees about the Guildstores, decided it was high time for someone to say something about them.   

 

Not only do we find 25% fee a ridiculous amount to post to the Guildstore,  We CANNOT ADJUST THE PRICE AFTERWARDS!

 

That's right, we cannot adjust the price of your item after you post it,  YOU HAVE TO CANCEL IT!  IF YOU WANT TO ADJUST PRICES!!!!  This causes double fees and hurts the Guild Store from being used.  Many are now turning to websites now...

 

As a person who has three full 500 guilds working on a forth.   I see a lot of people who post their stuff up for decent prices, only to find out they have overpriced their items in the Guild Store,  Then have to take off their items and repost them  FOR AN ADDITIONAL 25% FEE, paying 50% FEE if they have to repost JUST TO ADJUST THE PRICE!!!!!

 

We are MAD AS HELL, and WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!   What say you all?  Are you with me?

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  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534

    pfffff... next cry post. world is a better place now... totaly.

     

    voted #4: couldn't care less.

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  • LeiloniLeiloni Member RarePosts: 1,266
    FYI, it's I couldn't care less. If you could care less than you do actually care.
  • KnotwoodKnotwood Member CommonPosts: 1,103
    Originally posted by Leiloni
    FYI, it's I couldn't care less. If you could care less than you do actually care.

    Well excuse me,  I care because I have 500 members in my Guild Store guild and do not like seeing them all lose money because of adjustments.   Its a guild masters job to make sure this issue is raised.

  • Don-QuixoteDon-Quixote Member Posts: 87
    Originally posted by Knotwood
    Originally posted by Leiloni
    FYI, it's I couldn't care less. If you could care less than you do actually care.

    Well excuse me,  I care because I have 500 members in my Guild Store guild and do not like seeing them all lose money because of adjustments.   Its a guild masters job to make sure this issue is raised.

    Leiloni doesn't imply YOU - Knotwood - did not care. Rather that the expression is "I couldn't care less", which means that I do not care at all. If you care so little that you cannot care any less you wouldn't say "I can care less". Instead you would say "I can't care less".

    So, the options for your poll should be:

    - Yes

    - No

    - I couldn't care less.

     

    Although Pinker argues that the "I could care less" is a sarcastic idiom which is useful when spoken but not written.

  • theoldgods666theoldgods666 Member Posts: 34
    I don't even know what the op is talking about. Don't have the game. Just came here to seek and gather information about the game. The opinions are very mixed I must say. 
  • SmoeySmoey Member UncommonPosts: 601

    Seriously where the hell are all of these... people... coming from?

    I've been here since 2005 and I'm sure that the average IQ of the user today has fallen drastically even with all of the online educational resources. 

    Clearly the system needs work but will we as a collective not stand for this? Who cares? it's a money control system forcing you to pay to list and it's a good one at that. Increase it for all I care, if you do not like it simply sell by shouting.

    No one is forcing you to pay anything.

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  • PyatraPyatra Member Posts: 644
    Fees are fine, needs better search options or sorting... that is all.
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    Nope, no change needed on the fees. Once people realise that it costs money to respond to undercutting, they may be a little bit more realistic in their initial pricing.

    The whole idea behind the 15% "listing fee" is to discourage frequent price changes and "speculative" pricing. The fee is actually refunded when the item sells, but ONLY if it sells. If you cancel the sale, you lose that listing fee.

  • dxsaoshidxsaoshi Member Posts: 18
    Just go online and post your stuff. I hope Zeni doesn't fix this so we can all do what PoE did and use a convenient website like poe.xyz with a search engine to buy everything instead of this complicated mess.
  • FearumFearum Member UncommonPosts: 1,175
    Your guildies need to stop over charging or do some research on the prices before posting them. Sounds like you're mad because they have to do some work instead of mindlessly throwing crap on at random prices and forgetting about them like in any other auction house game.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    I put "I couldn't care less" because I  couldn't care less.
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  • KnotwoodKnotwood Member CommonPosts: 1,103
    Originally posted by dxsaoshi
    Just go online and post your stuff. I hope Zeni doesn't fix this so we can all do what PoE did and use a convenient website like poe.xyz with a search engine to buy everything instead of this complicated mess.

    The problem with this is that it makes guildstores worthless,  why even have a trade guild if everything should be done online.  Also using third party websites increases the chance for a keylogger,  that's not very smart of them to force us to a website instead of in game options which are community based such as trade guilds.

  • doragon86doragon86 Member UncommonPosts: 589
    I just want a damn auction house. Would make life easier finding good prices. I'm sure eventually some auction house websites will pop up, but nonetheless, would prefer a solid in-game one.  Anyways, I could care less about the fee, as there is little point to putting stuff in the guild store, as it's rather difficult to find what you need on it due to the lack luster search filter. 

