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Eso Global top seller 5 april

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  • MsPtibiscuitMsPtibiscuit Member Posts: 164
    We never what is included in those numbers. IIRC it includes re-sellers sales, but not the official (through the online shop) sales.
  • AccunAccun Member Posts: 5
    If you click on it you'll see their sources - Retail, Direct download and Steam. For comparison SWTOR sold 1.4 mil units first week.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by Accun
    If you click on it you'll see their sources - Retail, Direct download and Steam. For comparison SWTOR sold 1.4 mil units first week.

    Huh, that is pretty crazy. I had to look it up to be sure because it sounded really high for Vgchartz.

     

    SWTOR

    http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40902/Global/

    1.4 mil

     

    ESO

    http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41735/Global/

    253k

     

    And for the hell of it, GW2

    http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41154/Global/

    849k

  • CurragraigueCurragraigue Member UncommonPosts: 84

    It actually says 'release history' not that the sales are from those sources, in fact no sources are provided for the figures at all on the website. So it is unclear where they have been taken from but they seem to be comparable with the physical retail pre-order figures so it is possible that they are just brick and mortar sales and not downloads.

    Since Beth and Steam have not released sales data it is unlikely that those figures include download sales.

  • JHenryJHenry Member Posts: 188
    Originally posted by Curragraigue

    Steam

    There is no steam release yet...

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by BeansnBread
    Originally posted by Accun
    If you click on it you'll see their sources - Retail, Direct download and Steam. For comparison SWTOR sold 1.4 mil units first week.

    Huh, that is pretty crazy. I had to look it up to be sure because it sounded really high for Vgchartz.

     

    SWTOR

    http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40902/Global/

    1.4 mil

     

    ESO

    http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41735/Global/

    253k

     

    And for the hell of it, GW2

    http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41154/Global/

    849k

    It really wouldn't surprise me if that last problematic beta had a lot to do with this.

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  • amber-ramber-r Member Posts: 323

    Few things to keep in mind, no mmo ever gets swtor numbers that game had crazy sales and also that vgcharts skews it's own data (for instance when they gavce week 1 FFXIV sales they stacked those onto FFXIV v1 sales from 2010).

     

    Also the date on the vgcharts site is the 5th and as such is not one week sales as listed, eso came out on the 4th so that is 1 day sales.  I'm really interested how many sold on week 2 since that will be the real telling point.

     

    Personally however, I don't think the game has sold that well all the same.  Not because it's good or bad but simply because it's overpriced, the CE bonuses didn't help.  It's just an incredibly overpriced game when you consider it has a sub.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by amber-r

    Few things to keep in mind, no mmo ever gets swtor numbers that game had crazy sales and also that vgcharts skews it's own data (for instance when they gavce week 1 FFXIV sales they stacked those onto FFXIV v1 sales from 2010).

     

    Also the date on the vgcharts site is the 5th and as such is not one week sales as listed, eso came out on the 4th so that is 1 day sales.  I'm really interested how many sold on week 2 since that will be the real telling point.

    Yeah, me too. We'll be able to see those fairly soon I would think.

  • CurragraigueCurragraigue Member UncommonPosts: 84
    Originally posted by JHenry
    Originally posted by Curragraigue

    Steam

    There is no steam release yet...

    Thanks, planning on playing on PS4 so I didn't check to see if Steam had released just mentioned Steam because they are listed in the 'release history' on the linked website. I have been looking for sales figures myself for the last week or so and have been surprised we have not had this information released.

    I guess the fact that Steam have not yet released just goes to support the point I was making that the figures are unlikely to include downloads.

  • AccunAccun Member Posts: 5
    Originally posted by Curragraigue

    It actually says 'release history' not that the sales are from those sources, in fact no sources are provided for the figures at all on the website. So it is unclear where they have been taken from but they seem to be comparable with the physical retail pre-order figures so it is possible that they are just brick and mortar sales and not downloads.

    Since Beth and Steam have not released sales data it is unlikely that those figures include download sales.

    You could very well be right on his. I have no insight into the inner workings of vgchartz. Best will be to wait for a word from the horses mouth, ZOS in this case. However ZOS/Bethesda silence regarding sales numbers tell a little. No "one million" first week have ever been bypassed by the PR department of the publisher.

  • CurragraigueCurragraigue Member UncommonPosts: 84
    Originally posted by Accun
    Originally posted by Curragraigue

    It actually says 'release history' not that the sales are from those sources, in fact no sources are provided for the figures at all on the website. So it is unclear where they have been taken from but they seem to be comparable with the physical retail pre-order figures so it is possible that they are just brick and mortar sales and not downloads.

    Since Beth and Steam have not released sales data it is unlikely that those figures include download sales.

    You could very well be right on his. I have no insight into the inner workings of vgchartz. Best will be to wait for a word from the horses mouth, ZOS in this case. However ZOS/Bethesda silence regarding sales numbers tell a little. No "one million" first week have ever been bypassed by the PR department of the publisher.

    Completely agree very strange not to have an announcement yet on first week sales. Seems to suggest they have not reached a target that they set for sales and they are not ready to announce yet because of that. I hope I'm wrong and we get an official announcement soon.

  • KnotwoodKnotwood Member CommonPosts: 1,103

    Considering ESO had a massive beta, and the client was able to be used to play the early access and launch, the retail numbers doesn't surprise me, in fact that's pretty excellent considering most of the purchases would have been on the eso site itself.  

     

    Beta + the 5 day early access from the Main website has a lot to do with why the retail would be much lower.

  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by Knotwood

    Considering ESO had a massive beta, and the client was able to be used to play the early access and launch, the retail numbers doesn't surprise me, in fact that's pretty excellent considering most of the purchases would have been on the eso site itself.  

