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The fact that WoW the most popular and successful MMO on the list is not there should tell you something. I am glad you think it doesn't represent anything though. The whole discussion is just pointless.
And no where did I state that ESO is as popular as WoW. But generally the more popular you are the more haters you will have. It is just the way things work.
Where is that "fact" recorded? And what evidence was researched in support of that fact? Because when you say something is a "fact," I tend to ask for evidence that it has been recorded as such.
So then, since this game is not very popular, it should not have many haters? Do you see how that paints it in an even more negative light? You would be admitting that the ratio of people that don't like this game is very high for a game that is not that popular.
So, you've played, what? Two, maybe three, MMOs before?
ESO is definitely not the greatest MMO or Elder Scrolls game, however it is a good game and is fun. If you think it's the worst MMO you've ever played, then you've either played none before to very little as I can think of many others that are in worse states than ESO currently is.
No
If you think that the endless articles about anything in "public" life "matter" just because they are posted...then my mind tires for you. Data/numbers mean what you want.
What evidence do you have to support that this game is not popular? Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it so.
Ah there you go, but since you gave a lot of credence to MMORPG numbers. ESO is completely dominating in terms of popularity on MMORPG. I mean it is literally destroying all other games at the moment.
Why was it number one in the first place? That's what I don't understand. Maybe there should of been a zero after the one and they forgot to put it in, that's the only thing I can think of.
No, no, no. You didn't read his post. It's clearly NOT popular! Even though there are only three other games ahead of it on the prestigious MMORPG.com popularity index, and every other game except those three BELOW it in popularity, it still can't be considered "popular" since apparently, the cutoff point for uber-popular is Top 3.
Top 3 = uber popular
4 or below = dogshit
From what BeansnBread is trying to say, this is how ratings work, I guess.
Well a few things.
1.) That ranking board is BS, and his manipulated actively by certain games. I'm talking about your Guildwars 2/Secret world. Its cute seeing you guys duke it out, but its pretty evident, particularly GW2 who seems to love to be the most zealous in this effort.
2.) In a way, despite what I said above there is SOME reflection in games and what people feel, there is a likely hood ESO is wearing out its welcome for some who might of bought it and are now not into it any longer, and it might not be generating as many new people to throw in higher score. Not a sign that its "Dying" but It could explain why its not keeping up with the cheesing that other games do to stay up top.
If TESO is "dominating in terms of popularity" can you provide the link? Maybe something from Zenimax that says your claim?
I'm just wondering where you get info from?
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
If you go to the website of this game look at the very top.
Right there. . .
. . .in big print. . .
. . .The name of the game is. . .
THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE!
If you go to a retail store. . .
. . .and browse the PC game selection. . .
. . .You will find a box named. . .
THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE!
So yeah
it is TESO, not ESO. . .
But it's not dominating other games that have come out in the past and held number 1 for a much longer time. GW2, FFXIV:ARR and TSW all had roughly comparable release numbers and GW2 likely had much higher sales numbers. Even if the game sold as many as SWTOR in the first month (I believe it was 2.4 million), it would still be comparable to those other titles. They held onto number 1 for much longer.
That's why your argument falls not only flat, but it actually helps to make the game look worse when considering the rating. If super popular games like WoW and LoL have the highest ratio of trolls because of their popularity, then why does this game have such a high ratio of trolls? It certainly doesn't have the popularity of those other games. It has approximately the same popularity of other games that stayed far more positive for far longer at release.
Actually, I'd say that at release, it's similarly popular to the other games that are ahead of it.
You completely changed the argument when yours felt completely flat. You said it was not popular at all, then I provided the MMORPG popularity numbers. When I did that you went off on a random tangent again which really didn't make any sense because we were talking about something specific.
If you gave so much importance to ratings based on 180 players. Why are you ignoring the "popularity" aspect which you think doesn't exist when it comes with ESO? Let us not go on tangents, let us stick to the subject at hand.
That is actually completely false.
GW2, TSW, FFXIV all lasted for months on top spot before sliding down.
ESO slipped to number 5 in 2 weeks?
Yes it is no masterpeice but it isn't that bad.
Hell even Rift stayed on top for few months after release.
I wonder how games that aren't even in the Top 5 will do? It must suck being WoW at this point. : (
Edit: WoW is not even in the Top 50, that's a shame. : (
Seriously?
This is an argument here in this thread...whether it's TESO or ESO?
Or what some jackass site rates the game based off of over or under hyped votes?
How awesome has today become?
You're completely missing the point. But I give you credit for your dogged attempt to prove whatever point you're trying to make.
Look. let's simplify it: By your logic, WoW isn't even a blip on the radar, since it hasn't held the #1 spot for any capacity for any amount of time on this site. In fact, it's not even on the current list. Yet, oddly enough, a shit ton of people play it.
So any point you are trying to make about popularity or non-popularity as it relates to this particular rating system is pointless. In fact, it makes you look like you have a serious axe to grind with TESO, and a major agenda.
You need to explain to everyone, this Popularity Aspect. In TESO terms, not ES terms. Because TESO doesn't seem very lively. I play it too. and People that vote don't lie, after all!
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
It seems extremely lively. There are people everywhere. So I've got to question what you are looking at when you log in. Maybe it's a faction issue.
And did you really say that people that vote don't lie? Or were you being sarcastic?
The point is that even a generic MMO like Rift managed to be popular among the users here and ESO couldn't even last 2 weeks?
Like i said it isn't that bad. It is atleast in my opinion much better game than Rift.
I will explain it to you. You used MMORPG.com ratings to judge ESO. I used MMORG.com popularity to judge ESO's popularity. That seems fair right? If you can use MMORPG.com, why can't I? In terms of MMORPG.com popularity and "hits", ESO is completely dominating.
A game like ArcheAge that just announced Alpha today didn't even get any hits, almost none. I know they rather be in ESO's place at this point.
You are just agreeing with me, lol. I'm saying the game is nowhere near as popular as WoW or LoL and is similarly popular to GW2, FFXIV:ARR and TSW is honestly probably sold half the copies in the first month. I even said they probably sold 2 million copies which is a high number. It's the other guy that is equating popularity with rating trolls. By doing that, he is arguing less people by ratio are actually are happy with this game than those other games a week after release.
I repeat, he was the one making that argument.