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  • zevianzevian Member UncommonPosts: 403
    I voted yes OP, merely because you seem so passionate about this issue.
  • BetaBlockaBetaBlocka Member Posts: 222
    Originally posted by theoldgods666
    I don't even know what the op is talking about. Don't have the game. Just came here to seek and gather information about the game. The opinions are very mixed I must say. 

    Agreed, I'm mainly on this site for the WS forum (and now The Repop too!!) but I come in here to check out info on ESO and every time I do the game seems to lurch from one PR disaster to another.

     

    I was curious as to why none of my friends, family, peers or gaming buddies were even talking about this game and now it seems I can understand why....

     

    Glad I avoided this one and waiting for WS :)

  • rafalex007rafalex007 Member Posts: 244

    no its not a problem never was it was always the same so no'

     

     

    but if the fees are hight that might be a LITTLE problem

  • MerklynnMerklynn Member UncommonPosts: 100
    A week or two ago I read someone was upset by the fees as well so you're not the first. Even if an auction house existed there'd be fees especially if you thought you could just keep removing items to repost them cheaper without a charge. Granted these are Guild Shops and not an AH. I'd like to simply repost for say a 10% fee which would seem a fair compromise or perhaps a reduction in initial fees to 15% then if you relist the 10%. Either way if players feel ESO needs to be tweaked here & there you should keep up the good fight until something changes.
  • Swids2010Swids2010 Member Posts: 244
    The guilds stores for me are another feature in the game that seams half baked little thought put into it and thrown in at last minute just another feature in the game that reminds me how amateur the development team were behind this game.

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  • Sk1ppeRSk1ppeR Member Posts: 511
    Originally posted by doragon86
    I just want a damn auction house. Would make life easier finding good prices. I'm sure eventually some auction house websites will pop up, but nonetheless, would prefer a solid in-game one.  Anyways, I could care less about the fee, as there is little point to putting stuff in the guild store, as it's rather difficult to find what you need on it due to the lack luster search filter. 

    There are people that don't play the games but play the auction houses, inflating prices month after month. As a Gw2 player, I don't think auction houses are so great. 

  • TyserieTyserie Member UncommonPosts: 155
    Adjust price after posting would be nice. But I think, I did never see such possibility in other MMOs. Its always like, you did post, you can't change it. In some games you cant even cancel it when its for example 10 min later the post was done. So, it seems ok to me. Sure they are loosing money, its business.
  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
    The game has more basic issues than fees. For example, the ability to search for a specific item and filters that actually work.
  • jesadjesad Member UncommonPosts: 882

    Haha! This is too funny.  A guy who obviously overpriced his stuff complaining about having to pay extra to actually be reasonable.  The first things I ever saw go up on the stores were out of this world expensive!  So expensive, in fact, that there was barely enough people who even had the kind of gold being asked for by the majority of stuff.

    And lets not forget, these were your so called GUILDMATES doing this.  It wasn't just the trade guilds, where were the real halfbaked plans IMO. (But that is a whole different topic)

    Common sense would have dictated then that everyone try to price their stuff within at least what the market was capable of instead of what they thought....unwisely it could bear but nooooooooo.  LOL Greed rules and so a lot of people ended up having to take their stuff down and reprice it, taking that extra listing fee for good measure.

    I voted no and good enough for you.  It's bad enough that you can't even find a guild that isn't exposing your goods to the enemy faction (cause that's how you win a war, by letting the enemy buy all of your best weapons) but then to really try to stick it to your own faction as though there aren't a ton of people out there willing to buy your stuff at a reasonable price, you deserve what you get. 

    Stupid needs a price attached to it and that price in ESO is an additional tax on what stupid does called a re-listing fee.

    ESO didn't fail on guild stores, a lot of guild merchants are just failing at ESO.

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  • NellusNellus Member UncommonPosts: 247
    I'd like them to fix the guild stores a bit (and guild bank functions, for that matter) but there are a lot of other things that I would prefer to see addressed prior. I don't plan to routinely buy things from other players, it isn't my style. I'd rather pay the iron price than the gold one. I'm no Theon.

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  • ProblemProblem Member UncommonPosts: 77
    Originally posted by Thane

    pfffff... next cry post. world is a better place now... totaly.

     

    voted #4: couldn't care less.

     i was about to say the same :) Thanks

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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
    Originally posted by Problem
    Originally posted by Thane

    pfffff... next cry post. world is a better place now... totaly.

     

    voted #4: couldn't care less.

     i was about to say the same :) Thanks

    Game is unfortunately so full of issues, it's hard not to see all those posts coming. The sad part is that those issues are real and not made up or grossly exaggerated, unfortunately.

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