     

    Beta + the 5 day early access from the Main website has a lot to do with why the retail would be much lower.

    Been the case in the past with other games too... they still sold better in retail and most gamers prefer a physical copy at launch because it prevents possible download issues.

    About as valid an argument as this statement: 10 mil subs by the end of the year!!!!1!

     

    If they had sold anywhere near as much as WoW vanilla at launch did they would've been shouting it from the rooftops and plastering it anywhere they could with ads to keep the ball rolling... Hell they would've been doing it if they were matching or beating GW2's numbers so you have one of two choices really: Either it sold much less than either or it sold so much that they are afraid announcing it would get more people to buy it and melt their servers with the zerg of players (did not stop Blizzard and any number of other publishers btw and ZOS has already proven it does not really give two tosses about the player's gaming experience).

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  • ArakaziArakazi Member UncommonPosts: 911
    I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't sell well after the beta. I just didn't like the game it just seemed to lack soul - kinda reminded me of Rift really, good basic game but missing that special something. Plus its way overpriced for a sub based game. Will still sell millions though.
  • CrusadesCrusades Member Posts: 480
    Originally posted by BeansnBread
    Originally posted by Accun
    If you click on it you'll see their sources - Retail, Direct download and Steam. For comparison SWTOR sold 1.4 mil units first week.

    Huh, that is pretty crazy. I had to look it up to be sure because it sounded really high for Vgchartz.

     

    SWTOR

    http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40902/Global/

    1.4 mil

     

    ESO

    http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41735/Global/

    253k

     

    And for the hell of it, GW2

    http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41154/Global/

    849k

    ESO had 160k pre orders on pc - is that data included in the 253k? I don't think pre order info is there for any of the games listed.

    So that would bring ESO up to a wopping 410K - i didn't add in pre order info for swtor or GW2 but those numbers would be much higher too, especially since those games did not get rejected nearly as bad as ESO has.

    ESO also currently has 70k pre orders on xb1 and 60k on ps4

    - those console numbers are telling too. xb1 kids won't do the research and dive right in, and even though less people own an xb1 than ps4 more people are buying ESO. PS4 tends to lend itself to the more educated older console player and xb1 vice versus. 

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254

    It's total sales. Preorders become sales.

     

    Edit: Just to be clear, VGChartz doesn't have any info on digital sales form Bethesda/Zenimax just like they didn't have that information for SWTOR or GW2. So it's not a precise number about total sales but can only loosely be used to make a comparison.

  • CirandraCirandra Member UncommonPosts: 46
    Originally posted by BeansnBread
    It's total sales. Preorders become sales.

    so  Diablo 3 got only 70.000 total sales?

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Originally posted by Fenia
    Originally posted by BeansnBread
    It's total sales. Preorders become sales.

    so  Diablo 3 got only 70.000 total sales?

    VGChartz actually says 5.6 million. But like I edited in my last post, it doesn't include the digital ones.

     

    http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=diablo+III&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,386
    Its weekly Fenia so perhaps that is the weekly figure for Diablo which released earlier.
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  • MsPtibiscuitMsPtibiscuit Member Posts: 164
    I think this charts includes every sales except the sales from the official shop. Since most of the sales comes from retailers, I think you can easily say that there have been 300k-350k sales
  • CirandraCirandra Member UncommonPosts: 46
    Originally posted by BeansnBread
    Originally posted by Fenia
    Originally posted by BeansnBread
    It's total sales. Preorders become sales.

    so  Diablo 3 got only 70.000 total sales?

    VGChartz actually says 5.6 million. But like I edited in my last post, it doesn't include the digital ones.

     

    http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=diablo+III&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

    I'm saying for the Reaper of Souls..but nvm i saw your edit later..

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,386

    In my opinion the single player market was put off by the sub to be honest the price of the game did not help. They just priced themselves and the Imperial hoohah  in the mix ,took off any possibility of selling really well.

     

    Also digital versions of games are how I get most of my games so the argument that most had the beta and therefore most sales were digital is true for many other games including SWTOR . I do not expect ESO  to do as well as  SWTOR but still this seems inordinately low. However Zenimax not making any announcements is very telling.

     

    I would have bought the game myself if not for the price and the Imperial thing and I buy almost every single MMO that comes out and I did not buy ESO.

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  • DEAD.lineDEAD.line Member Posts: 424
    Originally posted by Crusades
     

    ESO had 160k pre orders on pc - is that data included in the 253k? I don't think pre order info is there for any of the games listed.

    So that would bring ESO up to a wopping 410K - i didn't add in pre order info for swtor or GW2 but those numbers would be much higher too, especially since those games did not get rejected nearly as bad as ESO has.

    ESO also currently has 70k pre orders on xb1 and 60k on ps4

    - those console numbers are telling too. xb1 kids won't do the research and dive right in, and even though less people own an xb1 than ps4 more people are buying ESO. PS4 tends to lend itself to the more educated older console player and xb1 vice versus. 

    250k come rom 160k on pc, and about 50k on each console. 

    But VZChartz are useless IMO. For reference, TSW had 50k on pc the last week before launch. And does this mean we can count xfire numbers now too?

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,386
    TSW did actually do that badly to be honest. I recall feeling awful for TSW as I had bought the game and loved it then.
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  • amber-ramber-r Member Posts: 323

    Mentioning again that these numbers are 1 day sales, next week we will have a better idea.

     

    However as I and others have said they made a big mistake with the CE and high price of this game, anyone that liked the game more or less had to buy the CE due to the locked race and that was vastly overpriced considering it only gave 30 days playtime.

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